Bach Concerto for 4 Pianos. Multipiano/Tel-Aviv Soloists/Barak Tal

2014 ж. 8 Там.
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Bach Concerto for 4 Pianos in A Minor.
Soloists: Multipiano
Tomer Lev, Berenika Glixman, Daniel Borovitzky, Raviv Leibzirer.
Tel-Aviv Soloists Ensemble.
Conductor: Barak Tal.
Recording: Eshel Stodios - Rafi Eshel and Yaron Aldema.
Video: Harel Productions - Alon Harel

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  • Keep calm fans & love Bach in 2024 because it makes life worth living, delightful performance indeed ❤🎉❤

    @melaniamonicacraciun9900@melaniamonicacraciun99004 ай бұрын
    • "And music too, dear music, that can touch Beyond all else the soul that loves it much. Now heard far off, so far as but to seem As the faint exquisite music of a dream." Thomas Moore

      @danawinsor1380@danawinsor13802 ай бұрын
  • With art we decorate space. With music we decorate time.

    @fraktalfabrik@fraktalfabrik8 ай бұрын
  • This Concerto is the op. 3 No 10 (for 4 violins) by Antonio Vivaldi. The version reproduced here is a transcription made by J. S. Bach for 4 keyboards. It should be presented as Vivaldi - Bach concerto .

    @2000VIOLINO@2000VIOLINO4 ай бұрын
    • La mejor interpretación que he oído de esta obra. Enhorabuena

      @plumetinocheti6552@plumetinocheti6552Ай бұрын
    • Thank you

      @glendawebster4232@glendawebster4232Ай бұрын
    • For me the 2nd movement, as performed here, is one the most magical angelic works in music

      @frankgaertner9021@frankgaertner902113 күн бұрын
    • Completamente de acuerdo

      @plumetinocheti6552@plumetinocheti655210 күн бұрын
  • Bach plus Vivaldi... magnifico

    @Wilhelm5381@Wilhelm5381 Жыл бұрын
  • Это самое лучшее исполнение! Преклоняюсь перед Гением Баха, Гением Вивальди, Гением Пианистов!!!

    @user-yg5qd8lz7q@user-yg5qd8lz7qАй бұрын
  • Arrangement by Johann Sebastian Bach for 4 solo harpsichords (and later for 4 solo pianos) and string orchestra in A minor of this concerto by Antonio Vivaldi originally composed in B minor for 4 solo violins and string orchestra.

    @aimargarcia4716@aimargarcia47169 ай бұрын
    • I would also love to hear this with harpsichords, although piano is my favourite instrument ever.

      @RainbowHera@RainbowHera8 ай бұрын
    • Great

      @christianfischer5915@christianfischer59158 ай бұрын
    • ​@@RainbowHera Fenton version with 4 hapsichords : kzhead.info/sun/iMqtmM2rjZh8p3A/bejne.htmlsi=lkeyfzypqiXgUVOy

      @alexandrezowko2645@alexandrezowko26457 ай бұрын
  • Nothing replaces this type of music.

    @harkhyun1077@harkhyun10779 ай бұрын
  • Best interpretation of this concerto ever.

    @frederickmenu3140@frederickmenu3140 Жыл бұрын
  • All of Bach’s music will be the immortal lullaby of the soul and will quench and moisturize my parched soul

    @shin-i-chikozima@shin-i-chikozima7 ай бұрын
    • This is Vivaldi though, Op.3 Nbr 10 concerto for 4 violins and orchestra.

      @johan555777@johan555777Ай бұрын
    • @@johan555777 Thankyou From A corner of dreamful and beautiful and immeasurable profound Tokyo 🍡🌻🥟🗼🍜🍥🍢🍙🍱🍚🎴🎏🎋⛩️🎎👘🎑🇯🇵 Japanese Rite of Spring begins Tokyo is busling with ch Blossom in full bloom 💮🌸💮🌸💮💮💮👘👘👘👘👘👘👘💮🌸💮💮💮💮💮🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸💮💮

      @shin-i-chikozima@shin-i-chikozimaАй бұрын
  • Bach was very impressed by Vivaldi's enthusiasm for the music. usually Bach's music is very calmful and rational, Vivaldi inspired his great passion

    @isaisa1984@isaisa19849 ай бұрын
  • I am sure that Bach is smiling from the Heavens.

    @zalkaz@zalkaz Жыл бұрын
    • No, he is in awe ; the Heavens know that Bach plagiarized Vivaldi much too heavily : 7th Commandment , do not commit robbery 😢😢😢

      @mariapiazza-od8ib@mariapiazza-od8ib9 ай бұрын
    • Commandment- 8 THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGAINST THY NEIGHBOR. History has, again and again, testified to the purity and originality of BACH music. It is ONLY that blind prejudice that colors your view. He was a gift to humanity. @@mariapiazza-od8ib

      @zalkaz@zalkaz8 ай бұрын
    • @@zalkaz no offense Sir 🌺 I enjoyed BACH Music all my life, Bach is a milestone in my Education. Though out of sheer curiosity, please go search Vivaldi 580 on KZhead, it's so easy, and judge for yourself 🎻🎻🎻🎻

      @mariapiazza-od8ib@mariapiazza-od8ib8 ай бұрын
    • Mi sembra che lei è una persona ottusa. Questa non è musica di Bach ma di VIVALDI. Bach grande copione come il suo contemporaneo Handel

      @leliomessercola716@leliomessercola7166 ай бұрын
    • Il pezzo è stato originariamente composto da Vivaldi per quattro violini. Ci è voluto un genio per adattarlo a quattro pianoforti. In effetti, questa versione è molto più popolare di quella per violino. Vedi i media.@@leliomessercola716

      @zalkaz@zalkaz6 ай бұрын
  • Such amazing talent in one room. Bach himself played this, who were his other pianists, it must have been daunting to say the least. He wrote this for himself, of course. Great work. Great performance. Such gifted musicians. All.

    @st825y4912@st825y4912 Жыл бұрын
    • The manuscript actually came from Vivaldi, & was probably written for Violin: Bach’s employer was very keen on the Italian style, & gave Bach several pieces for him to orchestrate for the instruments available…Bach saw the future, & it was the Piano (hence the masterwork - the 48 preludes & fugues, which allowed any keyboard instrument to be tuned & played with equality) It’s interesting, that for over a century, Vivaldi’s name was expunged from church records (he was an excommunicated priest) & all public works: It was during the great Bach Revival - headed by Mendelssohn -that music scholars began cataloguing Bach’s vast musical output:among the manuscripts were some pieces signed A Vivaldi - thus, the hunt was on for this mysterious - & obviously gifted person: once again, the sheer volume of work was yet to be discovered - even ‘The Four Seasons’ wasn’t performed until the 20th century - quite a while after the invention of elevators… Poor Snr Antonio died in poverty after travelling to Vienna to seek out a patron: Noblemen who were happy to purchase his work during ‘the Grand Tour’, with Venice in its Heyday, now found ‘a Guinea for every piece’ quite beyond their means… Such was the end for many - it’s hard for us to imagine that the ravishing music of Bach et al went ‘out of fashion’… Georg Friedrich Handel did alright - but that’s another story… 🙏🏻💔🙏🏽

      @Cristobels-Green-Boots@Cristobels-Green-Boots Жыл бұрын
    • ANIMAL ... BRUTO.... EN EL BARROCO NO HABIA AUN EL PUANO.... ESTUPIDECES HACEN....

      @MarvinTiradoAguilar-mn5ks@MarvinTiradoAguilar-mn5ks9 ай бұрын
    • ​​​​@@Cristobels-Green-Bootsvery nice of you ; please accept some add-ons 1) Bach was mister nobody during his lifetime , he was the Organist at Weimar 2) Vivaldi was renowned all over Europe and his Music was published by top Netherland printers 3) Bach got a lot of printed Vivaldi's Concerts through his employer Prince Ersnt Saxen and he transcribed/arranged them for other instruments 4) it is well known and documented that Bach on his own 'borrowed' a lot from others Musicians 5) during the so called 'rediscovery' some dishonest biased Musicologists attributed to Bach what were only copies or arrangements not only of Vivaldi's Music but also of other Authors . CONCLUSION : It's time to 'revisit' and 'reconsider' the entire Production of Bach otherwise with the 'ever growing' Musical Education that GREATEST MUSICAL GENIUS will be taunted by an 'ever growing' suspect of plagiarism 😢😢😢

      @mariapiazza-od8ib@mariapiazza-od8ib7 ай бұрын
  • Magnifique interprétation qui emporte le coeur et l'esprit!!

    @96TOSCA@96TOSCA3 ай бұрын
  • I cannot stop listening to this. Especially largetto.

    @denizovecoglu6759@denizovecoglu6759 Жыл бұрын
  • Wow! what a swift, precise performance and such a crisp sound! The pianos almost sounds like harpsicords.

    @dr2549@dr2549 Жыл бұрын
    • Quite frankly, I like Bach's concertos for harpsichord better when played on pianos, they contrast better to the string instruments.

      @klauskarbaumer6302@klauskarbaumer63025 ай бұрын
  • FUN! Did you notice that, as well as manuscript, they were all working with copious hand-written notes? Bravura performance, with everyone having a great time - as well as the audience! 🙏🏻💔🙏🏽

    @Cristobels-Green-Boots@Cristobels-Green-Boots Жыл бұрын
  • Really exciting performance. I've listened to it many times.

    @steveneardley7541@steveneardley75412 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you very much

      @soloists1@soloists1 Жыл бұрын
    • Ditto!

      @peterfoot2550@peterfoot2550 Жыл бұрын
  • This performance is comfortable to the ear and to the mind and to the soul and absolutely amazing 🎎🎏🎋🗼🎑

    @shin-i-chikozima@shin-i-chikozima2 ай бұрын
  • Ich hoffe, dass diese wunderbar Solisten und Musikern weiter gesund und am Leben sind🙏! Gott segne sie und ihr Land🙏!

    @Daniela17097@Daniela170974 ай бұрын
  • Love your performance!!! There is nothing like the Israeli performance. And..bach is still the best

    @judyraich8355@judyraich83552 жыл бұрын
    • The original is by Vivaldi. Bach copied.

      @Christian-uv6gs@Christian-uv6gs Жыл бұрын
  • Божественно! ❤❤❤❤

    @user-yg5qd8lz7q@user-yg5qd8lz7q2 ай бұрын
  • מדהים

    @evgeniageysman6950@evgeniageysman69509 ай бұрын
  • I always thought the piano interpretation would be muddy, but this one sparkles. Best piano one so far

    @lamheison2894@lamheison2894 Жыл бұрын
    • "Muddy"......How about your interpretation ?

      @jameskirk2579@jameskirk2579 Жыл бұрын
    • I don't really know if it's (the other versions I heard) the recording mic making the sound muddy. But as I said, this version sparkles, the best interpretation I discovered so far.

      @lamheison2894@lamheison2894 Жыл бұрын
  • This is SOOOO amazing and wonderful thank you all so much for your great focus and effort. Truly breathtaking

    @brandonmacey964@brandonmacey964 Жыл бұрын
  • Какая чуда, какая прелесть! Надо же, 4 фоно, и такой унисон! Такая слаженность! Браво! А, что ещё можно пролепетать перед гением Баха!!!!!! И этими исполнителями.❤❤❤

    @user-vj5kx6gn7m@user-vj5kx6gn7m8 ай бұрын
    • It is Bach's transcription of Vivaldi's concerto RV580 for 4 violins.. so the music is mostly Vivaldi's.

      @juliak8093@juliak80937 ай бұрын
    • Bach is very religious. Look at his oratories.

      @robertorosario4052@robertorosario40527 ай бұрын
  • Прекрасное исполнение, прекрасная аранжировка, прекрасно всё! Спасибо!!!

    @eugens.8342@eugens.83429 ай бұрын
  • Beautiful and exciting.

    @piotrszablewski8589@piotrszablewski8589Ай бұрын
  • Hermoso! Maravillosa ejecución! Bravooo!

    @Napo5687@Napo568710 ай бұрын
  • Какое замечательное исполнение!!! Истинное наслаждение слушать вас, господа музыканты! ❤❤❤

    @natalienova6143@natalienova61439 ай бұрын
  • Prachtig begin van 2024!

    @lydiabarenholz1516@lydiabarenholz15164 ай бұрын
  • Io essere molta patienza possa un umpregno per tutto Marie Louise a sua marito ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

    @gad9707@gad97074 ай бұрын
  • Une magnifique interprétation dynamique, percutante, parfaitement maitrisée. Bravo à tous les quatre !!!

    @renaudpontier@renaudpontier Жыл бұрын
  • Fantastic.

    @babsclark8572@babsclark8572 Жыл бұрын
  • Special thanks to the sound quality people. Plus the mind blowing performance.

    @alexeykulikov2739@alexeykulikov27392 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you

      @soloists1@soloists1 Жыл бұрын
  • A breath of fresh air….thank you.

    @Eric-jo8uh@Eric-jo8uh5 ай бұрын
  • This Wonderful performance embodies the musical and religious aesthetics of Bach 🎑

    @shin-i-chikozima@shin-i-chikozima7 ай бұрын
  • Molta grazie per il chiocolata nobpossa a la prima lui volia donato confianzia dallio ushita Della macchina ❤❤❤❤❤

    @gad9707@gad97074 ай бұрын
  • Bravo !

    @robertyoung9403@robertyoung9403 Жыл бұрын
  • MAGNIFIQUE❣️

    @Moniqueandreereuse@MoniqueandreereuseАй бұрын
  • Bach is the god of music

    @etiennenobel5028@etiennenobel50289 ай бұрын
  • Excellent ! Bach is a genius !

    @paulmonard4857@paulmonard48573 ай бұрын
  • wonderful! thanks for that!

    @jonathanelboim7338@jonathanelboim73383 ай бұрын
  • No alcanzan los adjetivos para explicar las sensaciones que produce este concierto: de profundidad oceánica

    @aaronjorgefridman5662@aaronjorgefridman5662 Жыл бұрын
  • How grand it must be to master a piano like these four. Roger Camp

    @rogercamp3702@rogercamp3702 Жыл бұрын
  • If Bach is the air we breathe, Vivaldi is the oxygen.

    @longfulan@longfulan Жыл бұрын
    • "If Bach is the air we breathe, Vivaldi is the oxygen." Thank you what a wonderful way of expressing the difference :)

      @beachbum4691@beachbum469110 ай бұрын
    • ​@@beachbum46911¹

      @phillipchung8179@phillipchung817910 ай бұрын
    • ​@@beachbum4691it's a fair educated way to inform that Bach transcribed from Vivaldi 580 Concert 😮😮😮

      @mariapiazza-od8ib@mariapiazza-od8ib9 ай бұрын
    • I have heard almost everything but there is an almost unknown piece for harpsichord by J.S Bach that sounds almost superhuman or God-like. I still think A. Vivaldi is very stimulating!

      @michaelg9344@michaelg93449 ай бұрын
    • Very well👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

      @MrRjcosta@MrRjcosta6 ай бұрын
  • Nobvolia perdare lui Io aspetti il questa momenta molta tempo prima❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

    @gad9707@gad97074 ай бұрын
  • It would help to have 4 ears to fully appreciate this. Thanks for sharing this on KZhead.

    @alwaysuseless@alwaysuseless5 ай бұрын
  • BRAVO !

    @alaskajdw@alaskajdw8 ай бұрын
  • Bravo!!!!!

    @liudasokolova8273@liudasokolova82738 ай бұрын
  • You all enhance our souls! Superb, magnificent..!!!

    @amadosegundomansilladelval9026@amadosegundomansilladelval90269 ай бұрын
  • Sublime💫

    @mirandaemery8566@mirandaemery85664 ай бұрын
  • Brilliant! The playing is brilliant! Then of course, it's Baroque rock. Bach was the rock star in his day.

    @ime7918@ime79189 ай бұрын
    • Sorry, the Rock Star here is indeed Vivaldi. This is in fact VIVALDI 580 Concert. Please, go listen the Original ❤

      @mariapiazza-od8ib@mariapiazza-od8ib9 ай бұрын
    • @@mariapiazza-od8ib Bach was also a rock star! and he improved Vivaldi's original. I listened to 580 many times and I like Bach's transcription more.

      @juliak8093@juliak80937 ай бұрын
    • @@juliak8093 thanks 😇😇 I thought the same two years ago 🤩🤩 Please go search and listen Vivaldi 580 by Giardino Armonico , or .. there's another performance with some 17 millions views . Have a good day .

      @mariapiazza-od8ib@mariapiazza-od8ib7 ай бұрын
    • ​@@juliak8093 Vivaldi fue el original precursor del género. escucha la versión de la follia de Vivaldi. Eso de hecho son los antecedentes no solo del rock sino del metal.. 🤟viva Vivaldi 🤟🤟🤟

      @liliaesperanza4436@liliaesperanza44367 ай бұрын
  • Брависсимо!!!!

    @user-vn5gr6fo4q@user-vn5gr6fo4q Жыл бұрын
  • Que c'est beau ! Cet enregistrement déjà ancien garde toute sa valeuret sa fraîcheur ! C'est un trésor ! Bravo !

    @guyeliat-eliat6354@guyeliat-eliat63549 ай бұрын
  • After many years, I heard Vivaldi's 4 violins Concerto in B minor and realized it was first written for violin. Lol...now I can die in peace.

    @Rick-tq1ho@Rick-tq1ho8 ай бұрын
  • Thank you so much 🎹🎹🎹🎹🎼🎼🎼🎼

    @roxanavasilakis9435@roxanavasilakis94359 ай бұрын
  • Amazing

    @litoboy5@litoboy59 ай бұрын
  • what a beautiful performace, One can't help but fall in love with this piece and the way it is played particularly by such musical pianists

    @finleyjones6671@finleyjones66716 жыл бұрын
  • Can it be any better? Wow! My favorite.

    @hakan1952@hakan1952 Жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely wonderful! Truly fantastic! Thank you so much for uploading. Bach has always been one of my all time favourites and the playing on this is outstanding!

    @daisies53@daisies532 ай бұрын
  • Maravilloso.

    @gabrielnavarrodelage@gabrielnavarrodelage9 ай бұрын
  • So toll habe ich es noch nie gehört- und gesehen. Danke

    @user-sn2tp4zb2c@user-sn2tp4zb2c9 ай бұрын
  • The most beautiful single piece of music in the world! Thanks.

    @Carfree-Cities@Carfree-Cities8 ай бұрын
    • You make me BLUSH ! .. says Vivaldi . Indeed this is ALL VIVALDI Music , nobody's else . Many compliments to Bach for the Genial Transcription 😮😮😮

      @mariapiazza-od8ib@mariapiazza-od8ib8 ай бұрын
    • Agreed, although Bach's d minor 2 violin concerto gives stiff competition

      @brianzayman2228@brianzayman2228Ай бұрын
  • Bravissimo!!! 👏👏👏

    @bettinabeckroge2808@bettinabeckroge2808 Жыл бұрын
  • Superb!!

    @babsclark8572@babsclark8572 Жыл бұрын
  • Damn! They sound so cool! 🔥🔥

    @sfmmmo7599@sfmmmo75993 ай бұрын
    • Понимаю: это высший Восторг! Согласна.

      @user-yg5qd8lz7q@user-yg5qd8lz7q3 ай бұрын
  • Félicitations les plus vives a tout les solistes et tout l orchestre.cette interprétation st extraordinaire et comme Bach est mon compositeur préféré , ce fut un moment magique.(je suis pianiste diplômée mais c est vers Bach que toujours je reviens .)❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

    @blondellemarie-jeanne3845@blondellemarie-jeanne38458 ай бұрын
  • Flutuando até a nascente do universo.....

    @lilianap2755@lilianap27559 ай бұрын
  • Wonderful

    @luciocsordas@luciocsordasАй бұрын
  • Ніколи не чув про такий його твір ! Музика чудова !

    @petrozemtsov1165@petrozemtsov11658 ай бұрын
    • Devi sapere che la musica non è di Bach ma di VIVALDI

      @leliomessercola716@leliomessercola7166 ай бұрын
  • ❤❤❤Браво!!!

    @user-fk3hu8vm8y@user-fk3hu8vm8y4 ай бұрын
  • Grandioso ! Commovente! Perfetto! Grazie❤

    @giannamagnolfi7895@giannamagnolfi78959 ай бұрын
  • Me encanta..

    @isabelruiz6446@isabelruiz64469 ай бұрын
  • That was absolutely lovely, the melody lines of the pianos are shared.

    @mrsenstitz@mrsenstitz Жыл бұрын
  • This is wonderful Music and GREAT Musicians ! Should be fair and educated to inform that this is VIVALDI Concert 580 transcribed by Bach 😮😮😮

    @mariapiazza-od8ib@mariapiazza-od8ib9 ай бұрын
  • Wunderfull. Thank you!

    @adrianaschoonbee3645@adrianaschoonbee36456 ай бұрын
  • Assour leafsiq iech li kavod baboker cen 🧡🧡🧡

    @gad9707@gad9707 Жыл бұрын
  • Восхитительно!!! Браво!!! Спа сибо!!

    @user-yg5qd8lz7q@user-yg5qd8lz7q3 ай бұрын
  • Best interpretation

    @MrGeneration1973@MrGeneration1973 Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you very much

      @soloists1@soloists1 Жыл бұрын
    • @@soloists1 Please does anyone know where the public can get a CD of this incredible recording? Please advise if you do, I've spent hours trying to track one down. Very very best wishes :(

      @beachbum4691@beachbum4691 Жыл бұрын
  • I’ve heard and compared many string and keyboard versions and in my opinion this one is for me the very best version of Vivaldi’s masterpiece. By now i’ve listened to it over 100 times. It is wonderful for doing morning stretches, pushups, and dancing with 10 pound weights in each hand when one is 85 years old. Try it, you won’t be able to keep yourself still. It is, literally, very moving music!

    @frankgaertner9021@frankgaertner902118 күн бұрын
  • amazing view

    @helmutdiez4306@helmutdiez4306 Жыл бұрын
  • Woooooooooooow

    @Noa.Shakti@Noa.Shakti7 ай бұрын
  • Tu n'as pas le droit de foutre le camp sans moi j'ai besoin de toi pr la vie 🌻💚💙

    @gad9707@gad9707 Жыл бұрын
  • It's totally unbelievable ❤❤❤. Bravo 👍 👏

    @lorenzley1324@lorenzley13245 ай бұрын
  • I love it!!!!!!

    @bath-seba8521@bath-seba85217 ай бұрын
  • Bach admiró la obra de Vivaldi en vida, al punto de transcribir algunos de sus conciertos. Dato curioso ambos compositores fallecieron en la misma fecha 28 de Julio, pero en años diferentes 1741 Vivaldi y 1750 Bach.

    @miquelegiorgio@miquelegiorgio4 ай бұрын
  • Magnifique!

    @brianregan5053@brianregan50536 ай бұрын
  • Beautiful!!!

    @arminedarbinyan535@arminedarbinyan53511 ай бұрын
  • תודה רבה Спасибо Баху, спасибо исполнителям

    @antonmovsin3294@antonmovsin32948 ай бұрын
    • No Grazie a Vivaldi Bach grande copiatore

      @leliomessercola716@leliomessercola7166 ай бұрын
    • @@leliomessercola716 true, but it’s a great piece for 2nd mvmt trills. And that is how Bach introduced Germans to Italian style 😅

      @rozalinapiano@rozalinapianoАй бұрын
  • Brilliant! ❤❤❤

    @larysasynelanikoba8809@larysasynelanikoba88099 ай бұрын
  • Magnificent!

    @paulchapman112@paulchapman1129 ай бұрын
  • Tremendous!

    @ikmarchini@ikmarchini9 ай бұрын
  • Moutar li nimasli lâchons ara ain ara ❤️❤️💗

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  • Bravo !! Brilliante!

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  • Hermoso, magia pura.

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  • Rotsa Tabath thé lo matsich 💗💗💗

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  • Merci 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

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  • Sublime

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    • Certo sublime Vivaldi

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  • Неперевершено! Дякую ❤

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  • Bravisssssssssimi!

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