FE 70-200mm F4 Macro G OSS II Lens Review
Sony FE 70-200mm F4 Macro G OSS II Lens Review
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This lens is a Mark 2 version of the 10 year old FE 70-200 F4 G. The new Macro version of this lens features faster linear XD focus motors and a Magnification ratio of 0.5x at all focal lengths. This lens has a magnification ratio of 0.75x when used in APS-C mode or when using an APS-C camera. It has a 1:1 Full Macro capability if the lens is attached to a 2.0x teleconverter.
When using a 2.0x Teleconverter and APS-C mode the lens has a full-frame equivalent angle-of-view of 600mm
The lens is lighter and shorter than the original FE 70-200 F4 G and may present a viable alternative to the larger and heavier telephoto zoom lenses for this looking to travel light.
Start 00:00
Macro Capabilities 2:24
Size and Weight 14:28
Lens Features 16:35
Competing lenses 18:45
Cropability (crop to zoom beyond 200) 23:07
Reach (is 200mm enough zoom) 26:15
15-07-202329:56
Fast AF 31:38
Is F4 wide enough? 34:10
Higher ISO and Noise 35:21
F4 Background Blur 36:53
The F4 Advantage (conclusion) 39:40
High Resolution Image Gallery :
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This was one of the best lens reviews I've ever seen on KZhead. Outstanding job!
Glad you think so!
Amazing review Mark. As always you did a wonderful job.
Thanks for you positive feedback 🙂
Ok, I'm sold... This lens will be the perfect addition to my 20-70 f4 G for everything around my trips and hikes. What an excellent review! Thx!
Good choice!
Excellent review! The 0.5 macro throughout the zoom range along with stability makes it a standout and very versatile lens. On the sony R5 one can crop even more & with the added stability more handheld flexibility becomes possible. For travel it is an ideal lens - from architecture to landscape to semi macro detail. Add to it customization buttons.
Couldn't agree more!
Tbh being able to use the 2x converter ... That alone is a big stepup to the old one.
That in conjunction with the higher resolution sensors of modern cameras gives us a lot more reach.
I bought this exact setup because of your video😊 20-70G + 70-200G with Pilot 7L I still have room for the ZV-1 ii in case I need something wider indoors.
Very nice!
Awesome review! Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
Decided to order the 70-200 G II. It will be one of my two travel lenses along with the 20-70 G lens. I already have a 1.4x teleconverter which I'm very pleased with on the 70-200 GM II. I might also try the 2x teleconverter although I haven't shot much macro in the past. Thanks for your excellent review.
Good choice - 20-280mm with two lenses is a useful range
@@AlphaCreativeSkills I should have mentioned that I will have a body on each lens.
@@PhotoTrekr You went with the full Mark Galer travel setup. I wish I could justify having both the GM and G of the 70-200.
Amazing results at 0.5 X macro!! I want this lens.
I have now been shooting on location in Bali with this lens for one month and I have to put it into my top 10 lenses of all time.
thanks for the review of this very interesting lens, there is only a little typo in the comparison sheet, the tamron 70-180, which I have, has 0.5 times magnification at 70mm and in manual focus, if I remember well, because I don't use it much....
Thanks for the info!
Great video, as usual. Some of the information you provide in your videos on top of the usual specs and opinions (like the usage of noise reduction software to offset additional noise, adjusting ones technique to achieve nice background separation even with F4 etc.) make them cut above IMO. Being a hobbyist and a student I always appreciated that. Regarding the lens it would be interesting to see MTF chart and how it compares with the original 70-200 F4. Is the sharpness of this lens significantly improved over the original?
The original lens was pretty sharp but this may be tad sharper. Sony have made MTF charts available but they have changed the line pairs they used to use 10 years ago.
@@AlphaCreativeSkills Thank you very much
Brilliant review Mark, and to me looks like a brilliant lens. Couple that lens with the 1.4 Tele converter on a A7CR would be brilliant, and compliment the 35F1.4 and 55 F1.8 (Zeiss) Sony lenses only leaves me short in the 20mm range to have a great kit. So do I do the Sony 20mm F1.8 or the Sony 20-70F4 lens to complete ….so hard to decide.
I am still using this lens - long after this review. Check out my recent work at a Political Rally : flic.kr/s/aHBqjBbR8Y I own and use the FE 20-70F4 G for those times I don't want to be changing lenses and the 20mm F1.8 for the times I don't mind changing lenses. I think the FE 20-70 F4 G should have been awarded lens of the year for 2023. Having a standard zoom that also covers a very wide 20mm angle of view, and also has an exceptionally close focusing distance, makes this an extremely versatile lens. I help photographers make difficult lens choices on my Patreon.com/markgaler support channel.
Interesting that you focused on size and weight so much. That is one of the things that draws me towards this lens. My goto lens pair when walking is the 24-105 and 100-400 with the A7RV. Shifting to the 20-70 and 70-200 would save over 800grams. As I get older this becomes more important. Add the field ability to do macro without taking an extra lens. Sony have got a winner here imo.
… yes, but the 100-400 is such an amazing lens, even in APSC mode and in combination with the TC. 🤷🏼♂️
I will attempt to shed weight everywhere - this extends to tripod heads, tripods, filters, camera bags etc etc - even shedding a couple of ounces on a single item is important when you possibly have more than 10 items in your bag. I never check luggage, so even my clothes are lightweight and dry overnight when washed.
Weight is the exact reason that I am seriously considering changing from Tamron 17-28, 35-150 to 20-70G, and 70-200 G2 with tc 1.4, which gives me more reach. May consider adding 14mm GM for star photography, which I always like to do.
Hey Mark, thanks as always for your great reviews with real photos and going over the technical details with samples. Those make your videos always so much more enjoyable than most of the "influencer" style videos out there. I have a suggestion though, it would be great if you would upgrade your audio. The microphone of your headset is not only pretty bad sounding, the plosives are also making some harsh plop sounds here as you were too close with the mic to your mouth. It is hard to listen to the whole video. I'm coming from a sound engineers point of view, so I always pay more attention to these things than others, but it was especially annyoing here. Just a minor suggestion though to make your awesome videos even better. Have a great day and thanks again! Might get this lovely lens.
I was using a new microphone and was due to catch a plane to Bali in just a few hours time - so it is what it is I am afraid. The levels of the new mic were much quieter than my old microphone so I chose (unwisely) to move it closer to my mouth. I have to use a headset microphone with noise cancelling as I have to record my videos in a normal room rather than a sound studio. There is, sadly, not much profit in putting these videos out - especially when I invest in extended shoots to showcase the products.
Thanks for this comprehensive review. I shoot family portraits & chasing small children running around, for candids. I now use the 1st version of this lens, but I could see where the close-up capabilities would help. Plus it could be more versatile for travel. Is this lens noticeably sharper than the original?
The original was pretty sharp but this is sharper. The Teleconverter compatibility is a biggie
@@AlphaCreativeSkills Thanks!
Thanks once again Mark for full review...i was considering the FE 100-400 primarily for my landscape photography...do you think using a x2 teleconverter will still render the same image quality. Cheers Brian.
The 100-400 is most likely to be sharper than the 70-200 with 2.0x Teleconverter at 400mm but I have yet to do a side-by-side comparison
@@AlphaCreativeSkills Thanks a lot Mark, much appreciated 🙂
@@briannicholson2971 If you are going to be using the 200-400mm range a lot then go for the 100-400mm. I have the 70-200 GM2 and the 2x teleconverter and I don't use the teleconverter unless I need to because cropping looks sharper most of the time.
Nice review Mark looks a great lens, but stil Sony should think about a good all in one lens... like a new version of the 24-240mm, maybe a 24-240mm II f4 OSS G lens a little less heavy, sharper and a closer focus distance? any thoughts? thanks Mark greets from the Netherlands📸
I have a lens wish list video tutorial and also a lens choice video tutorial and I offer personal support guidance on Patreon.com/markgaler
Mark Galer delivers. There is an incroyable amount of information disponible here in clear format. Do I need all this info? Possible. I admire the depth of Mark's knowledge and the amount of trouble he goes through to get it all organised and presented. I probably Patreon him again. But this time you did not fool me to buy yet another lens I'll hardly ever use.
Thanks for the positive feedback 👍🙂
Thanks Mark for this excellent review!! Does the 70-200 GM ii fits in the 7L bag same way as this lens? I have similar setup as you and want to carry 35mm GM with a7c and a 70-200 with another camera.
You have to detach the camera with the GMll or use the larger 10L
Thanks!! Really appreciate it!
OK, I was confused ! Then there IS a cooperation between IBIS AND OSS ! Thanks ! I find the lens to be very good , by the way. I am recently thinking of buying the 200-600 also.
Happy to help!
Great video, I am really interested in this comparing to the Tamron. The price difference is quite big but there are some really compelling features on the sony. Just need to figure out if I can justify the price...
No Lens Stabilisation would be a deal breaker for me on a telephoto lens as IBIS is not enough at the longer focal lengths. Is the Teleconverter compatibility, faster AF and sharper images worth the extra money - this would be a personal decision that I can’t make for others.
@@AlphaCreativeSkills Fair point, though my current main tele workhorse(an A-mount 70-400G v1) also do not have OSS and with monopod gets ok results for things like motorsports(since circa Sony A700), but I think the thought of the short min-focus distance is really appealing to me for things like toy model diorama or something, and having macro capability with tele on hand for traveling is really cool. Thanks again for the video, I've viewed so many of them for research for lenses before. Please keep up the good work
@@racingmaniacgt1 When I moved up to high resolution bodies I noticed that I had to increase my shutter speed to achieve critical sharpness. OSS allows me to speed up my shutter speed about the same amount as going from f4 to f2.8 when working at the telephoto range.
Dear Mark, so far so good but I' am not sure which combo to buy - I' am just deciding which combination I do prefer: the 5 years old 70-200 mm f2.8 gm i with the 2.0 Teleconverter or the new bundle f4 II + 2.0 Teleconverter -; both combos have identical prices nowadays in Europe, but more important for me is the sharpness and contrast in shooting cityscapes and architecture in general. At the moment, I use fixed focal length to get best results. But with a zoom i get more compositions with only one lens with me. Thx for answering. The new f2.8 is too expensive for me ... Cheers Peter
My choice is the newer F4 with 1.4x Tele as the MK1 70-200 is a little soft with the 2x tele
@@AlphaCreativeSkills thx Mark I bought it last Thursday, many thanks for answering. Greets Peter
The new one with 2.0 teleconverter
Mark, your video reviews are always so insightful. Did you notice any less sharpness from the new Gii against the 70-200 GMii (which i already own)? Seems like go for the former for lightness, macro and to save money, or the latter if F2.8 if essential. Any other advantages of the GMii?
I have heard one reviewer making negative comments based on some shockingly poor photos captured- I posted ultra high definition images (links in info section) so users can click to zoom in. I also prepared a separate album with images captured at the long telephoto focal lengths to show the lens is perfectly sharp (as one would expect from a late model Sony lens). www.flickr.com/gp/markgaler/63X1s5c2x1
Hello Mark, very nice video. I'm just in trouble between this and 70-200 f/2.8 GMII. Weight difference is not much and not an issue. Dimension and price are in favour of f/4 version. I use it for outdoor sports, and sometimes but most rarely for indoor spor (artistic skate), on my a7r3.(sometimes iso goes very high indoor). How is the sharpness and contrast of this f4 G2 in comparison to the GM2? I've also in plan to buy tc 1.4x in future (but only for outdoor use). What you suggest me?
Have you checked the link in the Info section to view ultra high-definition examples captured with this lens? I offer my Patrons on Patreon.com/markgaler the option to download Raw DNG files for the F4 macro and F2.8 GM lenses + images captured using the 1.4x Teleconverter.
Mark, I would want to add an Arca Swiss foot to this lens to replace the factory tripod collar to match my tripods. This looks like a different tripod attachment than the f2.8 70-200 GM II, where there there are many aftermarket Arca Swiss foot options( RRS, Wimberly, Leofoto, etc). For this new lens, are there aftermarket options for the collar, or would I need to add an Arca Swiss plate to the bottom of the factory tripod collar(adding to weight modestly)?
At this time I have added a Leofoto arca Swiss plate to the foot. It is exceptionally light.
Thanks for the review. Since the cost of this new lens (i.e. FE 70-200mm F4 Macro G OSS II) & FE 70-200mm F2.8 GM OSS is almost the same, so I'm curious which one performs better? is it worth buying FE 70-200mm F2.8 GM OSS mark 1 instead? your thoughts please....
The original 70-200 F2.8 GM is a larger, heavier and slower focusing lens without the close-up capabilities of this new Macro. If size, weight, speed of focus and macro are not important to your own workflows you could consider the GM lens with a wider maximum aperture.
@@AlphaCreativeSkills thank you!
I returned my 70-200 f4 G because of the non-linear MF. Im glad they addressed that.
This isn’t always a deal breaker for me, but then I often have different priorities to others.
@@AlphaCreativeSkills I didn’t know it was a deal breaker for me either until i tried to capture bugs in my backyard and got frustrated when manual focusing. Now they also added the macro capabilities so im super excited to try that one more time.
I also really like the Full Time DMF where you can manually nudge focus in AF-C and let the AF take over again when it knows where the bug is.
Hi Mark. As a birder, I'm curious about how much penalty you pay with regards to IQ with the 2X tele converter as compared to the 1.4X. Also, I'm not sure I completely understand the 900mm FF equivalent number. Correct me if I'm wrong, but as I understand it you are adding a 2x tc to get 400mm and then the APSC crop to get 600mm and then a 4K crop in post to get you to the final 900mm + or -. Is that right?
You pay a slightly greater penalty with the 2.0x tele over the 1.4x tele + your ISO is going to double with the 2 stop loss of light compared to the 1.0 stop with the 1.4x. I always prefer to crop in post before even considering using either tele. I only reach for the Tele when my subject is less than a 1/4 of the size of my frame in APS-C mode when using a 50 or 60 megapixel sensor. A 2.5x post production crop (compared to a 1.5x APS-C mode crop) applied to a 600mm lens equals 1500mm before you even factor in the teleconverter. I am happy to provide you with further guidance on my Alpha support channel: Patreon.com/markgaler
@@AlphaCreativeSkills Thank you. as I suspected
I forgot to tell you that both camera and lens is updated to the latest version of firmware according to the shop where I bought it and also did the update , the versions are : Body: ILCE-7RMA Ver. 1.10 Lens: ver.02
Get the lens serviced as maybe there is damaged contact.
I don't get it - IS or IS the 70-200 mark 2 with or without this feature ??? I found this: My Sony FE 4.5-5.6/70-300 G OSS lens has a switch on the barrel marked "Optical Steady Shot: On/Off" My A7R4A has an option of turning IBIS (in body image stabilization) on and off. Question: When IBIS (in body image stabilization) is turned on, should the Optical Steady Shot switch on the lens barrel be turned on or off? Note: I have seen statements to the effect that IBIS and lens stabilization should not be used together. Does this apply to the A7R4A ? They work together. Here is the explanation from Sony. ”If you are using a lens with the Optical SteadyShot™ (OSS) feature, then the In Body Image Stabilization (IBIS) or SteadyShot selection of the camera will be unavailable. When both the camera and lens have the feature, the lens stabilization overrides the menu system of the camera and the systems work in conjunction with each other to provide a 5-axis stabilization system. If you connect a lens that does not have the SteadyShot feature or turn off the feature on a lens that does, then the feature selection is available within the camera menu and the camera.”
I have several SteadyShot video tutorials to explain IBIS and OSS. When an OSS switch is found the on the lens the options greyed out in the camera means ...but IBIS is still working in conjunction with OSS
Can it shoot an with the 2x tele converter? I don't fully understand the macro ratio yet and I see other macro review that can shoot bugs with their hair showing, but highest macro lens should be 1:1 which is this 70-200 with that 2X tele converter but I haven't see or remember anyone showing any macro with their hair and eyes showing with this lens. I want to get this lens to shoot macro and tele, pair with a 16-35 f4 power zoom or 20-70mm (thanks for showing its macro capability!) but most likely will get the 16-35 to get more coverage (originally I thought to just get the 20-70 which will be one lens to cover a lot but it will not be ultrawide and tele enough so I thought to get these 2 lens instead, I want to support such ultrawide to tele lens but maybe we haven't get to a point to able to have 16-200 in one lens with 1:1 macro yet), do you think these are good enough? Is the ttartisan tilt shift 100mm f2.8 macro lens better?
16-200 may not be possible with a full frame lens if it was to be both affordable and lightweight. It may be possible with a cropped sensor in my lifetime but I am not going to hold my breath.
Mark, today I've watched more than a dozen reviews of this new lens. Yours is, by far, the most informative. Thank you! I'm considering replacing both a Sony 90mm Macro and a Sony 70-350mm. I already have both the 1.4 TC and the 2X TC. I'm shooting on an A7RIVa. Would this be a smart change? Is the image quality of the new 70-200 F4 substantially better than the image quality of those other lenses? Any other observations or suggestions? Thank you again.
Thanks - I always say that seeing is all the proof you need - I have posted ultra high definition images to my Flickr pro account - view on a large 4K screen and zoom in. That's all the information you need to make your decision. Forget the MTF charts and technical jargon. I personally will now use this Macro zoom over the E 70-350 for most of my work and carry the 1.4x Tele when I need a bit more reach.
@@AlphaCreativeSkills Thank you so much, Mark!
@@AlphaCreativeSkills Mark, I just reviewed the photos you posted on your Flicker pro account for both the 70-350 and the 70-200. You aren't kidding when you say seeing is all the proof you need. I'll order this lens through your link tomorrow. Thanks again! You're the best!
Hi Mark, what does the phrase “nor point” mean?
At what point in the movie did I say it?
If you had to pick the 70-200 F4 G II or the 70-200 F2.8 GM II, which one would it be? Price is not a concern. I am leaning more toward this new lens for the versatility.
I travel a lot so would pick the smaller and lighter lens
It depends how important f2.8 is to you. With the size and weight difference between the two you could add another prime lens to your bag. I replaced a couple lenses with the 70-200mm GM2 so I ended up saving weight in my bag. Having used it for quite a while now, I could see this new 70-200mm f4 G covering all the same bases except for portraits. So, I would end up wanting to bring the Sigma 85mm f1.4 if I had the f4 70-200mm.
I use the Sony 90mm macro primarily for the macro. I also have the new 70-200 f2.8 mark 2. I rarely find the need to carry both at once. How does the 70-200 f4 compare with the 90mm macro capabilities? That’s a comparison I’d be very interested in seeing.
The new 70-200 could be as sharp as the 90mm Macro (we will need to wait for independent MTF charts to be sure, or you could just zoom in on the review images I have shared).
I should have added that the AF speed of the zoom is probably 10 times faster than the 90mm Macro and the bokeh is better.
@@AlphaCreativeSkills I will never get rid of the 90mm Macro Lens. I actually focus manually when doing very close close-up photography. I don't rely on AF in those cases. It's such an easy lens to use where the zoom will be more cumbersome. But if heading out, traveling and not shooting bugs, etc., in my backyard, this lens is the ticket. I already have the 9 years old 70-200 f4.0 which is fine for what I use it for. I just can't justify spending more for a lens that covers the exact focal range. Besides, I love the internal zooming and really dislike lens that extend. All that grinding going on inside bothers me. As an aside, I have the Sigma 24-70 Art and it also satisfies my macro needs. It comes down to $$$. I'm waiting for the arrival of the a6700, which I will put to a lot of use.
I am using the fast AF to shoot flying insects and I am currently hearing no 'grinding noises' as the lens has an absolutely silent operation.
I seriously would have spent an extra grand just for the macro and a 2.8. I wonder if that will be the next upgrade for a 70-200 2.8 mark 3? 🤔
I’m pretty sure the Tamron 70-180 2.8 is 0.5x magnification at 70mm (manual focus) not 180mm.
If that is the case it would be more useful at the 180mm focal length rather than the shorter focal length. I am mostly using the Sony lens at 200mm for photographing insects visiting flowers.
Would the new 70-200 f/4 GM mark with a teleconverter be a better investment than the older Sony 100-400 GM?
The 100-400 GM is a great lens so will likely have the edge compared to using a 70-200 with 2x converter. I provide ultra HD examples in all my lens reviews so users can discern the quality with, and without, teleconverters. I also make Raw files available to my Patrons on Patreon.com/markgaler. Seeing is believing - nobody should need to take the word of a reviewer or influencer.
Is it worth getting this lens for the a6700 over the Sony 70-350 f/4.5-6.3 G OSS? I am debating between those two.
They are both good choices - you just have to decide between wider aperture + Macro vs longer reach. I can offer detailed guidance on my Patreon.com/MarkGaler support channel. I can't tell you the best choice until I know more about you and what your priorities are.
I was really hoping Sony would be able to make it as compact and light as the Canon's counterpart... 46g lighter than mk1? It seems that Sony didn't really try too hard to make it lighter. Also, no aperture ring is a big minus, too.
They could have, but they'd have to give up TC compatibility. They simply made a choice to add TC compatibility instead of more size savings.
@@WestVillage-vv3hg Perhaps... How come they didn't include an aperture ring? It's a G lens after all. 1699USD is also a huge increase over the old version. Canon charges 1499 for their f4.
Agreed. With the lightweight primes Sony have created recently I was hoping for lighter than Canon. As it is, it’s not enough weight saving over the GMii, though it is much more compact. Worse is the missing aperture ring. Having an aperture ring frees a dial up on the camera, but as soon as you have one lens that doesn’t have an aperture ring that becomes more problematic. I don’t think I’ll be swapping the GM for this lens as the weight saving isn’t enough and I want the aperture ring.
You are forgetting the Macro capability with quad linear XD focus motors- They could have made it as light as the Canon without the Macro capability. The fact that I can get into my medium sized messenger bag with the camera attached is an achievement that is still worth having.
@@AlphaCreativeSkills I think a lot of people were waiting for the lightest 70-200 f4 ever made, especially having seen the 20-70 f4, which is a very light and compact lens. I'm sure there will be some buyers, but at this price point, and for what it offers, it probably won't be a bestseller. I guess at some point Sony will have to revise the price and bring it down to 1499. Hopefully, Tamron will be coming up with an updated version of their 70-180, which will probably be lighter than the current version. Sure, we lose 20mm on the long end, but it's a faster lens that can compete against the GM.
How is the sharpness when using with 2X teleconverter?
I post ultra high-definition examples - check out the link in the Info section below the video. I generally let viewers make up their own minds as to whether a lens is sharp enough for their needs.
Can I use this macro lens for wildlife Safari photos and videos? Or which lens is good for wildlife
Yes
I would get add a 2x teleconverter and a high resolution body for that use case.
¿Do you recommend 1.4x or 2x teleconverter?
I recommend both (for different reasons) but use the 1.4x more often than the 2.0x
for product video which Lens Better Sony 90mm or Sony 70-200m G II , I have already 90mm and i will buy 70-200mm GII for Travel and documantry and i want know that i need sell this lens or not
I wouldn't want to compare these two lenses other than they have Macro written on the barrel. The zoom has blazingly fast AF while the prime is one of Sony's slowest focusing lenses but does have 1:1 Macro capability without teleconverters or cropping tighter.
Thank you so much. I liked the explanation in the video very much, i will buy the Lens with the teleconverters X2 , My camera is Sony A7SIII no problem with hight iso. @@AlphaCreativeSkills
Can this lens work on the Nikon D850? Is it compatible
With adapters, but I have not used them as I am a Sony Ambassador
@@AlphaCreativeSkills Hi, thank you so much for replying.
I have a question, or actually 2 questions that I don't get an answer to from sony's support: One concerns what kind of variant of JPEG - "algorithm" is used for the images directly out of the camera. I always use the largest file format and best quality. According to a list, there are DIFFERENT variants where the quality has increased for each variety. The second issue concerns images of objects that are turquoise and especially turquoise that goes in the green direction where the camera makes them bright blue instead. If you raise the color temperature to insanely high numbers such as 8000 -9900 Kelvis, the object is rendered with the correct color tone, but then everything else becomes completely crazy instead. No one has raised this problem on youtube!
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… got the new 70-200 G II last week. Now thinking about to get the TC 2.0 for macro work. is it worth the money, wenn shooting under good light situations? 🤔
Depends how much macro you need - you can start by just cropping tighter in post
Do you think some consumers who have the 2.8GM feel ripped off by Sony..in the sense that this F4 has that "Macro capabilities"..and that Sony should have put this in the 2.8 first..especially for the price point that the 2.8GM cost..you would think this is and should be in the lens..rather than an F4..that cost less..now you have to consider have a choice or losing a stop of light and getting that "macro capability", especially well for wedding photographers..detail shots..etc..and lesser price point as well..or would you people still consider the 2.8GM?
The 70-200 GMll was a fantastic update with an excellent close focusing distance. The development of this Macro would only have started after the GMll was released.
I have heard from several reviewers on youtube, i.a. that if you have a Sony FE 70-200mm F2.8 GM OSS II with OSS = built-in stabilization in the lens, this MUST COOPERATE with that in the camera = IBIS. But I get this message: !Lens Invalid with this lens. Perform the action on the lens if the lens has a SteadyShot switch. How should I interpret this? Is it a "bug" in the firmware? Is the information about collaboration between the two just nonsense? Now when everyone reviews the new 70-200 f4 macro it sounds the same: They work together, BOTH US in the lens AND IBIS in the camera work together. Listen. ".... and I saw very little difference between the lens using both OSS and IBIS and the lens relying on just the IBIS..." So: What about that thing? Does anyone really KNOW how it works? Grateful for answers ! There must be a REASON for the message I get on the camera display. Either I have been misled to believe that OSS+IBIS = TRUE or I have misunderstood everything.
Start by updating the firmware of your camera to ensue maximum compatibility- most reviewers guess what they don’t know. IBIS and OSS work together when using Sony lenses ..and yes I can tell the difference. Follow me on KZhead and/or my Patreon support channel for accurate information.
Sony should have just updated the 90mm Macro to a GM spec with new motors etc.
Absolutely agree to you 😊
Maybe they will, but the 10-year old F4 G got the love first.
How do you perfect perfection. That lens is a legend. It's so sharp it splits air.
70-200 would be fine with Alpha 1 FirmwareUpate, or A1 II
It’s worth noting that a firmware update can’t deliver a Subject Recognition AI processor which is a hardware and not firmware driven feature. Firmware could deliver the focus bracketing + breathing compensation (that this lens doesn’t have a problem with).
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Thanks for visiting my review first :-)
I have heard from several reviewers on youtube, i.a. that if you have a Sony FE 70-200mm F2.8 GM OSS II with OSS = built-in stabilization in the lens, this MUST COOPERATE with that in the camera = IBIS. But I get this message: !Lens Invalid with this lens. Perform the action on the lens if the lens has a SteadyShot switch. How should I interpret this? Is it a "bug" in the firmware? Is the information about collaboration between the two just nonsense? Now when everyone reviews the new 70-200 f4 macro it sounds the same: They work together, BOTH US in the lens AND IBIS in the camera work together. Listen. ".... and I saw very little difference between the lens using both OSS and IBIS and the lens relying on just the IBIS..." So: What about that thing? Does anyone really KNOW how it works? Grateful for answers ! There must be a REASON for the message I get on the camera display. Either I have been misled to believe that OSS+IBIS = TRUE or I have misunderstood everything.
Start by updating the firmware of your camera to ensue maximum compatibility- most reviewers guess what they don’t know. IBIS and OSS work together when using Sony lenses ..and yes I can tell the difference. Follow me on KZhead and/or my Patreon support channel for accurate information.