How Bionic Wings Are Reinventing Drones

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Mother nature is one of the best engineers, which is why us mere mortals are constantly trying to replicate the amazing things we find in nature. In this video, we will look at how the wings of birds, bugs, and bats are being replicated for drones. Although the complexity of these wings is greater than quadcopters, there are some useful benefits to gain!
Producer: Ryan Hughes
Research: Sian Buckley and Ryan Hughes
Editor: @aniokukade and Ryan Hughes
Music: Ryan Hughes
Key Sources:
www.avinc.com/innovative-solu...
www.festo.com/gb/en/e/about-f...
www.festo.com/gb/en/e/about-f...
Yuchen Xia et al “Design and Optimization of Bionic Wings Based on Leading-edge Angle for Flapping-Wing MAV
#drone #breakthrough #engineering

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    @ZirothTech@ZirothTech6 ай бұрын
    • It looks like most use will be spy drones mimicing birds. For the other uses a drone with wings for gliding long distances should be similar in efficiency and much simpler to build. But this research is great for learning more about efficient gliding for the wing parts so maybe a bird/drone hybrid?

      @AndreVanKammen@AndreVanKammen6 ай бұрын
    • i really want to just pull up to my high school in a working ornithopter. screw your bikes. screw your carpools. I've got a f**king ORNITHOPTER!!!

      @vismaykedilaya1318@vismaykedilaya13186 ай бұрын
    • What tech you are show, is tech that is 10 years old. In the military I saw things in the late 90s and early 00s that only came to public light in 2010s. When the hummingbird drone was shown. There were already insect size drones being used. That can land crawl to go through small holes and take off again. That was with old battery tech. I can't even imagine what they have now.

      @jaytrock3217@jaytrock32176 ай бұрын
    • @@AndreVanKammen The dragonfly would probably be better for spying. Once they can get it down to the size of a real dragonfly, no outdoor conversation will be safe. In a few decades, they'll have it down to the size of a fly, with entirely passive recording and AI guidance so it will impossible to scan for.

      @jmodified@jmodified6 ай бұрын
    • An interesting idea is to use Pterrosaurs as template as they got the in nature most efficient design by using the same muscles for flight and ground movement making them able to be nimble in both modes. That is why they could grow to sizes no other flying animal body type have ever managed.

      @znail4675@znail46756 ай бұрын
  • Finally the CIA declassified the bird technology.

    @UltimatePerfection@UltimatePerfection6 ай бұрын
    • All birds are drones. Birds aren't real.

      @smeeself@smeeself6 ай бұрын
    • Birds aren't real!

      @grantsmith791@grantsmith7916 ай бұрын
    • 😂 I always knew it! Real birds like chicken or penguins don't fly!

      @gargoyle7863@gargoyle78636 ай бұрын
    • ⁠​⁠@@shop970”Birds Aren’t Real” is a fake conspiracy movement meant to mock, satirize and parody people who are dumb enough to actually believe in conspiracy theories. They aren’t actually saying that it’s a conspiracy they believe but, rather mocking those who do.

      @L33tSkE3t@L33tSkE3t6 ай бұрын
    • ⁠pfff! You’re just part of the disinformation campaign against The Truth 😜

      @philcourteney4328@philcourteney43286 ай бұрын
  • Bat's patagium (flight membrane) is more that just stretched skin. It has muscle fibres that change the airfoil curvature and the surface has sensory hairs that detect airflow over the wing surface. Bird wings are less adjustable ,having only adjustable flight feathers , but are more robust

    @PaulG.x@PaulG.x6 ай бұрын
    • Thanks for adding that. I had no idea.

      @mykul8151@mykul81516 ай бұрын
    • I think Boeing has a prototype flexible wing surface.

      @jonasbaine3538@jonasbaine35386 ай бұрын
    • when we get hummingbird drone ??!?!??!??!?!?!?!?

      @ubuu7@ubuu76 ай бұрын
    • Those Are Not Sensory Hairs, They're Vortex Generators. Thank You.

      @thewatcher5271@thewatcher52716 ай бұрын
    • @@thewatcher5271 Wrong pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36790015/

      @PaulG.x@PaulG.x6 ай бұрын
  • What's sad is that, in the realm of military applications, this implies that future anti-drone systems will likely have to contend with drones that are mostly indistinguishable from real birds. This means that whatever future countermeasures that will become necessary when dealing with small drones on the battlefield will likely include taking out birds as well, either on accident or as a matter of necessity

    @fematrailer@fematrailer5 ай бұрын
    • hey hey this is 2023, you're just supposed to be excited for any new technology you can buy or be advertised to through, you're not supposed to notice that the very same technologies are used to enslave, kill, and oppress... that every step of "Progress" has resulted in more suffering, death, disease, and environmental destruction than we started with as hunter gatherers. "Progress" is literally incompatible with diversity, whether ethnic, cultural, or biological.

      @andrewstephens8790@andrewstephens87905 ай бұрын
    • What i noticed as well is how quiet winged drones could be and how great of an impact it could have on operations. Just think of how far away you can hear a regular drone before you notice it and then imagine how close a winged one could get before you do so by sound. Kinda scary.

      @miika6739@miika67395 ай бұрын
    • This is when targeting EMP blasts would be useful, as living organisms aren’t affected by EMPs. It would take out the drone without harming brids

      @JackieOwl94@JackieOwl944 ай бұрын
    • Or just stop agreeing with our "leaders" when they want war? That'll solve at least one problem.

      @HFBN2004@HFBN20044 ай бұрын
    • @@JackieOwl94 It's already done like this. You are not going to waste ammo and at worst show your location, by shooting when there are electronic countermeasures.

      @n.erdbeer@n.erdbeer4 ай бұрын
  • “Awww how cute, a bird” “What’s it holding?” “A grenade?!?!?” “Ohhh fu…..”

    @darrellsaewhat50@darrellsaewhat504 ай бұрын
    • hahahaha, so good

      @rmschindler144@rmschindler144Ай бұрын
    • Drone dropping granades has already went down, it lost most of it's effectiveness.

      @aniksamiurrahman6365@aniksamiurrahman63655 күн бұрын
  • It seems like they are missing a trick here; a bird's/bat's wing not only moves up and down, the outer portion (from the wrist) moves forward on the downstroke, creating more wing speed and lift, and on the upstroke moves backward providing more thrust. OK, it would complicate the joint somewhat, but that's how animals generate such great efficiency vs the man-made models.

    @tonywatson987@tonywatson9876 ай бұрын
    • I am wondering if the man made bones are lighter?

      @peetsnort@peetsnort6 ай бұрын
    • The Festo Bat does move its wings as you describe

      @PaulG.x@PaulG.x6 ай бұрын
    • @@PaulG.x Thanks, it wasn't obvious in the clip.

      @tonywatson987@tonywatson9876 ай бұрын
    • Are these designs more efficient then fixed wing aircrafts? They surely have an advantage with takeoff and landing requirements, but unless they are much more efficient then fixed wing designs I see them only in niche applications like espionage or military survailance where the stealthy look will play a big role.

      @axell964@axell9646 ай бұрын
    • @@axell964 I think one of the huge advantages is gliding. If you cut power to a drone's motors, it drops out of the sky. If a winged robot is high up enough, it can glide for long distances without using any energy due to updrafts. That's huge. Takes some battery to get up to altitude, and then takes no battery to glide for a mile, then a couple more flaps, and so on.

      @johnz5359@johnz53596 ай бұрын
  • I think Bio-mimicking wing designs are a great example or potential use case for a compliant mechanics application.

    @L33tSkE3t@L33tSkE3t6 ай бұрын
    • I can see carbon fiber feathers, synthetic muscles, with aluminum alloy bones, fairly soon.

      @Giganfan2k1@Giganfan2k16 ай бұрын
    • @@Giganfan2k1 That sounds awesome and really exciting!

      @L33tSkE3t@L33tSkE3t6 ай бұрын
    • Best stalkers will have them for sure 😅😂😂😂

      @Twisted_in_head@Twisted_in_head6 ай бұрын
    • @@toren9120 Scroll up and you'll see there's a whole video about it!

      @mickmccasker6401@mickmccasker64016 ай бұрын
    • Bruce Wayne may already own the patent😅

      @kwalelalipimile3894@kwalelalipimile38946 ай бұрын
  • I noticed, years ago, when I raised Hawks and Owls, that a bird's feathers were made to allow air to flow through the wing when the bird raises its wings by sort of twisting each feather and then, on the down swing the structure of each feather works kind of like a stop valve because of the way the feathers grow, with the trailing edge bumping into the leading edge of the feather behind. I noticed this because of the way the bird would groom its feathers. With its beak running, from the attachment point, along the trailing edge of the disarranged feather toward the outward tip of the wing. This would not only correct relation of the feather to leading edge of the following feather but would correct all the little "feather-lets" back into position. It was a thing of beauty.

    @jameswest4819@jameswest48195 ай бұрын
    • That's nice, a really dynamic system!

      @tomhummel2641@tomhummel2641Ай бұрын
    • Owls also have different feather mechanics to other birds. Owls are the only bird that can take off silently but they had to ditch the waterproof festhers to achieve this. Don't know if you've seen a wet owl, water runs of ducks but owls look like the water has penetrated their souls.

      @not_glad@not_glad8 күн бұрын
    • @@not_glad The owl I raised didn't seem to get soaked from the rain. He just kind of adjusted his feathers, pulled his wings close and the rain rolled right off. He was a Great Horned Owl that I raised from a downy chick.

      @jameswest4819@jameswest48198 күн бұрын
  • The Swift is amazing. Yet I must call out the engineers for all the models. I am astonished that you people can come up with mechanical representations of biological joints. Well done the lot of you. Advancing engineering technology well beyond my generation. Kudos

    @mykul8151@mykul81516 ай бұрын
  • I own 3 birds and have had the chance to study their wings up close. The magic is not so much in the wing itself but the feathers. The robotic swift is good but the feathers were more uniform than in a bird. Most of the flight power in a wing is managed by just 4 primary feathers. Wing shape is managed by a larger number of secondary feathers and aerodynamics is handled by small feathers called coverts. Together these make an amazing dynamic and ridiculously light system.

    @drfill9210@drfill92106 ай бұрын
    • It’s also worth keeping in mind how ideally the load on the wing is distributed or how ideally the wing is adapted to the loads.

      @mikhailk3572@mikhailk35726 ай бұрын
    • @mikhailk3572 yes. You can in many ways think of the primary flight feathers as fingers. Think about how you can put your hand on an object and reactively control parts of it with an outstretched hand. In that way, a bird can use their wings to compensate for loads, changes in speed, wind gusts etc on a cm by cm basis. In this way a bird wing is nothing like any of the drone wings except for the flapping action

      @drfill9210@drfill92106 ай бұрын
    • God is great. Macro-evolution proven impossible: Mind free to think ergo not a slave to physics ergo not physical ergo genetic evolution can never make a species or race thereof become an intellectually superior creature. No, racist atheist fanatics. We did not come from "subhuman blacks." Now bark like dogs because reason isn't your thing.

      @user-qd4td7yb8e@user-qd4td7yb8e6 ай бұрын
    • ​@@drfill9210that sound too intricate to mimick

      @pocarisweet8336@pocarisweet83366 ай бұрын
    • @pocarisweet8336 you make a good point- I'm sure however, that you could calculate average pressure on each feather- about 4 will do- then have 1 small servo per feather (8 in all) that just pushes underperformed feathers harder... or less... perhaps the wrong combo needs to be learned in ai

      @drfill9210@drfill92106 ай бұрын
  • Birds can pull this off because they are able to sense the environment and other countless variables and intuitively adjust to everything at once. It's like walking but on a higher level of complexity, and we know how hard it is to get a robot to walk.

    @-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.-@-.._.-_...-_.._-..__..._.-.-.-6 ай бұрын
    • I'm not sure that flying IS a higher level of complexity than walking. Both are pretty darn complex. But working in the favor of walking robots is the fact that walking isn't terribly weight sensitive, so control systems can be big and bulky. I'm not sure effectively emulating bird or bat flight will be possible until we are able to effectively emulate muscles.

      @reaganharder1480@reaganharder14806 ай бұрын
    • @@reaganharder1480 You walk in two dimensions. Left, right, forward and back. Add in the third dimension and yes, things can get real complex real quick. So IMHO flying is at a higher level of complexity. It's impressive to see the level of control these creators have built using nothing more than flapping wings. The future of drone flight is bright. Until then I'll just fly my two DJI drones. They're fun and my dog goes nutz when I fly them. Makes for great retarded dog videos. 😄

      @DaveBuildsThings@DaveBuildsThings6 ай бұрын
    • @@reaganharder1480 Muscles are actually darn inefficient when it comes to transfereing chemical energy to motion.

      @axell964@axell9646 ай бұрын
    • But there are sensors that can achieve the same while also calculating and adjusting with much more precision and speed than any brain can?

      @zz3OPEN@zz3OPEN6 ай бұрын
    • ​@@DaveBuildsThingsWalking does actually have to factor in the third dimension due to gravity and ground not always being flat, although flying still is more complex

      @TheUltraDinoboy@TheUltraDinoboy6 ай бұрын
  • the pure durability of multi rotors is going to be hard to beat

    @mrmr3621@mrmr36216 ай бұрын
  • I did a school internship at Festo 5 years ago and it was a blast. Really an amazing and brilliant company that does so many cool things

    @luciusoppeln1784@luciusoppeln17845 сағат бұрын
  • Outstanding look at basic to advanced bionic drones! Extremely fascinating and definitely part of our amazing future. The fact that you beautifully return to nature itself by linking to Planet Wild at the end couldn't be better. Bravo!

    @scottgarriott3884@scottgarriott38846 ай бұрын
  • So, the primary advantage of quadcopter drones is ultimately maneuverability. They can be quite stable in a hover and can quickly translate or rotate in any axis at any time. Most of these flapping wing drones require forward movement to stay airborne, which is quite a bit more like a fixed wing airplane, which we have had remote controlled versions of for a long time. Other than that swallow prototype, the only advantage I'm seeing over a classic fixed wing prop driven design is the ability to blend in with the environment, which is only really useful for surveillance and military applications

    @reaganharder1480@reaganharder14806 ай бұрын
    • I think the benefit will be from humming bird style hovering which can then easily transition into forward flight. This bridges the gap between fixed wing and rotary drones, though it'll only be relevant until somebody develops a proper vtol fixed wing drone.

      @matthewbadger8685@matthewbadger86856 ай бұрын
    • Black Shouldered kites hover - I have see this tonnes of times. I have watched Rainbow Lorikeets hover also.

      @nordic5490@nordic54906 ай бұрын
    • Also, significantly quieter

      @jackdeniston59@jackdeniston596 ай бұрын
    • @@matthewbadger8685 if said tech can be developed to work on a larger craft, then yes, it could definitely fill a middle ground. That said, I do wonder if it would still be simpler to make a prop driven system with a rotating wing and motor design similar to the Osprey airplane thing.

      @reaganharder1480@reaganharder14806 ай бұрын
    • no, I don't think that DARPA funded these projects these kind of things

      @beyondrecall9446@beyondrecall94466 ай бұрын
  • I'm imagining passenger airplanes being dragon shaped, the wings flapping, the neck pumping during liftoff. What a fun idea 😊

    @joshuafedorchuk1257@joshuafedorchuk12576 ай бұрын
    • Might as well mount a flamethrower, for landing strip clearing purposes.

      @stepansraka3608@stepansraka36086 ай бұрын
    • A better idea for molecular biology.

      @FarmerBrutus@FarmerBrutus3 ай бұрын
    • I don't know if Flapping is still more efficient at such high scales. We know it's definitely _possible_ due to the existence of Quetzalcoatlus, but at higher airspeed especially, I imagine flapping runs into the same issue as propellers when compared to "reactive thrust" That said, being able to adjust wing shape without mechanical hinges would be _incredible_

      @spindash64@spindash643 ай бұрын
  • the idea of potential robotic grenade birds that blend in is terrifying, even just the reconnaissance idea is scary

    @Saint_Mono@Saint_MonoАй бұрын
  • This is really fascinating. It's amazing such a complex mechanism evolved in nature. Leonardo DaVinci was on the right track. He was just 500 years ahead of his time.

    @bob456fk6@bob456fk66 ай бұрын
    • I highly recommend the biography by Walter Isaacson.

      @robtk3@robtk36 ай бұрын
    • I agree

      @drakemia4079@drakemia40796 ай бұрын
    • It took nature hundreds of millions years to perfect this design :D quite a bit of time if you ask me!

      @pitrek121g@pitrek121g6 ай бұрын
    • @@pitrek121g it is amazing at that I must say.

      @drakemia4079@drakemia40796 ай бұрын
    • the fact that most of the "adaptations" need multiple mutations that are useless without the others proves they didnt evolve but rather were designed.

      @jorejaha@jorejaha6 ай бұрын
  • Bionic-birds is such an inelegant collection of syllables - there is an already extant word: ornithopter.

    @philleasthouse3791@philleasthouse37916 ай бұрын
    • I agree. But ornithopter has the connotation of a human powered vehicle. Maybe ornithopter drone? Drone thopter?

      @murunbuchstanzangur@murunbuchstanzangur6 ай бұрын
    • NOPE - go check it on GOOGLE or any other online search engine. An ornithopter is defined as "ANY mechanical device that flies by flapping its wings" and NOT limited to human power. It is the action not the drive-train that operates the mechanism of the wings.

      @philleasthouse3791@philleasthouse37916 ай бұрын
    • Flappy things?

      @obi-ron@obi-ron4 ай бұрын
  • Designers and engineers have always looked at nature for inspiration (biomimicry). Festo really has been on the cutting edge of this for many years.

    @Phrancis5@Phrancis56 ай бұрын
  • For utility purposes, I think that tilt-rotors are a more likely evolution from current multi-rotor drones. If you need both lift capacity and efficiency in a vehicle with vertical take-off and hover capability, that's probably the best way to go.

    @Ostsol@Ostsol6 ай бұрын
  • When I was a child some 30 years ago or so, my grandfather had two wind-up mechanical birds that flew. This video reminded me of that.

    @aremoreequal@aremoreequal6 ай бұрын
  • After seeing the artificial spy hummingbird, i must apologize to the "birds arent real" folks. They are partly right. Some birds arent real.

    @Likexner@Likexner5 ай бұрын
  • Well, interesting. During my days as a hang glider pilot, I designed, built, and lost many 'sacrificial victims to the wind gods'. The problems with ornithopters still seems to be mechanical efficiency. Lighter ones are possible due to new building materials, but the complicated mechanics seem to limit their practicality. It will be interesting to see how this progresses....

    @robohippy@robohippy6 ай бұрын
    • The next step, or the step after that, is to mimic bird/bat joints tendons & muscles.

      @briancavanagh7048@briancavanagh70485 ай бұрын
  • Some amazing engineering here! Not sure wings will ever replace prop drones though, they just don’t have the lift capacity. I’d imagine nature has found the limit of the (flapping) wing, so don’t see much improvement being made mechanically. Their big advantage I guess is their potential for stealth, no ones going to take much notice of a bird circling overhead, and if they could make them land convincingly they’d be the perfect spy device.

    @Yosser70@Yosser706 ай бұрын
    • For long range use at low speed flapping wings have a better theoretical maximum efficiency than a prop. That's because they move more air slower to create their reactive force, meaning less energy is needed for the kinetic energy of the reaction air

      @trueriver1950@trueriver19506 ай бұрын
    • Maybe drones will have both wings and a prop in the future and use whichever makes the most sense for their path.

      @trignite@trignite5 ай бұрын
  • only one question: how is the wear/maintenance on this mode of motion as compared to typical rotors? this question was particularly inspired by the hummingbirds, for which i can only imagine what a maintenance nightmare the complexity makes

    @icecreambone@icecreambone6 ай бұрын
    • We've learned a lot about compliant mechanisms since 2011, there is a lot of room for improvement. Even in the video it was mentioned that there were still improvements to be made to that mechanism.

      @error.418@error.4186 ай бұрын
    • Biological systems are self-repairing.. there's still a way to go for mechanical systems.

      @tohaason@tohaason6 ай бұрын
    • ​@@tohaasonThis is easily one of the more valuable traits inherent to cellular tissue structure, over a single monolithic piece or assemblage of such pieces.

      @WhatIsThatThingDoing@WhatIsThatThingDoing5 ай бұрын
  • a while back there was a series and one of the books was named something like “Riptide”. one line in the book that i liked was “we started modeling our technology after the animals around us. after all they’d been doing it their whole lives” to explain the animal themed tech. however i think this is such an amazing idea and as a kid i thought this eventually would legit be the way.

    @posermatt1293@posermatt12935 ай бұрын
  • That is Outstanding. Best video I've seen today!

    @jorgecanalesbarrera7090@jorgecanalesbarrera70905 ай бұрын
  • Ornithopters imitate birds in the same way as a kazoo imitates a symphony.

    @googleyoutubechannel8554@googleyoutubechannel85546 ай бұрын
  • *I mounted a .15CC Nitro-methane engine on my DJI Air 3 and now it has 45 mile range (11 miles out) and has a speed of 75 MPH with a 150ML fuel tank. The high forward speed doubles the flight time to 95 minuets since LIFT is doubled and the propellers only need 15% of max-power to fly level since they start acting like wings at high speeds. Take-off can be a bit scary.*

    @johnslugger@johnslugger6 ай бұрын
  • Absolutely fascinating. Thanks so much.

    @pauldarbishire7226@pauldarbishire72265 ай бұрын
  • You have great editing skills. I enjoyed watching you trying to fly your "bird" for the first time. Reminded me of baby birds just learning to fly.

    @moodberry@moodberry6 ай бұрын
  • This looks like a great application for compliant mechanisms.

    @mekkler@mekkler6 ай бұрын
  • About 10 years ago, i saw a gigantic black UFO in the night that i could only describe as a giant mechanical bird. It had a spotlight that shined down and it shut off as soon as i saw it , it glided silently over the road, i saw it flap one time as it glided away. This thing was the size a house!

    @ekojar3047@ekojar30476 ай бұрын
  • This is truly amazing.❤

    @carlossaez3586@carlossaez35865 ай бұрын
  • I remember many years ago when Festo showed a video of the first robotic flying seagull. I was totally blown away. What's really missing now is fully artificial muscle so that we can get something which is way better than motors and batteries.

    @tohaason@tohaason6 ай бұрын
  • An interesting thing to me about flock flying is it might be able to defray the payload problem. Rather than putting everything on one drone, maybe one carries a camera suite, one high fidelity navigation equipment, and one high power transmitter. Could be cool, and also allow flocks with graceful failure and high redundancy.

    @16randomcharacters@16randomcharacters6 ай бұрын
  • Imagine swarms of these bionic wing drones targeting jet engine intakes of an aircraft for AA.

    @user-qd8oi2gz1q@user-qd8oi2gz1q4 ай бұрын
  • Thanks Tom! Great work!

    @jamesquinn3414@jamesquinn34142 ай бұрын
  • wow this is amazing infomation!!!

    @roveism@roveism4 ай бұрын
  • I have wondering for years why submarines have not done this year's ago. The endless search for quiet propellers. I have seen the dramatic improvement of kite foiling. It's astounding to actually watch them almost jesus like playing on water.

    @peetsnort@peetsnort6 ай бұрын
    • To be fair, you don't really know what the latest propeller designs are like since they are classified.

      @CheapSushi@CheapSushi6 ай бұрын
    • ​​@@CheapSushiSo you're just going to overlook the idea that this video has *nothing* to do with subs... And that subs can't even *use* wings 🙄

      @MadScientist267@MadScientist2676 ай бұрын
    • ​@@MadScientist267think of a stingray

      @grantogilvie3458@grantogilvie34586 ай бұрын
    • @@MadScientist267 Flippers in marine animals are basically analogous to wings, and similarly you can compare submarines to aircraft in some respects.

      @wardd1337@wardd13376 ай бұрын
    • Having moving mechanized joints would be highly susceptible to structural collapse at such pressures. And you would need to have a flexible skin over the whole sub that can withstand the pressures and temperatures of the deep ocean in order to keep the joints sealed.

      @Bagginsess@Bagginsess6 ай бұрын
  • The trouble with wing based drones is the large number of very small moving parts, compared to an electric motor spinning a propeller.

    @bob_thebuilder@bob_thebuilder6 ай бұрын
    • A motor definitely has more moving parts in the bearings alone. The difference is bearing technology is WAY more advanced than lever technology. Nearly all machines have a spinning mechanism (think cars) but very few machines rely on a lever as their primary force application. Things like claw machines and construction vehicles come to mind but even these machines have more technology in their tracks and wheels than their cranes. If we focused on it, the moving parts in a wing could be simple as if not more simple than current bearing technology

      @ekothesilent9456@ekothesilent94565 ай бұрын
  • I think they way more ahead than we think. This is absolutely brilliant.

    @geoffallert1921@geoffallert19214 ай бұрын
  • Can't wait to go see it.

    @glennmacpherson5489@glennmacpherson54896 ай бұрын
  • So where can we get one of those little flappy drone kits you were trying? that looked fun!

    @drunkskunk00@drunkskunk006 ай бұрын
  • Just an FYI: My father brought a spring-powered “robot” bird back from Europe in the sixties, and it flew perfectly. It flew by flapping its flexible wings - just like a real bird. This was 55 years ago.

    @thetooginator153@thetooginator1536 ай бұрын
    • I'm sure there are many people who would appreciate further information on this

      @myriaddsystems@myriaddsystems6 ай бұрын
    • I'm one of such people

      @easingsounds4685@easingsounds46856 ай бұрын
    • Look up Schylling Tim Bird. Came out in the 70s. My dad also brought one home for me from europe but probably in the early 90's.

      @DavePetrillo@DavePetrillo6 ай бұрын
    • I remember having one of them. They flew well, but had zero control.

      @adrianscarlett@adrianscarlett6 ай бұрын
    • The keyword for this is "Ornithopter" and they are the non controllable , non electric, version of the device Ryan flies in the video.

      @squelchstuff@squelchstuff6 ай бұрын
  • Very good video. I got lots to learn.

    @davidlourensz4822@davidlourensz48223 ай бұрын
  • I cannot overstate how smart it was to show the split-screen of your drone assembly along with your sponsor's ad at the same time.

    @billm5555@billm55555 ай бұрын
    • i just use sponsorblock

      @bignerd3783@bignerd37834 ай бұрын
  • I see a very bright future for bionic wings, I'm a little biased though as I study Biomimetics. It's a natural progression though as nature is the universe greatest library and it's only our lack of capability that stops us from utilising a vast array of lovely efficient solutions (often par excellence), that nature has worked out already. ML will make the biggest difference in the coming years in bridging between the complexity of nature and human engineering, I'm really looking forward to seeing what pops up in the next decade!

    @biomimetical@biomimetical6 ай бұрын
    • Yeah a bright future for the military. Enjoy that fat MIC paycheck.

      @CheapSushi@CheapSushi6 ай бұрын
    • That's funny because my first thought for this type of wing was for environmental monitoring, they would be great for not disturbing animals, of course also more likely to get preyed on haha

      @biomimetical@biomimetical6 ай бұрын
    • Yeah I work in film and games :) the game I'm developing actually has a lot of Biomimetics in it, it's called Aten7

      @biomimetical@biomimetical6 ай бұрын
    • The future is now, it's always been. kzhead.info/channel/PLGeMg5GzLGWaXZWhR9HSMdHbZQcQ4xDfJ.html&si=e_epjVva97c0hL0K

      @Knights-Core_Nightcore@Knights-Core_Nightcore6 ай бұрын
    • I see actually very few commercial applications for such ways of flying. Outside of military survailance and spying there is not really a need or even advantage. Fixed wing systems will always be more efficient and way less complex to build and maintain. Rotor based drones like quadcopers will always have a higher maneuverability, can easily set on a stable hovering position and are also much less complex. Both systems can also be upscaled much more easy then flex winged designs. Beside being cool, their main advantage is the ability to blend into the natural environment very easily and convincingly.

      @axell964@axell9646 ай бұрын
  • It's my understanding that rotating wheels, or propellers have not evolved in nature because of the bloodflow problem. If a propeller spins freely, separate from the body of the animal, then how do you get blood through that rotating joint? I was under the impression that propellers are more optimal than any flapping wing, since they don't have to change speed, and thus their momentum doesn't come into play (not quite true for current quadcopters, but for fixed wing planes, this is largely true). If nature could have designed animals with propellers, it probably would have

    @crashfactory@crashfactory6 ай бұрын
    • Drones with propellers are inefficient because they don't have wings. What's magical about birds is that they can climb, glide, and dive by altering the shape of their wings. Current flying machines are great at doing one of those things, but cannot do all of them. I don't think it's fair to say that wings are more efficient, they are just more versatile. We are trying to replicate wings so that we don't have to choose between a helicopter or a glider when we go flying.

      @puffinjuice@puffinjuice6 ай бұрын
    • @@puffinjuice i wasn't trying to compare a quadcopter drone to a mechanical flying bird, i was trying to compare a propeller to a flapping wing. The propeller is more efficient. On a gliding plane, and a gliding bird, you'll see increased efficiency of the propulsion. On a hovering bird vs a hovering drone, i'm not really sure, but as stated above, the advantage of a constantly rotating wing (propeller blade) is that you don't need to change angle or speed within the cycle. They are both wings, one is simple in constant motion, while the other needs to stop and start, and changes direction through sub-optimal angles of attach, and fight the momentum of the wing itself. if you want to argue further, lets hold it to a comparison of a constant speed wing, vs a changing speed wing. my point is also only about efficiency, not about agility or flexibility. You can get increased flexibility with rotating wings/propellors, but at the cost of needing to moderate either the blade pitch, or speed of a fixed pitch propeller.

      @crashfactory@crashfactory6 ай бұрын
    • Bird way of flying will always be less efficient then fixed winged aircraft. Bird wings will always have less maneuverability and hovering stability then copters. They are good at being halfway decent at several things at the same time thou. I do not think they will get an application outside of military and spying where their natural looking movements offer great stealth.

      @axell964@axell9646 ай бұрын
    • Propellers can’t glide, you would run out of energy within a few hours. Modern jets can float, glide, and thrust.

      @AYVYN@AYVYN4 ай бұрын
    • ​@@AYVYN folding propellers glide. Additionally, unpowered fixed propellers can "windmill" to reduce drag a little. Additionally (again), variable pitch propellers can adjust their angle to be a lower drag angle of attack when unpowered. Lastly, How would a propeller "run out of energy" but a flapping wing that can "thrust" not? You do understand that a flapping wing also requires energy, right? "Thrust" cannot come from nowhere. My whole point is that propellers are MORE energy efficient than flapping wings, and thus, with a given energy value, a propeller will go further. You don't get free energy from flapping wings.

      @crashfactory@crashfactory4 ай бұрын
  • It's incredible to me how far we have come technology wise yet nature can still teach us a thing or two.

    @TotalAlchemy@TotalAlchemy4 ай бұрын
  • Type 1 myself. Stick on, 2 week, monitors are really convenient and com with phone. Little is perfect! Loved the vid. Just subscribed.

    @marcuswatson23@marcuswatson236 ай бұрын
  • So birds aren't real after all?

    @v8mufflerboy84@v8mufflerboy846 ай бұрын
    • Like everything else, the truth is a paradox.

      @blairs6664@blairs666426 күн бұрын
    • have you ever seen a baby pigeon?

      @cvspvr@cvspvr23 күн бұрын
    • @@cvspvrno your so right man I’ve never ever ever ever seen any baby birds this is such a massive discovery 😮😮😮😮

      @kboski@kboski4 күн бұрын
  • Can they be modified to drop grenades in war?

    @George........@George........6 ай бұрын
    • I would bet my bottom dollar that that's why the research money is so plentiful

      @peetsnort@peetsnort6 ай бұрын
    • They already do. I'm never parking under a tree again.

      @OutOfNamesToChoose@OutOfNamesToChoose6 ай бұрын
    • @@peetsnort Recon

      @23lkjdfjsdlfj@23lkjdfjsdlfj6 ай бұрын
    • No chance - they barely keep themself off the ground, payload capacity is Nil.

      @PiDsPagePrototypes@PiDsPagePrototypes6 ай бұрын
    • @@peetsnort No, their main military value will be surveilance, not bombing.

      @axell964@axell9646 ай бұрын
  • The mental flashbang of this man just appearing in the Chancellors building 😂

    @christopher22jj@christopher22jj6 ай бұрын
  • All that is missing is the vortices that feathers make. The Swift drone looks more like a swallow, swifts beat their wings alternately. Great video, thanks for posting!

    @LucasRichardStephens@LucasRichardStephensАй бұрын
  • "bionic drones" Ornithopters. Why are we avoiding the word Ornithopter?

    @Strawberry92fs@Strawberry92fs5 ай бұрын
    • 0 mana 0/2 flying!

      @unixtreme@unixtreme29 күн бұрын
  • Pteradons had a flight system kinda similar to bats (from what I understand), and apparently it was very efficient compared to birbs. Also worth noting birb wings are also hands, the bones in them are from elongated fingers, you can see the development from the arms and hands of dromaeosaur dinosaurs into wings.

    @Lowlandlord@Lowlandlord6 ай бұрын
    • da birbs

      @jacobwood7083@jacobwood70835 ай бұрын
    • It is not possible that any dinosaur became a bird. Jesus Christ made everything after its kind.

      @earlysda@earlysda5 ай бұрын
    • @@earlysda its a fact, cope with it.

      @Virsho@Virsho5 ай бұрын
    • @@VirshoVirsho, "Evolution hasn't been observed while it's happening." . If that statement is true (and it is), it means Evolution fails the scientific method.

      @earlysda@earlysda5 ай бұрын
  • I remember doing a little bit of undergrad research on the aerodynamic characteristics of wings with flexible membranes, like the bat wings Pretty interesting

    @cmleibenguth@cmleibenguth19 күн бұрын
  • Amazing video! I love these robot birds! Also I recently learned that bats have a higher flight speed than most birds, so that could be a good reason to focus on bat flight mechanics over others.

    @angelarch5352@angelarch53523 ай бұрын
  • I think the biggest testament to how brilliant the bat's wing is that a single family of animals has inspired some of our most prominent myths, including dragons and demons.

    @dombo813@dombo8136 ай бұрын
    • Myths? Lol

      @CosmicCricetinae@CosmicCricetinae6 ай бұрын
    • @@CosmicCricetinae Yes, there are too many stories and paintings and carvings of dragons for them all to be imaginary. Some of them look just like dinosaurs, oddly enough.

      @stevesherman1743@stevesherman17436 ай бұрын
    • Dragons were real and demons still are. Though the depictions of both are symbolic, not accurate.

      @gracefool@gracefool6 ай бұрын
    • @@gracefoolgrace, you need to check out the Ica Stones.

      @earlysda@earlysda5 ай бұрын
  • If they wanna make larger drones based on animals, they could take inspiration from pterosaurs. Though we're not certain how exactly they flew, we're pretty sure that some species could grow upwards of 10m in wingspan. They had efficient bauplans. Surely they had to have been doing something right.

    @lanata64@lanata646 ай бұрын
    • They had hollow bones, couldn't carry any extra weight, and probably had to throw themselves into flight and couldn't just take off. We don't have the materials and we never will. Nature found the best answer and until we can bio engineer something similar it will be a pipe dream.

      @Bakumatsu1@Bakumatsu16 ай бұрын
    • Didn’t they fly similar to bats? They have a similar wing structure? Bats just don’t have hollow bones so they can’t get as large.

      @greasher926@greasher9266 ай бұрын
    • ​@@greasher926i'm not sure i've seen an actual like demonstration of what their flight looks like. their takeoff is likely similar though

      @lanata64@lanata646 ай бұрын
  • I'd love to see a discussion that includes historical attempts by humans to fly by mimicking birds. Other than the problem of weight, how close were they and how did their designs compare to that of these new drones? btw, my cat would love that thing

    @stevenleek1254@stevenleek12546 ай бұрын
  • Dear autor you are so cool, i cant stop watching your channel!

    @hillarious2393@hillarious23932 ай бұрын
  • Psssss! You shouldn't reveal HOW birds aren't real. It's supposed to be a secret.

    @petterbirgersson4489@petterbirgersson44895 ай бұрын
    • Humans aren’t smart enough to invent nature, just repurpose its designs.

      @jeromilittle@jeromilittleАй бұрын
  • Use their proper name: They are called ornithopters!

    @eckligt@eckligt2 ай бұрын
  • Batman is now going to have a literal BatDrone

    @quironmiranda2591@quironmiranda25916 ай бұрын
  • Great vid!

    @fonwoolridge@fonwoolridge6 ай бұрын
  • Just further proof that birds aren't real.

    @asimpletune@asimpletune6 ай бұрын
    • Neither are people. . .experimental for sure.

      @shop970@shop9706 ай бұрын
  • Yeah, I've been researching the topic of ornitopters a few years back. Turns out for now propellers are almost always the most effective (and have less moving parts). The biggest flying (dinosaur, probably only gliding tho) animal could weigh as much as 250 kg! - right now the biggest is albatros I think. Theoretically.. if you could build something that weighs roughly 170kg.. add a human.. and you're riding a dragon my friend. I was planning to get back to the idea when we'll have sum more progress in technology. Especially lighter materials with the same or bigger strength

    @kanter1598@kanter15986 ай бұрын
    • Condor...

      @dwwolf4636@dwwolf46366 ай бұрын
  • Something I'd hope to hear more about is the ability for soaring birds to detect and utilize air columns - rising heat allows such birds to gain elevation with minimal effort turning in circles to remain in the column. I think this could be combined with these bionic wing drones through specialized sensors and good software to estimate and leverage rising columns of heat.

    @SemlerPDX@SemlerPDX8 күн бұрын
  • I hope that he had talked about the bionic wings during the video. However, if had helped a lot on my project and keep up the good work!

    @axolotlterry6459@axolotlterry64593 ай бұрын
  • I had the Flytech flying dragonfly model from WowWee. It had a steep learning curve, but one thing I noticed was that every time I took it outside, the birds would attack it....even though it was bigger than most of the birds around.....

    @grendlsma@grendlsma24 күн бұрын
  • Hey Ziroth, great video on this one. Where can I get the drone you used in it? Thanks!

    @temmy2367@temmy23674 ай бұрын
  • Flapping propulsion is cool and all but probably won't scale up very well. I'd like to see research on: -Tip feathers creating roll with proverse yaw, and yaw management for craft without vertical tails like birds. -Changing the area of the tail to help control pitch. -Reconfigure for best glide, min sink and extreme stall conditions using tip and tail feathers. -Eddy flaps and (autostable?) tip feathers for eVTOL.

    @OzAndyify@OzAndyify6 ай бұрын
  • Well done Ziroth! By trying to copy nature we re only more amazed about what nature is able to do! You addressed the issue of running-time. 3 hours max. Again: nature is still sooo much better. Amazing, no?

    @kaihanstein52@kaihanstein526 ай бұрын
  • Ok, this is coolest thing I’ve seen in like 30 years.

    @gigidope@gigidope6 ай бұрын
  • Very interesting I have always asked myself what makes the birds fly long distance without any up and down of their wings Infact what proell them forward motions when their wings at rest in stretched position

    @mziwovuyomasoka7936@mziwovuyomasoka79366 ай бұрын
  • When I was around 10, I got a gift of a wind-up plastic bird this was about 1977. It was made in France had thick round rubber band for power and an extremely simple mechanism. The wings were one plastic beam on the leading edge and a mylar airfoil with a L -x- W ratio of approximately 2.8. The membrane was not taught, but had slack on the trailing edge, with one rearward attachment point 2/3 of the way out from the body. I don't remember the company or product name, but I believe it's been around for quite some time. When fully wound it would fly for a surprising amount of time, maybe 30 seconds. Quite controllable flight pattern and elevation control because of a ball joint mounted tail of similar design. It would fly perfectly at altitude and moderate speed in circles of any diameter or straight depending on tail pitch and yaw.

    @JoeSmith-cy9wj@JoeSmith-cy9wj5 ай бұрын
  • I think it would be much easier and more efficient to make sturdy wings like a plane and just use the propeller at the front. And upgraded version of this could be a VTOL mechanic like MV-22 Osprey or something but perhaps with only one propeller.

    @Bajtjr@Bajtjr6 ай бұрын
  • Very interesting, thank you for sharing. I have question, which kit and from where did you buy it?

    @sfjadi@sfjadi5 ай бұрын
  • 00:00 🛸 Drones today have limitations, spurring interest in bionic wings for enhanced maneuverability and efficiency. 01:21 🦅 Real birds' wing movements - folding, twisting, bending - inspire bionic drone designs, enabling energy efficiency and versatile flight control. 02:30 🦇 Bats' flight, resembling swimming, influences drone wings; long fingers and wing control offer exceptional maneuverability. 03:55 🚁 Bionic drone assembly involves converting motor rotation into wing flapping motion for flight; initial test flights exhibit agility and directional changes. 05:47 🦇 Bionic flying fox by Festo showcases lightweight, flexible wings, improving performance through motion capture and machine learning for autonomous flight. 07:09 🌐 Nano air vehicles, like the hummingbird-inspired drone, demonstrate intricate flight capabilities for surveillance and research, with ongoing efforts to enhance stability and silence. 08:57 🛠 Research focuses on wing angle optimization and joint elasticity to boost efficiency, stability, and payload capacity in bionic drones. 09:53 🐦 Bionic Swift's design mimics bird plumage for superior energy efficiency, precise flight control, and coordinated swarm behavior via GPS and communication technology. 10:49 🕊 Bionic birds demonstrate increasing flight durations, showcasing potential advancements in drone technology, especially when combined with AI for autonomous flight correction. 11:29 🔬 Bionic wings hold promise for future drone development, with military interest and ongoing advancements in maneuverability and flight capabilities.

    @dameanvil@dameanvil4 ай бұрын
  • landing is a whole set of techniques and skills

    @DigitalXrisXros@DigitalXrisXros6 ай бұрын
  • I'm surprised insects were not mentioned. The epitome of flight is the dragonfly. Which is why it has the highest hunting success rate of 95%.

    @joejoe-lb6bw@joejoe-lb6bw6 ай бұрын
    • agreed: the dragonfly is so cool, it gives me goosebumps

      @rmschindler144@rmschindler144Ай бұрын
  • If the percentage of energy efficiency was also mentioned in the video that would have been great. I think this would be more useful only in surveillance scenarios and definitely would give an entry into toy market.

    @spranavshanker@spranavshanker6 ай бұрын
  • It's amazing how robotic techology went so far, opening up so many possibilities

    @ddd.777-@ddd.777-6 ай бұрын
    • War is lucrative

      @anywallsocket@anywallsocket6 ай бұрын
  • Great video!

    @TheSoul1988@TheSoul19884 ай бұрын
  • Da Vinci made one of these. Really insane seeing these become remote controlled. I had a rubber band powered one as a kid.

    @Tanookicatoon@Tanookicatoon6 ай бұрын
  • This is so cool. Would love to this implement with large pterosaurs like Hatzegopteryx or Quetzalcoatlus. They are more energy efficient than birds and bats. And they can also get like 3 times bigger than either of them ( like the size of a giraffe ), which would be a sight to see in real life.

    @void_stalker@void_stalker15 күн бұрын
  • It's off putting how chill this guy is over more surveillance. Off putting indeed.

    @OoTRIGGAMANoO@OoTRIGGAMANoO5 ай бұрын
  • I love the 1800s wing flapping machines , they were hilarious,, were seemingly going full circle.

    @airgunningyup@airgunningyup6 ай бұрын
  • great video

    @tomthompson7400@tomthompson74006 ай бұрын
  • Another cool idea for yours, diesel drones.

    @renanjacob6791@renanjacob67914 ай бұрын
  • In the future, it would be interesting to see this technology applied to ultralights.

    @BobDiaz123@BobDiaz1236 ай бұрын
  • Ah yes, the militaries' answer to how can we make drones even more uncanny to the public, add bat wings.

    @ZeroSnake@ZeroSnake4 ай бұрын
  • Wowwee released a deagonfly robot back in 2007. It was hard to fly, but once you got the hang of it you could have some fun

    @Hopkai@Hopkai6 ай бұрын
  • This is GREAT! When will we be reinventing ultralight aircraft?

    @fboomerang@fboomerang2 ай бұрын
  • I witnessed some of the first flights of the world's first R/C orthinopter at Wallaby Ranch in the early 2000's.

    @crow578@crow5782 ай бұрын
  • amazing

    @ohgosh5892@ohgosh58925 ай бұрын
  • To get more lift maybe there could be wings based on pterosaurs, which catapulted themselves into the air using all 4 limbs, which is what allowed them to grow so big

    @TheGBZard@TheGBZard5 ай бұрын
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