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Timecodes
0:00 - Intro
0:50 - Vaxee XE Wireless
6:14 - Atlantis Mini
10:24 - Conclusion
in less than half a year, Lamzu listened to community feedback about a wish for a mini version of the Atlantis and delivered it in that amount of time, and with little to no QC issues
Very impressive.
And no one is buying. Lol
@@hmbmaniak4464 No one is buying, that's how they were able to put into production an entirely new ergo mouse, mouse pad, and mini version of the original. Make it make sense guy.
@@hmbmaniak4464 the Atlantis was one of the most hyped and popular mice of last year. You even paying attention?
Small companies tend to have more passion. Unfortunately, as companies become successful they generally lose the passion for a more business driven ideology as they grow
I’m gonna say this now. The Lamzu Atlantis Mini has demolished Finalmouse and the Starlight 12. It’s a cheaper and surprisingly better mouse and Lamzu listens to the community and does it fast.
Cheers to Fresh for the reviews and Vaxee's first wireless! Starting off 2023 with a bang 🎆
ayyyy!
This is just what I needed to hear about the Atlantis Mini. Need to cop it soon
Great overview, Freshy. Wasn't aware of those mice until your video. Can't wait until your reviews drop!
I have the wired Vaxee XE and also thought man it’s just a nicer feel compared to the superlight even with several mods done to the superlight. It’s tough to say now as I’ve started to slowly condense my mouse collection but it’s truly tempting to go wireless on the vaxee or wait for the ec2w haha
I've ordered the xe wireless before watching this video. Glad it's good, from the shape and specs I figured I would like it. I was super happy with the GPW but after 3+ years started with double click issue. There's only so much you can improve, I think sensors are great already, not sure if 4k/8k will be worth if it comes with a significant reduction in battery. Interested on see how the market evolves this year.
The wired XE was so good that I sold my entire collection and just put the cable in a bungee. Ordered the wireless XE in white in the first 5 minutes it was available. Vaxee knows what they are doing and it shows.
Facts !
@refreagged what settings do u have? LOD/debounce/ motion/high etc?
I’ve been sooo hyped for the lamzu mini and I cannot wait! If I had larger hands I’d try the vaxxee xe wireless but my mini hands make that difficult 🤣
Great review! I have a question, how would you compare the XE against the Harpe regarding shape and sensor implementation?
Iam super hyped for the outset. Vaxee just makes sooo good shapes.
Waiting for the rvu mini wireless know fresh gonna come in clutch with that review
The vaxee is stepping it up in competitive world!Good job!
Great video, my Atlantis mini will be here in a few days. I was going to go for XE wireless but as an FK2 enjoyer I heard it might be too big for my 17.5 x 10.5 hands.
Awesome info thanks! What would you recommend for someone who loves the XM1r? Also love the GPX so tempted to try the Vaxee out
Xe for sure or grab the xm2we
@@FreshReviewsYT Thank you! Will do 🫡
I finally ordered the Lamzu atlantis mini, i have the original but i feel like its way to big for me so im gonna try out the mini one, i have 16x10cm hands and play relaxed claw/palm grip and as of right now my hands fits perfectly well with the Starlight pro Tenz, i bought my lamzu at the MaxGaming site since its sold out on the lamzu site, im just hoping that they include the glass skates on it since i have glass skates on both my old Lamzu and my starlight tenz.
I wonder if you've tried the Sora, and if so, which felt better to hold, the Mini or the Sora to you ? great video btw!
Spot on about the OG Atlantis being uncomfortable with ring finger placement. My Mini was delivered today and I'm psyched to give it a run!
How is the sensor placement on the XE compared to the GPX? On the GPX I really like how the sensor is more towards the front compared to other mice. When it is farther back I feel a bit less control
I'm so impressed with the XE. I ignored it at first because they straight said it's their first mouse for gaming + work, not just gaming/aim focused. But typically Vaxee the shape is fantastic anyway so of course you can hit nasty shots with it. Aspas from Valorant team Loud uses it (in orange). Or maybe he just has some emails to get done between rounds 😁
Sheeet man, I'm keen on the XE but I'm torn on going for that or waiting for the XM2w and NP-O1 wireless releases
The xm2we feels really nice. I do prefer the xe shape now.
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Hi! Would you recommend the Vaxee XE to a hand size of 19.5 x 11 cm? If i remember correctly you had a bigger hand of 21 cm but I don't remember that you mentioned the width. My usual problem with the mice is not the lenght but the width of them. My pinky starts to cramp easily if the mouse is too thin and I have no place for the pinky to hold. It seems XE is a bit wider mouse so it might be a good choice?
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Atlantis mini sounds exactly what I am looking for. 19x10cm aggressive claw and prefer smaller mice, should arrive monday. Stoked, going to be my first mouse since i bought an orochi around its launch! Had a medium x2 but returned due to click issues and it was too blocky for me.
so how's your experience so far
@@VicBayolo really positive. great mouse
orochi v3 with 55gr and chargeable battery 😢😢😢😢
Need that dornfinger destroyer first look when you get the chance fresh 🙏
I haven't seen you reviewing any of the newer gwolves hsk pro or htx.. htx looks killer and the pro does aswell
Can't wait for the Lamzu Thorn
Nice review dude! I've held off on getting the Atlantis until the mini was released but I have to say I am more excited about the Vaxee mice. The NP-01s is one of my favoutite mice. I found the GPX a little too potato for me so might just have to get myself a Vaxee XE
Dude I’m so pressed that they don’t have any plans to release an NP01s wireless any time soon
@@potion95 lately their twitter's been saying np-01s and ax wireless versions are coming in q2 so let's see if they're pulling through
@@Uncircuited are you sure it’s the NP01s and not the regular Np01? I know they are releasing that one but idc because it’s too big for me.
@@potion95 they did say that np-01s was the first shape, followed by the outset and THEN the np-01
@@Uncircuited NO WAYYY SICKK
I want to try a vaxee shape but the xm1r felt too big for my hands which is about 17x9 off the top of my head maybe 17x8.5.
with 16x9 hands I can't wait for the black Atlantis mini since with the OG it's a bit too big where I can't grip it properly with my pinky when clawing ever so slightly
Man.. I'm addicted to mice. Got the xlite wireless. Loved the shape but hated how the slotted shell felt. Got a lamzu atlantis. I don't play well with it due to shape. Just got a DAV3 and I love the shape, hate the tiny skates. Those big skates on the vaxee look interesting!
@FreshReviews could you maybe do quick hand size info in your mouse reviews? Like some text on the screen so you don't have to repeat that info all the time. I always appreciate that info when people talk about their picks for favorite shape.
Would you still recommend the Atlantis mini for 6 inches by 4 inches hand size for a claw and finger tip grip?
i noticed same thing with myself, i have way better stability and tracking with bigger mice. now am bouncing between mm711 and makalu67 in halo infinite. while i can do good with both considering they are drastically diffrent shapes i noticed the makalu 67 size just gives that locked in stability and way better tracking might be because i am more of an arm aimer at 41.5cm 360 i am comfortable with both big n small mice but all the big mice from the past gave me the best overall consistency, the small mice i find give a good phantom point for precision weapons
Makalu is such an underrated mouse. Top choice
Hey Fresh, great review as always. Maining Atlantis OG atm but wondering what your opinion is on the XE shape compared to S2? I've always really liked that shape. Is it similar? Feels bigger/smaller?
Feels bigger than an s2
I just preorder the new ec2 wireless I got a nice size collection like you but something about that ergo shape I can’t get away from
What mousepad are you mainly using rn in terms of consistency?
I just returned my XE wireless on the 14-day mark.. I hate to say this and i never thought that i would but i just think it feels too "Heavy" for me now after maining an Xlite for so long. It did not hinder me ingame but just the overall feel of the weight made it less fun to use imo. I also had some trouble with that coating, it makes the hand so darn hot and i had some really annoying grinding when tracking with mouse 2 pressed down.. Might give the Medium x2 a go and/or maybe the Atlantis mini aswell.
I can't wait to get the Vaxee Xe wireless. I also really like the shape. Weight doesn't bother me much.
You will like it
I believe the Atlantis Mini is using the new Huano Transparent Shell Pink Dot, they are supposed to be lighter.
Oh right, I forgot about that. So far, they feel extremely similar to the OG, but on my copy TBH ever so slightly heavier / poppier
@@FreshReviewsYT i think that since the clicker design is different, switches will need to be lighter to feel similar. I.e. if you shorten the lever, the switches become harder to activate and so you need lower force switches.
Thanks for your review and especially the comparison towards vaxee. Im a big Vaxee fan, when they released their first mouse, the np01, it was a insta-buy for me and while the np01 is too big for me, i find it very impressive. The build quality is just top notch and in my opinion never reached by another brand- maybe endgame gear is close, but not exactly on a par. Im totaly into light weight, thats why i didnt buy another Vaxee mouse. I understand and respect their philosophy, but in my dreams at one day they come off with a more light weight-ish mouse. Currently im very curious about the atlantis mini and think about buying it. In the past, i had the problem of missclicking the sidebuttons when i used small mice, so it would be interesting for me, how high from the baseplate the sidebuttons are. It would be awesome if you could measure the height of the side buttons, that would be nice to know for me. Best regards
I don’t have chunky thumbs in terms of width. But I am able to grip it with no accidental miss clicks. They’re in a much better position than something like the hsk
@@FreshReviewsYT Hi, thanks for your quick reply. I think my thumbs are relatively similar to yours, so that sounds good. I don't know the HSK, but the Atlantis mini has similar dimensions to the mm710 - although a different form factor. With the mm710 I regularly misclicked the side buttons, but I think that was due to the shape of the buttons themselves and the fact that they triggered relatively smoothly, rather than the position.
What mice did you main in your past?
Can you share your thoughts comparing katana superlight vs vaxee xe purely shape wise. I know katana superlight is little bigger but hows the in hand feel. Also are you planning to review gwolves htx in near future. Thanks for the review!
I didn’t know the htx was for sale. but I can take a look
Thanks for the review. You use only high speed mode or high speed mod with motion sync? And why?
I like sync on and high performance on. Feels good to me
i have the lamzu mini and i will say, initially straight out of the box i loved the mouse, instantly became a new main... however i have one very big issue. the quality control is just not there for me personally to recommend to friends unless they are just mouse nerds. For me my scroll wheel is just straight out of wack, its twisted sideways and as an inconsistent tension while like this, at first I didn't really care but now its really put me off because its also not registering all of the scroll inputs. its not noticeable under normal use but on apex when im trying to practice or just do zipline movement tech half the time it wont register enough inputs that i need for superjumps, mantlejumps, etc. its infuriating. I haven't tried reaching out for warranty, i might do that now, but id prefer to not have to warranty the mouse for such a simple qc issue and i know many other people have had issues with qc as well.
Damn! Could always try an encoder swap with SilentG
@fresh Reviews lamzu mini battery life ?
I feel like on ON days i am slaying with small mice. I still love the FM Tenz Mini. But when im not having one of this days then on average im better with bigger mice. I can wrap it up: when im on fire small, if i want consistency bigger. Can´t wait for the new shape of pulsar. i hope they bring the optical swithces everywhere now.
I agree with this and feel the same way tbh
Nice review!! 👏 Guys i need some help finding a good witeless ergo mice. I was looking the Pulsar Xlite V2 but if you has some recommendations i'll be appreciated! 🙏
That’s a solid option
Thank you very much for reply my friend! 🙏
Are you going to be reviewing the G-Wolves HTX Ace? It's a wireless 36g plastic mouse with a very similar shape to the Starlight-12 small.
Yes I might
@@FreshReviewsYT Alright cool. I just picked up the Atlantis Mini 2 hours ago and it's sold out. I was hesitating to cancel the Atlantis Mini order just to get the HTX. It's just that there are barely any reviews on it so I decided against it.
How different does the Atlantis mini feel compared to the m42 with the low hump? They look somewhat similar at a glance.
very different
Love you fresh 🫶
much love!!!!!!!!!!
I missed the vaxee launch by about 5 minutes, and the black model won't be restocked until maybe March. Bummer, never tried a mouse from that company. I try to sample about everything... Outside of Logitech... Blech.
hey fresh, which out of the 3 would you recommend for me? 17.7 x 8.8 relaxed claw Sora, MM712, Altantis Mini or an X2?
Atlantis mini or x2
Fresh usually what is your dpi sens in apex?
800 - 1.5
i beg you do a setup tour it looks so cleaaaaan
thanks brother, haha. I still have construction going on. We are almost done!
@@FreshReviewsYT OOOOO cannot waiiitttt
2 months later do you still prefer the Vaxee XE over the Lamzu mini, GPro SL and X2? Ive tried only the Lamzu mini and GPro SL. Lamzu mini i think it might be too narrow and G Pro SL is possibly too wide. I have a hybrid fingertip/claw grip @ 18x10 hands and click more towards the back of my mice. Would you recommend the x2 mini, x2 med, or Vaxee xe?
I like both the x2 medium and xe
Hows the black XE coating compared to like the orange one? Really curious if the black/white is same coating as the colored ones
Sorry, I actually can’t remember how my orange one felt
Do you have in plans to do review of Endgame gear XM2we ?
For sure
That screenshot playing against 3D… respect
Thanks brother. Real ones know
Hey can you please give some idea of the width of the mouse at gripping point, as compared to other popular small mice, viper mini, starlight small, etc. Thanks
Maybe somewhat similar width to the viper ultimate. But take that with a grain of salt. I have not compared them side by side
I am so glad I’m not the only person feeling that companies are trying to hard to chase the lighter weight. I feel the best “lightweight” for a mouse is around that 70-80g mark. It’s nice to hear from a top reviewer also. Awesome your on the XE wireless now.
Thanks brother
70G is still too heavy, 40-50g is the sweet spot IMO.
@@JtwasLuck everyone has their preferences I guess.
@@JtwasLuck 40-50g isn’t a sweet spot at all that’s extremely light. 60-70 is more of the sweet spot for most gamers. The G pro x is mid 60s and that’s more than light enough
@@GeordieChap It is definitely personal preferences at the end of the day, but if you use a mouse that weighs around that ballpark, its hard to go back to anything heavier. The lighter, the better, that's just basic physics. However some people are definitely better off with heavier mice, ie. people with shaky aim.
My Atlantis Mini just came in and I noticed some creaking/pre-travel with the scroll wheel. Did you experience this with your unit?
No, none
For the Atlantis mini does it have the same coating as the OG? or same as the black version of the OG? Was gonna wait for a black variant just to hopefully get the same black coating
I’m fairly certain the white is uncoated like the Og white
@@FreshReviewsYT ah man alright thanks for clarifying. The uncoated og was slippery for my hands and I'd sweat so much I'd leave rings on it LMAO. I'll wait for the black coated one. Thanks!
is the vaxee xe shape somewhat an in between of the gpx and atlantis?
mmmm kind of sort of, but a bit more size related to the GPX - different feel though of course
Hi i would like to ask one more thing. Does the lamzu atlantis mini perform claw grip better than the og?
For me it does! The Og is just a bit too wide for claw for me
@@FreshReviewsYT thank you btw what is your hand size so i know what to decide?
Can I ask you a question? Claw grip, 17.5 × 10cm hand size. Lamzu OG or Lamzu mini which one shoud i use? Is the OG too big for me? I'm worried that mini is small for me.
I’d say Mini. Only you know you tho
I have seen many compare the atlantis mini with this mod of SL12 small. Which of the two mice do you prefer?
I wouldn’t compare them at all. Atlantis mini
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Is there going to be a video talking about the Xenns Top?
I have one
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since there's no software for the XE wireless, what DPI settings are available? lol all my logitech mice I've set to 1000dpi and seems like most mice (without software) skips 1000dpi.
400 800 1600 3200
Which of these mice have lighter clicks overall? currently main dav3 pro but I play Leauge of legends and experience a lot of fatigue spam clicking so need to get something with the lightest clicks possible
The Vaxee has pretty light feeling clicks
Will they produce Outset wireless next or the NP-01s?
Not sure!
loving the xm2we, although I'm 8 months deep on my xm2w's preorder LOL. Are you planning on getting xm2we/xm2w?
Are you still using the XE as a main?
Thanks Fresh! Can't wait to get the XE wireless! Waiting for those alt colors though (I want pink or blue). So happy that endgamegear, Vaxee, and Zowie are finally going wireless!
Love Vaxee shapes
Which mouse should I get if I have medium to smaller hands and mainly play Valorant with a claw/relaxed claw
Tough call. There are many great mice. Pulsar x2 small is a nice option
Do you think the Sora can compete with the Atlantis Mini or are they much different?
Much different.
I main the Vaxee XE wired and never looked back at my Viper V2 Pro. Weight is a industry meme.
ya anything 69-80g is good enough for me. I start to be more inconsistent in mobas games under 60g. Weight balance matters a lot too.
I have problem with the Atlantis mini. If I put the ptfe skates below the mouse. As I glide from left to right, the sensor somehow gradually drags the mouse cursor down. I don’t know how to fix it. But no problem with no skates on
Odd. Not quite sure?
Hey, whats your hand size? Would be very useful to know! Thanks! 😊
Just around 21.5 in length
is the standard mode with the xe wireless good for competitive gaming? i dont wanna charge it every few days
Yes. The implementation is good across the board. I don’t mind the charge so I went for HP mode
@@FreshReviewsYT did you turn off Motion Sync after turning on the HP mode?
Do u think the mini lamzu is more superior than the original? I currently main the starlight med im interested in it
I like it over the original size
Im interested at relax clawing the mouse do u think it is perfect?
Or do u think i should get the xe instead?
For the XE, what settings do you prefer. Is there a big difference between the high performance mode vs. Mouse sync or with both on being worse as vaxee mentioned in their intro video?
it is very similar, but I have just gone the recommended route with high perf on and sync off
i love the xe wireless but for either very dry or very sweaty hands the coating is slippy af and you basiclly need grip tape aslong you dont have slightly wet hands while palying
Pulsar has new universal grip tape. Quite good
How are the stock mouse feet on the Vaxee XE? Would appreciate a response! Thank you fresh
not bad!!! but I am replacing mine with BTL skates from lethal
Which one of these mice would you say is most similar to a zowie s2?
Not really either of them, but I’d say the xe is closer to the overall size
Bruce lee X2 mini vs Atlantis mini? Which is better and which has more spammable clicks?
I prefer the shape of the Atlantis. The Atlantis also has more spammable clicks
Cant decide between the atlantis mini and the x2 mini, any advice?
All I can say is both are pretty great lol. If you want a safer shape, probably the x2 mini
Hey so I have like 18 x 9.5cm and I do a palm/claw grip on a RVM. Im having a lot of trouble trying to decide if I should get the lamzu atlantis, the mini ver of that, vaxee xe, or even the pulsar x2. I haven't tried many other shapes besides the GPX, which I liked but felt big on. Does anyone have any thoughts?
If you palm the viper mini I’d say Atlantis mini or pulsar x2 mini.
@@FreshReviewsYT Thanks man! Love your reviews btw!
I couldn't agree with you any more in regards to the weight and the light weight meta/perception, sure people will have a preference in weights but to say they can't use a heavier mouse and it's a down grade over a light weight mouse simply haven't given a heavier mouse a long enough go because shape is king and the sensor implementation is far more important then a light weight mouse just because it's lighter.. if the mouse frags out for you regardless of weight let it be and keep using that in game performance 👍
What sens are you playing at on Apex Legends in these clips?
1.5 800
@@FreshReviewsYT Same as me, but that's prob where the comparison of the quality of our mouse aim ends! Thank you for the prompt response, appreciate it.
Do you have the motion latency on with high performance mode for the XE?
I have high performance ON and motion sync ON. Feels great
@@FreshReviewsYT Awesome thank you! Just purchased after watching your video!
@@FreshReviewsYT Also do you feel a need to use corepads or glass skates on the XE?
did you actually mention the weight of the XE? Cause i think i missed it.
76g
I received a dav3 yesterday, with the receiver, the 4khz receiver I didn't even pay for it thanks to a series of discounts, I'm finding it well, I hope that other smaller companies will also be able to reach razer's level because in the tag shooter I notice a big difference between dav3 and example a g pro superlight, so people will have more choice.. if i can this year i would like to try m2s/m3k by zaunkoenig
DAV3 mini could easily be my endgame, ive tried the DAV3 and its a little too big for my smaller sized hands. Not unusable but i main the outset ax. Which in bulkiness is about the same but the deathadder is 128mm vs ax 117.4 in length, which is quite the difference. Just waiting for vaxee to release the wireless ax in q2 to be my endgame.
XE is more comparable with the Pulsefire Haste in terms of shape than G Pro. This would be much better comparison since Haste 2 comes out early this year as well.
It feels more like the sensei ten to me than haste
@@georgepierre3594 sensei is wider and longer while maintaining same height. larger mouse overall thats on the flatter side.
what is your debouce time, cause I set it to 2ms and it's very easy to activate the slam click
Which mouse
@@FreshReviewsYT for the Vaxee xe wireless
In late 2023 would you still recommend the XE wireless Fresh?
For sure
@@FreshReviewsYT awesome I think I’ll finally order one this week & try it out!
waiting for my mini, aaaaand now i want an xe lol
Does XE have smaller feet options? Because those are fucking massive and I really dislike mousefeet that big. They make pads feel muddier/slower. I noticed it first on the fat gpx front skate. Vs za13-c mouse feet, both corepadz. Gpx felt significantly muddier, especially on cloth but was also noticable on skypad. The extra surface area causes more friction, and also causes a vacuum seal on skypad which gives it more grip.
Not too sure! But the surface area is so big you could probably find smaller skates to fit in the slots
i like that their similar to the superlight., makes the glide feel similar