Now that Season 3 of Star Trek Discovery has begun, I figured it was time to check in on this awesome show from CBS and see if it's still as good as we all remember.
Now that Season 3 of Star Trek Discovery has begun, I figured it was time to check in on this awesome show from CBS and see if it's still as good as we all remember.
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I stopped bothering with shit like this (as well as mainstream media) years ago because I know their fraught with woke horse shit. I find out just how bad they are via folks like yourself. I gotta say, your confirmation is probably much more entertaining that the woke shit itself.
You piece of great Scottish ancient wisdom, you gave me so much pleasure and laughts on the other side of Europe. 60% you say is like sexy and gifted version of me said it. I couldn't agree more, they shited all the joy in the StarTracks with political and shallow pseudowisdom of dystopia, like many other things. Please, you great philosopher of today, could you analyze following: 1) Sexy Beast 2) The Proposition (great Australian movie in my opinion absolutely underated) 3) Upgrade 4) The Man Who Would Be a King (in the honor of giants late Sean Connery and Michael Caine, and how film makers are able to say so much of human nature and beeing critical without of preaching with cheap political tricks). Thank you, your KZhead Greatness.
Thoroughly enjoying strong female character in Redemption hahahaha
They're all on my Amazon Wish List. I'll be getting them soon, really looking forward to checking out your work.
“Diverse female space Jesus is wearing her wasp armor when she collides into a planet and finds discount Idris Elba”. GOLD.
I am now forever calling him Fake Heimdall lol.
I love it so funny comedy gold
She definitely has a knack for killing wonderful things. First she helped kill The Walking Dead, now Star Trek.
I actually liked discount Idris Elba... :-)
@@matth9558 Grudge is the only thing worth a shit on ST: Disco and easily the best actor.
The phrase _"Discovery has been renewed for a fourth season"_ holds the same weight as _"I'm sorry, but your chronic syphilis has returned."_
Well, the abbreviation STD doesn't come from nowhere.
@@Fenris86 Nice! 🤣 I legit forgot that was the abbreviation. Must have remembered subconsciously.
At least contracting syphilis was fun, the way leading to the 4th season is anything but.
@@Soridan I get at what you're saying, but... what a curious way to put it. XD
And I'm sure you've heard both.
As a fan of Star Trek for 40 years, I do not recognize this Discovery show as part of the Trek universe.
What about Picard?
@@mr.aleximer just as bad. C'mon: a ROBOT Picard?
@@rockefellersilva Picard tv show is even worse. Maybe the most destroyed character in all the movies and tv shows in history.
Same here. I count it as a part of the reboot timeline and not the prime timeline.
Me either I stopped watching disco and picard and never looked back after season 1 lol. I gladly watch the older ones though. I didn’t even bother with belowdecks I don’t know something just didn’t appeal to me it was too Rick and Morty
Good news, since Roddenberry's skeleton began spinning, we've discovered the secret of fusion power generation.
😂👌
"Diverse Female Space Jesus". 10/10
And worst female actor of all time! I swear everytime Sonequa Martin - Green shows up in a scene I cringe.
@@victorvazquez6072 that's a lot of cringing, since the paste her mug every where.
Just rename the show this, and take away their federation badges.
20 bucks says that she started out as a woke redhead but that wasn't gonna cut it in current year.
So they made Mary Sue canon?
It stops being diverse when everyone looks alike.
Because when everyone's super... No one will be.
🤯🤯🤯 🙊🙊🙊
And acts alike . This is cookie cutter acting 😒
@@morscoronam3779 funny it came from a "villain"...
It's like when you go to a vegan's house and everything tastes like cumin.
Y'know, I remember an episode of TNG where constant use of warp drives was beginning to manifest subspace distortions or something which would eventually make space travel near impossible. So at first I thought they could've used that instead of the dilithium thing, but that would require that they had seen TNG at all.
There's no way anyone on the writing team of Discovery or Picard has seen a single episode of TNG. TNG movies - maybe, but not the show.
Though it's far more likely than the dilithium thing, I doubt that the subspace distortions would be a problem by then. Considering the issue wasn't addressed after that episode, it has been assumed that they found a way to fix it.
"Force of Nature". To be fair, the Hekaras Corridor was already strained from subspace damage. The variable geometry nacelles in the Intrepid-class were supposed to have taken care of that problem. "All the dilithium in the galaxy just went poof"? Yeah, no.
@@crowbar_the_rogue as mkdumas has said, the subspace damage problem caused by warp drive was addressed by the Intrepid class design, and ultimately the need for variable geometry nacelles was rendered obsolete by the Sovereign class.
They solved this issue. Ships like voyager and the Enterprise E are subspace friendly, you can see in Voyager, it was represented in the variable geometry nacelles. But any idea would be better than that Honestly i am happy people still remember the good trek
I always liked how Star Trek was one of the few things that depicted a future with an adequately functioning society with people that cared about upholding morality and ethics because they understood that it's a slippery slope into everything becoming a miserable craphole if you don't. First episode of Discovery: "We can't talk to the Klingons, we have to shoot first!"
Not to mention planting a bomb on the body of a dead Klingon so that it would blow up inside the ship. Not like that is an actual war crime or something like that.
Discovery is set same era as Kirk when Klingons weren’t trusted. Although even Kirk at least talked first.
They really should have called this Star Trek: White Guilt
Or Star Trek: Reparations
Meh.. STD sums it up already..
lol so true
Nah keep it STD. The name it's self describes the show.😡
If you call it 'Star Trek: Diversity' you can keep the 'STD'...
“Discovery is less of an artistic endeavor & more of a platform for political & ideological messaging” And that is why no one watches Star Trek anymore
Thats why no one watches anything new, its all morally driven and politically motivated to a degree that is unbearable. Star Trek, Star wars, Ghost busters etc
@@sailorkek8672 you’re exactly right. It’ll be interesting how movies & TV shows will look in the coming years with Hollywood’s budget being slashed
As a lefty, I can tell you it got a lot more issues than that. Most characters are infantile idiots that should not have passed the character evaluation tests to enter the academy, the "plot" usually requires to blow the shit out of proportion, you can smell the self-importance of the writer and the absolute disregard of the lore. And regarding politics, lefties dislike nothing more than a bunch of "pseudo-champaign-socialists" using the themes of our political fights to look cool among peers, I think on the right you call it "virtual signaling".
The funny thing is, all of the series before this handled political issues as well. It's just they were issues that make sense for the episodes and they also didn't feel forced. They also treat Star Trek as if it was never diverse. I am very very convinced they never bothered watching any of the other series.
@dwdeline55 Their content (and their compatriots) is the *only* good thing to come out of this.
The Michael Burnham show has turned Star Trek into something I always “escaped to” into something I want to “escape from”.
Yes, it is defeatism - wanting to prepare people for managing the status quo instead of being a rebel and living a better way.
I’m currently watching Next Gen, the show is so mature, well written, character driven and just brilliant in every way
Nah, people romanticize TNG but it was a Crusher/Wheaton induced nightmare for a significant chunk of it's existence.
That's probably the best iteration of Star Trek besides the original Star Trek movies.
@@jaybroach4105otta agree with you on the Wheaton part. I always wanted to yell "shut up Wesley!" like Picard. Doesn't help that Will Wheaton is a raving lunatic soyboy in real life too.
I met Wil Wheaton on the cruise, and he was just as well-spoken as the other actors. People blame him for “Wesley saves the ship” but he didn’t write the first season scripts. That was the staff & Roddenberry approved those scripts .
Season 2 isn’t great either, but I blame the 1988 writers strike for that. Paramount had to recycle old scripts & scramble to salvage the remainder of the year. (Only 22 episodes instead of the standard 26.)
It’s called STD for a reason. You don’t want to catch this show.
Roflmao That is the best line i have heard yet to describe this show! Brilliant! lol
lol thank you for the laugh.
It deserves a clap.. one-handed clap.
@@nyetzdyec3391 So...a clap on the buttcheek? :thinking:
@@nitrox5915 a "one-handed clap" is an old term for VD/STD's.
Should have just been called, star trek: diversity.
That is far to STUNNING and BRAVE for this show😅
.... planet's ?
Umm, ok. Trek has always had diversity. So what's your point?
@@kingoffriesthekingwillrise1701 That is the point. Star Trek has always had a diverse cast of characters, but the people running the shows now either never seen them or will not accept that as all they are focused on are the caucasian actors and actresses who played the characters. Their using racism to fight racism. On top of that their claiming that they are "better people" for including 'X' actor or actress because of their skin color or beliefs instead of developing their story and characters so the audience can relate to them in some way.
@@ChidoriReaper in Star Trek they even had characters from 2 different species. Even if it's physically impossible but ehh. But forcing 'diversity' on something just to have it, is usually for racism and ruins the story most of the time. I remember when they were outraged over the game Kingdom Come, that it doesn't have asians and blacks in it.... it is a game set in 1403 in Bohemia during the usual "clusterfuck in the HRE".
"Discount Idris Elba introduces himself as Book, man I can't wait to meet his brother Door and his cousin Table." 🤣🤣
You realized she was named Michael for a reason (after Michael the archangel). The “great captain,” the leader of the heavenly hosts, and the warrior helping the children of Israel (in this case the time displaced Federation)? Remember how she was wearing the Angel time travel armour suit? They strategically named her character “Michael” instead of Anna or Charlene, or Eunice, etc. A male name for a female character after an archangel that was also a captain and a “savior “.
It's about a subtle as a punch in the mouth
They cannot create only corrupt
When a Vulcan has tears in her eyes and Kirk is ready to break down into tears barely holding it back at Spock's funeral that shows more emotions and brings out more emotion from fans than all the crying in Discovery put together. Including all future series.
Well said.
She's half Vulcan half Romulan. Pity they ironed out her emotional side in the next film.
@@JohnnyZenith OH yes I didn't remember off the top of my head. Great recall. Too bad they replaced Kirsty Alley.
@@LotarL31 Yeah I agree.
@@JohnnyZenith I read the book Wrath of Khan way back. You thought being half-human was bad for Spock, for Saavik when she feels her Romulan side getting the better of her, she goes somewhere quiet to throw furniture across the room.
Oh god the cursing is so cringe. It feels like a group of school kids thinking they're cool because they can swear without mommy hearing.
So true like why in the hell are they swearing in Star Trek?? It sounds just like that. Teenagers cursing in parties since their parents are away. i guess it makes sense, they are from the past and probably curse allot. At least they dont do that in Picard.... oh wait
Honestly, when I saw it I physically winced
A show without that wouldn’t be hip with the kids with the 5 second attention spans.
Bruh. That was exactly what I was thinking.
It's the snarky 'kidgrin' they display that causes that.
"Don't judge a book by it's cover" almost made my digestive tract escape my body through my mouth.
Star Trek: Enterprise was cancelled after 4 seasons even after a massive fan campaign raised over a $Million bucks to keep it on the air. Star Trek: Discovery keeps getting renewed for another season even after fans are overwhelmingly saying they hate the series. What's wrong with this picture?
Do the producers know that their diverse characters acting like 10 year olds, swearing, being insubordinate and generally unlikeable is counter productive to their goal?
No, because their goal is to rewrite what is considered "respectable" to be more in line with their own tendencies, because they think it's entirely arbitrary.
@@ingold1470 Well put.
You're trying to find sense where there isn't any.
Not when the producers know that their diverse characters acting like 10 year olds, swearing, being insubordinate and generally unlikeable characters will make some (and not a lot) of money...
What on earth makes you think that their goal is to make sjw-ideology look appealing?
8:20 They have no grasp of the kind of nuance in TNG where the senior officers have a regular poker night, which implies their friendship in service, while conducting it *off-duty* and notably missing the captain. This in turn beautifully sets up the closing scene in All Good Things where Picard finally joins them, setting aside the stigma of the captain standing alone, and embracing the people who loved and supported him even in a potential future where they'd all moved on with their lives. I LOVE the moment where he stops short, looks around the table, and says "I should have done this a long time ago" and Riker's like, "you were always welcome" and that was all that needed to be said. But screw that, we need uniformed service members, trained Starfleet officers, hugging and crying right there on the ship in the middle of a mission.
Thank you for writing this. Fond memory! TNG was just amazing
Ugh... why did you have to remind me how much better TNG is??? Looks like I’ll have to rewatch the series again instead paying for CBS...
Yeah and it was once again one of the things that Q had to teach Picard. That exploring the galaxy and evolving are all well good but sometimes what you really need is that human connection.
The only discovery I've made from this series is that I'm no longer a fan of the franchise.
Even the teenagers of Red Squad had more professionalism, depth and adult qualities, than all 4 seasons of Disovery.
I'll be honest. Had you not described Grouchy Female Engineer as such, I would never have recognised her as female.
Yeah honestly I thought that was a dude.
Same.
She gave me Abby PTSD flashbacks.
That's loathsome Tig Notaro, who landed the job through backstabbing and flagrant sexual harassment. Oh but of course that's all scrubbed by publicists now.
@@mattyboyanderson Is that who it is? Can't be a mistake that you didn't refer to her as a comedian. Her standup material rivals Hannah Gadsby's for being excruciatingly unfunny.
"Female diversity space Jesus" best description "EVER"
It checked all the SJW, GDPRSxyz, diverse , feminist boxes. This is why US, UK cinema making will go bankrupt soon.
Diverse Female Space Jesus sounds like a okay show for 1 season.
Even funnier when you realize that Jesus wasn't white. And that's still not considered "diverse enough" for them. So enter female space Jesus that has to be black, female, better than everyone, with a male name, and is likely asexual (or gay) for maximum diversity points.
Savage Level 1000!
@@mish375 did you... watch the show? She has a whole-ass romance plot with a man. Disliking the show is one thing but you don't need to make stuff up
I love it when there is so much diversity that there is less diversity
I laughed so hard that I was having trouble breathing halfway through this. Made my day.
The original Star Trek was elegant, diverse, optimistic, noble, beautiful , and crewed by beautiful people. This is clumsy, homogenous, dispiriting, low, ugly and crewed by ugly people.
'Homogenous' indeed, since all the 'cool' people are females or black. Apparently dilithium explosions don't harm black people and women not as much as the 'white space patriarchy'.
Supposedly the phrasing of 'Mary Sue' started with a self-insert 16-year-old girl fanfic about Star Trek-- so how appropriate
@@isaacnykamp8083 Yup, it was a story about a female character that was loved by everyone, did everything better than Kirk and Spock and in the end died tragically while saving Kirks and Spocks life. It was called 'A Trekkie's Tale', which was published in 1973. As far as I understand it, it was meant as a parody of bad fanfic.
it's like The Expanse...every chick is butt ass ugly.
It had heart, soul and charm unlike the STD most might want to avoid.
"Looks like someone's had more than their fair share from the replicators" - savage 🤣😭😂
When you think about it though, the Federation would have wiped out obesity early on as the health epidemic that it is.
Love it when he says Go away now
Jesus Christ Drinker, this is the best review i've ever seen. Diversity, diversity, representation.... outstanding. Oh and body positivity!
Or as I call it: body POSivity
The crewmember in the wheelchair is still the highlight for me... not only could they not give him working legs (even though there was a crewmember that had practically had her body rebuilt), they gave him a wheelchair with actual fucking wheels... no hover chair or anything. Not even a bloody motor for the wheels. He had to push himself around the ship using his arms. ...and to make matter worse, there was no wheelchair access ramps on the staircases!
lmao
So you're telling me that by the 24th century we still haven't figured out nerve regeneration or at least a way to improve upon the wheelchair?
🤣🤣
If I remember the scene correctly, the ship just got its ass kicked, so the crewmember was in a wheelchair because of an injury from the battle. So he was in a wheelchair because there still is some recovery time or because a starship's sickbay is not equipped for proper treatment. But you would think they would not let him push the wheelchair by himself in that case.
In his wheelchair at the Starbase 11 medical section, Captain Pike needed Dr. McCoy to push him around.
"Nobody pays attention to you unless you swear ever other word..." Somehow, we're paying attention even less.
The fact this has gone beyond one season is an affront to all life, not just humanity.
I never signed up for CBS streaming, but I made the mistake of purchasing season 1. After 2 1/2 episodes I turned it off and sold it to FYE.
Grouchy female engineer was actually one of the most entertaining characters on the show, TBH. That actually isn't saying a whole lot though.
She's an actual character, unlike Burnham.
Why. Are. You. Both. Watched. This. Cancer???
Thank God for Critical Drinker to take our minds off the US election.
Yes please, I should’ve figured this election was destined to be decided in Court instead of on Tuesday like every other election 🤦🏼♂️
@@chucksenhowzen9740 Why should it be decided in court? Trump lost both Wisconsin and Michigan. That's it. No court needed. But distraction is indeed needed.
@@herrwagnerianer1739 because that's what trump wants apparently. honestly though who knows what's gonna happen...
What election
Now that it looks like Biden is going to win, we will just get more of this garbage to not watch.
I'm not a Star Trek fan, but after seeing this, I weep for all you Trekkies.
We wept for ourselves too... :'(
@Cure4Living Yes i've lost count the amount of franchises i've loved that have been decimated.
Ditto on that...
same, I'm another outsider that found this dismaying (but thankfully funny too, due to Drinker's presentation)
The empathy is appreciated, my non-Trekkie friend. Let's hope for better.
People kept asking me why I didn't like Discovery. This video sums it up perfectly :)
0:25 - That's really all that needs to be said. He just summed um all of Trek from 2008 up until now.
“Looks like someone’s had more than their fair share from the replicators” - Hahaha, savage
The way she looks makes me think of that scene where Homer Simpson eats all the donuts in hell, reproduced with her and a replicator.
She obviously forgot that replicators produce healthy food as well.
She would have been ejected out the airlock on Voyager Season 1
Star Trek died when Alex Kurtzman laid his hands on it.
It can still be saved if it’s separated into a non-canon timeline, that’s a better chance than what Doctor Who and Star Wars has at the moment.
CBS is whos truly to blame, theyre the ones keeping him in charge of everything. And look at all their other shows its all trash.
@@RogueFox7050 The REAL Doctor died. He died when he went into that watch, what came out was the clone of a clone of a clone (etc...) Peter Capaldi was the last Doctor and that's canon.
Star Trek died with Rick Berman and his attempts to overwrite The Only Series.
Star Trek died when Jar Jar Abrams took the helm in 2009.
I've just finished watching episode 4 of The Orville and I'm nearly in tears. I thought it was just a silly parody of Star Trek, but NO, it's genuinely more episodes of Star Trek the way Star Trek is meant to be. MacFarlane genuinely understands ST and wanted to give us what it was always supposed to be, only with a modest dose of comedy added in. Episode 01 was okay, ep 02 was better, by ep 3 I realized I was watching TNG again and it's beautiful. WATCH THIS SHOW.
First season is GREAT! After that it becomes depressing woke preaching. Latest season is Unwatchable. So sad...
As someone who watched TOS in it's first run, I'd like to thank Not-zombie Sasha for repairing all the damage my generation did to ST, The Federation and the Universe in general. I hear Nichelle Nichols and Hattie McDaniel just thanked Sonequa Martin-Green for breaking down all those barriers and making their careers possible.
"Diverse female space jesus" I laughed every time
Yeah!!
I can't even 🤣🤣🤣
I can imagine the board meeting. "What's a beloved franchise we can milk the hell out of while we destroy it?" "Star Wars?" "No, someone is already doing that one." "Star... Trek?" "Brilliant!"
"Now get off my frickin' ass!" "Hahaha!" (cries)
At this point, Ijust hope they never get their hands on Stargate.
@@getcheese oof.
That’s what makes me glad my favourite baby Detroit Become Human is a little known French-made video game. I swear if these guys got their hands on it and made Connor diverse female Jesus I would punch a wall.
I'm afraid LOTR will be next
By the time the dust settles. Star Trek OG will be remembered in to the future, while the rest of the intellectual bile, like this, will be forgotten by the end of the decade.
DUDE!!! You gave me more entertainment in this 10 minutes than I got in *ALL* of season 3 of STD.....thank you!
I'm so glad Gene Roddenberry never lived to see what they did to his creation.
Ditto for Stan Lee.
@@toddsleezer3580 was just thinking the same thing. Had he been around this shit wouldnt been flushed before the public could see it.
This crap is the reason I started watching again from the beginning. The old ones being as Trekkie as Star Trek can be👌😏 this..yeah nah yeah, it's garbage 🤦🤣
Shut up Westley.
SJW imposters
“We have no law to fit your crime.“ Captain Picard The REAL Captain Picard.
A kind of middling episode until that ending. I kind of dropped my jaw as it was both awesome and chilling when he explained what he did.
@@dbsommers1 What happened?
If this show gets more seasons than Enterprise, I'll have to do something about it
Every time you say "diverse female space Jesus" I just piss myself laughing 😂
"Diversity, diversity, diversity, diversity, diversity, RRRReeepresentation, diversity, body positivity, uhhhh, whatever this is." LMAO
In season 4 they rename it from Discovery to Star Trek Diversity lol !
What is the problem? If you don’t like it, go watch literally anything else. I’ll just enjoy seeing myself on screen for the first time ever
@@estherriley6879 It's crap
@@Necromonger69 then don’t watch it?
@@estherriley6879 I did, that's why I know it's garbage along with every other true Star Trek fan. It's an insult to the franchise.
This feels like a show literally made by students at evergreen. When are these people gonna learn that critics dont pay the bills?
Dude, it's in it's 5th season...someone is paying those bills. The show is wildly successful. I may not like it, you may not like it but these fucking evergreen student's creation seems to be nothing but a success. Sad but true #metallica.
It may just be bleeding money but they don't care until the house of cards finally falls, just like the CW.
what do you mean? they pay the critics bills? Xd
They somehow had all the dilithium explode, plunging the galaxy into a non-FTL driven hell where interstellar trade breaks down completely and then Holy Terra..., I mean Earth, falls into warring tribes? Where have I heard this before? I'm surprised that Games Workshop didn't sue for just about blatantly ripping off 40K's backstory.
My favorite part of this season is the end where they discover the source of the cataclysmic event that killed billions of people. An emotionally and mentally unstable mutant alien with dilithuim related superpowers who got real sad when his mommy died. Instead of executing the existential threat to spacefaring civilization on the spot they spent days trying to learn about its feelings so they can help it.
Don't forget that Saru saved the day by singing.
I cant believe that a show like Firefly is gone and this tripe keeps going.
Whedon was grooming Summer Glau so she'd blow him. The second season of Firefly was never going to be anything but rubbish. Stopping at ep13 and planning for the movie was the best thing that could have happened to this franchise.
@@zimriel Whedon was grooming summer Glau to have any proof of that or is that he say.
Really? you had to bring it up
@@sulphur77777 There is a lot of proof that Whedon was kasting kouch kang.
firefly sucked bro
The Orville: "Look at me, I'm the Star Trek now"
Lol
Better than Discovery but describing The Orville as a lukewarm, creatively-bankrupt parody of TNG, peppered with unlikeable characters and garnished with Seth Macfarlane's smug humor, is being generous.
@@romanwolujewicz you nailed it. the smugness was why I stopped watching after 2 episodes. It lacked any charm or redeeming qualities.
@@debstherottie472 Keep going. It gets WAAAAAYY better and really finds its footing in season 2. It is Star Trek now basically.
@@debstherottie472 Season 2 is way better in my opinion.
“Discount Idris Elba”… 😂 dude that made me spit out my Jack!!!!!!
Absolutely right. And I admire your fortitude in getting this far into it. I gave up after about half a season.
"Diversity, diversity, rrrrreppp-resentation, diversity, body-positivity, err whatever that is, diversity!" Awesome line and cracked me up.
Body positivity means fat people are both healthy and beautiful....... at least in somebody's imagination. I am fat, and that is just fooking stupid.
@@armadillotoe I am glad you are happy-but being fat is unhealthy your heart lungs muscles are all working harder than they need to diabetes hypertension smoking also bad lots of other things and people function well
@armadillotoe Hi, I know what body positivity means. If you watch the video he doesn't say, "...body positivity, err whatever that is!" The sequence of characters he is naming in this section moves on from "body-positivity" women, to the women with the weird stuff on her face which references his "....err whatever that is" line. I just wanted to clear that up fella.
The original Star Trek had diversity in abundance - Uhura was a bridge officer, a black woman. The navigator was Asian, and another was Russian, the science and first officer was not even fully human but half Vulcan (and in human history, people ofmixed descent have often faced the worst prejudice of all). And the thing was, you didn't notice it you accepted it as normal because it was normal in the show. Compare that to STD which wears it's diversity on it's sleeves. One was a show that had incidental diversity, the other is a show that is consciously about how diverse it is. You can actually feel them checking the quotas and ticking the boxes. I can't take the crew seriously as the best the Galaxy has to offer and members of a highly disciplined service. When Kirk *almost* broke down after the death of Edith Keeler you really felt it, like wow, this is the Captain. In Woketrek they never stop crying or telling us how they feel, or about their damn "relationships"
Exactly, we had a strong female leader in Janeway and a diverse crew there as well that included aliens as regular cast members. I watched about 2 minutes if discovery and almost puked. DS9 was even more diverse with a black commanding officer, an alien 1st officer and a changeling as security officer. Also had Chief O'Brian in an interracial marriage with a biracial daughter, that relationship started on STNG. Let's not forget Geordi who was a very unique individual. This is all being done because they can't think of something original. Also because they want to be like the 1619 project and try to rewrite history even though this history is fictional.
Totally agree with you... Woke Trek its almost like they are trying to create a goofy woke paroday
At least Star Trek Discovery has appropriate initials! STD is perfect for it!
And what made it work so well was that in the future, it would be natural that people of mixed ethnicities and whatnot could work together just fine. And the writers treated the characters with a lot of respect no matter what race, gender or species they belonged to (except maybe the Ferengi in TNG, but the Ferengi got a magnificent redemption arc in DS9). For example, Benjamin Sisko was black and he was arguably one of the best characters in the show. He was intelligent, physically strong and had a species of bodiless aliens on his side, but the show didn't take away anything from the other characters to make Sisko look good. In fact, they made them just as awesome. Contrast this to Discovery where white men are a minority and aren't treated with nearly as much respect because the diverse female protagonist has to be able to easily beat every single one of them. Because politics.
@@crowbar_the_rogue yep diversity was the backdrop while the writers focused on a story … while in STD the writers focus on diversity and the story is the backdrop!
The only place I can get an honest and accurate review of a show or a film
Whenever I watched Discovery, I missed TNG and Voyager so much.
Don't miss DS9? To much Diversity for you?
@@Qugie that certainly is one of the takes of all time.
As a massive nerd, I want to point out just how stupid the idea that "the federation ran out of dilithium and collapsed" really is. Firstly, Dilithium is exactly what it sounds like, two Lithium atoms in a molecule. How the hell could the federation run out of Lithium? Countless planets, and not any lithium on any of them? Secondly, they use anti-matter for fuel on their starships, and presumably most of their structures. Now, the thing with Anti-matter, is that when it meets regular old matter, they annihilate. In scientific terms this means both turn into energy. There is nothing specific about Dilithium that enables this process, you can do it with hypothetically any matter you well pleased. Now even if I were to buy the idea that somehow there's no lithium in the entire federation, you can't tell me there isn't plentiful amounts of dirt, or asteroids that aren't specifically necessary. Thirdly, doesn't the federation have allies? The Klingon Empire for one, and over time perhaps the Romulans? Could even make a case for the dominion after enough time considering how the dominion war ended. The federation has always had cordial relations with the Ferengi alliance. Even if the Romulans aren't allies, how long until the federation can steal and reverse-engineer their powersource of micro-singularities? Or does that depend on lithium too? Couldn't any of the other allies have helped the federation out on this front?
@Rusty Hussler well said
Someone get this guy a godsdamn medal freaking nailed it
ummm.... because plot monster needs to be fed?
I just want to scream NERD at you like Ogre from Revenge of the Nerds.. but out of love :) I always love how the real creators and visionaries for Star Trek at least tried to put some science in their science fiction. There was some sort of logic behind it, and not just convenience because we need to move the story along.
You spent more time writing this comment, than they writing plot.
Don't forget the part after the reunion where they talk for 10 minutes about nothing other than how they never lost hope that they'd see space jesus again and the long nights they spent contemplating their crash landing in the future during the whole maximum of 12 hours they were apart from space jesus. It's so deep because it's so relatable! Whenever I go for groceries, deep in my heart I too keep the hope alive that I'll see my house again, no matter how many tens of minutes I may wander from it!
TENS OF MINUTES!? You... You brave bastard.
*Tears* Tears running down my face in what you had to say.
Hands down, funniest comment!
Is that wat they were blathering about? Once they started I kept skipping forward until they stfu.
Did they kiss her feet, sing Alleluia, and put their hand in her side after she got back? I didn't see it that episode. Ain't gonna.
I blame JJ Abrhams for actionizing Star Trek. Those movies were huge commercial successes and many people’s entry point for the franchise. As a result, everything that follows 😮now needs to be presented in the same vein.
Abrams should be prohibited by law from getting within 500 yards of a motion picture camera. Yuk. Ruined more films than a Warner Brothers fire.
Drinker Dude you are just awesome.. Your sarcasm and articulation is unmatched.
Hollywood's idea of diversity is African American, female and asian. Native American, Scandinavian, Persian, Siberian, Mongolian, south east asian, Indian, Arab, Polynesian & etc basically don't exist. When was the last time you saw a non-American Star Trek main character? If Gene Roddenberry was alive he'd make one of the main Characters Iranian like he casted Chekhov in the middle of the cold war.
This is actually brilliant and eye opening, they talk about diversity all the time yet they do not know what it actually means
@@ThePhysics1234 Fun-Fact: If we wanna be honestly diverse, then the Fact that each person with autism is different, means to represent Autism, Star Trek Discovery needs a Million Autistic Characters! Lol. Or we expand the defintion een further: Seeing as how each human is different, how about we just have BILLIONS of People of Colour!! C'mon, Sci-Fi especially should be able to pull this off: Just show a Picture of EARTH, the whole thing, at the start of the Episode. Haha. Ok, ok, now jokes aside and serious for a moment: The real funny thing is, these people dont know what Diversity is, so they fail at it. IF you genuinly dont care, the Representation will HAPPEN BY ITSELF. The Effort to be not-biased is already wrong in itself, in a sense. Get what i mean?
@@slevinchannel7589 "IF you genuinly dont care, the Representation will HAPPEN BY ITSELF. " Yeah i do... interesting though
Erm...Simon Pegg as Scotty.
Chikotay from star trek voyager is native American Dr Bashir from DS9 is north african
I love how each season Tilly is always a fair bit fatter, at this rate she'll be the size of a shuttlecraft by season 4!
She’ll have her own gravitational pull by Season 5...
"I canna reach the button, Cap'n" - Scotty parody on The Simpsons .....
mb2000 By season six she’ll be exiled from the Federation to ensure she doesn’t alter the tides of a planet or make the Discovery implode.
Omg im dying mate - shuttlecraft. lol
Except that Tilly will probably have enough plot armor to actually survive... anything, really.
I've caught myself laughing to tears at a few of this dudes videos, but I think after this one it might be my new favorite KZhead channel.
I'm surprised this video was not censored or thrown off completely. I love it and find it hilarious, but I'm surprised a ton of people didn't complain. Thanks for reviewing it, it makes me glad I did not watch it.
The show is a paradox. An organization this emotional and introspective would never build spaceships in the first place.
I would love to enter the ship with Klingons and kill every person.
@@dermagnus8482 Is there a place left in your boarding ship? I have a two-handed axe!
@@blackknight478 Welcome on board. Today is a good day to die.
They’d never get in the military in the first place
Right? Even that one ship in DS9 piloted entirely by cadets (who REALLY needed an adult) was more disciplined than these guys.
I know you may never see this as the comment section gets filled up quickly right after a video release, but I just wanted to say thank you Drinker, for all that you've done with this channel. I feel like you've been a mentor to so many people, both content creators and writers such as myself. It's refeshing to know that you live what you preach, writing interesting complex characters in tight well-paced stories instead of being a hypocrite like so many others. I enjoy the 3-D antagonists and the rich diversity in your stories from places to people. It comes across as natural. Your books proove what was done well 30 years ago is still possible today. We need this reminder especially now. I really enjoy the guests you've had on (last night was especilaly fun), and the logical, well-structured approach in your critique videos which are informative and inspirational to those who seek to improve their craft. The approach of celebrating the successful films whilst taking shots at failures is a welcomed balance that makes your channel all the more enjoyable. I don't know if I'll ever find the sucess you've had with writing, but I know I'm heading in the right direction. Hard work and perserverence to the end, I'd not have it any other way. Permit me to say, I'd love to shake your hand and buy you a drink ,my good man, if the opportunity ever came up. I look forward to your future videos and streams with great anticipation, best of luck with the launch of your 9th novel. I'll be raising a glass to you when my copy arrives at my door. I wish you all the best and once again, thank you. Cheers.
I am in the same boat as you are - aspiring writer. I love how the drinker deconstructs crappy plots and characters. Keep writing eventually we both will get published. BTW this is National Write a Novel Month
@@johntuck77 Thanks for commenting. What's your genre? Oh I know about NaNoWriMo! I'm using it to take a 30-day break from the manuscript I'm querying. Best of luck with your projects.
@@solarsailer4166 Fantasy/Horror mostly. Just remember what Steven King said: To be a good writer you need to do two things. 1) Read a lot 2) Write a lot. Keep practicing the craft and eventually, something will come of it.
@@johntuck77 Same. I'm doing a horror story in my fantasy universe this month. One of the toughest challenges I've found is seeking good critique partners. I really enjoyed reading Stephen King's Memoir. 'Write a thousand words a day and in three years you will be a writer.' - Ray Bradbury
I've watched this video like 10 times. The perfect video! I love it, it's hilarious!
Wait, from a writer perspective, how in the hell are you gonna justify a person falling from orbit in an unmanned spaceship and crash landing without dying or being completely incapacitated??
As Screen Rant says, plot armor. There are no writers with tech knowledge these days, just writers with the education of a 3 year old.
She's a female space Jesus that's supposed to survive....LOL.
The writing? They dont worry about silly things like plausibility or basic science. Look at the ridiculousness of their whole parallel universe story line. All these people from the same star ship end up together on the same star ship in a radically different universe. And they all have completely different personalities now?
She's a strong, empowered Black Woman. She can survive anything!
"Diverse Female Space Jesus" - The Critical Drinker
Discount Idris Elba... Way better
@@scottttym so true!!
@@scottttym I concur. Laughed out loud at that one.
Thats exactly what i was thinking. Saving the galaxy. And this latest episode, the ships crew ptsd was such a waste of time. I keep watching tho. But im getting close to bailing. I can see the other star treks on netflix w/o ads.
@@georgeperkins4171 I agree the whole ptsd was a waste ...and michael saves the day ...again! it's getting to be boring!!!
Fun fact: not every warp reactor runs on dilithium Romulans use mini black holes, and fairly sure they don't need dilithium
Yeah, but why are you acting like the writers did even basic research?
Kurtzman is too dumb to know that. Also the idea that one energy source runs out and everyone just gives up is laughable. If we ran out of oil, we would just regress back to wood in this dummy's mind...
That would be a fun thing to explore in an universe where the gimmick are writers of Star Trek who actually cared about what they write. But alas, this is the other universe. Our gimmick is vanishing socks.
@@Nueamien "but looking for new resources is hard man!"
Burnt ham farted on the way to the future and the stench made all the dilithium suicidally explosive. Just you wait, it's going to be her fault again.
OMG you nailed this on soooo many levels.
Can’t wait to see the video for season four. Even the damn ship has feelings now
This show is like Picard, I haven't watched any of those and somehow I feel good about myself.
The Pilot for Picard showed promise then it degraded into the shower of shit that is discovery. Even though they said "Picard" will be nothing like "Discovery". Suckers!
That show made me feel more and more gross with each episode.
Fun-Fact: If we wanna be honestly diverse, then the Fact that each person with autism is different, means to represent Autism, Star Trek Discovery needs a Million Autistic Characters! Lol. Or we expand the defintion een further: Seeing as how each human is different, how about we just have BILLIONS of People of Colour!! C'mon, Sci-Fi especially should be able to pull this off: Just show a Picture of EARTH, the whole thing, at the start of the Episode. Haha.
@@slevinchannel7589 it goes to show how stupidly naive the media has become...
I envy your unpolluted mind
As a lifelong Trekkie, I will never tire of listening to you tear this show apart. You and Major Grin are doing a real fan service.
always makes me giggle seeing so called trekies bitch about discovery yet most think TNG was good..... i think i can count the good episodes on my hands
Also Overlord: kzhead.infovideos
@@Cheese_Boi1986 you're more than welcome to that opinion and to defend this show to the last if you wish. apparently some people actually watch it and enjoy it...
HeelVsBabyFace has great reviews of this trash, as well. Give them a watch.
@@Phil_X I'm a life long trekker and i do like it. Not everything about it. But sets are flashy, stories keep moving along. And not adhering too much to Canon means we don't get bored knowing exactly where the plot is headed. Nice effort.
I can't wait to meet his brothers DOOR & TABLE! Lovely.
The way they talk here... at 7:42 - touché, right into the heart, well done, Mr. Drinker, well done, I went right to patreon after this
Kurtzman trek should be destroyed and never spoken of again
Leftist showrunners are sadists. "My audience members are bigots! Therefore I will show them the most unappealing characters possible, in order to expand their minds through making them suffer. It's all in a good cause!"
I'm witnessing a ton of people saying it's very good. Funny that the same people also like SW sequels
They’re bot accounts.
@@theguybehindyou4762 I would like they were... but i'm talking about real people
Krapman is on my list of 'writers' and directors whose work I will never watch. It includes Ruin Johnson, Jar Jar Abra ms, & Dummy Lindelhof. Preachy bastards who haven't a shred of decency or respect when it comes to respecting the IPs they're expanding upon. Instead of providing escapism and fun they remind us of all the crap in our contemporary world. They use the opportunity to tell as story to shove in their own politics. If the last few years have proved anything, it's that people don't want to buy what they're peddling. Get contemporary politics out of our Star Trek and other universes.
Mary Sue: a type of female character who is depicted as unrealistically lacking in flaws or weaknesses. Seems about right.
I think they are broken Mary sues. They are flawed but no one notices and their shitty decisions turn out good in the end just because it's written so
I saw Burnham described as “the most developed character in Star Trek history” on Instagram this morning. That comment got one reply; “oh god”. I agree.
Kinda reminds me of Captain Crunch, whoops i mean Janeway :-P
In a roundabout way, that’s hilarious because the term “mary sue” comes from an old Star Trek fanfiction. In a nutshell, it’s about a perfect crew member named Mary Sue who is loved by everyone, even Spock. Funny how it’s all come full circle. 🤣
@@khfan4life365 also, wasn't that fanfic written as a parody of the large influx of bad star trek fanfictions of the time?
You've nailed it all....love it.....strong work!
So right and SO funny!! Woke up with a bad mood but this made my day, thanks! 👍😂❤
*Watching that clip of Burnam jumping thru space* You do know, writers, that -Trying to hold your breath in space (rather than expel all the air possible) kills you because the pressure differential rips open your lungs -Trying to keep your eyes open usually irreparably damages them because of instantaneous desiccation -You *will* shit yourself because of the pressure differential between the vacuum and your digestive tract ...right?
Diverse Female Space Jesus is far too perfect to worry about any of that.
Don't forget that you basically also get the bends (DCS) pretty quickly, arterial gas embolisms oh what fun.
Not forgetting in that scene female space Jesus talked a computer into releasing her from jail without the captains permission and in the same scene external hull forcefields were shown activating, so Mikey Spock shouldn't have been able to fly across that room, but of course she's space Jesus so she can do miracles.
"The Gift that keeps on Giving" - STD living up to its name.
haha, I didn't even catch that.. STD, now thats funny.. Guess they weren't thinking when they came up with the name did they.
Your satirre is so hilarious - thanks for the laughs!
Its ALL so damn-dark nowadays in Films. Drinker and Others agree with Cody Johnston from 'Some More News' about the Bleakness of current Star Trek and how visibly different the Media-Landscape overall is.
I've lived long enough to watch almost my entire childhood die: Star trek, star wars, terminator, predator, alien, Halloween, exc exc. While 2 of the series from Japan I watched came back with very successful reboots and continuation: Evangelion, and Bleach It's like having Sjw-isms ruin stuff or something.
So the main character is Poochie. "Uh, one: Poochie needs to be louder, angrier and have access to a time machine. Two: Whenever Poochie's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking, "Where's Poochie?"
"I have to go. My planet needs me."
Gotta love SFDebris
OMG, this comment section is so much more entertaining than the show! LOL
OMG Sonequa Martin-Green is Poochie: "One, Poochie needs to be louder, angrier, and have access to a time machine. Two, whenever Poochie's not on screen, all the other characters should be asking 'Where's Poochie?'..." The Simpsons tried to warn us
Or worse, The Simpsons gave them the idea because they missed the point.
THAT is great... Made EVEN BETTER by the introduction of a time machine into the Discovery "plot" thread.
"Diverse female space jesus" sounds like a 90s obscure alternative rock song title. LOL. Great review! Agree completely with you, Drinker.
Sir you are a comedic genius… with keen observational skills!
Star Trek: Discovery...the only thing the audience is DISCOVERING is how much more we enjoyed previous incarnations of Star Trek.
STD is that discovery of HIV antibodies at your checkup.
As much hate as Enterprise got, it was still better then this shit.
So true! I don't know why I force myself to watch this. The episode just aired was particularly awful! Just feelings and generally pathetic all around. I find myself watching a random TNG episode straight after just to remind me why I love star trek!
Its that bad. The writers could force feed themselves a dictionary and then vomit up a better script.
I'm gonna go see if I can enjoy Neelix now.
I remember when Abrams went on the Daily Show to plug Star Trek (2009) and told Jon Stewart that "when [he] watched Star Trek [he] didn't like it, it was too philosophical." and that Kurtzman had literally never seen it before. So I guess what we're getting now isn't at all surprising.
Book s friends, Door and Table. I'm crying - with laughter!