Everything Wrong With Oppenheimer In 26 Minutes or Less
Oppenheimer was one of the biggest films of 2023, so we decided to see if it had any sins. Big surprise... It's got some!
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When I saw this in theaters the projector shut off halfway through and some guy a few rows behind us said “they dropped the bomb”
That guy is a pure legend! XD
😂😂😂😂
Okay?
And then everybody clapped haha
Spoilers!
"Taking full credit for the depravity of man". Classic line.
Is this a reference to something?
what does it even mean
@@jakubrejak1114 not that I'm aware of. Just thought he said so much so succinctly that it was an instant classic.
@@Ramesh-mq7uo Oppenheimer is, or maybe think of himself, a marthyr. Endossing the sins of humanity
a martyr is someone who is killed because of their beliefs. As far as I am aware of, Oppie just died of throat cancer, probably owing to his chain-smoking habits
Fun fact, at exactly 1:58:00, Frank says “it worked”, making it a fun tie in with Oppie saying “in exactly 1 hour 58 minutes we’ll know”
Wow!
Wow, good observation!
fun fact at 1:27 oppie finishes early in florence pugh because he only lasted a minute and 27 seconds
Oooh!
18:54 This is actually historically accurate. US Secretary for War Henry Stimson did spend his honeymoon in Kyoto in the 1920’s and believed the Japanese would appreciate the preservation of its beauty and culture.
Another thing is that the Japanese not going to surrender was true. The amount of island hoping missions that had them fighting to the death was enough to prove that point.
Beat me to it.
Him going there is accurate, him bringing it up in the meeting is not.
What cinemasins didnt do research?😧
@@harrywatson2694 Classic Jeremy 😏
This scene does contain a lap dance. But there was no sin removal
I don’t think “dance” is the right word in this context.
That’s because we got to use the word Oppenheimered
He didn't seem to think it was hot enough to count as a lap dance
Amazing how a 3 hr movie only has 26 minutes of CinemaSins
28
Would have been better if it was 10
@@packedentertainment2866Ding
They should do Goodfellas, Casino, and the 2005 King Kong
They already did the 2005 King Kong
The ending scene warrants at least a few dozen sins off. I was speechless in the theatre
Agreed. Never had the ending to a movie move me more. Probably because it can still happen 😅
I would have been annoyed if someone was saying anything during any of the film in the cinema lol
linkin park: WHAT IVE DONE *directed by: Michael Bay*
@@streetburner15😂 smash cut to nu metal
The guy next to me was hammered and wouldn't shut up but I still loved it@@angelusadgopul5388
Another sin is that in the scene where Oppenheimer receives his award from Johnson (in 1963, I believe), Lawrence is present, even though Lawrence had died in 1958
Finding things like that is what cinemasins used to be, not claiming things that happened actually didn't happen and sinning it
Johnson didn’t even want to give it to him. Kennedy had awarded him the award and Jackie showed up and told Oppenheimer how important it was to her husband that he was recognized.
Force ghost.
@@jpotter2086 Ah, yes. How could I have not taken that into account?
“Taking in the sheets” has a double meaning which is that he didn’t want radioactive fallout from a successful test irradiating them.
I wish there was a sin taken off for Kitty's testimony towards the end of film. It demonstrated such a level of wit and keen intelligence masterfully told through Emily Blunts brilliant performance in such a well paced scene
the music change when she finally snaps out of it and puts it to the interviewer is incredible. The song is "Kitty Comes To Testify" and that moment when it finally turns, chills
@GregNeedsFriends no
That’s assuming cinemasins is having critical thoughts going on. He’d rather make an Aretha Franklin reference when they use the letters AEC. 🤦🏻♂️
Doesn't deserve the Oscar imo. She's done lot better roles
I recently learned that most of the stuff she says combating Roger Rob is almost verbatim from the actual transcripts, so she was well-spoken irl too
I feel like the attention to detail when the trinity test dropped and the shockwave travelled and got higher and higher pitched, enough so that the kids could hear it and start freaking out while the adults didnt hear anything should be recognized. I havent seen the movie with older adults yet but i wouldn’t be surprised if the adults in the theatre couldnt hear the ringing while the younger people could.
Now I've become Jeremy, sinner if movies
but what are you if NOT movies?
*’I am’
I always enjoy the ERB Oppenheimer line "After your raps, I am become deaf"
*A DING as loud as a nuclear explosion suddenly scares us.
@@The_Real_Slim_Shadow94 Right, _that's_ the incorrect part of his sentence
I assumed they hadn’t done biopics before because that would basically be sinning someone’s life decisions
They have sinned the movie hustlers and the greatest showman before It's not something they frequently do, but they do do it every once in a blue moon
@@beastlycharizard13tbf Greatest Showman is not an accurate depiction of Barnum’s life so it’s basically fiction anyway 😂
@antoniacosta6221 Yeah, the Greatest Showman is as much of a biopic about P. T. Barnum as Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is a biopic about Sharon Tate.
Are you saying that no one in their life has ever sinned?
@@The_Real_Slim_Shadow94 The answer to that is dependent on your religion. In my experience the only ever non-sinners are religious figures.
The "that's a baby Robert" sin was actually top tier humor
Can we add a sin for the fact that whatever the hell Oppie was speaking, it didn’t even resemble Dutch in the slightest
Like for real, I couldn't understand one bit of it
Dutch in a german accent
Maybe that was the point? Since he learned it in like 6 weeks.
@@sethlight2784 I think the point they tried to make is, that he was supposed to be super smart and able to learn a language in a short amount of time. If the students wouldn't be able to understand him, it would not be of any use.
I read "American Prometheus", and if I remember correctly it mentioned that Oppenheimer learned Dutch by himself in a short amount of time. So I would suppose that's why he knew the words and grammar, but not how to pronounce it, since he didn't speak Dutch with anyone before that lecture
If it weren't for Oppenheimer creating the nuclear bomb, Godzilla wouldn't be born.
No it’d be if the US hadn’t used it against Japan specifically
1:10 This was literally the second nomination that was rejected since the 1860s. It was considered a foregone conclusion that if the President nominated someone they would get approved. And the one in the 1920s was only rejected because the Vice President showed up late and missed casting the tie breaking vote even with him tied to the recent Teapot Dome scandal. So, yes, it had happened before and was possible but confirmation was essentially cinsidered a formality
You’ve become Sins, the Destroyer of Cinema.
surprised you didnt take a sin off for the fact that when oppie says " we will know in exaclt 1 hour 58 minutes" the nuke scene ends at 1:58 minutes into the movie ( depending on the cut you have, for me it was like 3 seconds early but still
Jeremy on fire, sinning a movie he actually loves, and even giving a nod to The Prometheus School Of Running Away From Things?? HELL YEAH
The “28 Years Later” line, and math, was pure genius!
Thomas Shelby creating the atomic bomb is something I had no idea about but I’m way here for it. Now I have become peaky blinder the destroyer of worlds
By order of the Peaky Fucking Heimers!
I'm not surprised by Robert Capa creating a bomb - it is, like, his main expertise.
Tbh it would be in keeping with RDJ's character to correct Oppy on the pronunciation of his name the first time even if Oppy said it correctly
texas hold'em, or just "hold'em" came into being sometime (potentially) in the 50's or 60's, so for a person in an historical biopic to say "pocket aces" would have been incongruous, like a guy wearing a rolex in a western - ding
Oppenheimer: "Kitty? Kitty??" Cinemasins: "...That's a baby." i knew it was coming. still quality content.
How can you not hear the difference in the way Cillian pronounces "Strauss"? And he even played it twice ahahaha 🙄😅
He is losing his hearing
Completely different pronunciations, for sure!
CinemaSins guy is hearing impaired.
Well he did mispronounce los Alamos directly after hearing so he must have hearing problems
14:33 the flask was clearly on the floor before the purse fell down
Dangit. Now I want to watch Oppenheimer again.
My great grandpa worked at Los Alamos as a scientist. My grandpa told me that sometimes, Mr Oppenheimer would just walk into the house and have dinner with the family. (Edit. Grammar)
That’s the best ending sentence in CinemaSins history.
At 10:01 you can hear Robbin Williams, i know its not him but dammit my ears perked the hell up when i heard it
Whoa!
I couldn’t stop hearing Robin throughout the whole movie! It was uncanny.
*I would like the world to know that the movie "Godzilla Minus One" is the sequel to Oppenheimer.*
The Godzilla roar at the end was perfect😂
I have a lot of mixed feelings about this film but the staging of the original Los Alamos lab is fantastic. My grandfather is now retired from the Los Alamos National Lab and lives just outside in White Rock, NM. I've visited a number of times and been to all of the museums, the boys school lodge (which they shot in for the movie) and it all looks perfect.
I think this is pretty much the first movie based off a true story Cinemasins has ever done. No movie truly is without sin
they did EEAAO 🤭 (it _could_ be nonfiction-in some universe, somewhere, at some time)
And they sinned a bunch of shit that shouldn’t be sinned and ignored things that should be because they don’t actually do their jobs anymore, they just put together something to throw out and call it a day
10:26 Omg it’s the head elf from the Santa Clause! I kept looking at him and I couldn’t place him until now.
12:00 Except there were many spies in the Manhattan Project and the Soviets absolutely could not have built a nuke by 1949 without them.
ur expecting too much from someone who cherry picks movies for entertainment
@@Ginrikuzumathat’s exactly what it is. Entertainment.
No just Vivian Fuchs
@@RichardTLDR Hall? Greenglass? They were arguably the most important alongside Fuchs as they provided different aspects of the program. But you had others like Koval and Seborer that were of lesser importance.
@@RichardTLDR Klaus Fuchs was the spy discovered at Los Alamos. There were other spies at other locations involved in the Manhattan Project. This assumes that western counter-intelligence discovered them all.
As much as I enjoyed the movie, the editing game me whiplash. There are so many characters in a 3 hour movie that we jump between that I was exhausted by the end of it.
Nolan Movies are always watch twice
It just never let you rest it just bombards you with stuff 😂
I can't say I felt the same... I knew very well who everyone was after the 8th time I watched the movie... (No that's not a joke, I loved it so much I would go alone every weekend and watch it)
Cinemasins explained why Oppenheimer was the best candidate to lead the Manhattan Project in a single sentence better than the movie could in 3 hrs.
Ding!
ONE exposition scene where some lackwit asks his aid "Tell me about this guy" as they walk down a hallway. Not Nolan, NO SIR. Infuriatingly close to a great director.
Taking Kyoto off the list because of cultural significance and that the person honeymooned there actually DID happen. It’s pretty well documented and having been to Kyoto I’m glad the US didn’t drop the bomb there.
Also the USA didn't want to accidentally flash fry the Emperor, as they needed someone alive to surrender
@@braydenfarrell1177 the emperor moved to Tokyo in 1868, so that's not a reason to avoid hitting Kyoto.
Seeing the Atomic Bomb go off in IMAX is hands down on of the best theatre experiences ever! Really hope Cinemasins can cover Godzilla Minus One.
I agree! Seeing it in IMAX was the best way to watch it.
Yes Cinemasins, Göttingen is a real place 😊 It's a German university town and I happen to live here. Liebe Grüße :)
Me too 😊 LG ^^
The guy is sinning the actual historical events is crazy
I'm glad this book reading, movie colab went down. Kind of a rough movie to do, I would think, but the video was amazing. Now do Fritz the cat.
Sentence: GODZILLA That Killed Me There JAJAJAJAJA
well there goes tokyo
I have been waiting for you guys to get around one ever since episode.
3:26 They're not saying the same thing. Oppie is pronouncing the vowel like you would with "brass". RDJ is pronouncing it like you would with "cross"
I laughed so hard at the “Godzilla” sentence 😅😂🤣
A major issue I had with the movie was about Strauss. He was a much more complex character than what is shown in the movie (even though rdj hit it out of the park it only shows the political ambition and his machiavellianism in the political arena, while leaving out some of the positive impacts he had). He advocated for helping refugees before and during WW2 and helped create Atoms for Peace, which led to peaceful utilization of nuclear energy in multiple countries after the war. Aholes can be good people and/or do good things and good people can be aholes and/or do ahole things. Oppenheimer himself demonstrates this. I think leaving out this complexity about Strauss should have been highlighted as a sin, though to be fair the movie is about Oppenheimer and not Strauss. I just think RDJ's performance would have been even more interesting if they had captured that "duality". Of course the movie would have probably been longer then lol.
Cillian did say strauss not straws. Time to get your hearing checked lol
I'm fairly certain I remember hearing that the narrator for Cinemasins is partially deaf. Which is why they always use subtitles
I heard Straws both times as well, all five times I watched the film in the theatre
This is so good!!!! One of the best cinemasins. esp the edits at the end
they left out John von Neumann, about the 2nd most important person in creating the bomb
Jim Carrey meme: "Oh boy... Here we go!"
"How 'bout them poisoned apples" was classic
This has to be the one where Nolan finally gets his Oscar!
for the newspaper (7:17) the color scenes are subjective so the invasion of Poland is highlighted more due to Oppenheimer's subjective remembering that as the overlining topic of the paper, so its possible the inaccuracy with the real paper is consistent with Robert just remembering the invasion
This was the best video in a long time, Jeremy. I really appreciate the Dr Strangelove references. Mermaid gap lmao.
“Can’t I complain about something?” -67 “dings” already exist💀
Been waiting for this!!Thanks Jeremy !
I'm not sure if it should be a sin that Feynman only makes a super brief appearance in the movie (he's the one with the bongos in the physicist party scene) or if it's just an Easter egg for people who know who Feynman is. I mean, the movie isn't about him, but he did get up to a lot of shenanigans at Los Alamos.
I remember him as being on one of the scientists that investigated the cause of the Challenger explosion.
Though Feynman did get up to a lot in Los Alamos he would’ve been the first to admit that his role on the project was a lot of the lower level stuff working under Hans Bethe (when he was invited to los alamos he was still in college and didn’t even have his degree yet ). He also did have the scene refusing to use the goggles which was a fun mention.
You know it’s a good day when cinema sins uploads
7:44 Molotov Ribbentrop pact of 1939 , not Hitler Stalin pact. Also what part of “neutral” is dividing Poland in 1/3 and 2/3.
7:39 noooo... did you just randomly rename Molotov - Ribbentrop Pact? 🤣 DING!!!!!
23:38 Lost it laughing at the timing of Josh Hartnett turning around and leaving after realizing he's outnumbered in the "movies named after multiples of 10" department.
That additional 200,000 sins hurt my soul. Really wanted this to go under 100. You should have removed them later for the Trinity scene
The additional sins reflect the nearly 200,000 Japanese civilians who were killed by the bombs, and therefore cannot be removed.
People forget how fanatical and dangerous the Japanese people were perceived as then. Kamakaze was considered an honor and Emporer Hirohito was considered to be a God and of divine providence. The US Believed they would have to go to every island and the mainland to force a surrender taking months or years and far more casualties. The bomb itself was considered to not be the heavy moral choice it is now. Oppenheimer saw the ramifications earlier than about everyone.
The lazarus pit sin needs slight adjustment. The chanting you are referring to was from the dark knight rises when Bruce Wayne was escaping from the prison in a pit.
19:33 That escalated quickly
Hollywood needs the old-school auteurs like Nolan more than ever
Who is John F Kennedy? He's just some retired Navy PT Boat skipper
Honestly? I hated the movie. It was a hot mess. But the biggest sin for me was the bomb going off - it looked like a tiny petrol bomb, and that's exactly what it was. Corridor Crew's analysis of the bomb explosion scene was a masterful dissection, I'll never understand why people praised the bomb effect when it was so piss poor. The Slow Mo Guys could've done a better job.
0:19 Twinkling stars can be caused by space gases in between the stars and earth, not just earths orbit.
And I KNOW, you have a MTG deck built and ready to battle.
I appreciate the 200,000 sins to remind us all that at the end of the day, behind the awards and the Barbenheimer and the fantastic acting, real lives were lost and destroyed that week in 1945. Important to remember somberly in our hearts
Alongside with the 10,000,000 destroyed in the years leading up to it during the War in the Pacific. War is hell; we just get better at it as we evolve.
lmao The Godzilla sentence was gold
Been waiting for this!
Two that you missed.. the streetcar in San Francisco isn’t on any tracks. And the scene after the Trinity explosion shows an American flag that has too many stars on it for its time.
Anyone else get Robin Williams vibes when ever Oppenheimer talked? Swear that’s where Cillian Murphy got his American accent from.
English accent? The accent he's putting on for Oppenheimer is an American accent, not English. And Cillian Murphy's native accent is Irish.
@@SanctusPaulus1962 good catch meant American and have updated it. Thanks
Awesome job, guys!
I very nanosecond after I saw this, I had anticipated Cinema Sins doing their 'one of a kind' assessment lol.
Thanks for being one of the few people to point out Strauss's perspective. I'm not justifying what he did, but it's important to know Oppenheimer was insufferable to most.
My hot bean water has caffeine in it, and caffeine is worth imbibing.
Tea and soda have caffeine, too. But they actually taste good
You keep your hot leaf water, I"ll keep my hot bean water thanks@@thrackerzodthefandomnerd4267
Fellow Dutch person here. I was really expecting a mayor sin for the scene in which Oppenheimer supposedly speaks Dutch. Everyone in the theater was waiting for that scene beforehand to try and understand what he was saying. I´ve heard Cillian Murphy recited over 3000 Dutch words for that specific scene. He really should´ve put more time in trying to adequately speak Dutch so that a real Dutch person could understand it. You know, because that´s supposedly whats happening in the lecture he´s giving in Leiden.
So he's got the different words right by themselves, but not together. Is that it?
I read "American Prometheus", and if I remember correctly it mentioned that Oppenheimer learned Dutch by himself in a short amount of time. So I would suppose that's why he knew the words and grammar, but not how to pronounce it, since he didn't speak Dutch with anyone before that lecture
the pronunciation was completely off @@TheDanishGuyReviews
Wow! You are on fiiiire Jeremyyy! Haven’t laughed this hard in a while! Thank you 😂😂😂❤
Lmao this was awesome thanks Cinema Sins 😂
I honestly thought this would never have been sinned because it is historical
History has sins
It's still a written narrative with plenty of artistic license. It's not a documentary; hell, you can sin a documentary, especially if it's by Michael Moore.
I was literally just thinking this yesterday.
Of course they will mostly stay away from these large epic historical movies. But they still love movies like the rest of us and can’t help show their love appreciation to the craft
The Sanskrit part deserved extra sins for putting a holy book in that context
This is hands down one of the best cinema sins in ages. I haven’t laughed this hard in a long time. Well done guys.
Well i disagree with sin #38. There is actually an idea to support the fact that all the glasses are half full. First. It's good story telling. You don't want to know all the characters backgrounds to why exactly would a glass be full, empty or somewhere inbetween anyway. It would draw too much attention to the characters themselves as to why would an old mans glass be nearly empty, maybe hes just old and needs to drink a lot or hes sick. Second. Having the glasses half full also creates a bit of tension in the scene. Maybe the hearing is so intense that no one hasn't had any sip yet. And third and more likely they took an offscreen recess at the hearing and the catering changed their glasses and filled them half full. Given the 1950s this would actually make sense. So one sin off for that it actually might had happened. That's a cinemawin.
I can confirm: Göttingen is a real place in Germany and is a really lovely city with loads of history and academic stuff, also lot of good bars 🌝
Boom goes the mushroom cloud🍄🍄🍄
Nice to have you back Chris
The writing of your jokes has gotten really good guys, keep it up
The Atomic Bomb was going to be built, regardless of when or by whom.
Oppenheimer and Barbie memes were pure unadulterated awesomeness.
This KZhead critique is a sin in of itself. lol 😂 Another great installment guys a I enjoy your work.
Two points 1. The Stimson honeymoon thing is real. He did vacation there with his wife and that gave him a respect for how beautiful and important to the Japanese it was. 2. Sure, there were other ways to end the war, but they were very bloody and would’ve taken longer. Each day the war went on, Japan was massacring 1000s of Southeast Asian civilians.
Me, my dad and my sister enjoyed the movie but my mom totally disliked it
Hoyte van Hoytema doing BLADE RUNNER is all I want
Nah i still cum over Deakins cinematography in 2049 leave him for the franchise
These always make my day so much humor piled in each one and they seem to get better as time goes on better n better 😂🎉❤
All these years later and you guys still got it 😂😂