What if the Pittsburgh Penguins never hired Ron Hextall? #nhl #pittsburghpenguins #hockey #sidneycrosby
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@thejinqstarАй бұрын
I never understood Hextall’s tenure with the pens until I discovered that he was working a second job all throughout. Did you know he was simultaneously employed as Gritty all along?
@WhatsHappeningHockeyАй бұрын
@@WhatsHappeningHockeysee your take in this is bad, hextall being forced to resign Malkin and Letang has done all the damage to this team, there’s a thing called a salary cap and when two old players who aren’t producing to make up for their lack of defence take up 16% of your cap space. Suddenly all these “2 year extensions for the likes of Carter aren’t too bad cause they are only 2 years. Not 6 years for a 35 year old small injury prone defencemen or 4 years for a 36 year old Russian forward. Those contracts deserve hate cause they are awful, his moves for 3rd and 4th liners mean nothing when you are trading your 1st round pick every year for a decade prior. In the salary cap world you need cheap young talent. Just cause Sid’s nickname is the kid doesn’t mean he’s a kid anymore. Kyle Dumbass will do more damage to this team than Ron Hextall could’ve ever done in a decade. The Karlsson trade and Alex Nylander given away for nothing are already your first signs of Dubas ineptitude. Have fun.
@bingboone9474Ай бұрын
Dude he killed the flyers too. What are you talking about. He just sucks.
@BANGITSME87Ай бұрын
@@BANGITSME87 it ain’t that deep lil bro it was just a joke
@thejinqstarАй бұрын
I call bullcrap because he was also terrible a s a flyers GM. Also, I'm sure ownership had a role in trying to keep the window open even though it was obvious a rebuild was necessary
@PhandephillyАй бұрын
Nobody will ever convince me that he wasn't under cover for the Flyers. Ain't no way!
@LeDardeursPalaceАй бұрын
Lol he ruined them too. Hiring Hakstoll because he coached his son, refused to bring up Hart and drafted Nolan Patrick over Makar just to name a few of his bonehead moves
@johnnyrocken8818Ай бұрын
Always said he was a saboteur...
@chizoramaАй бұрын
What's Dubas's excuse then?
@ozzymandias7649Ай бұрын
@@johnnyrocken8818No one would have taken Makar over Patrick.
@rona6063Ай бұрын
Patrick was the lock pick that year over half the league had him top 3 on their lists Who knew 😊
@aaronpysher9354Ай бұрын
I think it was revenge for all the times Mario beat him like a rented mule
@mroy88Ай бұрын
Hate that expression 🤬🤬🤬
@imakeituptoyou29 күн бұрын
Kinda destroyed the Flyers too. Man, he must hate Pennsylvania.
@keithball6480Ай бұрын
How can Hextall be an undercover agent for the Flyers when he destroyed the flyers before he went on to the Penguins😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅Hextall is an awful GM
@leokeesic3657Ай бұрын
I'm not sure Philly or Pittsburgh should hire each other's alumni.
@stevencooke645129 күн бұрын
@@stevencooke6451 you would have to take Mario's back to back cups then. That was Flyers management 😳
@leokeesic365729 күн бұрын
tell Hextall your comment, but replace “awful GM” with “awful goalie who can’t keep me out of his crease” and watch that man magically David Blaine summon a Sher-Wood outta thin air.
@604eign28 күн бұрын
@@604eign you mean choke master Hackstall
@leokeesic365728 күн бұрын
Flyers Fan: I was glad when he went to Pitt from Philly because we knew he would destroy the Pens like he did with the Flyers! According to Bobby Clarke, it was Hextall who insisted on taking Nolan Patrick over Cale Makar. The entire scouting staff knew the obvious, but Hextall overruled them. Worst draft decision in history
@gw7477Ай бұрын
Lmao.
@Furrina89Ай бұрын
Please note Ron’s boss was Brian Burke who also destroyed the Maple Laffs.
@Landis_Grant28 күн бұрын
The Fenway Sports Group prevented Burke and Hextall from trading dinosaurs Letang and Malkin.
@Landis_Grant28 күн бұрын
@@Landis_Grantas they should, no city and team will just discard 2 HOFers who helped win the city 3 cups and 15 straight playoff runs. If we trade them sid also certainly wants out, you see how unhappy he was when jake got traded, imagine how he would’ve felt when his 2 best friends and career long teammates were traded a few years after winning a cup, this isn’t gm mode kid
@Odysseus707024 күн бұрын
Why in the world would we draft a clown like him?
@highdesertbiker21 күн бұрын
Protecting Carter, Kapanen and Blueger over McCann will never not be funny
@brennanschaufert4076Ай бұрын
Well.. who even is mcann 😂
@johannespitkamaki1369Ай бұрын
@@johannespitkamaki1369scored 40 for Seattle last year
@brennanschaufert4076Ай бұрын
@@johannespitkamaki1369 I can’t tell if this is serious or not
@WhatsHappeningHockeyАй бұрын
@@johannespitkamaki1369Captain of the Seattle Kraken
@Cthylla417Ай бұрын
Carter needed to be protected because he had a NTC no?
@DarkLobster69Ай бұрын
Sullivan still being behind the bench is complete insanity
@bradjones9784Ай бұрын
He gets zero blame. Obviously should get some heat for running the exact same systems that haven't worked for the past 3 seasons. No adjustments despite different personel.
@rubberneckinc.893729 күн бұрын
@@rubberneckinc.8937 the most glaring this to me is that nearly every player brought in from outside the organization plays worse here and most play better when they leave. Karlsson scored 100 points on a dog shit Sharks team last season and looks like he will get 53-55 at best this season. Graves now looks like he doesn't belong in the NHL.
@bradjones978429 күн бұрын
@@bradjones9784He certainly doesn't allow creativity. That's probably why young players aren't given a chance under him
@TANMAN8428 күн бұрын
@@rubberneckinc.8937He is to blame. He keeps trying to play a "fast game" with 30 year olds who skate in cement since Hextall traded all the fast players. The Isl's and Rangers make the Pens look like statues.
@mattcampbell477726 күн бұрын
@@mattcampbell4777 I blame Sullivan for some of it. He should have been let go during this season. It's the same story as last year for the Pens right? He may not pick the guys but he made the same results. You can fire a Cup winning coach.
@rubberneckinc.893726 күн бұрын
Kyle Dubas: hold my beer
@shaggyfrankdizzlАй бұрын
rutherford made a pens 2 in vancouver with all our ex players
@wandacircus1667Ай бұрын
as a caps fan i want the pens to be competitive hockey is better when caps and pens are at their best going head to head
@mattycyt5973Ай бұрын
This generation doesnt fully understand how good they had it, not only did they get to see the big 3 in pittsburgh, we got to see Ovi, We got to see Sid vs Ovi in the play offs. 2 generational players at the top of their game going head to head in the play offs. My generation never had the chance to see 66 vs 99 when it meant something. You may never see anything like that again in the NHL.
@superstar1660229 күн бұрын
I’ll never forgive Hextall for protecting Carter over McCann. Haunts me to this day
@propaks8241Ай бұрын
As a Leafs fan I'll never forgive Kyle Dubas for protecting Alex Kerfoot over McCann
@wizzerwiser2056Ай бұрын
@@wizzerwiser2056 but the Leafs didn't protect Kerfoot, you protected Justin Holl, then traded essentially nothing for the guy who lost in the expansion draft so you wouldn't lose a roster player like Kerfoot. You guys could've traded for McCann and kept him and lost Kerfoot, but instead kept the same team and lost a minor leaguer, which is still great
@erikthered967026 күн бұрын
Winner of the Mike Milbury Award
@luvslogistics1725Ай бұрын
Underrated comment there. He doesn't touch Mike though because somehow Milbury kept his job longer
@rubberneckinc.893729 күн бұрын
When Mario lost interest in the team and FSG took over, that was it. We had an amazing run, rivaled only by Edmonton as far as expansion teams go. Can't blame Mario, he has his life to live and already went above and beyond for the Pens
@skippy675Ай бұрын
Very well put. He saved our team from becoming the Kitchener Blackberries. Im from KW, so I wouldnt mind that, but then the team was going to go to Hamilton. That I would not stand for.
@_upandadam_Ай бұрын
Mario didnt lose interest just knew when it was time to get out
@patientmental87529 күн бұрын
The Devils in the 90s and 2000s were better teams and consistently beat the Penguins like a red headed stepchild
@josephmcauley760529 күн бұрын
@josephmcauley7605 Devils have less championships than Pittsburgh or Edmonton, thus an inferior franchise.
@skippy67529 күн бұрын
@@josephmcauley7605 The Devils were better in 91-92-93-96-08 & 09?
@patientmental87529 күн бұрын
You briefly mentioned it at the end but some of it has to go on Sullivan. Unable to get a spark from guys and when they leave, a new coach gets them into a role where they succeed. Is it to for Sully to hit the road with the recent failures and struggles of the team?
@JStark98Ай бұрын
Imo Sullivan is just as to blame for failing to recognize the depth players at his disposal. What separates the good coaches from the great is their ability to form good 3rd/4th lines. Not every coach gets the luxury to set and forget Crosby at 1C every night. John Cooper’s run in Tampa is a great example of how properly utilizing depth players can elevate a team
@brennanschaufert4076Ай бұрын
I could’ve gone into way more depth with Sullivan too. Some of his traits that helped the Penguins to championships have been noticeably absent in recent seasons. When Sully took over in late 2015, he saw great potential in the players he worked with in Wilkes Barre. Bryan Rust, Tom Kuhnackl and Connor Sheary were all injected into the NHL lineup with trust. They had room to make errors and 100% did, but Sully stuck with his gut and let them find their way. The following year he did the same thing with Guentzel (though his impact was much more immediate). In recent seasons Sullivan’s patience for youth has been little to non-existent. Developing players barely get a shot in the NHL. They have incredibly short leashes. This isnt to discredit the fact that the pens’ pool of youth has gotten increasingly shallow. But so has Sullivan’s judgement (see his repeated decision to start Jeff Carter at centre in overtime situations, only to remove him from the ice immediately after the draw) Dominik Simon, Scott Wilson and Josh Archibald are also examples of younger players he really liked. He used them repeatedly in the twenty-teens. But these guys never found proper success with other franchises, with fewer tools in their respective boxes. Was that because Sullivan understood them and was able to milk more out of their games? Or was it blind trust based on a brief history in the AHL? Regardless, Sully has not given young players the same opportunities in recent seasons. His patience is short. He makes his mind up on how a player should be utilized incredibly quick. It’s rare that they’re able to break from that mould.
@WhatsHappeningHockeyАй бұрын
@@WhatsHappeningHockey exactly, Sullivan in 2016 seems like the complete opposite coach as he is now, then he was creative with lines and utilized those young guys in the best position to succeed (with Crosby) and wasn't afraid to make adjustments especially with goalies, past 2018 he's been worse every year, puts all his faith in whoever the starting goalie was no matter how much better the backup played (first Murray then Jarry) and now doesn't make any adjustments at all, same lines every game, with the occasional scratching of a young 4th liner because he gave the puck away once
@erikthered967026 күн бұрын
Ron Hextall was a Flyers in heart. Period. So when he gets installed in bloody state rival Penguins, yeah undercover work is all we need to understand. Hextall: "My lord (Flyers GM) our plans are working. We have ruined our greatest rivals dominance and slowly we have grown terrible! Lord GM: "Excellent, your deep loyalty shall be rewarded soon!"
@WarioSaysSoАй бұрын
The current GM is Danny Briere, and as fan since his playing days, this is blatant slander.
@Furrina89Ай бұрын
Dubas will continue to carry Hextal's torch
@Beep-Boop101Ай бұрын
he’s done a fine job so far
@Odysseus707024 күн бұрын
Funny draft picks by Hextall in Philly were an omen he'd destroy the Pens. 2017 Hextall drafts bust Nolan Patrick over Cale Makar and Elias Pettersson. 2014 Hextall drafts Travis Sanheim over David Pasternak. 2015 Hextall drafts Ivan Provorov over Mikko Rantanen , Kyle Connor, Zach Werenski, Barzal, etc. In 2016 Hex drafted German Rubstov over Tage Thompson. Basically the Flyers could have drafted Cale Makar, David Pasternak, Tage Thompson and Mikko Rantanen but Hextall was HEXXING! Nothing personal Pen's fans.
@1pbdecoded1pbАй бұрын
I was super lucky I great up watching the Lemieux Jagr Francis era and then the Crosby Malkin Letang era, we have been spoils as pens fan. Having said that the auto-sabotage by Hextall is on another level, maybe we would not get cups but we would have a team that could compete and make the playoffs. Now it's time to take the path of the LA Kings or the Bruins where a retool is possible by doing smart moves, let's see what the holds or let the dark ages begin
@Dimas.79Ай бұрын
Hopefully they haven’t run out of time for the retool, need to see Crosby and Co get another crack at the cup
@brennanschaufert4076Ай бұрын
Peter Chiarelli was 10x worse than Hextall. But yeah, Hextall was still real bad.
@JT-gi8rx26 күн бұрын
Grew up a Pens fan in the 90s, too. Funny, I have such a soft spot for those early 2000s teams and players. JS Aubin, Dick Tarnstrom, Michel Oullet, Rico Fata, Konstantin Koltsov, talk about dark ages. But you knew they were going to lose. They were out there trying their best. It's far harder to stomach this iteration of the Pens, even if this dark age is less dark.
@chrisg773125 күн бұрын
As a sharks fan I’d like to thank Hextall for all his fine work.
@papanojohns651029 күн бұрын
wow hextall really only started in 2021? i thought he was there for like a decade with all the damage he did..
@user-pg5sz2vn1wАй бұрын
He did a decade's worth of damage, so there's that.
@chizoramaАй бұрын
HaHa. He was here in Philly killing the Flyers for way longer than that. You really should have kept him around for 5 to 8 seasons to see what damage he could really do.
@rubberneckinc.893729 күн бұрын
As a pens fan this video hurts but it’s so very true. He ruined the twilight years of sids career
@michaelwilson9798Ай бұрын
The dark ages were the late 90's early 2000s. The years where Kris Beech was their best forward and defenseman Dick Tarnstrum lead the team in scoring. Not there yet, but the ship needs a new course or they will be soon.
@shaneimler9328Ай бұрын
Steve McKenna was an alternate captain... 😂😂 Nuff said.
@chrisonydotcom2317Ай бұрын
He destroyed the flyers and i was sooooo happy when the penguins hired him because i knew he was going to destroy them too 😂
@animus13racer29 күн бұрын
Hextall playin the long game - making sure to finally destroy the Pens in favor of his beloved Flyers.
@MrJayehawkАй бұрын
Think thats nonsense Nobody is trying to be unsuccessful by design Also as Flyers GM he did mistakes Taking Nolan Patrick when Heiskanen,Makar etc. available Different contracts or the way how he dealt with Voracek Crosby needs to leave for a Canadian team what can win the cup
@goenzoy712Ай бұрын
@@goenzoy712no. Go. Away.
@GunGoBangАй бұрын
He was awful with the Flyers too, this is a lazy and stupid take. Flyers fans hate this dude now.
@BANGITSME87Ай бұрын
I'm amazed that people don't understand sarcasm.
@MrJayehawkАй бұрын
@@MrJayehawkthey do, but Flyers fans hate him just as much.
@Furrina89Ай бұрын
It is amazing to me how two men could completely dismantle a hockey club and so many of the players they let go of, are now playing great for their respective teams.
@jeffthewhiffАй бұрын
He did the same thing to the Flyers and then Chuck Fletcher took over right after and it got even worse😂😂😂
@cmz584728 күн бұрын
As a Stars fan, and more of a baseball (Texas Rangers) addict, I see your pain. And it recalls the entire San Diego Chargers debacle, with owner Alex Spanos. HE played the long game, even paying for the state of the art pre-season training facilities for his beloved San Fran Niners - while forcing the team he owns, San Diego, to train at older, underwhelming public spaces. Spanos de$ired prime televi$ion money, and wanted the NFL to allow him to move to Lo$ Angele$ or Vega$ - and got his wish decades later. I hope your Pens, especially your top trio (Crosby, Malkin, Letang), don't have to suffer other seasons than 2023-24.
@timmholl9238Ай бұрын
Ian Cole was traded by Jim Rutherford to Ottawa for Derrick Brassard ahead of the 2018 playoffs. I will never forgive him for that. Cole was a huge part of beating the Caps the previous two seasons and the Pens have won one playoff series since that trade. I'm not saying it was only losing Cole that caused their downfall, but they didn't need a third line center over someone who could hit and block shots the way Cole could.
@chrisg773125 күн бұрын
As a leaf’s fan I’m sorry you guys have Kyle dubas
@francescoravenda5070Ай бұрын
Kyle Dubas: hold my beer
@shaggyfrankdizzlАй бұрын
lol u clowns don't deserve him. shanny is calling all the shots for that shit show anyways.
@user-pg5sz2vn1wАй бұрын
As a Penguins fan I can tell you that any intelligence in our fanbase gets drowned out by bandwagoners and fellow yinzers who only tune in after Football season and only if the Penguins are good. An intelligent fanbase would have been screaming for Hextall's head after the expansion fiasco, just like an intelligent fanbase would call for Dubas's head after the Karlsson and Graves deals.
@ozzymandias7649Ай бұрын
I'm not they were stupid enough to hire him. Half of those guys Hextall let go, Dubus signed them in Toronto only to let them go as well.
@Silentnarcotic28 күн бұрын
@@ozzymandias7649 you're right, it was obvious Hextall had no clue what he was doing from his history with Philly, he was simply the sit in GM while they were trying to sell the team, he should have been gone immediately after the season ended and before the expansion draft, or as soon as the ownership found out his protection list. Dubas has come in and immediately shown how clueless he is as well by immediately putting all his faith in three 36 year olds and a coach who hasn't made a line change or won a playoff series in 5 years. Karlsson trade was good for us on paper (moving several overpaid players in their mid 30s for a superstar) but obviously wasn't going to turn the team around.
@erikthered967026 күн бұрын
Alex Nylander has done amazing things in Columbus. Now it's the Jackets...they suck. So he looks like a first line player due to their lack of depth and injuries. Still...can't believe he didn't get a chance in Pittsburgh
@doomslayerdaveАй бұрын
How many games did he play on the Pens roster?
@TANMAN8428 күн бұрын
"Dubas is on clean up duty". Tough to say when his first move is getting EK....
@TimmyThomas153226 күн бұрын
I wonder if Hextall's dedication to keep Kapanen had anything to do with his father? Probably a stretch, but Sami played a few years in Philly with Hextall in management
@Dev300028 күн бұрын
People say the Karlson trade was bad, but dumping those bad contracts alone was worth the 1st round pick. Give Dubas time.
@evanwalker4672Ай бұрын
Ah yes, the give Dubas time excuse. Dubas is a fraud. His track record speaks for itself. He makes a "splash" signing a big name high priced player for a position that the team doesn't need. Then he grasps for straws and makes excuses and asks for patience. He's incompetent and should be treated as such. Don't give him time, put the heat on him, hold him accountable, then you'll see how useless he really is. This team needed to be faster, younger, like the Caps have done, Dubas brings in Karlsson and Eller, what a joke.
@shaggyfrankdizzlАй бұрын
Time for what dude? Look at what he did in Toronto, he just handcuffed himself in Pittsburgh just like he did with the Tavares signing
@patrickkirkhamАй бұрын
What a stupid statement. You didn't dump those contracts for a first if you ended up taking on an equally garbage contract.
@ozzymandias7649Ай бұрын
@@ozzymandias7649 thank you, we were all thinking it when we read the original comment. Zero brainpower at work here. Karlsson is overpriced, overrated, and his contract is practically impossible to move.
@shaggyfrankdizzlАй бұрын
Not if its the #11 overall pick. San Jose and even Montreal have come out far ahead in this trade.
@WillMunyАй бұрын
Haha. And now they have Dubas. I look forward to your coverage of his failure coming down the pipe.
@rogerkniffen3670Ай бұрын
10:01 Was Granlund acquired for a 3rd round pick, as you state, or a 2nd round pick, as stated in the screen grab?
@humanbeing2420Ай бұрын
Wasnt reading my script, just speaking off the tip of my tongue. Misspoke and applied the zoom effect to put emphasis on my error! It was a second rounder unfortunately lol
@WhatsHappeningHockeyАй бұрын
Legit quality content man you deserve more subs!
@TBCnucksfan29 күн бұрын
Thanks brother. Much appreciated.
@WhatsHappeningHockey29 күн бұрын
Hextall destroyed Philly . What did Management expect ? Duh .
@hemihead001Ай бұрын
And now you have Kyle Dubas doing the same.
@wizzerwiser2056Ай бұрын
@@wizzerwiser2056he has not even been remotely close to as bad as hextall was
@Odysseus707024 күн бұрын
Give him time
@wizzerwiser205624 күн бұрын
And you wondered why we all laughed in Philly when they hired him. Now that he's done this, we love Ron all over again! Just stay off Broad St!
@MrAndrewCreech29 күн бұрын
Penguins will get nowhere with a coach that is incapable of giving young players a chance. That’s how the NHL evolves. Young players develop.
@TheEskimeauxАй бұрын
Pittsburgh has been plagued by bad gm’s Rutherford and dubass also really messed up more than they fixed
@ernie8401Ай бұрын
You have always have an eye on the future. Sometimes that means having the ability to trade away fan favorites for pics while they still have value. It's tough - especially with the draft lottery crapshoot.
@mystreteacher26 күн бұрын
This video was so frustrating to watch. You’re right in every way too
@jarredbell2471Ай бұрын
Decline started with Burke, grew with Hextal, and blew up with the beantown bean counters taking over.
@Topshelf87Ай бұрын
I never understood why on Earth we put a f'n Flyer in the front office 🤮
@wolfmaulerАй бұрын
Great video. This needed to be talked about
@TANMAN8428 күн бұрын
Hextall did this to the Flyers also. Flyers are finally getting better and recovered after Hextall era
@timothyberner9229 күн бұрын
Hextall still has that flyers dual loyalty
@jimbeanz21929 күн бұрын
Excellent analysis
@andrew7196Ай бұрын
Very similar to the end of the Doug Wilson era in San Jose. The quicker you can identify you’re in a rebuild phase the better. San Jose wasted 2 seasons thinking they just needed to make a few tweaks to the roster and they’d be right back to making the playoffs.
@MrVisdeАй бұрын
Stan Bowman has left the chat.
@fubartotale338928 күн бұрын
Hextall drove the nail into the coffin and Dufus will is clinching it!😂
@boomer104929 күн бұрын
It's years of trading 1sts to win in the moment even prior to Hextall. Search who's made it since 2013 2013 had Guentzel/Jarry If you go back prior to that Despres,Bennett,Morrow,Pouliot. After 2013 Addison,Blomqvist,Poulin,Bjorkqvist... They did land on Sprong and Murray later rounds but can get by with drafts like that. You need picks to pane out or mix in with the Core. They have Yager/Pickering/TySmith but it's kind of late.
@jordanstreib389829 күн бұрын
im surprised burke let this shit happen tbh.
@user-pg5sz2vn1wАй бұрын
Love Burke, prior to his tenure here, could be a combination of new ownership & the modern league passing him by.
@chizoramaАй бұрын
The same could be said about the early 2010’s. We had a lot of great teams with great talent, but couldn’t pull through for various reasons
@Sleeper_productions28 күн бұрын
It's funny to me seeing folks accuse Hextall of being a double agent like he wasn't essentially sabotaging the Flyers while he was their GM too.
@MrPooly145929 күн бұрын
His moves in Pittsburgh was spotty but no one can deny Hextall’s magnificent rebuild of the LA Kings. He drafted well, stocked up young talent, and the Kings are set for long term success with how he rebuilt the team. Kings have the deepest talent pool of prospects in the NHL. The irony is Blake is running the team into the ground and squandering all of hextall’s work
@rere885829 күн бұрын
When Pitt is down, the sports world thrives.
@Mayor_Of_Eureka17Ай бұрын
This is simply incorrect. I could write out a response but this is just a bad take.
@brandonhall9959Ай бұрын
Thank you for the compliment & testifying to their awesomeness. Schadenfreude is a character trait in those that lack it...
@chizoramaАй бұрын
What Crosby, Malkin, and Letang have done for sports and this city is unbelievable, and since they have terrorized your team for almost 20 years, it has obviously scarred you.
@iwoah698Ай бұрын
@@iwoah698 `When the seagulls follow the trawler, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea'....God you pens fans are thinned skinned. Lol
@Mayor_Of_Eureka17Ай бұрын
@@iwoah698 `When the seagulls follow the trawler, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea'
@Mayor_Of_Eureka17Ай бұрын
I absolutely love the Penguins and breaks my heart to see them deteriorate before my eyes. The issues started long ago with Rutherford. Regardless of which players you like, the team became a revolving door of trades. They pick up good players, get them integrated, then trade them like baseball cards. These GM’s think they can “engineer” a team by making trades instead of building a team…they’re so stupid but sometimes get lucky like Rutherford…thanks for playing Russian roulette with our team. The problem is the GM’s and ownership.
@samlira963928 күн бұрын
Hextall was a Flyer to the end!
@kosmicwizard29 күн бұрын
I'd like to take this opportunity to complain about the Dubas era because he has glasses and let's just ignore the Hextall moves
@draneym2003Ай бұрын
Plain and simple the Penguins were never the same after throwing a 3-1 series lead against my New York Rangers in the 1st Round of the 2022 Playoffs
@izzyfc1928 күн бұрын
Sleeper Agent Hextall. Fly flyer fly 😅
@joshualayfield229425 күн бұрын
Hextall fired from Philly for focusing on youth and the future, then fired from the Pens for doing the exact opposite.
@ML-my8qq28 күн бұрын
Darren McCarthy has said many times that the hexstalls have destroyed the pen hockey. I wondered why he said this, you just explained it to me. Thank you!!
@thefamilymans254529 күн бұрын
Immediately hire Downtown Robbie Brown
@mega13man1Ай бұрын
Carter trade was a win, contributor for cheap and lowered cap hit
@luvslogistics1725Ай бұрын
Trade was a win, extension was not
@WhatsHappeningHockeyАй бұрын
The fact that Carter still gets regular minutes is unbelievable. The guy is done.
@michaelshields632628 күн бұрын
Ahem, that's Stanley Cup Champion Teddy Blueger
@andybeyer223026 күн бұрын
Next video in the series, “How Kyle Dubas DESTROYED what was left of the Pittsburgh Penguins”.
@HandShakeLineRespect28 күн бұрын
U had Hexstal w a mindset of big tougher guys and Sully wanted fast and more talented guys. The 2 systems didn’t mesh and it is what we have now. Excellent video!!!!
@brianbrink142129 күн бұрын
dont forget brandon tanev
@militant_daisies2194Ай бұрын
Imagine what they could’ve gotten in return for Malkin and Letang if they had traded them earlier. Could’ve piled up picks and good young players.
@JT-gi8rx26 күн бұрын
Fenway sports group has the reverse Midas touch on franchises
@lloydxmass10Ай бұрын
And this was Philly’s revenge for having Ray Shero crush them for years in moves and then send in his crony and former assistant Chuck Fletcher to dance on the ashes
@aaronpysher9354Ай бұрын
lemieux sold at the perfect time, such a 1000iq move
@I2ainАй бұрын
I always knew Hextall was my favorite Flyer for a reason! Thanks again, Ron!
@DragonDonut64Ай бұрын
Dude destroyed the flyers. Had no idea why the pens picked him up.
@acal204929 күн бұрын
I would rather suffer with Hextall forever than have Chuck Fletcher for one season. He's the one that set us back the most.
@Boddaaah29 күн бұрын
As long as Crosby, Malkin and Letang are playing, it's win now culture in Pittsburgh. Right or wrong it's reality. You think Dubass was hired because he promised the great rebuild of 2023? As far as owners asking about Hextall's future plans, that's them covering their owns asses when they decided to move on from him. You think they want a blueprint for a rebuild more than another deep playoff run?
@johnsweet96Ай бұрын
They don't want a deep playoff run or a rebuild, they want MONEY. The Penguins have no chance of another playoff run past the 1st round for the rest of Sid's career no matter what they do. Ownership just wants to keep the old stars as nostalgia to sell tickets and jerseys. They don't care if we win or lose, they just pretend to want to win because we have Crosby.
@erikthered967026 күн бұрын
SPOT ON! #NailedI 💯🎯
@CB_O.G.W.P.29 күн бұрын
BONINO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! REMEMBER THE HBK LINE..
@peta4635Ай бұрын
man hextall was on some pierre dorion stuff
@metcalfeshooter7118Ай бұрын
I was convinced it was intentional sabotage with some of the moves he was making, but Dumas hasn't been much better. Graves signing was the biggest head scratcher at the time and now its one of the worst contracts in the NHL. Also he's literally just signing his buddies from prior teams that clearly weren't good fits. (Acciari, Johnsson, Bunting)
@jdf945629 күн бұрын
History of the Pittsburgh Penguins Genesis: 1967-1968 to 1973-1974 (7 seasons) (2x playoffs, 1 round won) Stone Age: 1974-1975 to 1981-1982 (8 seasons) (7x playoffs, 2 rounds won) Classical Dark Ages: 1982-1983 to 1989-1990 (8 seasons) (1x playoffs, 1 round won) 6 YEARS STREAK NO PLAYOFFS! Golden Age: 1990-1991 to 1996-1997 (7 seasons) (7x playoffs, 12 rounds won, 2 Stanley Cups +1 conference final appearance) Silver Age: 1997-1998 to 2000-2001 (4 seasons) (4x playoffs, 4 rounds won, 1 conference final appearance) Age of the Deluge: 2001-2002 to 2005-2006 (4 seasons) (0x playoffs) Bronze Age: 2006-2007 to 2009-2010 (4 seasons) (4x playoffs, 8 rounds won, 1 Stanley Cup +1 conference final appearance) Middle and Late Bronze Age: 2010-2011 to 2014-2015 (5 seasons) (5x playoffs, 3 rounds won) Iron Age: 2015-2016 to 2018-2019 (4 seasons) (4x playoffs, 2 Stanley Cups, 9 rounds won) Modern Age: 2019-2020 to 2023-2024 (5 seasons) (4x playoffs, 0 rounds won) Neo Dark Ages: 2024-2025 to 2029-30 (6 next seasons) The fall of the Penguins? History of the Stanley Cup Genesis and Early Stone Age: 1893 to 1914 Middle Stone Age and Late Stone age: 1915 to 1926 History of the NHL Genesis of the NHL and the Age of Heroes: 1926-1927 to 1940-1941 Classical Age and Age of the Original Six: 1941-1942 to 1966-1967 Late Classical Age and Early Golden Age: 1968-1969 to 1978-1979 Peak Golden Age and Late Golden Age: 1979-1980 to 1993-1994 Dead Puck Era or Early Silver Age: 1994-1995 to 1999-2000 Late Silver Age: 2000-2001 to 2004 Early Bronze Age: 2005-2006 to 2008-2009 Late Bronze Age: 2009-2010 to 2014-2015 Iron Age: 2015-2016 to 2022-2023 The Renaissance: 2024-2025 to 2030!!! Pittsburgh are lucky because in a renaissance they can go from bottom to top if they make the right moves. When Crosby, Malkin and Letang retire, the Pens will take a drop and a much bigger drop than the Bruins took. Boston barely dropped... Krejci wasn't producing like crazy with them, so his points were "expandable" with all due respect to the guy. With Bergegon however, they took a hit but they managed to stay almost at the same level. Bergeron could have played 2-3 more years for sure. It's his decision, and we got to respect that, but us fans probably wish he still played a few years. Hehe The Pens will take a drop like the Black Hawks have. Letang, Malkin and Crosby. That's 3 players. Boston technically lost only 1 player. I feel like Crosby wants to end his career in Pittsburgh so he is not going to get traded. He is more loyal than he is hungry for another cup. Malkin though I don't know about him. If he is as loyal as Sid, sure keep him but it's going to hurt the team. I say they should only trade him if he wants to go for a shot at the Stanley Cup, but I doubt it because Malkin has nothing else to prove. Of course, if he wants to move, I say the Pens should deal him to a good team for draft picks and maybe a prospect in bank. And Letang well, I think he is as loyal but I am pretty sure he wouldn't mind playing with MTL until he is 42 as a 5th-6th Defenseman. Maybe he would be willing to get traded there if the Pens ask him. Hehe
@malakaspawt3190Ай бұрын
Thank you Hexy! Lets Go Flyers!
@buscampers29 күн бұрын
What would you expect they were his sworn enemy for like 35 years
@jakermon101425 күн бұрын
Not moving on from the veterans is on the organization not Ron
@spittinvenom9843Ай бұрын
Undercover flyers agent? 😂
@matlabattАй бұрын
That rangers series took YEARS off my life. Sid getting hurt and broccoli man sucking was the worst.
@wes844126 күн бұрын
As a nucks fan thank you Pittsburgh
@BigSleepyJoeCooking28 күн бұрын
I've been a Penguins fan since 1990. I can agree on your take that Hextall wrecked the Penguins, and Kyle Dubas did do a good job of getting rid of a lot of the negative assets acquired by Hextall. Having said that, the Ryan Graves contract was a self own, and while it is better that the Penguins got something instead of losing Guentzel for nothing, the return is underwhelming at best, and potentially could have been avoided if Dubas did a better job retooling the Penguins bottom six and defense.
@serialmiller198728 күн бұрын
Nylander is looking spicy on Columbus so far, lol
@hotdogmanfulАй бұрын
Been a hell of a ride 🖤💛
@testsubject199Ай бұрын
Most teams will gladly suffer a lengthy rebuild for one cup, let alone three.
@sj4iy25 күн бұрын
Ron Hextall owes me $200 for last years Sportsnet subscription. This year "could" add another $200, not Dubas. Bill's in the mail.
@dionpaulcreations96020 күн бұрын
Who hired me Hextall?? That on them
@davidknight1973Ай бұрын
As a Flyer fan I would have to say he did something right as a GM.
@toddgershАй бұрын
I liked Dubas with the Leafs, but I can't believe he traded for another defensive liability in the offseason, at the expense of not being able to re-sign Guentzel. The Pens would be in such a better place without the Letang and Karlsson contracts.
@misakikoko450029 күн бұрын
Someone give Ron a goalie stick to break!
@mikehunt5574Ай бұрын
You didn't mention that Kapanen was almost traded but he had a couple good games and then they resigned him
@TANMAN8428 күн бұрын
HEXTALL IS PRETTY MUCH PETER CHIARELLI😮
@showtim329 күн бұрын
He destroyed the Nordiques ´93 playoffs against Montreal.
undercover philly agent
I never understood Hextall’s tenure with the pens until I discovered that he was working a second job all throughout. Did you know he was simultaneously employed as Gritty all along?
@@WhatsHappeningHockeysee your take in this is bad, hextall being forced to resign Malkin and Letang has done all the damage to this team, there’s a thing called a salary cap and when two old players who aren’t producing to make up for their lack of defence take up 16% of your cap space. Suddenly all these “2 year extensions for the likes of Carter aren’t too bad cause they are only 2 years. Not 6 years for a 35 year old small injury prone defencemen or 4 years for a 36 year old Russian forward. Those contracts deserve hate cause they are awful, his moves for 3rd and 4th liners mean nothing when you are trading your 1st round pick every year for a decade prior. In the salary cap world you need cheap young talent. Just cause Sid’s nickname is the kid doesn’t mean he’s a kid anymore. Kyle Dumbass will do more damage to this team than Ron Hextall could’ve ever done in a decade. The Karlsson trade and Alex Nylander given away for nothing are already your first signs of Dubas ineptitude. Have fun.
Dude he killed the flyers too. What are you talking about. He just sucks.
@@BANGITSME87 it ain’t that deep lil bro it was just a joke
I call bullcrap because he was also terrible a s a flyers GM. Also, I'm sure ownership had a role in trying to keep the window open even though it was obvious a rebuild was necessary
Nobody will ever convince me that he wasn't under cover for the Flyers. Ain't no way!
Lol he ruined them too. Hiring Hakstoll because he coached his son, refused to bring up Hart and drafted Nolan Patrick over Makar just to name a few of his bonehead moves
Always said he was a saboteur...
What's Dubas's excuse then?
@@johnnyrocken8818No one would have taken Makar over Patrick.
Patrick was the lock pick that year over half the league had him top 3 on their lists Who knew 😊
I think it was revenge for all the times Mario beat him like a rented mule
Hate that expression 🤬🤬🤬
Kinda destroyed the Flyers too. Man, he must hate Pennsylvania.
How can Hextall be an undercover agent for the Flyers when he destroyed the flyers before he went on to the Penguins😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅Hextall is an awful GM
I'm not sure Philly or Pittsburgh should hire each other's alumni.
@@stevencooke6451 you would have to take Mario's back to back cups then. That was Flyers management 😳
tell Hextall your comment, but replace “awful GM” with “awful goalie who can’t keep me out of his crease” and watch that man magically David Blaine summon a Sher-Wood outta thin air.
@@604eign you mean choke master Hackstall
Flyers Fan: I was glad when he went to Pitt from Philly because we knew he would destroy the Pens like he did with the Flyers! According to Bobby Clarke, it was Hextall who insisted on taking Nolan Patrick over Cale Makar. The entire scouting staff knew the obvious, but Hextall overruled them. Worst draft decision in history
Lmao.
Please note Ron’s boss was Brian Burke who also destroyed the Maple Laffs.
The Fenway Sports Group prevented Burke and Hextall from trading dinosaurs Letang and Malkin.
@@Landis_Grantas they should, no city and team will just discard 2 HOFers who helped win the city 3 cups and 15 straight playoff runs. If we trade them sid also certainly wants out, you see how unhappy he was when jake got traded, imagine how he would’ve felt when his 2 best friends and career long teammates were traded a few years after winning a cup, this isn’t gm mode kid
Why in the world would we draft a clown like him?
Protecting Carter, Kapanen and Blueger over McCann will never not be funny
Well.. who even is mcann 😂
@@johannespitkamaki1369scored 40 for Seattle last year
@@johannespitkamaki1369 I can’t tell if this is serious or not
@@johannespitkamaki1369Captain of the Seattle Kraken
Carter needed to be protected because he had a NTC no?
Sullivan still being behind the bench is complete insanity
He gets zero blame. Obviously should get some heat for running the exact same systems that haven't worked for the past 3 seasons. No adjustments despite different personel.
@@rubberneckinc.8937 the most glaring this to me is that nearly every player brought in from outside the organization plays worse here and most play better when they leave. Karlsson scored 100 points on a dog shit Sharks team last season and looks like he will get 53-55 at best this season. Graves now looks like he doesn't belong in the NHL.
@@bradjones9784He certainly doesn't allow creativity. That's probably why young players aren't given a chance under him
@@rubberneckinc.8937He is to blame. He keeps trying to play a "fast game" with 30 year olds who skate in cement since Hextall traded all the fast players. The Isl's and Rangers make the Pens look like statues.
@@mattcampbell4777 I blame Sullivan for some of it. He should have been let go during this season. It's the same story as last year for the Pens right? He may not pick the guys but he made the same results. You can fire a Cup winning coach.
Kyle Dubas: hold my beer
rutherford made a pens 2 in vancouver with all our ex players
as a caps fan i want the pens to be competitive hockey is better when caps and pens are at their best going head to head
This generation doesnt fully understand how good they had it, not only did they get to see the big 3 in pittsburgh, we got to see Ovi, We got to see Sid vs Ovi in the play offs. 2 generational players at the top of their game going head to head in the play offs. My generation never had the chance to see 66 vs 99 when it meant something. You may never see anything like that again in the NHL.
I’ll never forgive Hextall for protecting Carter over McCann. Haunts me to this day
As a Leafs fan I'll never forgive Kyle Dubas for protecting Alex Kerfoot over McCann
@@wizzerwiser2056 but the Leafs didn't protect Kerfoot, you protected Justin Holl, then traded essentially nothing for the guy who lost in the expansion draft so you wouldn't lose a roster player like Kerfoot. You guys could've traded for McCann and kept him and lost Kerfoot, but instead kept the same team and lost a minor leaguer, which is still great
Winner of the Mike Milbury Award
Underrated comment there. He doesn't touch Mike though because somehow Milbury kept his job longer
When Mario lost interest in the team and FSG took over, that was it. We had an amazing run, rivaled only by Edmonton as far as expansion teams go. Can't blame Mario, he has his life to live and already went above and beyond for the Pens
Very well put. He saved our team from becoming the Kitchener Blackberries. Im from KW, so I wouldnt mind that, but then the team was going to go to Hamilton. That I would not stand for.
Mario didnt lose interest just knew when it was time to get out
The Devils in the 90s and 2000s were better teams and consistently beat the Penguins like a red headed stepchild
@josephmcauley7605 Devils have less championships than Pittsburgh or Edmonton, thus an inferior franchise.
@@josephmcauley7605 The Devils were better in 91-92-93-96-08 & 09?
You briefly mentioned it at the end but some of it has to go on Sullivan. Unable to get a spark from guys and when they leave, a new coach gets them into a role where they succeed. Is it to for Sully to hit the road with the recent failures and struggles of the team?
Imo Sullivan is just as to blame for failing to recognize the depth players at his disposal. What separates the good coaches from the great is their ability to form good 3rd/4th lines. Not every coach gets the luxury to set and forget Crosby at 1C every night. John Cooper’s run in Tampa is a great example of how properly utilizing depth players can elevate a team
I could’ve gone into way more depth with Sullivan too. Some of his traits that helped the Penguins to championships have been noticeably absent in recent seasons. When Sully took over in late 2015, he saw great potential in the players he worked with in Wilkes Barre. Bryan Rust, Tom Kuhnackl and Connor Sheary were all injected into the NHL lineup with trust. They had room to make errors and 100% did, but Sully stuck with his gut and let them find their way. The following year he did the same thing with Guentzel (though his impact was much more immediate). In recent seasons Sullivan’s patience for youth has been little to non-existent. Developing players barely get a shot in the NHL. They have incredibly short leashes. This isnt to discredit the fact that the pens’ pool of youth has gotten increasingly shallow. But so has Sullivan’s judgement (see his repeated decision to start Jeff Carter at centre in overtime situations, only to remove him from the ice immediately after the draw) Dominik Simon, Scott Wilson and Josh Archibald are also examples of younger players he really liked. He used them repeatedly in the twenty-teens. But these guys never found proper success with other franchises, with fewer tools in their respective boxes. Was that because Sullivan understood them and was able to milk more out of their games? Or was it blind trust based on a brief history in the AHL? Regardless, Sully has not given young players the same opportunities in recent seasons. His patience is short. He makes his mind up on how a player should be utilized incredibly quick. It’s rare that they’re able to break from that mould.
@@WhatsHappeningHockey exactly, Sullivan in 2016 seems like the complete opposite coach as he is now, then he was creative with lines and utilized those young guys in the best position to succeed (with Crosby) and wasn't afraid to make adjustments especially with goalies, past 2018 he's been worse every year, puts all his faith in whoever the starting goalie was no matter how much better the backup played (first Murray then Jarry) and now doesn't make any adjustments at all, same lines every game, with the occasional scratching of a young 4th liner because he gave the puck away once
Ron Hextall was a Flyers in heart. Period. So when he gets installed in bloody state rival Penguins, yeah undercover work is all we need to understand. Hextall: "My lord (Flyers GM) our plans are working. We have ruined our greatest rivals dominance and slowly we have grown terrible! Lord GM: "Excellent, your deep loyalty shall be rewarded soon!"
The current GM is Danny Briere, and as fan since his playing days, this is blatant slander.
Dubas will continue to carry Hextal's torch
he’s done a fine job so far
Funny draft picks by Hextall in Philly were an omen he'd destroy the Pens. 2017 Hextall drafts bust Nolan Patrick over Cale Makar and Elias Pettersson. 2014 Hextall drafts Travis Sanheim over David Pasternak. 2015 Hextall drafts Ivan Provorov over Mikko Rantanen , Kyle Connor, Zach Werenski, Barzal, etc. In 2016 Hex drafted German Rubstov over Tage Thompson. Basically the Flyers could have drafted Cale Makar, David Pasternak, Tage Thompson and Mikko Rantanen but Hextall was HEXXING! Nothing personal Pen's fans.
I was super lucky I great up watching the Lemieux Jagr Francis era and then the Crosby Malkin Letang era, we have been spoils as pens fan. Having said that the auto-sabotage by Hextall is on another level, maybe we would not get cups but we would have a team that could compete and make the playoffs. Now it's time to take the path of the LA Kings or the Bruins where a retool is possible by doing smart moves, let's see what the holds or let the dark ages begin
Hopefully they haven’t run out of time for the retool, need to see Crosby and Co get another crack at the cup
Peter Chiarelli was 10x worse than Hextall. But yeah, Hextall was still real bad.
Grew up a Pens fan in the 90s, too. Funny, I have such a soft spot for those early 2000s teams and players. JS Aubin, Dick Tarnstrom, Michel Oullet, Rico Fata, Konstantin Koltsov, talk about dark ages. But you knew they were going to lose. They were out there trying their best. It's far harder to stomach this iteration of the Pens, even if this dark age is less dark.
As a sharks fan I’d like to thank Hextall for all his fine work.
wow hextall really only started in 2021? i thought he was there for like a decade with all the damage he did..
He did a decade's worth of damage, so there's that.
HaHa. He was here in Philly killing the Flyers for way longer than that. You really should have kept him around for 5 to 8 seasons to see what damage he could really do.
As a pens fan this video hurts but it’s so very true. He ruined the twilight years of sids career
The dark ages were the late 90's early 2000s. The years where Kris Beech was their best forward and defenseman Dick Tarnstrum lead the team in scoring. Not there yet, but the ship needs a new course or they will be soon.
Steve McKenna was an alternate captain... 😂😂 Nuff said.
He destroyed the flyers and i was sooooo happy when the penguins hired him because i knew he was going to destroy them too 😂
Hextall playin the long game - making sure to finally destroy the Pens in favor of his beloved Flyers.
Think thats nonsense Nobody is trying to be unsuccessful by design Also as Flyers GM he did mistakes Taking Nolan Patrick when Heiskanen,Makar etc. available Different contracts or the way how he dealt with Voracek Crosby needs to leave for a Canadian team what can win the cup
@@goenzoy712no. Go. Away.
He was awful with the Flyers too, this is a lazy and stupid take. Flyers fans hate this dude now.
I'm amazed that people don't understand sarcasm.
@@MrJayehawkthey do, but Flyers fans hate him just as much.
It is amazing to me how two men could completely dismantle a hockey club and so many of the players they let go of, are now playing great for their respective teams.
He did the same thing to the Flyers and then Chuck Fletcher took over right after and it got even worse😂😂😂
As a Stars fan, and more of a baseball (Texas Rangers) addict, I see your pain. And it recalls the entire San Diego Chargers debacle, with owner Alex Spanos. HE played the long game, even paying for the state of the art pre-season training facilities for his beloved San Fran Niners - while forcing the team he owns, San Diego, to train at older, underwhelming public spaces. Spanos de$ired prime televi$ion money, and wanted the NFL to allow him to move to Lo$ Angele$ or Vega$ - and got his wish decades later. I hope your Pens, especially your top trio (Crosby, Malkin, Letang), don't have to suffer other seasons than 2023-24.
Ian Cole was traded by Jim Rutherford to Ottawa for Derrick Brassard ahead of the 2018 playoffs. I will never forgive him for that. Cole was a huge part of beating the Caps the previous two seasons and the Pens have won one playoff series since that trade. I'm not saying it was only losing Cole that caused their downfall, but they didn't need a third line center over someone who could hit and block shots the way Cole could.
As a leaf’s fan I’m sorry you guys have Kyle dubas
Kyle Dubas: hold my beer
lol u clowns don't deserve him. shanny is calling all the shots for that shit show anyways.
As a Penguins fan I can tell you that any intelligence in our fanbase gets drowned out by bandwagoners and fellow yinzers who only tune in after Football season and only if the Penguins are good. An intelligent fanbase would have been screaming for Hextall's head after the expansion fiasco, just like an intelligent fanbase would call for Dubas's head after the Karlsson and Graves deals.
I'm not they were stupid enough to hire him. Half of those guys Hextall let go, Dubus signed them in Toronto only to let them go as well.
@@ozzymandias7649 you're right, it was obvious Hextall had no clue what he was doing from his history with Philly, he was simply the sit in GM while they were trying to sell the team, he should have been gone immediately after the season ended and before the expansion draft, or as soon as the ownership found out his protection list. Dubas has come in and immediately shown how clueless he is as well by immediately putting all his faith in three 36 year olds and a coach who hasn't made a line change or won a playoff series in 5 years. Karlsson trade was good for us on paper (moving several overpaid players in their mid 30s for a superstar) but obviously wasn't going to turn the team around.
Alex Nylander has done amazing things in Columbus. Now it's the Jackets...they suck. So he looks like a first line player due to their lack of depth and injuries. Still...can't believe he didn't get a chance in Pittsburgh
How many games did he play on the Pens roster?
"Dubas is on clean up duty". Tough to say when his first move is getting EK....
I wonder if Hextall's dedication to keep Kapanen had anything to do with his father? Probably a stretch, but Sami played a few years in Philly with Hextall in management
People say the Karlson trade was bad, but dumping those bad contracts alone was worth the 1st round pick. Give Dubas time.
Ah yes, the give Dubas time excuse. Dubas is a fraud. His track record speaks for itself. He makes a "splash" signing a big name high priced player for a position that the team doesn't need. Then he grasps for straws and makes excuses and asks for patience. He's incompetent and should be treated as such. Don't give him time, put the heat on him, hold him accountable, then you'll see how useless he really is. This team needed to be faster, younger, like the Caps have done, Dubas brings in Karlsson and Eller, what a joke.
Time for what dude? Look at what he did in Toronto, he just handcuffed himself in Pittsburgh just like he did with the Tavares signing
What a stupid statement. You didn't dump those contracts for a first if you ended up taking on an equally garbage contract.
@@ozzymandias7649 thank you, we were all thinking it when we read the original comment. Zero brainpower at work here. Karlsson is overpriced, overrated, and his contract is practically impossible to move.
Not if its the #11 overall pick. San Jose and even Montreal have come out far ahead in this trade.
Haha. And now they have Dubas. I look forward to your coverage of his failure coming down the pipe.
10:01 Was Granlund acquired for a 3rd round pick, as you state, or a 2nd round pick, as stated in the screen grab?
Wasnt reading my script, just speaking off the tip of my tongue. Misspoke and applied the zoom effect to put emphasis on my error! It was a second rounder unfortunately lol
Legit quality content man you deserve more subs!
Thanks brother. Much appreciated.
Hextall destroyed Philly . What did Management expect ? Duh .
And now you have Kyle Dubas doing the same.
@@wizzerwiser2056he has not even been remotely close to as bad as hextall was
Give him time
And you wondered why we all laughed in Philly when they hired him. Now that he's done this, we love Ron all over again! Just stay off Broad St!
Penguins will get nowhere with a coach that is incapable of giving young players a chance. That’s how the NHL evolves. Young players develop.
Pittsburgh has been plagued by bad gm’s Rutherford and dubass also really messed up more than they fixed
You have always have an eye on the future. Sometimes that means having the ability to trade away fan favorites for pics while they still have value. It's tough - especially with the draft lottery crapshoot.
This video was so frustrating to watch. You’re right in every way too
Decline started with Burke, grew with Hextal, and blew up with the beantown bean counters taking over.
I never understood why on Earth we put a f'n Flyer in the front office 🤮
Great video. This needed to be talked about
Hextall did this to the Flyers also. Flyers are finally getting better and recovered after Hextall era
Hextall still has that flyers dual loyalty
Excellent analysis
Very similar to the end of the Doug Wilson era in San Jose. The quicker you can identify you’re in a rebuild phase the better. San Jose wasted 2 seasons thinking they just needed to make a few tweaks to the roster and they’d be right back to making the playoffs.
Stan Bowman has left the chat.
Hextall drove the nail into the coffin and Dufus will is clinching it!😂
It's years of trading 1sts to win in the moment even prior to Hextall. Search who's made it since 2013 2013 had Guentzel/Jarry If you go back prior to that Despres,Bennett,Morrow,Pouliot. After 2013 Addison,Blomqvist,Poulin,Bjorkqvist... They did land on Sprong and Murray later rounds but can get by with drafts like that. You need picks to pane out or mix in with the Core. They have Yager/Pickering/TySmith but it's kind of late.
im surprised burke let this shit happen tbh.
Love Burke, prior to his tenure here, could be a combination of new ownership & the modern league passing him by.
The same could be said about the early 2010’s. We had a lot of great teams with great talent, but couldn’t pull through for various reasons
It's funny to me seeing folks accuse Hextall of being a double agent like he wasn't essentially sabotaging the Flyers while he was their GM too.
His moves in Pittsburgh was spotty but no one can deny Hextall’s magnificent rebuild of the LA Kings. He drafted well, stocked up young talent, and the Kings are set for long term success with how he rebuilt the team. Kings have the deepest talent pool of prospects in the NHL. The irony is Blake is running the team into the ground and squandering all of hextall’s work
When Pitt is down, the sports world thrives.
This is simply incorrect. I could write out a response but this is just a bad take.
Thank you for the compliment & testifying to their awesomeness. Schadenfreude is a character trait in those that lack it...
What Crosby, Malkin, and Letang have done for sports and this city is unbelievable, and since they have terrorized your team for almost 20 years, it has obviously scarred you.
@@iwoah698 `When the seagulls follow the trawler, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea'....God you pens fans are thinned skinned. Lol
@@iwoah698 `When the seagulls follow the trawler, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea'
I absolutely love the Penguins and breaks my heart to see them deteriorate before my eyes. The issues started long ago with Rutherford. Regardless of which players you like, the team became a revolving door of trades. They pick up good players, get them integrated, then trade them like baseball cards. These GM’s think they can “engineer” a team by making trades instead of building a team…they’re so stupid but sometimes get lucky like Rutherford…thanks for playing Russian roulette with our team. The problem is the GM’s and ownership.
Hextall was a Flyer to the end!
I'd like to take this opportunity to complain about the Dubas era because he has glasses and let's just ignore the Hextall moves
Plain and simple the Penguins were never the same after throwing a 3-1 series lead against my New York Rangers in the 1st Round of the 2022 Playoffs
Sleeper Agent Hextall. Fly flyer fly 😅
Hextall fired from Philly for focusing on youth and the future, then fired from the Pens for doing the exact opposite.
Darren McCarthy has said many times that the hexstalls have destroyed the pen hockey. I wondered why he said this, you just explained it to me. Thank you!!
Immediately hire Downtown Robbie Brown
Carter trade was a win, contributor for cheap and lowered cap hit
Trade was a win, extension was not
The fact that Carter still gets regular minutes is unbelievable. The guy is done.
Ahem, that's Stanley Cup Champion Teddy Blueger
Next video in the series, “How Kyle Dubas DESTROYED what was left of the Pittsburgh Penguins”.
U had Hexstal w a mindset of big tougher guys and Sully wanted fast and more talented guys. The 2 systems didn’t mesh and it is what we have now. Excellent video!!!!
dont forget brandon tanev
Imagine what they could’ve gotten in return for Malkin and Letang if they had traded them earlier. Could’ve piled up picks and good young players.
Fenway sports group has the reverse Midas touch on franchises
And this was Philly’s revenge for having Ray Shero crush them for years in moves and then send in his crony and former assistant Chuck Fletcher to dance on the ashes
lemieux sold at the perfect time, such a 1000iq move
I always knew Hextall was my favorite Flyer for a reason! Thanks again, Ron!
Dude destroyed the flyers. Had no idea why the pens picked him up.
I would rather suffer with Hextall forever than have Chuck Fletcher for one season. He's the one that set us back the most.
As long as Crosby, Malkin and Letang are playing, it's win now culture in Pittsburgh. Right or wrong it's reality. You think Dubass was hired because he promised the great rebuild of 2023? As far as owners asking about Hextall's future plans, that's them covering their owns asses when they decided to move on from him. You think they want a blueprint for a rebuild more than another deep playoff run?
They don't want a deep playoff run or a rebuild, they want MONEY. The Penguins have no chance of another playoff run past the 1st round for the rest of Sid's career no matter what they do. Ownership just wants to keep the old stars as nostalgia to sell tickets and jerseys. They don't care if we win or lose, they just pretend to want to win because we have Crosby.
SPOT ON! #NailedI 💯🎯
BONINO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! REMEMBER THE HBK LINE..
man hextall was on some pierre dorion stuff
I was convinced it was intentional sabotage with some of the moves he was making, but Dumas hasn't been much better. Graves signing was the biggest head scratcher at the time and now its one of the worst contracts in the NHL. Also he's literally just signing his buddies from prior teams that clearly weren't good fits. (Acciari, Johnsson, Bunting)
History of the Pittsburgh Penguins Genesis: 1967-1968 to 1973-1974 (7 seasons) (2x playoffs, 1 round won) Stone Age: 1974-1975 to 1981-1982 (8 seasons) (7x playoffs, 2 rounds won) Classical Dark Ages: 1982-1983 to 1989-1990 (8 seasons) (1x playoffs, 1 round won) 6 YEARS STREAK NO PLAYOFFS! Golden Age: 1990-1991 to 1996-1997 (7 seasons) (7x playoffs, 12 rounds won, 2 Stanley Cups +1 conference final appearance) Silver Age: 1997-1998 to 2000-2001 (4 seasons) (4x playoffs, 4 rounds won, 1 conference final appearance) Age of the Deluge: 2001-2002 to 2005-2006 (4 seasons) (0x playoffs) Bronze Age: 2006-2007 to 2009-2010 (4 seasons) (4x playoffs, 8 rounds won, 1 Stanley Cup +1 conference final appearance) Middle and Late Bronze Age: 2010-2011 to 2014-2015 (5 seasons) (5x playoffs, 3 rounds won) Iron Age: 2015-2016 to 2018-2019 (4 seasons) (4x playoffs, 2 Stanley Cups, 9 rounds won) Modern Age: 2019-2020 to 2023-2024 (5 seasons) (4x playoffs, 0 rounds won) Neo Dark Ages: 2024-2025 to 2029-30 (6 next seasons) The fall of the Penguins? History of the Stanley Cup Genesis and Early Stone Age: 1893 to 1914 Middle Stone Age and Late Stone age: 1915 to 1926 History of the NHL Genesis of the NHL and the Age of Heroes: 1926-1927 to 1940-1941 Classical Age and Age of the Original Six: 1941-1942 to 1966-1967 Late Classical Age and Early Golden Age: 1968-1969 to 1978-1979 Peak Golden Age and Late Golden Age: 1979-1980 to 1993-1994 Dead Puck Era or Early Silver Age: 1994-1995 to 1999-2000 Late Silver Age: 2000-2001 to 2004 Early Bronze Age: 2005-2006 to 2008-2009 Late Bronze Age: 2009-2010 to 2014-2015 Iron Age: 2015-2016 to 2022-2023 The Renaissance: 2024-2025 to 2030!!! Pittsburgh are lucky because in a renaissance they can go from bottom to top if they make the right moves. When Crosby, Malkin and Letang retire, the Pens will take a drop and a much bigger drop than the Bruins took. Boston barely dropped... Krejci wasn't producing like crazy with them, so his points were "expandable" with all due respect to the guy. With Bergegon however, they took a hit but they managed to stay almost at the same level. Bergeron could have played 2-3 more years for sure. It's his decision, and we got to respect that, but us fans probably wish he still played a few years. Hehe The Pens will take a drop like the Black Hawks have. Letang, Malkin and Crosby. That's 3 players. Boston technically lost only 1 player. I feel like Crosby wants to end his career in Pittsburgh so he is not going to get traded. He is more loyal than he is hungry for another cup. Malkin though I don't know about him. If he is as loyal as Sid, sure keep him but it's going to hurt the team. I say they should only trade him if he wants to go for a shot at the Stanley Cup, but I doubt it because Malkin has nothing else to prove. Of course, if he wants to move, I say the Pens should deal him to a good team for draft picks and maybe a prospect in bank. And Letang well, I think he is as loyal but I am pretty sure he wouldn't mind playing with MTL until he is 42 as a 5th-6th Defenseman. Maybe he would be willing to get traded there if the Pens ask him. Hehe
Thank you Hexy! Lets Go Flyers!
What would you expect they were his sworn enemy for like 35 years
Not moving on from the veterans is on the organization not Ron
Undercover flyers agent? 😂
That rangers series took YEARS off my life. Sid getting hurt and broccoli man sucking was the worst.
As a nucks fan thank you Pittsburgh
I've been a Penguins fan since 1990. I can agree on your take that Hextall wrecked the Penguins, and Kyle Dubas did do a good job of getting rid of a lot of the negative assets acquired by Hextall. Having said that, the Ryan Graves contract was a self own, and while it is better that the Penguins got something instead of losing Guentzel for nothing, the return is underwhelming at best, and potentially could have been avoided if Dubas did a better job retooling the Penguins bottom six and defense.
Nylander is looking spicy on Columbus so far, lol
Been a hell of a ride 🖤💛
Most teams will gladly suffer a lengthy rebuild for one cup, let alone three.
Ron Hextall owes me $200 for last years Sportsnet subscription. This year "could" add another $200, not Dubas. Bill's in the mail.
Who hired me Hextall?? That on them
As a Flyer fan I would have to say he did something right as a GM.
I liked Dubas with the Leafs, but I can't believe he traded for another defensive liability in the offseason, at the expense of not being able to re-sign Guentzel. The Pens would be in such a better place without the Letang and Karlsson contracts.
Someone give Ron a goalie stick to break!
You didn't mention that Kapanen was almost traded but he had a couple good games and then they resigned him
HEXTALL IS PRETTY MUCH PETER CHIARELLI😮
He destroyed the Nordiques ´93 playoffs against Montreal.