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Biscuit test, Seasoning, and Multiple Cooks, I test it all to give you the pros and cons of the new Goldees Backyard Offset!
Really excited for this new Goldees Pit! It fixes the problem with radiant heat that most backyard pits struggle with, while maintaining a true backyard sized pit foot print.
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Additional Notes: - I just learned that the Franklin Pit's cost includes shipping, It cost me $500 to have the Goldee's smoker shipped to my house, so the price gap is closer. - Brisket cook will be out next week (So subscribe pls!) Hope you guys enjoyed this review, it feels good to be back at home cooking again. I haven't cooked in my backyard in almost 6 months! I'll be back on the road early next month shooting the next BBQ Story in NC, but it was nice to stop off at home and cook like the old days. If you guys enjoy this content, then please like, share it and subscribe! That way I know I should make more of these types of videos! BBQ Story featuring Bar-A-BBQ in Montgomery will come out first week of November, so stay tuned!
Glad I found this video. I'm honestly impressed with the smoker
Lighter fluid?
Can’t beat all of them they are all definitely worth some good cooking
I just learned welding.. I fina make one for myself.. looks like it would be a fun project!❤
Good luck
Thanks for the vid!! Looking forward to the brisket cook. Really want to know what fire management is like on this smoker for a long cook!
I talk about my setup and also the experience in the brisket cook video, but it's super easy. The pit maintains temps super well. First brisket I cooked took 12 hours (thinking of dropping a short on that cook) second one (vid out next week) was 14ish and both times it was chill
When I saw this pit I redesigned my current pit and this design works incredible. It looks like one of these but smaller amazing design!
Yeah man, Jonny and the Goldees guys are really out of the box thinkers
This is absolutely the best independent review of the Goldees pit! The is an evolutional step compared to conventional offset pits. Great coverage of pros and cons to allow people to decide if this is the one for them. I would think that if you are spending this amount of cash, there would be no reason not to go with the Goldees pit.
Appreciate it, Ed! I'm with you, at that price point I think Goldees is the one. The only other one I'd suggest is the workhorse because of the crazy value at under $3k
@@AntsBBQCookout Absolutely. The workhorse seems to be the unicorn from a pricing perspective. In my opinion, that evolutionary step of this smoker sets it apart.
Great review and comparison video. Haven't used a smoker and your approach gives people the info they need to know about those smokers so they can make an informed decision. I understand more about an offset smoker now and some of their features. (build qualities) Finding out on your own is why people have had 8 different smokers (and not knowing how to use them or what they're good for) so I would love to see what's best for the novice that's not going to a competition on the weekends. To me from what I seen a cabinet smoker seems to be an easier pit to master but I haven't spent big money on a smoker yet so.. Nice video anyway, stay cool!
Outside of offsets I'm loving my camp chef xxl pro. That thing is a beast and is super easy to use. My second favorite smoker right now!
Question, do you think that the Pipe going from the Firebox to the Smoker has potential to loose a lot of heat during cold or rainy weather. Great video.
Great review, as always, keeping it unbiased 😊 Im a bit concerned about using the lighter fluid tho 😮
Thanks! Haha don't be, it won't hurt just gets the fire started
Great review!!
Great Review!
This is an absolute fantastic channel for learning backyard low & slow! Thanks for being a great resource!
Thanks for watching and supporting!
Interesting review. Although I have a good Shirley Fab offset, this was informative. Interestingly enough...you should give the Shirley Fabrication 94 gal traditional offset a look. It answers your every con and lower price point than the two you mentioned here. Been enjoying your channel's content for a few topics. Thanks for taking the time.
Would love to do more pit reviews. There's a lot of options out there!
Love the channel! Keep up the great work!
Thanks!
A great honest review, Ant. Looking forward to the brisket video.
Thank you! Coming soon 😁
Amazing review.
🙏
Great review and 100% a great pit for sure! I'm currently building one identical here in the uk with the nod from jirby. I cannot wait 😊
You don't need any permission to build a smoker like he's built as long as you don't put his name on it. And I don't blame ya for building one yourself cause they are overly expensive
That's cool jirby didn't care hahaha that's just like him
I love the design on this pit ! Great video brother 👊
Thank you!! 🙏🙏
Anymore cook videos on this beast?!?! ❤
I love this channel and your content
Appreciate you!
I know there's probably a bunch of comments also mentioning it, but that Sailor Moon apron is awesome!
I’ve been waiting for this since Jirby mentioned it last night!!!
Hahaha I watched the recorded stream while I edited this video. Jonny is hilarious I think he's gonna react to this tonight!
@@AntsBBQCookout he mentioned that. I’ll be watching!
This design works amazingly well. Only thing that would make it better is rounded ends by the smoke stack and firebox by the elbows. That would help eliminate the hot spot in the cook chamber and allow better smoke travel up the elbow exchange. Great job showcasing it.
Interesting! Thanks man, appreciate it 😁
Wish I had one.
Another very informative upload. Thanks you very much. I’m waiting for the MM back yard smoker prototype shown in your video when you visit there. They should be ready by spring/ Summer 2024
Appreciate it! Are you talking about the backyard offset prototype or the backyard rotisserie?
@@AntsBBQCookout I’m talking about the backyard offset prototype. I know you got a good look at it in person. What did you think about?
I think it's great! It's just a small version of their big offset which runs amazing. So I'm sure the backyard model will be awesome too I know it will be more expensive though. I can't remember exact numbers but I think estimate is between 5-6k
@@AntsBBQCookout thanks for the info. Did it had their style heat deflector like how they have on there bigger models?
yeah, the bypass between the firebox and cookchamber? If it's that, it was a smaller down scale. It was just the prototype though, so I don't know if theyll change it or if it works as good as the big offsets. We didn't fire it up.
Love the FF8 music near the end!
Ive often wondered how a cone shaped smoke collector would do. Would it cause the pit to surge in temps and use more fuel, or would it be the greatest idea ever?
bro, love your confidence for wearing a Sailormoon apron.
Bro where did get that sailor moon cooking apron?? Shits dope lol
As I said on Jirby's channel, while I'm a fan of traditional looks on open offsets, I gotta give it to them for coming up with something innovative that actually delivers on the premises. Good job on the honest review, subbed
Appreciate that, man!
Great video. I'm thinking about finally getting into bbq after watching it for the past year and only doing slow cooks in my oven. I think the place to start is a kettle smoker(yes/no?). Would you recommend any one in particular? the webber seems to be significantly less expensive then something like the sns, and obviously I don't know enough to tell the difference in where that $200 dollar delta is going, wether it be build quality or something that will actually impact the way it cooks. I know the sns insert is useful, but if I can buy that for $100 and throw it in a webber, I'd still be saving money. let me know what you think
I did that exact thing with the sns insert in a weber kettle I got for free on offer up. The sns works great! I've cooked just about everything in it :)
@@AntsBBQCookout Thanks dude, you rule.
Good smoker but your list of cons is everything that i actually want on my smoker. Thanks for the input
the most impressive in this video is where do you get tha doug bgm!
I feel like a lot of smokers are putting effort to redirect that front blast of hot air coming from the fire box recently. Makes me feel justified with my cheap Old Country smoker where I kept the baffle plate, but put a piece of foil a few inches after the baffle to ramp the air back up. I need to do a biscuit test at some point to see if it actually helped even the temps, or if it's just in my head...
yeah haha biscuit test would def answer the question!
Thanks Ant. Hope those smoke leaks disappear once you get some more cooks in the books. FYI the Franklin pit at 5k includes shipping whereas the Goldees does not. Anywhere outside of Texas that makes this more expensive (not discounting its larger). Edit - saw your pinned comment
I run my fire super smoky first few hours and damper at 25%. Once I get it rolling in the later stages of the cook there's no smoke coming out of the cook chamber :)
@@AntsBBQCookout Some smoke leakage isn’t a big deal at all. On my 1975, I close the stack damper 2/3 and it’s a huffing puffing machine with some smoke coming out the doors, grease drain, and firebox door. I can make brisket as good as I’ve had in Texas running it like that, but not so much when I was running it stack wide open with extremely fast airflow with no smoke leakage.
thats my experience too, i like it smoky :) ive seen centex, MMs, milscales, primitives and more and they all leak when you run it smoky
Top racks hold a true advantage to tenderize beef or turkey & also for crispy skin on chicken. Helps get sides hot etc etc, my 1000 is a beast with 4 top racks
Top racks have their uses for sure. I just never use them
is that Digimon world tropical jungle music at 9:00?
Awesome and balanced review. As a north of the border, backyard smoker dad, I can tell you our 🇨🇦 off-set options are few. If we pull the trigger on one of these bad boy 🇺🇸 products, research is critical so I applaud what you do. Factor in exchange rate, taxes, shipping, brokerage and delivery make your info and opinions a welcome insight. Cheers 🍺🍺
Truth. I got quoted 14k CAD by the time shipping and duties got added in on Millscale … thus why I went with Smoke North
Didn't even think to include that info. Thanks for the tip
@@SmokingDadBBQ thank you for your validation as your opinion holds currency too. I’m a sub on your YT chanel and came to know of Smoke North because of you. I’m personally less of a kettle guy, but your amazing off set reviews and other relevant info have helped me make informed decisions. And food. Cheers fellow Canuck! 🍺🍺
Great video! Perfect timing right after Mad Scientist’s test of it and Jirby’s review of the Mad Scientist video. Still not quite sure if it is the design or the extra space that lets it supposedly cook as much as a 250 gallon, or even if it really does cook as much as a 250 gallon. You need to directly compare the two to show people. Lastly, I think you pink hat and apron give you credibility! 😂
250 can cook more for sure. It can do like 9-11 briskets (9 comfortably). Hahaha so the design must be legit then!
love the doug music in the background!
W ear
@@AntsBBQCookout@4:29. it’s music used in the end credits once in a while.
This is the video we've been waiting for
It's here!! 😤😤
@@AntsBBQCookout I've been looking for a goldies pit breakdown, and the other YT vids were a bit of a let down. Keep up the good work
🙏🙏
Nice review. I'd love to see a comparison of the Goldee's pit and the Workhorse.
Would love to get my hands on one. The tmg would be cool to review too
Nice video as always Ant! And a great review of the pros and cons, thanks for that. What gives the Goldees more capacity than the TMG? The TMG cooking grate is 52”x27” where it looks like the Goldee is 50”x24”. Or are you doing something like factoring their hotspots into the equation? Either way, it seems like it’s probably close.
Thanks man! The TMG capacity was solely based on Mad Scientists comments in his review. Im guessing thats because of the hot spots? But I have seen the vollunteer in person at TMG, and that thing is a monster. It's noticeably bigger than the goldees pit if I remember correctly.
I can't help but believe that there's a way to eliminate or almost eliminate the hot spot in front of the heat/smoke entry point but I'm not a smoker designer. Still, I would like to experiment with different entry baffle designs and possibly add pieces of steel/shields in other areas if needed to try to more even out the flow of heat at that point. I have a couple welders and metal cutting tools so this would probably be something I would attempt if I had one of these high end backyard smokers. If none of my attempts worked as hoped I could always cut out the added pieces and go back to the original design. I would look at it as a challenge since it seems to be one of those things that hasn't been perfected yet. Also, if I had the Goldee's smoker I'd cut the smoke stack at a reasonable height in order to push it into a storage place/garage and fabricate a hinge and weld it on so that the stack could be folded. Many welders are affordable these days and while the cheaper ones most likely couldn't weld 1/4 inch steel for structural purposes I'm sure they'd be plenty good enough to add the things I've mentioned. I'd also fabricate and add a shelf on the front while I was at it.
That would be interesting! Yeah wish it had foldable stack or like a bolted removable one.
This can easily extend into a very overly long winded reply! I am also in the process of rebuilding my burned out smoker. it's only 30ish years old and is pretty much burned out on the fire pit. I've seen the Goldeez and really like the concept. The one thing that really frustrates me is all of these smokers have the opening to the end on the right hand end. I am going to rotate my fire pit so the opening is to the front, and instead of using an elbow, I am making a rectangular duct, for the throat, from the fire pit into the cooking side. I do expect to need to install future deflectors, but I won't know for sure until I have my first fires. I will continue this later, "more on the news at 11:00".
Nice hat bro
You’re in good shape no matter what man. Give me any ill be happy 😂
True that hahaaha
Does it cook as good as your 250 (or like a larger pit)? From what Jeremy says, the Franklin and Fatstack pits cook like larger offsets, providing a restaurant quality product. What are your thoughts? Gonna do a comparison with your 250?
I cooked with them side by side for an event last Tuesday. And it ran noticibly better. I think it's because of the stack, the stack is the same width but taller on the goldees so the draw is nuts. Even at 25% closed damper it was rolling beautifully. Holds temps way better too. I think people are gonna be blown away by the brisket cook that I'll post next week. This smoker is amazing, I love it.
@@AntsBBQCookoutThanks for the insight. Not to belabor the point, but did the briskets taste comparable? I’m asking because I’m really curious as to how airflow affects quality. This seems to be a different cooking style than Franklin, so there’s much to be investigated prior to dropping nearly 5 grand after shipping. Thanks again man.
You can run this pit like a Franklin. Just open the damper and the door. The design just gives you more capacity in that "golden convection space" in the cooker. It would just take way longer to cook since the heat would be rushing passed the brisket. The damper let's you keep the hot smoke in the cook chamber cooking it faster and giving you insane color. It's almost like turning it into a less hot version of a cabinet smoker if that makes sense.
@@AntsBBQCookout Very interesting. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge. Do you think you’ll use this more than your 250? If it functions as expected, I imagine it’ll take less time to cook almost the same amount of food with less fuel-and that’s pretty important from a business perspective. Thanks again.
Yeah I'm trying to sell my 250 so I can buy a 500 now!
Hopefully i will be able to buy one of these within the next year.
Cool, you'll love it!
Jirby you thought about shooting that air up to the top of the cook chamber in the goldees pit?
Idk what he thought. You should ask him on his instagram
Good video. I miss these reviews. I think you made some great points regarding the smoker. I was intrigued by this but for some reason, the FatStacks 120 and Workhorse pits are the two I’m in between on. Any reviews for those in the future? I’ve already seen others.
was fun to do, so glad you enjoyed! i would hold off on fatstack, i think theyre having trouble at the moment keeping up with the orders they already have. i believe they have a 2+ year wait time rn. Workhorse is great for the price! Wish i could review a workhorse, hopefully i can borrow one in the future!
I would consider a workhorse pit over this. The cowboy grill, which utilizes its firebox as a method to sear is a game changer for me. And it's 3/8 inch thick and cheaper. :)
Yeah the workhorse is such a great deal! I was gonna ask Jeremy to let me borrow his to do a review on it but his brother has it rn :(
@@AntsBBQCookout aww.. btw great work on your channel man. keep up the great work.
Did the water pan push the hot spot?
Naw not really, you can pause it during my biscuit test. Looked about the same as Jonnys but I had my damper at 50% and I ran at 350F
@@AntsBBQCookout Aw, thanks!!
Great review Ant! All the lighter fluid comments are cracking me up - you made Jirby proud 😂
This is a nightmare 😂😂 I'm getting cooked right now hahahha
Goldees, your other pit, a Weber Smokey mountain and pellet smoker in a brisket blind taste test. The video we all need
Hahaha oh man, that idea has mad scientists name all over it
That M & M rotisserie smoker is the best I think, no overly hot places
Yeah rotisseries are amazing. Seen a lot of places rocking them and they make incredible food way faster than an offset
I wonder if this design would work with a square firebox?
no idea hahaha
So 6 inch pipe pushing heat intensities high through the middle of the pit food grate
🤷♂️
The TMG Volunteer takes care of all the cons you mentioned about this pit.
Its a different pit with its own pros and cons
We need to get Ants BBQ a Volunteer!!! Our biscuit test showed a completely different picture than what was portrayed recently....
I would have to lay on the ground to load that fire box. Wow.
i think if a guy grinded a hole in the grate for the water pan, and layed it flush ,it would block some of that heat in middle
Perhaps 🤷♂️
Compare it with a Workhorse 1975 with cost! ;)
Yeah workhorse is on another planet on terms of price would love to get one and do one of these reviews on it!
the Doug background music was nice
😁😁
It's not subjective, Cost - Goldees, capacity - Goldees, controllability - Goldees, attention to detail - Goldees I am sure when you order the pit you can upgrade the wheels, a shelf and a foldable stack. Even if the price becomes comparable to franklin's the goldees pit is still better.
That’s a new one for me, Pelegríno sparkling water as a binder 🤔
It was all I had since i was sippin on it lol I was too lazy to get something else and the ribs were really dry 😂
Lol great video sir!
I wish I could buy one in Mexico 😮
:/ you could pick it up from tool, TX 🤷♂️
Cool pit design and great review. But I don't think you're giving Aaron Franklin the credit he deserves for his design. He built it so that you can't (hopefully) screw up a cook by playing with the stack damper and the firebox door adjustments. Just maintain temps with good fire management, as Jeremy stated in his comparison video,. On my Moberg 250, the area closest to the firebox is the coolest area unless I crank it up to 300 -350 degrees to finish a cook or to smoke chicken. You (and others) should review the Moberg backyard pit. #gottagetamoberg.
I said those exact things in the video. It's a beginner friendly design. Just the franklin and the goldees are dummy proofed like that. It's a positive feature for beginners. I would love to man, I have no biases towards any smokers, I'd review them all if I had them.
My Johnson Reverse Flow Pit from texas destroys that. Ill take any challenge anytime
Hey man what’s with the girl apron?
gotta sprinkle some of jonny’s beard hair for extra msg flavor
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Did you actually use lighter fluid?
Ye
See if you can get a moburg backyard pit they are beasts
Didn't even know they made backyard pits
@@AntsBBQCookout they doo but they gotta be the most expensive out of them all I think around 6k if I’m not mistaken
Why 🥲
Moberg doesn’t make backyard pits anymore. I emailed him this month.
Nobody wants to mention the workhorse 1957 anymore. I watched Jeremy’s biscuit test. He never talked about how it was trying to maintain temp on each smoker. The price of these are extremely high. I enjoy the bbq I make with what I have. We all know. We want better. I don’t know. Does better justifies the cost?
1975 is a beast! at the price point for a traditional backyard offset i think its a no brainer buy a complete league in its own . but based on my cooks and what i share in the video, i think the goldee is a better design for a backyard offset. i'll see if i can borrow a 1975, would love to do an in depth review.
Damn, don’t call it the 250 killer, as I wait to take delivery of my new Primitive 250 gallon wagon lol
Lol all good man I have a 250 too. Can still cook 9-11 briskets compared to 6-8 on the goldees. But I want to sell mine now and get a 500 🫣
Can’t believe you put lighter fluid in the box😳
😱😱😱
I commented on Jirbys reaction to this video & even though it was a positive comment it’s been deleted. Is Jirby vetting comments now????
Final fantasy 8 music......memories.
W childhood
Sponsor by the BBQ joint who sponsor the BBQ pit. It’s a cool smoker but overpriced, Luke Franklin.
Naw I think porter road sponsored this one lol
im callin this the migos... offset!
🫡🫡
I remember when barbecuing was about having fun and making cheap meat taste good with minimal cost
You still can lol you don't have to buy a high end smoker
@@AntsBBQCookoutexactly! I roll with a Weber kettle most of the time and it’s great!
I am with you on that, the weber kettle is all I have and I use wood chunks for smoke flavor, the food always turns out great. I am single so its usually just me but I can do a 17 pound brisket or 2 racks of ribs and its the perfect size for me or if I invite a few friiends over.
Did you just use lighter fluid?
Yeah it is. Jirby warned me about showing you guys that 😂 yt hates lighter fluid. This is like the 10th comment about it
@@AntsBBQCookout 🤣
It is bare bones but still overly expensive
It's the second cheapest of the backyard high end offsets
Is this host Mad Scientist BBQ's understudy?
BBQ the musical?? 😂
I think Workhorse Pitts are the best
Would love to try one someday!
Why did you put lighter fuel in the pit to start your fire..
more places than you'd probably want to know do it this way.. its just easier than getting out the torch and doesnt make a difference at the end.
Lighter fluid... really?
Ye
Jirby from Goldees bbq uses lighter fluid.
Did I just watch you use lighter fluid in a BBQ pit? Your opinion is now WORTHLESS! HELL AWAITS!
Gr8 b8 m8, I r8 8/8
Lighter fluid???? 😮
hahaha oh yeah 😈
As a working man with a skill set and a welder. Your all fucked in the head for paying those prices. Your money comes to you far to easily and in plenty.
0:23 please don’t spray petroleum into your BBQ pit 🤦🏼♂️
No
@@AntsBBQCookoutok dude. You’re you’re gonna get shit in EVERY SINGLE VIDEO you post of doing it. Just sayin….save yourself the trouble. Or at least just don’t film it lol
That kind of money shouldn't have those cons
Wednesday I'm posting my video of a goldees offset brisket vs a modded pecos brisket. I think you'll enjoy that one
workhorse pits
they seem great! wish i had one to review
Oh my God I can’t believe you put lighter fluid in the fire box. That’s a barbecue cardinal sin! That’s a barbecue/rookie/Patawan/Green Horn/ trainee mistake!
Hahaha you watch too much youtube man 😂
Jirby from Goldees uses lighter fluid and is the #1 bbq spot in texas. You should tell him he's a rookie.
@@RonaldoRivera4949😂😂😂
@@RonaldoRivera4949next time I’ll see him I will 💪🏽💪🏽💪🏽
Lost me at the Lighter Fluid
😂😂
It’s amazing how biased this “review” is 🤣
Wow $4000+ smoker is really good 😱 impossible!
@@AntsBBQCookout go to bed homie 😆
no u 😉
@@AntsBBQCookout aite playa sleep tight 😴
gn homie🙏
No, just goldies cashing in on their ranking and fame
Really? You lost me in the first 30 seconds with the lighter fluid. Barf…
Oh man.. don't go to Texas then, you'll hate the BBQ 😂😂
@@AntsBBQCookoutI've taken to starting my fire using paper or wood shavings. No fluid smell/taste
By the time you put your food in the cook chamber, the lighter fluid should be Long since burnt off.
@@lindenweng7655 true, and I did it for years but just went for a change and only use it now if I'm doing burgers or chops with charcoal on a grill - not in my smoker
Haha you must be new to BBQ
Amateur move using lighter fluid. Every Texan just shook their head and skipped to another video!
👍 thanks for stopping by
You just contaminated your fire pit with lighter fluid😮 😂 🤢 🤮👎☠️☠️☠️
oh no
Bbq ain’t supposed to be expensive lmfao! I’ve been smoking on a cheap smoker for 30 years! Hipsters and cucks have ruined bbq!
Keep doing what you want, no one's stopping you
@@AntsBBQCookout100%