How To Find The Red Dot on A Handgun | Learning RED DOTS On Handguns (Part 2)
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Just got a free course in red dot sight acquisition/pistol drawing from a Sig Sauer Academy instructor. Thanks for this💯
Very informative
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Absolutely!!
I started doing the same thing at my house with the video on thinking he was talking to me. It did work.
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It is so refreshing to watch and listen to an instructor who is focused more on teaching than sharing his anecdotes. Top notch. Learned a lot from this video series.
This was an awesome lesson!
Props to Colion for going out of his way to learn something he doesn't like to get a better at using it
Shooting is alot like golf, you can never reach "as good as you could be" only ever "better than you ever were". There is always something you could improve.
@@chadk3573 yep I found that out
The great thing about the red dot is, after you learn it, you are forced into having proper technique with the handgun, so even if you go back to irons your consistency and presentation is so much nicer than it was before.
Yep
Definitely true
You are right sir
Qwerty Bastard Yep. And I EDC a walther PPQ M1 Q4 with an RM06, surefire xc1b, and a jarvis comp, in a lag tactical IWB holster.
Tombs Clawtooth badass ! Always wanted to shoot a Walter ppq match... just no range has it for rent, and don’t feel like spending $700 just to see how it shoots. Awesome man!
"MOVE THE RIFLE AROUND YOUR HEAD, NOT YOUR HEAD AROUND THE RIFLE!" - Gunny
That is not your daddy’s shotgun Pyle!
This is my rifle this is my gun, this is for fighting this is for fun
Today..... is Jesus' Birthday. So you can give your heart to Jesus, but your ASS belongs to the Corps! SFMF's!!!! OOH-RAH! :)
Semper Fi Gunny. You still live in every Marine! ❤👊🏾💯✌🏾🇺🇸
What is your major malfunction NUMNUTS!!!!!!
I’ve watched all these vids with the red dot and man, this guy is one hell of an instructor.
@the zodiac guru I'm sorry I don't follow and I don't want you to think I'm being hostile. It's not a P229/p226 so you wouldn't decock. The P320's they're using don't have an external safety. Reset what on that firearm? Are you saying he should have emptied the chamber and reinserted the mag? Do you not carry with a round in the chamber? I never saw him violate one of the four fundamentals of gun safety.
@Zodiac, The P320’s are striker fired not hammer, striker fired pistols have the same trigger pull regardless first shot or second or 3rd, I’m assuming your referring to a SA/DA pistol
@the zodiac guru Guess I’m confused by what your referring to “resetting”, all P320’s are striker fired with no safety so it’s either stick back in the holster ready to rock or take Mag out, eject live round, reinsert mag and holster but then you’ll have to re-rack before next drill or next time you need to use...
the zodiac guru I hope to God you don’t own a firearm cause you have no clue WTF you’re talking about
@FlyingTurtle also used the word "irregardless" unironically.
Excellent instructor, smooth even tone, speaks common language no techno speak, simple concise instructions, good attention to trainee's actions and movements for corrective comments.
I think most people use harder terms to sound smarter and lose way too many people in the process
This guy is some instructor. One of the best that I have ever seen. In any sport or activity.
Yeah he seems very good
There aren’t enough instructors for red dots yet. We need more like this on KZhead.
That's because the first 5-7 years of red dots on carry pistols all the people who are praising it now could say was "it'll never work for anything but a match gun, blah blah blah." Now that they've accepted it can and does work and it's not going to fade out people are investing time in learning it and developing instruction around it. There were classes for red dot edc guns around since 2012.
Modern samurai project
SmithandWessonBlazer Modern Samurai is a great one
Yeah Garand Thumb did a video with Modern Samurai
I have to give you props for being able to maintain your concentration and actually learn while under both the eyes of the instructor and on camera, knowing the world will see this. Well done.
And he’s teasing eaaaaarrllyyy on a Saturday. I’m selecting my optic this week and playing all next week!!!
traca williamson RMR!!!
I just got the holosun 407c. Looking forward to trying it out!
Holosun 507 I love this optic. I like it better than rmr
@@MrLuckeastwood I haven't put mine in yet... It's the same pattern as the rmr right?
@@KindredGh0st yes it is I put on my canik tp9sfx and I believe it used the rmr plate.
This is probably the best instructional I've found for free. Thanks to you and the instructor for releasing this. Does anyone recommend any other helpful videos like this?
Anything from Sage Dynamics. Super informative
I love this type of training but what you rarely hear anyone talk about is how tiring it is. It's equally mentally tiring as well as physically. The concentration that it takes to learn something to this degree is definitely worth all that goes into it though. Thanks Colion Noir.
I felt it while watching the vid....scrolled down to read this and agree.
So dramatic
It’s tiring at first but as you train you get used to it and then you find you can do this for very long periods of time and that repetition will smooth each step out.
I'm definitely playing chase the shot next time I'm at the range, that looks like a lot of fun.
I'm ordering a red dot this weekend, definitely can't wait to start working this drill!
I leaned a lot from this instructor. He’s very good
I appreciate you being humble in the understanding we are always learning and trying to get better. No one is perfect no matter how long we've been shooting. Taking the time to listen and learn from others with knowledge instead of being one of those who always act like they know everything is refreshing. Semper Fi !
Sig gives such good instruction! It kills you to go slow, doesn't it?
Does anyone know who the instructor is, I’d like him to teach me about red dot shooting
Un sTABle he mentions his name in his “why I hate red dots” video. I think that’s what the video is anyways.
@@billm5751 His name is Colin Murphy he is an instructor at the Sig Sauer Academy in NH.
Charles Bowman thank you Sir
Holy cow, that instructor is totally awesome! .. fantastic .. and Colion you are an excellent student! .. fantastic stuff .. so glad you could share this with those of us who cannot afford such a super top notch instructor like this fellow.
Thanks Colin. This was invaluable for a newer shooter like me to learn about red dots and the importance of a great instructor.
Game changer! I have been drilling this over and over since last night and it works. I picked up a bad habit, ducking my head to meet the dot instead of bringing it up to me. Great video 👏
Colin is a learner and an expert. There are always other ways. It great to see a good listener.
This instructor is amazing!
As Aaron Cowan at Sage Dynamics teaches, with RDS focus on your target and press out, pointing your finger at your target. The dot will be there right on your point of focus. It’s worked for me no matter if I’m running my 1911, CZ, or Glock.
I just installed my first red dot on my Canik TP9 Elite SC. I've been working on the draw and aim. This video is very helpful. Thank you for posting 2 years ago. 😁
Colion....Thank you, thank you for this vid. I have been frustrated for YEARS with red dots on pistols to the point I just sold my last one a couple months ago. Now I know the drill and hopefully will be able to enjoy a red dot.
damn, I learned/realized more things in the first 5 minutes than in my first class. no disrespect to my first teacher, just now ready to fine tune stuff. wow, just wow
Facts bro, new to red dot and this just put me where i needed to be.
I am cross eyed to. This was the simplest and best tip/ lesson I've ever received. I just put my red dot back on after 2years. I could not find it consistently and took it off. Thank you
Just picked up a sig p365x w/romeozero. First experience with a red dot. Not really sure how it was supposed to work til this video. Thanks to both of you.
good tips
Mrgunsngear Channel have you used the one with the amber triangle?
Tre' Roney The Delta Point is great for shooting long distances. Using the tip of the triangle. I can hit a 12 inch plate at a 100yds quicker than this 11:08
Lmao GnG with another one or two word reply on a fellow gun KZheadr channel. I love it big 🐕
Whoa! Very impressive. Thank you for paying for those lessons brother. I am definitely taking advantage of it, as I just put a red dot on my gun and I’m trying to get the hang of it. These are fantastic lessons for beginners.
Every time Colion looked down to re-holster I could hear my instructor yelling at me, "the threat is in front of you, don't look down!" I've been shooting my Glock with a red dot for about 6 months, I can pick up the dot every time now.
Bloosee why re-holster if the threat in front of you is still enough of a threat to warrant not looking down?
@@THATMOFODIRT Fair point. But you should probably learn to re-holster while keeping your eyes on the incident.
I appreciate that you don't pretend to be a know it all and take the time and effort to further yourself. Keep it up.
I was totally absorbed watching this video. I really enjoyed it and am grateful for the tips as I’m about to fit a Burris Fastfire 3 to my tuned Wilson Combat/Beretta 92G Brigadier Tactical. This video captured much more than technique, it also captured humility and that made me pay far more attention. Thank you very much.
Amazing trigger control! You both shoot as if you never anticipated a shot in your life. Thank you for posting; helpful information applicable for shooting even with just iron sights.
Thanks for posting this series - great instruction. You can tell that he's reacting to your specific needs rather than just going through the motions generically. That last drill is a great one. Will definitely be trying that one with a friend.
Thank you Colion. Been watching you for some time now from a distance. Me and my wife have finally bit the bullet on making our first purchase and now going down that rabbit hole of gaining knowledge to be the best we can be for our country and fellow brothers and sisters! Thank you for this video specifically, we are wanting to try the optics and see if we can up our game!
Colin you are the coolest and most focused! Love all your videos and the chase the shot drill looks like a fun one to play with my kids. Thank you for been you.
“We’re at the range today, so please bear with gunfire you may hear in the background”. 😀 All kidding aside, that looked like some great training.
haha. I caught that quote from Paul Harrell
I just bought a P365-X-Macro Comp with the Romeo Zero Elite. Shot 100rounds before I bought it at the Sig Flagship store in Epping NH. Been years since I shot a pistol. Never shot a red dot on a pistol. The staff professional and supportive. After watching this video I know the dry drills I have to run before I go back to the range. Thanks for this video. Head on a swivel. Fortuna Favet Fortibus
Thank you so much for expressing how we can overcome cross eye dominance using our left hand to pec/chest. I’ve been searching and searching for techniques how to quickly get in position from holster carry, and this piece of advice is lifesaving in moments where seconds will matter.
Hey, Colin!! (and Colion..) I had Colin in the last SIG Class I had. Great teacher! Thank You Both for All You Do!
I've also had a class with him. Great instructor.
Same! He was wonderful!
What a great instructor.
Colion, thank you for publishing this. We all are learning right there with you. “Keep up the fire.”
Outstanding lesson. I purchased a new weapon with my first red dot and was having all kinds of trouble finding the dot. I can’t wait to get to the range and implement what was taught in the video. Well done!
That training session was fire. My wife and I will try that as well. Great job bro.
That looks like fun! 👍 C’mon Sig. I’m still waiting for my Romeo1Pro that ordered back in December. Get it together, Sig!
He’s one of the best instructors I’ve seen. Easy to understand. Nice and direct. Nice shooting
Love this! Real information, honest approach! Great training. I appreciate that you don’t come across as you have it all figured out and that you are teachable. I can trust that in a man! Exactly how I roll. I can never learn to much.Thanks for sharing and all that you do to inform us about the real attack on our freedom!
Love the chase shooting at the end I need to try. Good shooting!
4:15 He is TOTALLY Blade!!! FREAKIN AWESOME! oh, and nice video!😎
Nice!! As a gun owner we should be vigilant, confident, and diligent in our draw every time. The acquisition of the skills you are teaching is priceless. I’m learning a lot from your channel, good stuff my man
This instructor is the best. Clear and concise. Simple. I just learned more (I did the drills with you) about acquiring my dot in 10 minutes.
Don't forget the dark glasses when it's cloudy!
Larry W I have vision issues and sometimes wear shades when it isn’t bright out. He may be wearing them for more than just style.
clearly youve never been outside when its overcast...
I have light eyes and large pupils and i frequently feel that it's more "bright" (as far as my eyes hurting) when it's overcast than when it's sunny. UV is invisible and doesn't cause your pupils to constrict like bright visible light does, but it still hurts your eyes. So you can actually get more of it in your eyes on a slightly overcast day than on a sunny day
Cloudy days are worse for your eyes than clear days. There is the same amount of UV but your pupils dont constrict as much.
As a guy with red dots; Im very much diggin this mini “series”
I dont even have a reddot on any of my pistols and I'm strongly thinking about it now. Very enlightening.
ANTDZL VIZION, see if your local range has one to rent, maybe try your buddy’s if youve got one, or maybe the guy in the stall next to you at the range to try a few rounds. Im no expert, but I love it and this series helps put things into even better perspective and red dot use/application
OMG! Love this new "Chase the Bullet Hole" drill!
I'm almost 52. Been shooting since I was 8 years old. Very good with AK's, AR's, shotguns, etc. Grew up hunting, even as a kid, sometimes in order to help feed our family. Do my own gunsmithing for the most parts as well. I can fit and install every part on a 1911. Strip and clean AR/AK blindfolded. My all time favorite handgun, the one I qualified (perfect score) with for my CWP, is an old, well worn P228, my most cherished handgun in my collection. But for the life of me, I CAN NOT GET THE HANG of red dots on a handgun. I have tried in the past with a Canik TP9sfx. Took the dot off after 10 minutes. I gave up. It was not natural. I DIDNT trust the dot. It was floating unnaturally around. I didn't want to send one over the berm. My buddy took the handgun..boom boom boom, center mass. I was so frustrated. I also have bad astigmatism. The dot is not a dot. It's a star bust. I felt left out of a sport I truly love and cherish. I recently bought a Sig M17 and a M18 (my buddy is shooting a Sig X5 Legion with a Romeo sight. I chose to go with two handguns for the price of one..but one day, if I can learn this red dot thing, I will buy a Legion as well) and I am going to learn this skill, once and for all. I got a Holosun with the circle dot in green. This is easier on my eyes with my astigmatism. Having two items on glass makes it easier for me to find the dot and put everything into perspective. No idea why. But it is. This has been the very BEST video I have found on how to learn this skill. Thank you Colion and Sig Sauer Training Academy!!! I have this video on REPEAT. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Sorry for the novel, but I had to share my excitement.
Love Sig Sauer academy 👍🏻👍🏻
Great lesson vid Colin. Im not big on red dots on pistols. After watching this that makes perfect sense how people get proficient at using them😊👍. #keepAmericatactical
I'm the same way. But, it's funny. I always had red dots (aim point, and then etch) on my issued long guns, but nothing but night sights on my pistols.
@@ralphholiman7401 ditto brother😊👍
These are some great drills to do even at home dry firing. The SIG instructor is really great also.
Great instructor….this was actually something I was having trouble with because I have a rather small Holosun 407k on my P365 and have noticed having a difficulty finding the dot. This helped me a lot! Thanks guys!
10:58 Great camera work
😁👍 I knew this one was coming!
That last drill looks so much fun. I would definitely be trying this when I find a range that will allow it.
Nice training ,Always Informative content thanks Colion!!
"Aim small miss small." Don't hear that enough these days! Most of the stuff today is "how fast can I put rounds anywhere on this steel plate?"
You should train to shoot at fast as possible and hit whatever size/distance your target is. The 9mm and 5.56 are rounds that are very forgiving of missed shots. You're more likely to have good effects with multiple rounds. If your target is man sized at 10m you don't need to be taking slow, accurate shots. You slow down your shot cadence for more distant or smaller, low percentage targets.
True
That’s why I use small steel plates
Hey Colin, I’m a firearms instructor for law enforcement. I’ve never shot with a red dot on a pistol before. This looked like some fun, legit training! TBH, the advice he gave you @5:00 was exactly what I saw, when watching the video. It’s amazing the crazy habits we pick up, and don’t even notice unless someone points them out to us.
That last “follow my shot” is one I haven’t seen before. Really cool and I will definitely do in the future. Great video.
What a great experience. Even if we think we are good shooters, a lesson like this can teach SOOOO much! Awesome.
Great teacher there
This a great video, would love to see more like this one.
I just picked up the Sigg 365 XL with the Romeo site. I have been struggling with this same issue. I learned two things number one don’t co witness the site And start with a slightly down angled approach. This was just what I needed. Thank you ....off to practice today!
Not only did we learn, and enjoy this educational display, but we got to see a variety of holster that we'll probably seek for a new holster!
Man, this is just what I needed today. About to buy a Romeo 1.
Don't, you'll regret it...upgrade to the Delta Point Pro, with the 7.5 MOA triangle reticle. I have one on my Sig P320, absolutely love it.
Killacamfoo O.G. Don’t listen to victor. Do your research and get what you want and what fits you. I do a 3.5 MOA so I can get more precise hits, do what you want 👍🏻
Man I'm on the same boat, just got a P320 X Vtac and now I gotta save for the Romeo1 😅
@@victorcoleman949 I'd consider that or an RMR, but both are hundreds more than the deal I have on a Romeo1 for $299. Plus, that 7.5 MOA is no longer made, and I'd need an adapter for a CZ P10-C OR.
@@victorcoleman949 - do you run backup iron sights, and if so which ones. I’m looking but a delta pro, but I am concerned about the height of the sights needed to get over the height of the base of the delta point pro. I will be putting it on a G35 as a carry gun. Also, if you run iron backups, what holster did you find that would accept the taller front sight?
This an outstanding instructional video. Colion to you and your instructor, Thankyou
I applaud you so much in going through this especially since you didn't like it at first. I always say that shooting is like falling in love, getting the girl and then keeping the girl happy. It takes constant work to truly get better at it every day throughout your life. So again, Kudos on doing this and sharing it with the rest of us. 🤜🤛
Just added a Romeozero to my Hellcat. I can already tell that I will have to retrain myself. Having not shot any rounds yet i hope the training goes quick. Ammo is to expensive to have an all day training session. Colion, your the best.
Nice, I just added the Swampfox Sentinel to the Hellcat. I have astigmatism, and it's not easy to find the red dot. I'm going to zero it in today and do some dry fire practice. The range doesn't allow drawing from the holster, so I'll use a few other drills.
Bell rings* "Someone had a dead man's gun" Meaning what?
Someone didnt have their gun loaded when it was their turn to shoot
How does KZhead know I just put a red dot on my glock?!
KZhead: we're listening, literally! Ominous laugh.
Big brother is always watching
If you're using any apps by Google , they monitor your location 24/7 when the phone is on (even with the GPS off). The estimated location that you're currently in is frighteningly accurate ( it's usually
Now THAT was informative... especially now that I’m trying red dots on pistols instead of iron sights only. The whole fishing thing with my eyes is still something I’m working through. Right hand shooter left eye dominant. I also shoot all long guns left shoulder only. It’s a work in progress with these red dots especially coming from years of training where we come out of the holster and swing up towards the target.
Always made more sense to me to have slight bend in elbows rather than those locked out arms I see a lot. Cool to hear this instructor assert this and his stance really seems to absorb a lot of the recoil.
I'm needing to get a red dot for my conceal carry. My eye's aren't getting any better.
This is what I'm wondering. If the dot is focused beyond 10 or 20 ft, then presbyopia - which causes issues being able to see iron sights clearly - won't be a problem. I switched to red-dot and scopes on my rifles for this reason and I'm wondering if I should consider switching to red-dot on my pistol as well. I think a trip to my local gun store/range is in order to try for myself.
@@billwells7464 I've shot my buddies Glock 19 with an RMR Gen2 and I was able to shoot a lot better. I carry a G19 as well so I guess that's my next upgrade.
@@brazzy1467 Yeah. I'm wondering if I can find a factory gen4 MOS slide somewhere. I'd rather not buy another pistol just for the MOS, but a slide or a trade-in would be good. First, I need to try shooting with an optical sight to see how it works for me.
@@billwells7464 Brownells has the cut slides for sell.
@yan chang I've thought about it but I have a very big phobia of anything getting close to my eyes. VERY BIG, but I'm supposed to talk to the doctor in two months about it when I go to the VA for my eye check up.
You're supposed to push straight out from the draw with iron sights as well! The techniques he's showing are the same techniques you're supposed to have been doing with iron sights as well. It's all about mastering the fundamentals. Had he mastered the fundamentals during his iron sight period, the transition over to red dot would've been uneventful!
This is the best. Buying a weapon is pretty easy. Being in great shape and well trained is much harder and much more important. Please give us more of these type of vids. Kudos and thanks much...
That chase the shot drill was sick. Looked super fun
Colion my issue with red dots is in a fight you don't aim. Not with a handgun not with an m4 a 240 or 249 unless its the beginning of an ambush. I can see their use in competition but sadly for most Americans we have one handgun for most eventualities or sporting uses. Love your content. My question is what is your recommendation for red dot vs iron sights now that you have had more time to properly learn? (For competition and combat)
A lot of panicked self defenders dont use their sights and just shoot to shoot but if you watch hundreds of police body cams and security camera footage you notice the people aiming stopping the threat as quickly as possible. Countless shootings where aimed accurate shots have been used to stop the threat
@@ethanwiley7605 my i point out the plethora of incidents where police fire 60 shots and don't hit. Trust me from personal experience when bullets are going the other way you don't think to aim.
@@semper8040 while that may be true, the goal should always be to use your sights... Accurate well placed shots from cover win fights. Why do you think US troops typically win firefights in the middle East and casualties are usually from IEDs? Because the Taliban doesnt aim...
@@semper8040 Most cops can't shoot and don't train often.
@@edwardstroud390 its true i have become far more weapon proficient after EAS
The instruction to exaggerate the barrel down to find my red dot changed everything for me.
That was an excellent class. I really like these drills. Especially earning your shot rather than training bad habits chasing the dot.
Man you awesome to show this on the tube. I would be embarrassed to let people watch me while I was learning something especially in a day when if you talk about a topic you are expected by many to somehow magically be an expert about everything related to it.
I would like to thank you guys both for this video. I started practicing this weekend with a red dot on my pistol. It was a little off putting he explained everything really well I feel I understand were I was going wrong . Again thank you, much appreciated.
Bro.... thank you for this. I love watching you learn bcuz it mimics my efforts. Keep pushing
Awesome series. I’m getting ready to transition from a G19G5 to a G19G5 MOS w/RMR. These are excellent drills to work through the new skills.
Thank you! I love this. I need this kind of training! Just watching had taught me technique I didn't know.
I noticed that I drop my head/chin to locate my red dot as well. Been trying to practice and get better with it for the past 3 months and I was about to ditch the red dot of my pistol. Boy of boy did this video help me gain a better understanding......thanks Big Dawg for posting and sharing your experience with us 🤙🤘
“Keep your head up” Colion-“it takes more than 10 rounds to untrain me from a multi year habit” 😂
That last drill is badass
Excellent tips. I used the instructional tips and I am completely amazed on how they work when presenting and squiring the red dot.
Colion, I am a long time viewer of your content and sometimes critic of your platform. I believe that a 2A voice with your abilities should not use your statements as a hook to bring in the audience and then hit them with a merch offer. My opinion only, is that this (your) advocacy needs to be less about commercialism and more about altruism. That being said, I have to tell you that this was hands down your best video ever. Here’s why: it unapologetically showed your flaws and pursuits. For those of us who carry for a living, it’s a reminder about complacency in our training. If you watch this video and have any self awareness, you’ll see some of yourself in what Colion was doing or not doing. From how he placed his support hand to his chest, his muzzle awareness, his head and shoulder movement, his attention on the instructor, his obvious commitment to his training (i.e. not going through the motions for the sake of a KZhead viewer count) etc, etc. I learned a lot, I recognized some of my own bad habits, and for that, I sincerely thank you.
You have ramdomly been selected as a winner, telegram me for prize champion,,,
Great tactics spoken from a tried and true OP. Thanks colion my family and I love you.
Absolutely love this guy. Your channel is a God send Colion.
Colin, Outstanding follow up shots. Hoorah.