The rise and fall of the Maya Empire’s most powerful city - Geoffrey E. Braswell

2024 ж. 24 Сәу.
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Trace the rise and fall of the Maya city Chichen Itza, and how Yucatán’s unpredictable environment contributed to its demise.
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During the 8th century CE, warfare and failing agriculture forced Maya people to move north, to hotter, drier Yucatán. Because of its freshwater access, Chichen Itza became the most powerful Maya city, with nearly 50,000 citizens at its height. But the region presented its own challenges and the city's golden age wouldn’t last forever. Geoffrey E. Braswell traces the city's rise and fall.
Lesson by Geoffrey E. Braswell, directed by Hernando Bahamon, Globizco Studios.
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  • A lot of people don't realize that Maya buildings were coated with plaster and highlighted with colorful paints, so I'm glad the animation reflects this history.

    @micahbush5397@micahbush539719 күн бұрын
    • We're just lucky we were able to get the vegetation growth off it. Thank God though the Europeans didn't tear anything down like this. They admired the cultures here, too bad they had a distorted view of admiring them.

      @kaycred3361@kaycred336113 күн бұрын
    • According to my tour guide when I visited this March, they mixed sacrificial blood in with the plaster

      @kaylawilliams8953@kaylawilliams895312 күн бұрын
  • The animation, the narration, the history- everything is perfect! Please gift us more historical videos Ted-Ed!

    @propaghosh3045@propaghosh304519 күн бұрын
    • Yes pls give us a whole bunch of em. I’m a student of History and International Relations and I’m finding the historical videos here on TED-ED very helpful.

      @mbahmicheal47@mbahmicheal4719 күн бұрын
    • Please donate them

      @batman_2004@batman_200417 күн бұрын
    • @@diminikolova if you are a lover of history, we could connect and share perspectives together. What do you think?

      @mbahmicheal47@mbahmicheal4716 күн бұрын
  • As a Mexican I appreciate the great effort and good pronunciation of the narrator, well done!

    @MayaglezPCs@MayaglezPCs19 күн бұрын
    • Mayan history being slowly taken away from Mexico. When the Mecca is in current day Guatemala.

      @gillroygarlic3616@gillroygarlic361618 күн бұрын
    • Question: do people in Mexico pronounce the in Mayan/Nahuatl names as 'sh' or as the Spanish 'j' when speaking Spanish? I'm thinking for small places and topographic names, like Xolotlan

      @RcsN505@RcsN50515 күн бұрын
    • @@RcsN505 Neither, I'm not a linguist so I don't know much about, but we pronounce the X depending of the word as "JS" like in Xochitl or "KS" in Xalisco, similar as the name Xavier in Xmen franchise.

      @MayaglezPCs@MayaglezPCs15 күн бұрын
  • The fact that we get free videos on KZhead by TED-Ed is truly a gift; keeping the education and knowledge alive. 👏👏👏

    @NurseVic-sy5nd@NurseVic-sy5nd19 күн бұрын
    • Agreed.

      @yellowstarproductions6743@yellowstarproductions67438 күн бұрын
  • Mr. Braswell's enunciation does my people proud. Thank you.

    @paillette2010@paillette201019 күн бұрын
    • Braswell’s words + Adrian Dannatt’s narration = absolute gold

      @jrbship@jrbship19 күн бұрын
    • @@jrbship Thank you! And thank you Mr Dannatt! (should have read the credits!)

      @paillette2010@paillette201019 күн бұрын
    • @@paillette2010 👍 it’s a common misconception that the educator/writer also does the narration. Props to the professional voice actors who bring the script to life

      @jrbship@jrbship18 күн бұрын
  • *_"You have to understand the past to understand the present"_* -Carl Sagan

    @The_Observer_god@The_Observer_god19 күн бұрын
    • Yeah, this principle is used in every field of life.

      @anzaklaynimation@anzaklaynimation19 күн бұрын
  • Como Yucateco realmente se agradece el trabajo invertido en esta pieza con contenido documentando la historia de la civilización maya con un excelente estilo artístico muy similar a la maya. Realmente sería muy excelente contar en español y maya la narración y/o subtítulos para poder presentarlo a las comunidades de la península ya que muchas veces desconocen de su propia historia por no contar con el material para verlo en maya y tambien poder preservar parte de la cultura maya que poco a poco se está perdiendo. Gracias. As Yucatenian i really thank you for the work invested on the film documenting the history of maya civilization with an excellent artistic style very similar to the mayas. It would be perfect having spanish and maya narration with subtitiles so it can be shown to communities on the Yucatan peninsula because often they dont even know their own past because they dont have a way of seeing it on maya lenguage and also could preserve part of the maya culture that little by little its fading away. Thank you.

    @ShockCapo@ShockCapo19 күн бұрын
    • Amigo sí tiene subtítulos en español. Entra a configuración del video

      @kuribo25@kuribo259 күн бұрын
  • Good timing. I'm going to Chichen Itza on Monday!

    @MultiDiscoMonkey@MultiDiscoMonkey19 күн бұрын
    • wear a lot of sunscreen and be ready to walk a lot. Also you have to pay twice at the entrance. Go straight to the ticket booth don't let the local guides sell you anything. It is much cheaper buying it directly. They speak English there. Have funn.

      @maresgoez@maresgoez19 күн бұрын
    • Have a nice trip

      @tonnylee5766@tonnylee57666 күн бұрын
  • Thank you for fcusing on Mayan history before the Spanish showed up. The Mayans have a rich history before Europeans showed up and they wrote it down. History is too Eurocentric most of the time.

    @derkaiser420@derkaiser42019 күн бұрын
    • Because Europeans dominated history, kiddo - cry about it 🇪🇸🇫🇷🇬🇷🇮🇹🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿✊🏻

      @zabrak999@zabrak99919 күн бұрын
    • @@zabrak999 Europe did do a lot but so did many nations and empires around the world. The only reason you think Europe was the only, and best one is because of the euro-centric misinformation egotistical rulers and racists have spread

      @vombatidae2667@vombatidae266719 күн бұрын
    • That depends hugely on where you live, if you live in Europe (or the US/Canada where many people have English descendants) then of course history will be taught with a European focus. But history in Africa is taught with an African focus and history in Asia is taught with an Asian focus. And if you live in Cancún then I’m sure you would have learnt all this stuff in history. But it would make very little sense for someone in Japan to learn about this kind of stuff in school (unless they really enjoyed history and learn it on their own).

      @ThePursuitWOD@ThePursuitWOD19 күн бұрын
    • @@zabrak999😂 calm down you never would have conquered anywhere without native peoples

      @user-lg6ij6to4r@user-lg6ij6to4r19 күн бұрын
    • ​@@zabrak999 I bet you thought that was such a clever retort, didn't you? How much have you gone and learnt about non-European history

      @grassytramtracks@grassytramtracks19 күн бұрын
  • Narration and visuals👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    @gagandeepbansal3437@gagandeepbansal343719 күн бұрын
  • Wow It's been a while since I've seen a history video, it’s really informative! 👍

    @SciMinute@SciMinute19 күн бұрын
    • whoever summarized all the history did a great job here

      @MrsJudithWright@MrsJudithWright18 күн бұрын
  • Voiceover is top notch. ❤

    @anzaklaynimation@anzaklaynimation19 күн бұрын
  • I really wish we could've learned more from ancient cultures rather than working to sweep them away just for the sake of greed and ego

    @ThrillSeeker3524@ThrillSeeker352419 күн бұрын
    • Learned from child sacrificers?

      @Sigma_Male_Anti_Female@Sigma_Male_Anti_Female19 күн бұрын
    • ​@@Sigma_Male_Anti_Female Did you by lynching and burning people in a cross?

      @JamesPeach@JamesPeach19 күн бұрын
    • @@Sigma_Male_Anti_Female Spotted the ignoramus history. The Maya were a highly advanced culture, and Europeans also butchered children

      @MimosaGomes@MimosaGomes19 күн бұрын
    • @@Sigma_Male_Anti_Femalewhat are you complaining about?

      @edcrespo1722@edcrespo172217 күн бұрын
    • @@edcrespo1722 What are you talking about? Know nothing of the Aztecs?

      @Sigma_Male_Anti_Female@Sigma_Male_Anti_Female17 күн бұрын
  • The narration and pronunciation in this one is Chef's kiss!

    @AkshayKumarX@AkshayKumarX19 күн бұрын
  • Visuals and voice over are amazing as always

    @wooper2186@wooper218619 күн бұрын
  • The visuals are stunning and I love the narrator's voice. Another informative video!! I love learning about ancient civilizations. It feels surreal that long ago there were thes people who had their language which is either déad or spoken very differently then the original one, the culture and their lives.

    @Sunflowersarepretty@Sunflowersarepretty19 күн бұрын
    • Their language is still spoken today. It is an endangered language. It is a Yucatecan Mayan Language.

      @netzacoatl6327@netzacoatl632719 күн бұрын
  • Funny coincidence: it happened to be, as this video was being released, I was in Cancun. The location of the city is only 2 Hour drive from where I am. very interesting video!

    @amfnyc@amfnyc19 күн бұрын
    • Imagine how many people are within two hours of this location 🤔

      @EnjoyPlantPower@EnjoyPlantPower19 күн бұрын
  • The Feathered Serpent god, also known as Quetzocoatl has gotten so popular, there's a pterosaur named after him!

    @jessicajayes8326@jessicajayes832618 күн бұрын
  • The large cities may be gone, but I’m glad the Mayans in the Yucatán survived, and preserved their food and culture.

    @opwave79@opwave7918 күн бұрын
  • it’s really informative!

    @DoShiAcademy@DoShiAcademy18 күн бұрын
  • Ninth comment! Also I've wanted to see this for ages. Love you Ted ED!

    @alexsbarricades8218@alexsbarricades821819 күн бұрын
  • Amazing work!

    @alpacaofthemountain8760@alpacaofthemountain876017 күн бұрын
  • these animations are sick ❤

    @donnytes8304@donnytes830419 күн бұрын
  • Well the Red Court of Vampires was enacting a massive ritual curse, so Harry Dresden had to intervene. (It's a book reference.)

    @thetux459@thetux45919 күн бұрын
    • Still hate how those books handle non-christian gods

      @MimosaGomes@MimosaGomes19 күн бұрын
  • Masterpiece 👏👏❤❤🔥🔥

    @natheriver8910@natheriver891018 күн бұрын
  • THANK YOU!

    @Passion84GodAlways@Passion84GodAlways19 күн бұрын
  • Thank you!

    @gailaltschwager7377@gailaltschwager737718 күн бұрын
  • More of these stories!

    @kotaowens6978@kotaowens697818 күн бұрын
  • Good video.

    @michaelowino228@michaelowino22819 күн бұрын
  • 365 Stairs equivalent to 365 days. Wow!

    @charlesvillarba8288@charlesvillarba828819 күн бұрын
  • ¡VIVAN LOS MAYAS! ¡VIVA MÉXICO! ¡VIVA LATINOAMÉRICA! SOMOS UN PUEBLO MILENARIO CON UNA HERMOSA HERENCIA PREHISPÁNICA

    @ulfatiazul@ulfatiazul19 күн бұрын
  • Fascinating archeological discovery

    @WAKEupZORRO@WAKEupZORROКүн бұрын
  • Nice

    @josephvaz5238@josephvaz523819 күн бұрын
  • Admirable 💛💚

    @user-bp4nv3qp4d@user-bp4nv3qp4d19 күн бұрын
  • Next video on Kailasa Temple of Elora Caves

    @dipr6408@dipr640814 күн бұрын
  • This is a great basis for a fantasy story.

    @markmunroe-hz8rf@markmunroe-hz8rf19 күн бұрын
  • Hey Ted Ed love your videos but i was wondering if you guys can make an educational video of ear infection it’s fascinating how the ear works and how it suffers thank you.

    @revolz4602@revolz460219 күн бұрын
  • Learn from the past, Understand the present, Prepare for the future.

    @kirbymarchbarcena@kirbymarchbarcena18 күн бұрын
  • Most powerful city is a very BOLD statement.

    @nic558@nic55819 күн бұрын
  • Amazing video! Only caveat in my opinion: "diverse international culture" gets the point across but the term "international" may misleadingly project modern ideas of nationhood into premodern societies.

    @nilslukacs1478@nilslukacs147812 күн бұрын
  • The Mayans were an amazing civilization

    @deleted-something@deleted-something19 күн бұрын
  • I love history

    @someonethatexists46@someonethatexists4619 күн бұрын
  • Always wondered what happened to the Chicken Pizza.

    @thatscrub8351@thatscrub835119 күн бұрын
  • Cool.

    @171QA@171QA16 күн бұрын
  • The more pressing question is: whatever happened to Chechen Pizza?! It used to be a huge restaurant chain but now nobody can even remember it existed!...

    @2nd3rd1st@2nd3rd1st19 күн бұрын
  • Always thought “Chichen Itza” was the cutest name, for some reason 😊

    @Hallows4@Hallows419 күн бұрын
  • Will you be posting this video in your spanish channel? Atte. Una mexicana 🇲🇽

    @carlaconc2411@carlaconc241119 күн бұрын
  • Have I...been pronouncing 'turquoise' wrong all this while...

    @pyroxblaze@pyroxblaze18 күн бұрын
  • Richard Feynman once said that the 10's of 1,000's of books of Mayan civilisation had been reduced down to a mere three. 😳

    @TheMagicLemur@TheMagicLemur16 күн бұрын
  • Unnecessary trivia about me: The first time I saw the word Chichen Itza was on a classmate's T-shirt back on elementary school. I honestly thought it's a word play on chicken pizza 🍕 No offense intended peeps, just little me being silly.

    @damedesuka77@damedesuka7719 күн бұрын
  • cool

    @yenmyyen6114@yenmyyen611415 күн бұрын
  • Woah

    @Kraztiii@Kraztiii19 күн бұрын
  • i know this isnt the point of the video but the fact that sports were considered an important part of religious life/its importance society similar to how it is today makes me really happy- humans are all the same

    @jamiegreenberg8476@jamiegreenberg847619 күн бұрын
  • 0:02 - Carl Sagan, maybe one DOES have to know the past to understand the present, but it's all by way of negative example. To understand where the ev'ils of the present time come from, we have to analyze the past. But if we don't want the future to be equally ev'il as the past or present, we need to see the past and present as what NOT to do, as what to AVOID doing and re-doing.

    @topherthe11th23@topherthe11th2319 күн бұрын
  • Please make a video on the rise and fall of “Great British empire”.

    @anzaklaynimation@anzaklaynimation19 күн бұрын
    • It would just be the British empire. Great Britain is the name of the island that has england wales and scotland

      @arryn786@arryn78619 күн бұрын
    • Yeahh ,I'm curious too

      @diminikolova@diminikolova19 күн бұрын
    • Do you have time for a miniseries? That story takes awhile

      @jrbship@jrbship19 күн бұрын
  • How do you pronounce Chichen Itza, again?

    @ryanburks1314@ryanburks131417 күн бұрын
  • your concern was gold of eldorado

    @auro1986@auro198619 күн бұрын
  • The animation of the setting sun is a bit dodgy for a location on the northern hemisphere.

    @KitagumaIgen@KitagumaIgen17 күн бұрын
  • Cocoa beans as currency? *Sign me up!* 😁

    @kraneiathedancingdryad6333@kraneiathedancingdryad633319 күн бұрын
  • I always love central and south american cultures. The aztecs could of fought off the spanish if they didn't have so many. They messed them up the firts time and spain had to come back with more men Is there a video on Olmec culture.

    @kaycred3361@kaycred336113 күн бұрын
  • When you say it was an international city, people from which other countries were present there?

    @Zlnfgz@Zlnfgz18 күн бұрын
    • Most likely the Aztec, Inca and even Native American. Would be my first guess.

      @gillroygarlic3616@gillroygarlic361618 күн бұрын
  • I’m sorry, but when I very first read the title in the thumbnail, I thought it was going to be about some kind poultry dish 😆

    @rtist9281@rtist928119 күн бұрын
  • Sooo... Chichen Itza's advantage is that it have caverns to preserve water so it could withstand drought, but it's downfall was that it had a drought. And to stop the the drought people through dead bodies into the caverns. Makes sense...

    @TimZarra@TimZarra19 күн бұрын
  • ❤❤❤

    @muhammadisaac07@muhammadisaac073 күн бұрын
  • First!

    @kamalkrishnabaral@kamalkrishnabaral19 күн бұрын
  • Ted Ed should tell us why the mayans and aztecs were so obsessed with human sacrifices

    @JimmmyRaynor@JimmmyRaynor12 күн бұрын
    • Religion and other stuff.

      @BasicNoobs@BasicNoobsКүн бұрын
  • I heard native america history including maya was wiped away by spanish. Am i right? I dont know their history well. is there many record about them?

    @user-go6il2tm4b@user-go6il2tm4b17 күн бұрын
  • Yes it was a beautiful culture although when you have a drought its probably not the best idea to sacrifice people and throw them into your water reserves!

    @miggle1875@miggle187519 күн бұрын
  • How did the mayans know there were 365 days in a year? Its got me thinking idk. Why was their unit for their year the same as a culture across the atlantic? Youd think theyd have their own time keeping units they literally have a calendar.

    @TommyBrittain_tbgaming@TommyBrittain_tbgaming18 күн бұрын
  • Amazing how ancient Romans made 365 days year and so did Mayans

    @stokakrishna@stokakrishna19 күн бұрын
  • No way is the 9th century the Mayan golden age. Literally the end of the civilization. The Mayans from Chichen Itza also were also sorta islander invaders. When they arrived the Mayans really hated them and tried to repel them. Also Mayans didn't have Empires. They had alliances at best but it was more based on tributary and subjugation rather than imperialism. Chichen Itza was so powerful because the rest of Mayan civilization was struggling. It's hard to compare it with Mayan cities just a couple of centuries earlier when we're seeing the heyday of Calakmul and Mutul/Tikal.

    @JDazell@JDazell19 күн бұрын
  • Why is X pronounced as SH?

    @Demetrius900000@Demetrius90000018 күн бұрын
  • The only issue is the beginning. Yucatan is part of North America, not Central America.

    @tecpaocelotl@tecpaocelotl19 күн бұрын
    • Central America is part of North America. “Central America” is simply a region.

      @nic558@nic55819 күн бұрын
    • 😂 what a silly thing to whine about. If you look at the globe it’s literally the CENTER of the continent

      @user-lg6ij6to4r@user-lg6ij6to4r19 күн бұрын
    • Central America and the Caribbean are both geopolitically considered to be a part of North America

      @havenless3551@havenless355115 күн бұрын
    • @@havenless3551 politically yes but geographically they are central

      @user-lg6ij6to4r@user-lg6ij6to4r15 күн бұрын
  • If only cacoa beans were still a form of currency.

    @debbiemoore2747@debbiemoore2747Күн бұрын
  • The Mayan Civilization was never an "Empire" as they did not have a single ruler who ruled over the entire Mayan culture, like the Aztecs. The Mayan civilization were a collection of independent city states each of which had their own independent rulers. This is such a well known fact about the Mayans, I am quite frankly shocked and disappointed that TED-ed, an organization that focuses on education would get this basic historical fact, wrong.

    @SkepticalChris@SkepticalChris4 күн бұрын
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  • The truth behind the Talokan from Wakanda Forever.

    @aryaanimated@aryaanimated13 күн бұрын
  • For a moment there I thought it was a restaurant chain that I'd never heard of.

    @roofpizza1250@roofpizza125019 күн бұрын
  • Please make "The rise and fall of the British Empire" video. 🇬🇧

    @toonwachi600@toonwachi60019 күн бұрын
    • That would be a long video. And technically still happening today

      @jrbship@jrbship19 күн бұрын
  • Ma'alob ts'aa t'aan

    @levi-rj4et@levi-rj4et19 күн бұрын
  • Yeah I love chicken pizza...

    @user-wd2sh6tu3g@user-wd2sh6tu3g19 күн бұрын
  • 21h

    @user-ww6zx3jb9d@user-ww6zx3jb9d18 күн бұрын
  • Winner winner Chichen dinner

    @pan2aja@pan2aja19 күн бұрын
  • Third?

    @jamesicarlos578@jamesicarlos57819 күн бұрын
  • 😮😢😊😮😢😊

    @katherineknapp4370@katherineknapp437017 күн бұрын
  • This is the 131st comment!!!!

    @omkarzarkar1021@omkarzarkar102118 күн бұрын
  • Didn't the Mayan people create city states instead of empires just like the Greeks?

    @ChrisWillem-vl9nv@ChrisWillem-vl9nv3 күн бұрын
  • me when i don't know live

    @JOGOATEDITZ@JOGOATEDITZ19 күн бұрын
  • So sad that colonial language killed native language hope and wish latin Americans open there eyes and start reviving there culture and language like Indians did in India. They didn't learn English and forgot native language and culture. Hinduism.

    @KPZivot@KPZivot18 күн бұрын
  • This guy’s voice sounds like a text to speech AI.

    @angelmartin2243@angelmartin224318 күн бұрын
  • You know whats funny though and kinda bad karma was that mexico citu had to move over because spnaish couldn't keep up with the water like the natives did.

    @kaycred3361@kaycred336113 күн бұрын
  • No one is really going to talk about K'uk'ulkan? Just me? Okay

    @onuzulikekennedy8097@onuzulikekennedy809718 күн бұрын
  • 199th to comment.

    @user-nu7vq6ei5q@user-nu7vq6ei5q13 күн бұрын
  • Why do the depictions of the city show ziggurats poking out the treetops, the way we have discovered the now, centuries after their collapse. With rampant farming, heavy trade, and need of wood and stone, wouldn't they, like all civilisation, have cleared much of the land around the city of dense tree cover? Feels like this is a very superficial depiction using what we see now, rather than what must have existed to support a city (including housing!) of ~50k people...

    @VoidUnderTheSun@VoidUnderTheSun18 күн бұрын
  • 💅💸 tur-KWAZE ✈️💸💵

    @beckyknight8655@beckyknight86554 күн бұрын
  • The mayans were cursed by God for their crimes its Intresting to see their fall

    @AJK17.5@AJK17.57 күн бұрын
  • Maya in Sanskrit means Illusion.

    @SCKar.@SCKar.13 күн бұрын
  • Ipartispshin

    @HussenHerego-zw4mk@HussenHerego-zw4mk17 күн бұрын
  • They lost there NITHRA that what happened... FACT they kept sacrificing human to regain the NITHRA..... FACT

    @hanonomiri@hanonomiri19 күн бұрын
  • it sustained an international community?? LOL from the region you mean?

    @sciencesaves@sciencesaves19 күн бұрын
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