While the iPad dominates the tablet space today, Android and even (kinda) Windows tablets had much more of a presence, let's take a look at some 7 inch tablets from 2013 and see how they compare to one another. The iPad Mini 2, the Samsung Galaxy Tab 3, and the HP Stream 7.
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I used to remember seeing tons of Android tablets back in 2013 everytime I go to malls. Now all I see is iPad or stuff like Huawei MatePad
Huawei uses reskined android. Lol
@@Vista0279*harmonyOS
@@MJsTechWorldbased off android
@@MJsTechWorldyes that is android, mjs tech channel.
@@Vista0279 it's harmony OS Huawei made it look like android Bcos people using huawei are mostly coming from Android so changing everything at once will just make it flop(like Microsoft phones) Harmony OS is a lot smoother than android Huawei said with time they are going to be changing things little by little.
Had a Nexus 7 2013 back then and can confirm,the stock google android experience was so much better than the Galaxy devices at the time.
Oh yeah! The Nexus 7 how could I forget?
As did I, and agree 100%! They haven't been able to match that in the decade since then. I now use an iPad Mini, as all small Android tablets are shit (sadly).
Same tablet I had, worked like a charm. Still have two of them because I broke the first one lol
@@djross95not true
Had a nexus 7 too. Great experience with it then tried to go to a Samsung tablet and immediately regretted it. Been with my iPad Pro 10.5 ever since.
I think it'd be nicer if the HP tablet was running on Windows 8 which it originally came with. Metro UI was so good on tablets, it's a shame it was forced on desktop users and got a bad flack as a result.
Yeah Windows 8 is really good on tablets until you get to the desktop where it all falls apart, the app ecosystem was never good enough to keep people using the metro ui. Windows 11 has actually got some pretty good tablet gestures and optimisations, much better than Windows 10 on that regard
10 still has a metro UI start style if you activate it in the settings
@@laur6405It also has the tablet mode with it
@@laur6405 Yeah but it's slower overall on these cheap tablets vs 8.1
@@SirFaceFone The first versions of 10 up till 2018 version can run fine on it. It's version 2019 and up that started to run bad on older hardware
I remember my stepfather getting a Samsung Galaxy Tab 3 for free from our carrier (tho he did not opt for a data plan for it which i'm sure was the underhanded reason they gave him a free tablet). He let me use it for my readings in a class I took in college, and I was literally the only one there using an Android tablet instead of an iPad, made me feel a bit like a YA Dystopia protagonist lol
Android FTW
i remember having that samsung tablet in middle school. i carried it everywhere in 2014-2015 and probably used it much more than i did my phone. i loved drawing on it and trying to animate. i've got pictures of me carrying it around on family trips because it's what i used to listen to music on to block out noise.
Same here but with iPad back in 2013. Digital painting, gaming ( flash with puffin), watching videos and listening to music on it is extremely nostalgic
@@SilveImp omg i definitely used puffin when i wanted to play flash games (mainly animal jam) before school without starting up the computer in the morning!
@@dangercrue yes! I remember waking up at nights just to be able to play aj since puffin would limit your time usage.
I had One too. I still have it it's nostalgic
I used a Galaxy Tab 3 Lite for a good amount of Years after I got it as a reward for getting good grades in 1st grade. I only recently upgraded from my iPad Air 2 to an M2 12.9” iPad Pro, crazy how far the tech in these tablets has come.
Wow that's a huge upgrade, respect. 😮
16:30 Newer Windows uses Fast Boot by default, which at shutdown moves system apps from RAM to the drive (something similar to hibernation mode). At boot the apps don’t have to go through the long loading process. It just takes the previous state from the drive back to RAM, leading to faster boot time. A side effect of this is the Uptime counter not reseting after a shutdown.
Will fast boot consume battery during shutdown?
@@aqiluiiIt should consume the same amount as a normal shutdown. Also the shutdown itself is faster because it doesn’t have to close all apps. So it may even consume less than a normal shutdown
I was against fastboot by principle but when I was upgrading my family's identical 2012 i5 Toshibas to Windows 11 (i know lol) I realized that a properly maintained Windows installation (which I keep that way by virtue of them not having admin passwords) no longer demands being rebooted from time to time, and Windows Update takes care of that anyway. So I just set them to "suspend" by default. But my dad insists on shutting down the pc so I turned on fastboot and I have to admit it's a great feature. I even got 11 working okayish on his spinning hard disk before I stuck ssds and 8GB ram in all of them. They work great, better than some new cheapo celerons. Lack of vp9 video acceleration is the main problem but I took care of that with the h264ify browser extension. Ok this has gone way off topic but anyway, if you're gonna have to be your family's IT guy, buy them identical upgradeable PCs or pre-2016 2nd hand Macs.
@@aqiluii its basically semi-hibernate so nope.
Almost like dankpods
iPad is still the standard, but for those of us who cannot afford it, Android tablets in India have started becoming good for the last 2 or so years because the Chinese are now making their own and they're actually good enough for reading, watching, even some office work and Roblox! I'm watching this on the first generation Realme Pad, it's working fine for me and Xiaomi's tablets which came out just a year later are leagues better!
Same with poland tbh, my country.
W video, keep up the great work, I discovered your channel from the windows phone one, and haven't been dissappointed with all your videos!
I came here from that one too!
super underrated content. This is my first video that I watched on your channel. I am a pixel 7 user myself and I really enjoyed watching you video.
If you upgraded the windows tablet, you should install custom ROM's to Tab 3 to make it even.
It's better for the WinTablet to use Windows Phone Iso's, they are better suited IMO
Windows Phone support is completely dead. Virtually no apps for it. Full blown desktop Windows is the way to go if your device has the power to run it. @@gabrielv.4358
I still have my original HP Stream 7 from 2014, it was a decent tablet and for £100 it was good value imo
“Mom I want Dankpod!” “But darling, we already have Dankpod at home… with a strange accent, but anyway.”
A pretty cool video as always. Keep it up 👍🏻
Ah, the old days of 7” tablets. I got a Lenovo Tab2 and its a nice time capsule :)
I still use mine for pdf files; large files with images take 10+ seconds to load and scrolling to a new page you have to wait a second for the page to load, then for the resolution to increase. No dramas though, that small wait doesn't really affect the experience much.
Trash I have iPad mini 4 runs better
this channel is sooo underrated your videos are super nice!
Man I just found your Channel yesterday and I gotta say I am a big fan of your Editing and Video Style
THE SMASNUG
smasnug 😭
Smasung
Regarding the Win tablet, the horrible performance is not the CPU's fault. It was actually pretty decent for the time, especially for ultra-cheap devices. But it was any good only if paired with 2 gigs of ram and semi-decent storage, which, let me tell you, DOES ACTUAL MIRACLES. I had the Archos 80 Copper (if not mistaken) for school things back then, and it was one of the few with actually decent flash storage instead of bottom-of-the-barrel eMMC. Ran Win8.1 pretty great. Was more than enough for me to read text books and play older games (up to roughly 2007) with a Bluetooth keyboard. Honestly, even Atom Z270-based Sony Vaio P from my collection is borderline usable with Win10 on it. Just because it has fast enough storage for the pagefile to operate (that being an mSATA SSD) People gave poor little Atoms too much crap simply not realizing they're storage-dependent. The Cherry Trail ones are pretty horrible though, at least on the low end. Good Atoms have ended with Bay Trail, i.e. the Z3735G. And Intel's ultra low power lineup hasn't been decent ever since. I guess, Pentiums N4050 and N5000 are true successors, but they haven't god the unrealized capabilities of their ancestor. And Core m series is too high end and too power-hungry to be a trues successor.
Yeah the fact that it's got only 1gb of ram, eMMC storage, and likely terrible cooling really didn't let this tablet shine, would like to see if it would be possible to mod this tablet in a way that can let it show its full power
@@frokfrdk doubt it. Probably easier to buy a Thinkpad tablet with Z2720, that had proper storage, will really help it shine. And will probably make a decent ultraportable retro gaming device
I had an Atom laptop with 2gb of ram and you're lucky to watch a KZhead video at 1080p without it skipping frames to the point of being unwatchable. Meanwhile my $50 Android phone plays video fine at 1080p and can have more than 3 windows open without crashing.
@@EmergencyChannelSolo instala H264ify y listo, si es posible, de hecho yo así veo videos en un Celeron N2840 a 1080p sin problemas
@@EmergencyChannel i think the lowest end windows tablet that can still did most of the tasks well is surface go 2
I have a Galaxy Tab S7 and it is awesome although I was briefly considering a surface before I got it back in 2021 but it runs really well, I love the extreme customisation that Samsung offers and I just cant really think of anything bad about it except for the lack of a headphone jack.
I regret buying Tab S6 lite, it costed the same as used surface ☠️
@@TabbyEgg312 Samsung Galaxy S6 Lite was slightly cheaper for some reason compare to the previous generation, I have Galaxy Tab S5e and the screen is Super Amoled larger and thinner with the thickness of 5.5mm it was the thinnest tablet at the time while the newer gen wich is S6 lite has smaller battery and TFT screen, so I think its kinda little downgrade, the performance and software are almost the same
@kucingkeren8042 s5e was super expensive where i live
@@kucingkeren8042 I'm sure the Tab s6 lite and s5e had the same battery capacity, which is 7040mah same with Tab s6 2019
Kinda disappointing a Tab s6 lite 2022 has worse hardware than a Tab s6 (not lite) but the former gets oneui 5...
I think this channel is very underrated. Keep it up man, your time will come I’m sure with that.
The samsung tab 3 was my first ever tablet back then it made me entertained and play games back then. Now its motherboard gave up back in 2017, it now is just a display in the shelf but I wish to try and use it again just to see my old wallpapers and photos.
I tested HP Stream 7 on Windows 8.1, and Minecraft 1.8 ran on it in 50fps.. I've heard that all builds of Windows 10 after 1703 run awfully here, so sticking even with RTM Win10 will be much better option than with Windows 8.1 or 22H2.
Top quality content! Glad I discovered your channel
I remember my samsung galaxy tab 2 7.0 that i bought in 2012. It still run android 4.1.2, and sometimes I bring it out to see how old it is and all my memories with it
I managed to get useable performance with HP Stream 7 running Windows 8.1. Windows 10 is much more resource hungry and even if you turn on the tablet mode, the UX is by my opinion inferior to Win8.1 default.
That 416 day thing is due to fast boot being enabled. Fast boot does not properly shut down your system but it does enough so that it can turn on quicker. Obviously this takes resources and power when off.
Man seeing a tablet that i kind of grew up with was a heartwarmer. Thank you for unlocking a memory.
Which one?
the smasnug one
@@danilostakii grew up with that samsung one, too. so many good memories of using it for music, games, stuff like google +, youtube, drawing, etc 🥲
Using old windows tablet on windows: 😢 Reviving it with Linux: ❤❤❤
Nexus 7 2013 with stock Android 4.4 was neat and solid. Miss those days
I am watching this on a 2022 Samsung tablet, and I must say it's really good.
SOOO GOOD BRO KEEP PUTTING THAT EFFORD IN
The only android tablet i had was the Galaxy Tab A with S pen. I mostly got it for, well the S pen, as it was a cheaper alternative to the ipad and i wanted a device to do art on and i think it served that purpose perfectly fine. The user experience wasn't any different from my S9 though so my conclusion is if you liked the Galaxy S9 phone youd be right at home with the Tab A.
I had an iPad Mini 2 until just a few months ago, still used it periodically, and honestly it still ran okay for most of the things that I do on my new iPad Air M1. Love or hate Apple, their products are totally usable for a *LONG* time, whereas the competition here…is abysmal in 2023.
Same. I also had an iPad mini 2 and used it for school until I got my iPad Air with the M1 chip this March. The Mini still works great.
@@Taticalnoob21 Mine was used for school too. Parents bought it for my 16th birthday, used it daily the same way others would use a phone for the next two and a half years, got an actual phone shortly before graduation. In some ways I miss having an iPad Mini in my pocket at all times, modern phones aren’t a whole lot smaller in terms of actual screen size but it just felt really nice to have a big screen with that aspect ratio always with me
@@sparky6757 exactly I was 9 when I got mine so I took it every where. iPad minis feel different from the big iPhones even tho they are similar in size
True, Apple products are usable for a *LONG* time. The iPhone 6S, which mind you, came out in 2015, it got updates until iOS 15 came out about 2 years ago. You can still use the latest macOS on a 2009 MacBook, albeit with a few tweaks. Heck, with Linux, you can even use a PowerPC Mac from 2005 without many problems. For comparison: Let's take non-Apple products: The oldest Android phone that I think is still maintained is the Google Pixel 4, which came out only 4 years ago. Although, not everything is lost, as you can mod earlier Pixels (or even a Nexus 6) to run later version of Android. You'd have a hard time running Windows 11 on anything older than a 2011 Thinkpad. Even with Linux, you'd only probably get as far as a 2006 ThinkPad.
@@pabblo1 You can still use the latest macOS on a 2009 MacBook, albeit with a few tweaks yes I'm running MacOS Monterey on my 13 inch MacBook pro from 2009 thanks to Open Core
i don't understand how frokfrdk is such a small channel you DESERVE way more subs
who else thought he was gonna take a bite out of the tablets for a taste test (from the thumbnail lol)
I had a galaxy tab 2, and when it launched touchwiz was amazing, then it slow got worse. It used to be tablet like with all of the nav buttons and notifications at the bottom, and one it upgraded to jelly bean it was basically the same as a galaxy s3 without the phone, and some touch buttons instead of the physical ones. It also originally had a much darker theme and then turned into exactly what the tab 3 looked like.
Watching this on my iPad mini 2 :) thank you for this cool video! I will look into the jailbreak tweak you mentioned and I will comment it under here once I found it, if someone else wants to use it too. Also, the 400 days in task manager might be there because of Fast Boot, a windows feature that skips some parts of booting into windows. To fix this, you can either turn it off in the settings or click Restart instead of Shut down.
The phone's photo on HP Stream 7 looked like as if it was taken in 2003💀
The problem with iPad is that the software is proprietary as Apple does not license the operating system to OEMs as Google does with Android and Microsoft with Windows.
And modern iPads have the same anti-repair tactics baked into them as iPhones have... you absolutely would not be able to replace the display on a modern iPad and keep all features fully functional.
I still rock my Samsung tablet from 2016. I'm gonna use it to utmost until it dies or KZhead and Chrome stops its support. If that time comes I can flash some ROM's tho
Keep that thing chugging along at all costs
I’m happy youtube recommended this,also is your weather widget working on yours, I couldn’t get mine to work on my tab 3 or note 3, and android was way better than you might of thought, just not with touchwiz
That boat in lake wallpaper in tab 3, was was was one of my best memories from my school days
i love the system sounds on the galaxy tab 3, when i had one of these i always had the sound on (i never do that with my devices) how i wish i could apply those sounds to my current devices
yayyyy classic TABLET comparisons, woooooo; my childhood is coming back to life!
4:20 (nice) Everybody remembers the bloops
Slide over was like the precursor for multitasking. Remember them bring it to my school and iPad years ago
Eyyyy I had the galaxy tab 3 too! Although it was the 8 inch version with Sim card slot
I recently flashed android 7 on an old Galaxy Tab E that my aunt had lying around that she didn't use anymore. It's not great, slow, not great sound either; BUT it does have an almost 10 inch screen and all I have is a bunch of apps I use for reading, and it works great for that! Flashing new android kinda helped the battery life as well, I get a decent amount of reading time over the day on the huge screen. It works!
Watching this video on an android tablet, the biggest problem on android side seems to be lack of optimised applications, though I wouldn't know, never used anything Apple. But for media consumption, reading ebooks, web browsing and light gaming, they do more than enough.
I remember my brother and mom having the galaxy tab 3, and damn they were slow. I ended up bricking one by trying to flash the stock rom onto it but the battery was failing anyways.
I owned that galaxy tab 3 when I was 13 , received it for Christmas from my grandma. I’m pretty sure I still have it somewhere
4:06 I had a tablet like this, but there was also a speaker on the top front
10 years ago Google came out with the 2013 Google Nexus 7 tablet. I have own and it still works, but is slow and only 16 GB storage. But it has NFC and Google Wallet for tap and pay, but retailers didn't have that in 2013
I love seeing videos like this where we see old tech years later!
3:30 wonder how would it run debian with something like lxqt or xfce, or specific light weight distros aimed netbook tier hardware like puppy linux.
Have you tried tiny windows 10 on your HP ? Because 1 Gig isn't enough for origin os that came with bloatware. Maybe you can see the different performance
That's the perfect video I found now I subscribe your video because i using a ipad mini 2 and i buy them the mini 2 and samsung tab 3 but the tab 3 little broken so i fix them on January 20 this year .
i’m still using IPad mini 2 from 2013, I’M WATCHING THIS VIDEO IN THAT IPAD
I still have that exact same tab 3 was using it only for watching movies the touch stopped working one day and never worked again
I actually have a mini 3. It has iOS 13 and it runs some apps decently well, which is surprising
iOS 13 doesn’t support mini 3
@@Thatcypriomapper oh yeah, i checked lol, thanks for the corrections
@@SubtitleXD no problem
Mini 2 and Mini 3 are practically the exact same just the mini 3 has touch id lol
@@supersmashmaster43 mini 1 and mini 2 is the same but with a better screen iirc
I have a ipad air 1 gen since 2014 till now, it has same spec as ipad mini 2 and it support split for some app like photo and safari in the beginning but there remove it in the up coming ios update 😢
Mye Note 10.1 2012 overheated and died in 2016. :( It does still show some sort of recovery thing and charging if you plug it in and turn it on, but it will never boot. It's a shame, because it was so cozy, and I think I had a lot of pics and vids there that I don't have anywhere else, and it probably is the storage that is broken on it. I'm not sure. I'd love to figure that out, but I don't have time to fiddle with it.
A fun spinoff video would be the "haitch pea" with debloated windows 11, and the "smasnug" on a custom ROM
9:59 Smasnug, now that's a man of culture (yeah I know that from DankPods when he reviewed the Note 7)
I still use the stream tablet lol. its so cool to show off!
Bro I thought you were useing a professional camera
Can you put a tiny Linux on the Windows tablet?
i've fumble reading your (chanel's) name... over all it was a very enjoying (asmr) review hh
Feels like a kinda dankpods esque video
Had Sony tablet Z at that time, perfect tablet, had been using it quite a lot
Not all SΛMSUNG Galaxy Tab 3 series have autofocusing camera. Only the Tab 3 8.0 has with autofocusing (includes tap to focus).
Apple’s os doesn’t look old at all they have supported their product this long is just phenomenal. They used to give long software support even when no one woz Demanding for it
I still use Ipad mini 2 for yt and netflix. My Android 4.4 tab stopped supporting yt back in 2021.
How did you update the iPad Mini 2 to IOS 12? While mine is stuck is IOS 9
If yours is stuck on iOS 9 then it's a 1st gen
i have a ipad like this! its a 32gb one! i recently repleced the battery in it which was a complete nightmare!
0:52 good old days use to have that tablet and play games now I have a iPad Air 5
Wow so great video (-:
I won the iPad mini 2 in a raffle when I went on a field trip back in 2016. Never won anything like that before, so it was super cool and I have a lot of good memories with the mini 2. My mom also had the tab 3 back then, I remember how slow it was and the small storage lol
If you for any reason want to use one of these im 2023, belive it or not, theres alot more apps for the samsung that still works, theres almodt no apps anymore for ios 12 unfortunate, my ipad air was basically a paperweight.
As someone watching on a silver iPad 9, I didn’t notice anything odd about the iPad mini 😅
Im watching this on my Samsung tab pro 8,4, I've installed lineageOS, and it works perfect, with it's 1440p LCD, it's great for watching movies and reading books
Nice windows vs video
I thought he was going to eat the tablets💀💀
You're right, it is a meme hardware because it uses only 1 GB of RAM and it uses 64-bit architecture that runs 32-bit ram utilization and it runs intel Adam CPU which is so old
I remember I use to have the Samsung galaxy tab 3 the extract color and etc i miss it SOO much and I remeber how it use to have google play? I think it was called instead of KZhead music those were the good days I use to use it to listen to music during my middle school years and 9th grade everyone use to mistake it to me as a big Samsung phone xd
You can try install some custom ROM on Samsung tablet, some lightweight version of Windows to the tablet. And czeck usage in everyday usage and compare with currently unusable iOS : try to install some apps with new account.
My old iPad mini 2 broke back in 2017 :\ I miss using it
How did you get apple pencil having a real pencil look case
i hear mario minigame music, really nostalgic video, i really liked android back then, the samsung ui was bad but it worked anyway and i liked the sounds/notifications, over the horizon
16:40 JESUS CHRIST THAT UPTIME IS CRAZY
Where did you get that Apple Pencil skin? I want it!
Dbrand but I wouldn't suggest supporting them tbh
@@frokfrdk Yeah I’ve seen some sketchy stuff from DBrand
They did a Windows version of the HP Stream 7? I have a HP tablet that I bought in a job lot, think it's a Slate 7 instead of the Stream 7, and has Android 4.1 installed... way too old to be usable now.
omg i had the same exact samsung tablet back in the days, but cellular
the ipad 2 was enough to keep 3rd grade me entertained during covid
The thumbnail legit had me trippin💀💀💀
Samsung tab 3 lite was my first tablet, I got before my first smartphone and laptop, so I used it for everything on internet, still nowadays I used more my phone and tablet than laptop or pc. It lasted for 9 years and actually is still working, but it have some huge problems, the battery die at 60% and it's too old for almost every app, even for youtube app too. Last Christmas I got a new tablet I hope it will last that long too.
you can replace the battery or dont replace it but install a custom rom so that you can run so much things with it
Bro u underrated asf
The Windows tablet was actually good with the original Windows version (8). I rocked one of those for a couple of years ans even used it for work.
Windows 8.x would have worked OK on a tablet, though I'm unconvinced 1GB of RAM would have yielded acceptable performance! The trouble with Windows 8.x is that they threw a tablet-based OS onto a desktop environment with mouse and keyboard - and needless to say, it was awful.
@@TheSpotify95 very true, never understood why they tried to undercut android devices by reducing the ram.