THIS IS A REPOST FROM MORE GMHIKARU - IT WAS POSTED THERE IN ERROR. This is the beginning of the stream from September 21, 2022, Hikaru reacted to a video called How I Became a Cheater found here: • How I became a cheater
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This video felt like a class in high school when the teacher put an educational video and then at the end the teacher asks what we learned 😂
Made me laugh 😂
Conclusion: Hans could be cheatin that way
We learned that this video has nothing to do with hans. It was seven years ago. Its a lot easier now, a real serious issue. Nothing to do with hans.
Hans took school seriously
You mean when the teacher turns a funny video into a lesson?
I love how Hikaru can just recreate the game. This is staggering to mere mortals!
In fairness, whilst super surprising to a lot of people, he knows and can recognise the opening pretty easily. Therefore the first bunch of moves have a name to someone like Hikaru. After that, I would imagine that 10-20 moves are trivial to him in terms of remembering them. Amazing yes, still something he’s been working on for a bunch of years of his life.
insane I was thinking the same.
Make chess your job, you'll be recreating games in no time too :)
Blew my fucking mind!
I mean, yeah. I couldn't do it, that's for sure. But I can see how it's possible. When I watch Hikaru play on stream or youtube, however, he does things which seem way more impossible - at least for me. How can he calculate so many moves in advance over several boards while blindfolded for example. Just boggles my mind. Another thing is, he plays very good players - arround 2000 elo (which is way beyond my punching weight), and just beats them like nothing. When I would play them, they would seem impossible obstacle. But when Hikaru plays them, they just blunder pieces left and right. It's not chess - it's some sort of black magic. Not even mentioning there are players like Carlsen who are even beyond that. These GM's are insane.
Dubov is a great actor because he’s memorized all the top lines.
Underappreciated comment.
This is the best comment I've read in a month or so.
I see what you did there.
As the great bill hicks put it: - "don't get on your - we hate puns - high horse with me."
It's not Hans's play specifically that makes me think he cheated, it's the fact that pros like Magnus, Hikaru, Ding, Fabi, etc ... they can all recite insane lines from memory. You ask them to evaluate a game and they will break it down like a computer in front of you. But in an interview Hans couldn't explain anything. He was fumbling through everything, misexplaining moves, contradicting himself and his prep. He's playing like he's at the top level but can't explain anything like all the top players can? That's sus.
I get what you’re saying but it’s also possible he’s just an awkward teenager that isn’t good at public speaking. He’s not even 20 years old and being put on blast lol. You ever had your mind just go blank while under pressure?
@@folieadeux147 In a midterm presentation last year for my senior project in college I stuttered and took 10 seconds to figure out how to say the word "demonstrate". You can't judge a persons ability through only a handful of their public speaking moments.
@@CadeDubs ok he's also an admitted cheater and in evaluation he's playing better than any human has before. Better than Bobby at his peak, better than peak Magnus, better than peak Kasparov. So he's either still cheating like he admits he did in the past ... or he's the greatest chess player in human history.
not to mention all the other juniors, and hans doesnt look socially awkward at all in interviews, as the body language people say, he comes across as a liar. not even a very good one. all those emotional distractions and exaggerations; so few concrete details. lance armstrong was a better liar.
@@CadeDubs But it's important to note that even IMs can play blindfolded. The people saying Hans is cheating don't mean he's a shit player. They mean he's like a 2600 using occasional engine help at key moments in certain tournaments to play as a 2700+.
shout out to the one chatter who pretended to know Russian when the sentence hadn't even finished
Might’ve seen the original video beforehand?
Shut up scammer
yes dude and hikaru obviously falls for it
I agree 100%. There are at least two people suspected of cheating at each tournament I attend lately. Yet because it is someone providing a tip having witnessed phone usage in the bathroom or game discussion in the hallway, little to nothing is actually done. Secondly, I frankly have noticed that most chess tournament TDs (even at huge events like the Las Vegas Open) have no backbone whatsoever. They made an announcement claiming if you are caught with your phone, you will first get a harsh warning... How is that announcement itself not the first warning, meaning if you are caught with a phone you are subsequently disqualified!??
Seems like Chess has a problem with admitting there's a problem. Like baseball and steroids. Chess orgs seem to think the game is too good to have cheaters. It's arrogance. Every game has cheating fucks. Chess is no different.
Hi Andrew! Seth from China 21 here. Didn’t realize you are an active part of the chess community but cool to see. Small world. I’m sorry to hear about your negative tournament experiences. Hope you’ve been well otherwise. A lot has changed in the past five years!
I just played a large Open tournament where phones were 'strictly' prohibited, but the organizers were telling you if you wanted to look up standings, pairings, etc. you should look at this certain website - so most people were clearly on their phones right before a round looking at the website, so they obviously had their phones on them. No-one acknowledged that this was a HUGE contradiction in policy/rules.
I recently went to a chess tournament and went out for a smoke mid match (it had been like 2 hours I needed a break) and watched memes on my phone while smoking. I realized when I got home when I could totally have used my phone to analyse the position as I could pretty much remember the position from memory. I wasn’t even hiding, I was right in the front door.
I was showing my chess coach my game. And then this notification showed up, „How to cheat in chess?“ 😭😭
bruhh 💀💀💀
Sus😳
😂
I hope the session was productive after that...😂
@@grahampawar no
I have been told by my lawyers that this is unrelated to Niemann
I forget that in chess at a grandmasters level it takes a few computer moves to get an advantage . So basically you don't even have to cheat for the whole game just the key moment... And if you are a grandmaster you can get yourself to end game with that advantage...
Yeah. Cheating is especially more difficult catch redhandedly when the people cheating are already decently high level players unless you're blatantly doing it to do it but that's rare. People used to cheating get better and better at cheating after they get caught. But because their adversaries are also high level, those people can tell when a game doesn't look "proper". Even in other sports and games, it's usually the already high level players that are cheating more frequently. Add monetary incentive to that.
2 or 3 moves in crucial positions is probably enough for a GM to beat another
And think about Hikaru now. The more professional you are, the easier it is for you to cheat. He can use engine on streams to make it more entertaining. I've seen him get 99,5 score and it's looking weird.
those players don't even need the exact move. just a signal when to look for it
@@d_plays I was literally about to say this. When your're GM good, you don't need to know what exact moves you need to make, just that there is a play to be made.
7 years ago. Now you can print Ear Wigs with flesh tone to easily disguise on the visible part of ear canals especially if you have longer hair. Also difficult to be detected by metal detector, the 3D printed pewpews actually scary because of it.
3D Printed firearms still have metal parts in them. They would still get picked up by metal detectors.
@@KillingfalkONroblox only if you need the firearm to work for more than one shot..
@@KillingfalkONroblox Feb. 2022 The US Inspector General of The DOJ released a statement regarding certain 3D printed guns and their capability to be undetected by metaldetectors. But I guess you don't keep up.
@@KillingfalkONroblox There's a law that states because of it's undetectability that 3D Printed Pewpew need to have "some metal parts" like the firing pin in order to be legal. If someone plans to make one for nefarious means they won't follow that law.
@@KillingfalkONroblox then simple google search shows you that conventional metal detectors used for building, and personally even at court, do not get tipped off by Airpods. It's easy to sneak in a home made fleshtoned ear wig to these chess events.
“How do I know this? Cause I was looking at the board and they showed the whole game.” But we were also looking at the board and we got none of that…
Thanks for the tutorial! Very helpful😊
Host: "Hans what did you have for breakfast this morning?" Hans: (Discretely moving right arm and twirling fingers rapidly) "Well that would have really depended on the brand of mattress of which I had been at rest on the previous night" (Now waving both arms and frantically wiggling his fingers above his head) 🤣
Damn, the video aged like a fine wine
It's 2hours old
@@ashish4451 bro you serious?
@@ashish4451 💀
@@ashish4451 hah
@@ashish4451 no it's 17 hours can't you read?
If your opponent throws out a non natural move that leads to mate in 23, when there's a very obvious move that's +27... yeah....
This was 7 years ago, and another point is that they probably didnt spend the money it would cost, or even had the connections, to get top of the line stuff. Imagine now, with the funds, knowledge and the desire to cheat, I personally think it would be pretty simple to get by some metal detectors..
Vlad is a friend of blitzstream, he said he rented the material back then for the equivalent of 50€ for the day. So yeah, this is pretty much the cheapest stuff you could get and the results are already pretty alarming.
Hikaru keeps saying the video is a joke, but if I remember well when Vlad Tkatchiev talked about this video on blitzstream's channel the intent was to show how easy it was to cheat at the game in order to raise awareness and "pressure" organizers to put in more serious anti-cheat measures. The intent was not to make a joke video.
These two things are not opposite. The video could be a joke AND be intended to raise awareness
The intent is to show how "laughably" easy it is to cheat. Win-Win.
Why did you go from imhappy._. to Just some guy who is not depressed? @@imhappy._.
The game was sped up and hikaru somehow knew all the moves and put it into the analysis. If only.
In fact, Hikaru nails it with this video, even though 7 years old. AN tiny earpiece would NOT be detectable by a standard wand sweep. Spy quality earpieces would be 99% plastic undetectable to a metal detector. The only metal "part" would be the antenna, which would be a short wire less than the thickness of a human hair. The standard metal detector wand sweep would not have the required sensitivity to pick this up, the less than razor thin wire. This could also be super glued invisibly to a scalp on a person with thick hair. High stakes tnmnt Chess is doomed. 😫
Why do people in videos about chess keep contracting random words in their voluminous comments?
Looking beyond Chess, a pair of smart glasses and an earpiece could get you top marks on all important exams like the SAT, the Bar exam for attorneys , etc. There needs to be countermeasures.
Important and sat together....... (literally one of the easiest exams, more like a scam for money) so i don't know if you are joking or not
Were you unaware that high SATs earn scholarships and entries into prestigious colleges? They do.
@@ryanhanson3365 not singlehandedly + the key point was that it's extremely easy, likely to the point that cheating would take more time than it's worth it's also possible that they were referring to inherent importance, which the SAT is almost entirely devoid of despite the more significant judgements based on it
@@falsepanda2981 many, many people do poorly on the SATs and would benefit a lot from cheating.
My very smart friend was kind of an underachiever in HS but killed the SATs, earned a scholarship, and was able to go to just about any college he wanted.
we should just have games be taken place at USA airport customs 😂
Truth! Absolutely no shenanigans would escape the TSA and their wily eyes!
They wouldn’t even be able to cheat using the tried and true method of 4 ounces of liquid!
@7:17 You can see the device in his right ear drum. It looks like an regular in the canal hearing aid
That video actually has very good camerawork besides good acting by the GMs hahaha
Just look at ceiling with stockfish computer like hikaru /s
Thank you Hikaru I’ve been waiting to learn this
"I've got balls of steel." So their methods haven't changed after all...
LOL at the subtitles: 0:33 "This is live soft ketchup"
I like the automatic subtitle generator: "Vladi soft Ketchup". Brillant 🤣
I enjoy the videos where Hikaru breaks things down for beginners
Metal detectors probably aren't going to catch a cochlear implant. Delaying the broadcast sounds like the only reliable method.
Hikaru's been fire as React Andy since the drama began
"He's very good, I bet him as black before I was even a GM, but yes he's very good"
Magnus on his deathbed reveals he had an earpiece the whole time and Hikaru has been feeding him moves.
The music wasn't too loud as in decibel, it's loud as in noisy and high frequency, sharp spiked sawtooth shape waves.
yeah I get your point and it's good that you covered it because people need to know and take it more seriously like you said.
Magnus Carlsen makes an acquisition... Hikaru: I will become your lawyer 😂
Best way are "Jammers" to avoid radio signal frequenzes by handy or others in the players zone.
It would be incredibly easy to catch cheaters with earpieces. You can pick up the radio frequencies with a device and listen in.
"Dis guy killed about a hundred Chechyns. He was an interior decorator!" "Really? His apartment looked like crap."
"technology has improved *infinitely*" ok lol
Hans watching this video: "Pfft! amateurs..."
Le Vlad toujours dans les bons coups !
But we don't have earpieces now. We have beads 🤔😂
Hikaru thinks 7 years ago, thechnology was still prehistoric.
It was
Vlad Tkachiev appeared on a good number of video of blitzstream to analyze games for example.
For anyone who doesn't know. Hikaru's watermark is his name in Japanese. 光 . It's on top of a little base to make it look like a chess piece.
Right out of James Bond, opening scene of Goldfinger. LOL
"this is soft ketchup" - Hikaru, as translated by the auto subs
Either Magnus is protesting against Hans because of the known cheating online, or Hans cheated otb.
I feel like a player like Magnus can tell the difference between when he's playing a human and playing a bot. He could probably even guess with fair accuracy which engine he's playing.
@@NOLASkaGuitarist and which version of each engine
@@NOLASkaGuitarist he cant guess which engine he is playing, engines play mostly the same, with the execption for AI engines that play like humans, engines have very computer moves to them, they make moves that dont make sense, they work towards getting the most out of a position, if one inaccuracy on magnus, the engine will immeidatly be in the position to win, if you play against engines enough, you will understand that they move like engines, humans make more logical moves, like sacrifice often, make moves that can shift the whole narrative of the game, while engines just play very quietly, very small moves that give them the advantage to their posistion, if the human makes one error, ive noticed that they will play extremely humanlike afterwards, but sometimes humans can play like engines, however, there has been statistical analysis of Hans games over the past years and present, and it shows that he did indeed likely used engines to beat opponents in tourmenamnts. but u cant tell which engine a person is using or which version they are using just by playing them, you can get a feeling your opponent is cheating, but not which engine lol
The question is.. how?
The best way to prevent cheating in chess would be if they put thick layer of tin foil around the room. This blocks all kinds of signals going in and out.
"How to cheat in chess" I got a mental image of Randy Marsh in that ep where he jumps on top of Paris hilton.
Real question is why the other guy was hiding under the table 🤣.
Why use anal beads when you can get the indications from getting head?
Because it isn't the table, but a windowsill in the entryway. And usually there isn't any chair.
bone conduction earbuds that's connected to the skull, hidden in hair puffy shaggy hair, instead of the ear where everyone looks at.
Scorsese-like long final shot down the stairs. Nice .
I wonder how many tournaments have organized cheating with help from the director, inviting people to come pay fees, and then keeping the prize money for themselves. Sandbagging is another issue.
Why do you think magnus is so much better than everyone and he wins all the tourneys? It's similar to every other pro sport where all the top guys take steroids.
Weightlifting had this thing happen in the olympics. Athletes had predestined placings based on payoffs to the committee. If the athletes didn't do as they were told and miss attempts they were immediately tested and popped for PED's. It was insane news. Till this day, they are facing issues with the olympic committee on reorganizing and the extreme amounts of PED positive tests to the point of being removed as a sport entirely. I'm sure crazy corruption like this happens in all sports.
@@okaydetar821 That's an odd comparison. PED's enhance physical capabilities. I'm sure to some extent, chess players take beta blockers or uppers, but mind games like chess aren't as easily manipulatable with just drug enhancements. Of course, you can make the argument for being the number 1 in anything comes with speculation of somehow cheating, since its very likely that the top ends of most sports are riddled with cheaters. It's the argument that either puts that person in the .0001% of human genetics or the lance armstrong of they've just been getting away with cheating the entire time too.
@@Rizzerio1 My claim was that most top chess players cheat, I wasn't actually saying they were using steroids, they mostly bribe the opponent to lose with pre-planned games that they set up in advance, or they use an earpiece etc.. there are a lot of ways to cheat.
@@okaydetar821 I sort of acknowledged that in the later part of my reply.
5:25 . So what's constitutes the difference? Strong vs very strong vs very very strong? Is there also super strong? Does that make Fabiano very very very strong and then Magnus super dangerously strong?
If I were to help a GM win a game I would just use an infrared laser to signal him that his opponent made a mistake. That should be enough. Imagine feeling the eval bar on your hand.
How to cheat in chess: Checkmate before climax
I'm glad he pulled it out of his ear.
what you need is a plastic piece that taps on your leg, and to learn some morse-type notation for chess algebraic notation.
"The music's still too loud?" "Okay, I'll turn it down some more." "Music's still too loud?" No help. It wasn't music. It was just noise.
On a side note, modern Bluetooth headphones do not trigger metal detectors, not sure how inconspicuous they can get, however bone induction is a thing too, wouldn't be hard to surgically install one of those.
what is your favourite cocktail- Vodka with lime or gin with ginger or Irish whiskey with matte?
Never thought it was possible to cheat near table until Carlsen case
Lmfao but there are GM who have been banned for cheating OTB.
This risks to be like an ☄️ asteroid hitting planet chess
Metal detectors don't help that much. What you need is electronics detection.
Would it surprise your to learn that you can make electronics without metal? It's not recommended but certainly possible and would avoid any metal scanners. Keeping that in mind you don't need a very efficient communication device, maybe for a few moves in critical moments would suffice. A decent try would be to have frequency jammers to block Bluetooth and WiFi signals in the playing hall, if you can accomplish that, and assuming there are no insider deals (like a security detail adding the cheater) then it's only physical devices (like a phone chess computer) on the players you have to account for which is easier to manage than electronic signals like voice or morsecode communication.
Hi Mr Hikaru, can you predict stock markets like you predict chess moves?
Rxf3 is the move I had in mind. It seems very logical since you remove two of the King's defenders (the knight and basically also the g pawn) and you still have three pieces to attack so you should be able to overwhelm White's position.
🤓
very concrete calculation :D
The beads are the ultimate way to cheat
OMG Hikaru dude is watching him playing and player by hand tell him to give an advice!!!
Next tournaments, just put a finger inside every players' ears
The way the things are going, they will start to put at player'ass
Dubov is the kid that keeps playing with his hair
Do be honest, we should just signal hammer in all the tournaments. Players need is to complete in a quiet place not only in the physical sense but also signal sense
Small bone conduction pads behind the ear could work if you had ridiculous hair. Or bone conduction on the teeth.
I NEED THIS
the more gmhikaru editor seems like the biggest troll so obviously he messed up
My man's name in the subtitles @ 0:35 is Live Soft Ketchup
11:44 Yes, he is actually going to say "to gloat" few seconds later. You paused too early .
Yes, it is very close to gloat. He said «поглумись».
It's incredible how bad I am at chess but I enjoy your vids
Live soft ketchup vs Daniel Dubov... Closed captions are interesting.
Tinytx sells microphone jamming equipment. Which can impede use of such devices. I use several for meetings and such and it can prevent the use of this “tactic”
Vlad is from the Bakistan
hikaru just destroying the computer from 7 years ago
Hikaru repeats almost every sentence cu he is used to thinking of something and then doing the same thing playing chess
in the ear is obvious now, but in the buth is secret
Wait, just for the record: how many years passed since the making of the video?
0:29 Subtitles on : "we just set some context here uh because we're watching this video, this is I believe this is LIVE SOFT KETCHUP I don't know I mean I pronounce the Russian names terribly..."
Magnetic ear pieces are smaller than grain of rice and deep in ear.
Implanted ear piece for thermal detection evasion; Sub-dermal vibrating implant for move relay via morse code; Sub-lingual vibrating implant; Anal beads; Hemi-Sync astral projecting Dlugyfish; The list goes on.
Thanks, this helped me a lot in daily life!!
No you probably need an audiological ear doctor to examine everyone’s ears at the tournament. And unfortunately, I’m not even joking
Or some sort of x-ray device
1:48 did you notice they didn't turn the board around? black should not be on the 1 row, right?
These videos are getting more entertaining day by day
You don't have to use audio device you can use a contact/touch or Electro stimulation device with very low power long wave radio wave that stay in sleep mode most of the time. Most people in chess world have no idea what technology can do in 2022
RF scanner on the ears likely
they do a metal detector test in the pro matches…there’s no way it can be that easy
A con man sticks it to you when you think you've got them beat. Feeling overly cozy in a situation is when you should be most on edge. If anything, its worth further looking into potential to cheat before it happens. The art of defense is by knowing what the offense will do.
I'm beginning to think that when I play chess online, I'm not going up against someone using their creative brain, I'm mainly going up against some nerd using a chess engine or who has memorized a lot of opening tricks. I think from now on I'll just play people over the board in open forums where they can't have a camera.
got old tooth fillings? you can be world champ. yay!
Wasn't this posted already