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EDIT: The video has been edited to cutout all the parts where John digs into Sam and edits removed dunking on him. I'm glad the changes were made. I wish it was acknowledged in some way, but I'm glad. Thanks to the team 👍 Sam getting dunked on the whole video sucks. Especially digging into him for not catching a 300lb slab getting married to gravity. Damn.
Supposed to be funny. They have a good laugh about it
Define: Facetious
@@AAK007 There's trying to be funny, and there's being mean spirited. The fact that so many folks are sticking up for Sam is proof.
That's how friends treat each other.
@@KB3AOL When you say it 2 hours later after you've cooled down, it's facetious. When you say it immediately in the heat of the moment it's mean spirited. I don't doubt they're friends and they're probably fine....but I would have liked to have seen resolution in the video showing as much. Sam's face afterward sure looked like he was feeling like John was pissed at him.
If the table fix vid doesn't include a public apology to Sam, I'm out. There's plenty of other talented woodworkers to watch.
Same. And the apology better be sincere, not just to appease the viewers. A bonus for Sam couldn't hurt for putting up with Johns moods.
Dude, yes, this 10000%. It feels like working with this dude is super super toxic, but he's probably used to people putting up with it because of the YT fame. It's disgusting. Sam, don't let this guy define your worth! You're a talented guy with a ton of potential!
unsub for Sam!
Editing the video to remove everything that you got called out for is Shady AF.
well seeing as they edited out his freaking out on sam, I'm guessing that is the apology.
Editing the video to remove the abusive comments towards Sam (as well as when John basically asked Sam to kill himself, in what was the worse shop safety I've ever seen) without an apology comes across as an attempt to hide it. This way there is no evidence of the abuse and John can easily brush it under the rug instead of actually doing better. This is what serial abusers do. You can bet the Sam is still getting yelled at and dunked on, you just won't see it now. The reactions from John aren't jokes, that's pretty clear. You don't edit out a bunch of "jokes" like this. When someone gets called out and they hide what they are being called out over, it's not progress. You can't be a better wordworker John unless you fix your mistakes, instead of just hiding them all the time. The biggest mistake you made in this project was having no fucking plan. You clearly had not sat down with the team to go through the steps of the slab. That's what the guys in the video you watched do, not just scream at people when they can't read your mind. 90 percent of running a good shop is planning. You're not running a good shop.
wow, dodged a bullet on this channel. outta here
I only saw the cut video, and even I thought, "Man, he needs to lighten up. What an abusive asshole." I can't imagine what the original video showed.
Been peed off long ago with this guys bully, crass behaviour. Unsubscribed then it came back on again. He has no backbone as a man.
Boy. Johns's “True Colors” really came out in this video. Didn't they? I understand things getting a little more tense while doing large projects like this one. Honestly, most people do. What most don't do is bag on their Employees while also being passively aggressive. That's a good way to lose Great employees.
As someone who has run teams from five or six to over a hundred people in the past, I agree with the comments that you need to apologise to Sam, and not just for the bit about stopping the slab, when your immediate reaction should have been "Are you OK? I'm glad you didn't do anything stupid like trying to catch it". In fact, you should have planned for something like this and told your guys quite clearly "if it starts to go, just get the hell out of the way". You should also avoid throwing tantrums like that in front of your staff. Obviously what happened was heartbreaking, but as the leader you suck it up, make sure everyone else is OK, then throw a fit in private, not in front of your team. I appreciate it might be good content, but it's not good for you as a leader or for your team. A good manager always puts the welfare and wellbeing of their team first, especially in a potentially dangerous environment like a workshop and, quite honestly, Sam already looks like he's scared witless of you. I'm a big guy too, and we sometimes don't realise how imposing a large, confident man can be to those around them, and while you are probably just joking, it really doesn't look to me like Sam finds it funny. When you make people nervous and jumpy, that's when accidents happen, which is exactly what happened here. You constantly badgering your team to hurry up and mocking them for being slow lead to mistakes being made with the result seen in the video. You're former NFL, I'm former army, we spent a lot of time in environments where such "banter" is seen as normal and you give as well as you get, but a lot of "normal" people don't see it the same way and you really might want to consider that. It's entirely possible Sam's totally OK with it, but that is not the perception that your videos put across, and as a wise man once said, "it's not what you do that's important, but what you're seen to be doing" and, frankly, you're coming over as a bit of a bully. People don't quit bad jobs, they quit bad managers.
Have to agree!
Sam said "I'm scared".
OH HELL YEAH...........YOU NAILED IT STEAMGEEZER
Good articulate comment!
as someone who has full on walked out on a bad manager - I concur (I'm not yet at that part in the video but seemingly from the comments I can piece together what's 'going' to happen) - being treated every single day I worked at that job like I was the shit on the sole of his shoe wore me down like nothing else. He was a disgusting person (not just as a manager but as a person) and expected everyone else to clean up after him - I was NOT hired as a cleaner, I was hired to digitise all of his accounts (he was an accountant), which I did as a casual worker but when he started taking the p*ss by getting me to clean up his *literal* shit in the toilet, his *literal* condoms he left on the office floor and the fact that he would routinely call me every derogatory name under the sun on a daily (hell, hourly) basis - I told him to stuff his job and find someone else to do it because I was done and walked out. Now I get that's not quite what happened here (at least, from your comment) but I agree that people don't quit shitty jobs, they quit shitty people (who happen to be managers) and I've noticed this trend in JM's persona for the last .. few months videos, it doesn't really come as a surprise to see people - essentially - having had enough of it on another's behalf. "Dramatic content" shouldn't over ride the need for human decency. Regardless of your individual background where "banter" may or may not be "normal". edit: I got to the part where it happens and it full on gave me anxiety, I'd have walked out (as Sam) and pondered my career choices. He said "I'm scared", I said "I'm terrified" and I wasn't even there (not to mention, we only saw the EDITED version, which I think scares me more because what else went on that we _didn't_ see?)
I like that no one cares about how to fix the table and are just shitting on John’s behavior, he deserves it in this video. Lighten up dude. Put together a better plan before just stressing out your guys.
things fucking up is why we watch. football player likes wood. lol
him jumping in and not putting a plan together and prepping people beforehand was really hard to watch, setting people up to fail is not good.
@@customecraftycarpenting7471 if you enjoy watching people fail and drama unfold you must have a very unhappy life. I watch to see creation take place and hopefully learn something from a well laid plan. Anyone entertained by drama usually enjoys it to justify their own drama, or they’re just twisted people.
Agreed - I have a shop and although I like the projects in his videos I find his planning painful and employee treatment painful to watch. These are related - one trickles down from the other. Part of being good in a shop is not just getting better with your hands and probem solving but all your boss skills including how you organize, interact with employees think about safety while doing so. After all the videos and projects that have been made John seems to have no concept of this until all the viewers have to point it out to him
@@carpenter1138 The other issue I noticed when they bend the first leg is he's trying to do it and doesn't have any ability to direct anyone else since both his hands are in use and he's busy. would have been loads better if he instructed someone else to do that so he could supervise and direct. or again explain beforehand and give everyone tasks and explain what would be required of them.
He edited out the douchebagery?? He was rude to Sam the entire video and then shouted at him for not catching it when it fell, and now all that has been edited out. That's really shady man
How would you know that if it’s edited out?? Trying to catch you I’m just trying to understand.
I saw the video when it first came out. You can see from all the comments how much backlash he got, then he went and edited it to make it look better
@@kingconcookiethat’s weird asf but even with the edits he did come off as rude yelling at his employees every time he was stressed
Even after the editing..... I would not want to work for this guy..
First time viewer, so I am going to give my 5 cents worth! I have managed 100's of staff members and I have never spoken down to any one of them like this. He may be a talented fella with the wood, but his management skills leave a lot to be desired. In Australia, if he'd had spoken down to a person like he did, a man or in some cases a woman, is gonna drop you on your ass! He swears consistently, and has anger issues. At the end of the day, the only thing one can be in control of is ones own attitude. I'd never subscribe to a channel like this, I do not understand why anyone would!
So this version has been edited to remove the scene where John asks Sam why he didn't think to "catch it". Gotta say, seeing this behavior is disappointing to say the least. In Sam's defense, he did stick his arm/hand out but quickly realized he was in danger. I would have let it drop too. Sam's arm being broken (or possibly severed) would have cost way more than a $2K slab of wood. Good quick thinking "Sam".
So now it's here for posterity so anyone who reads this comment can imagine it's worse than it is. So now you edited out reality and what we have is false facts, fake news BS. Typical for the times. What we should have is a video with an apology. I wouldn't treat an employee like that, but I saw the original and I did not thok it was that bad in the moment. But an apology was called for. So no apology, BYE John. You're a good woodworker, just be that.
If it’s edited out, how would you know?
@@mikej5959 It was in the original video when in dropped last week. Read through the comments. He got tons of backlash for how he treated the guys after it broke. So they took those parts out.
I saw the original video as well. He is not lying John was a giant ass and got on Sam for not trying to stop the slab from falling. Lost a lot of respect for him seeing his true character come through. I’m betting the guy John hired as an editor received a lot of heat for putting the video out as it originally was.
Editing it out makes this even worse. I don’t even care how this plays out. Unsubscribed last week. Checked in because someone liked a comment. Now I see it’s edited out, but it still doesn’t change the shit show this build was, filmed or not, uploaded or not, edited or not. It happened. And that’s a problem.
Dude. You were being a dick to your staff through the whole video, and then you get mad at a small guy for jumping out the way of a heavy slab of wood...
Here’s the fix needed: An apology video to Sam.
So, for those who are watching the video now and don't know why people are saying John should apologize to Sam: After the slab falls, by the end of the video, John says "didn't you even think of catching it" to Sam. The he throws a fit and doesn't say a word for two hours apparently. He cut off the part he said that after he got huge backlash in the comments.
Once the video is posted, you can’t really undo that correct? You’d have to post a whole new video and then these comments wouldn’t be here
@@mikej5959 you can edit out parts of the video like he did, but the comments aren't changing.
@@paula5540 because editing it out isnt the problem lol. Toxicity towards your employees and sugesting someone should throw themselves in front of a 300lb piece of wood is the problem. it's not that hard. whats not to get?
They've edited the video. Originally John asked him why he didn't try to catch the slab. That part's gone now.
thanks for confirming that, its what i guessed from seeing the combination of the video and the comments but i wasnt sure
If this is as close as Sam gets to an apology I’m 100% out
Thanks, I was wondering what people were on about and I couldn't see him having a go at Sam.
It seems like snippets all throughout the video have been cut out too. John was pretty much on one in this video and 90% of the backhanded comments have been taken out. Basically makes everything look MUCH worse.
I watched it after the video, and the whole video just feels off. John has always been kind of a douche, but here it just feels like his abusing his position. They're not his friends, they're his employees.
That reaction when it broke wasn't right man ur employees safety should be your #1 priority in moment's like that
My grandad passed in 1985 sadly and a few years earlier he gave me some advice that's lived with me ever since. He said, "if you drop something let it drop, you can do more harm by trying to stop it!" Wise words from a wise man. I'm sorry John but the health and wellbeing of your employees is paramount over anything else!!
I always say "a dropped knife has no handle" Clearly that slab was heavy, and could have damaged anyone under it or trying to grab it. Plus now the project will be 2 episodes instead of one! :D
Exception: babies
Your grandpa def lived before cell phones cuz I've fumbled and snatch saved my cell phone prob a dozen times. Oh and yea one of my kids once too
Epoxy
@@yeahitskimmelyour child is not 300 lbs thp
John, Im seeing the edited video but from the comments I gather you gave Sam hell for not thinking to catch the table. He definitely thought to catch it as you see his hand go out to grab it but smartly realized there was nothing he could actually do. You however are the one who dropped the table. The first time it was clamped up, the table was a bit higher and you stayed up there. This time, the table was lower and the split second you put your weight on the table is when the clamp shot out. You need to address Sam's good decision to let the table fall, safety first. As you said, you have 2 slabs. You only have 1 Sam.
this comment is way too undervalued! this should be top comment
Editing the video to hide the horrible way he treated Sam instead of being a man about it and addressing it. Very lame choice.
Say hey big dog, I'm a machinist for the second largest countertop shop in the Kansas City Metro area, but even still it's a small business. When shit happens at our snap business, the first thing the Managers check on is the employees, not the slabs or the machines, they make sure their people are okay. That's what keeps employees. Not giving a fuck about your employees mental or physical health while even playfully scolding them about things they can't fix, is a pretty sure way to find another camera man and another shop helper. Nobody wants to get bitched at for being human at work, John.
I agree completely.
Oh give me a break, Sam obviously was fine and I am sure John made sure off camera as well. It is also only human to be frustrated when shit happens.
That thing would have been like a giant flyswatter.
The workman's comp would have cost more than the slab, anyway. It's just wood. Sam is a whole human being.
@@8asw8 Hush.
" You didn't even think to try and like stop it" ... I BEG YOUR PARDON?
Sam (?) would have been squashed , it was good he jumped out of the way, sad for the table but good for the person
Im glad this is #1 comment, owes that kid an apology
Even John would have probably been on the floor, maybe not injured, but on the floor for sure. Sam was even holding the guide... Guide + heavy slab sounds like something bad
Stitch it
Things said in the heat of the moment tend to not be fueled by logic, he clearly doesn't blame them for not catching it, as he said, shit happens.
Maybe if you weren't such a dick to your employees they'd be able to communicate better during stressful situations. Instead they're most likely More worried about looking or sounding stupid just makes things worse.
John is good at finding ways to cover his mistakes. They edited the original video. So, I guess we can just all forget how he treated Sam. All good now john!
I would have gotten mad at my employee if they had actually tried to get under that falling table
Yeah. "Don't die" should be a reasonable policy in any shop.
I guess he feels the same , but it was a spur of the moment thing to say.
I build expensive custom displays for stores. I tell all my guys, if something is falling, get out of the way. We can build a new display but it's hard to build a new you.
It's a bunch of dudes in a shop. It's all good. No doubt, at the end of the day, he knows dodging was the right move. In the moment however, it's like "WTF man!? All ya had do do was jump on the grenade!" This is just how blue collar men communicate.
@@ck_sidekick8306 Sure, but they could have chosen to edit the video in several different ways, and this choice made John look like a bit of a dick.
I’ve always thought John would be a crappy boss to work for. This vid kind of proved that. Not just with catching the slab, but also all the other little comments he makes to his employees. He’s very rude.
Hence why Jordan and the other Sam skipped town.
Have to say that the interactions with his staff are most of often the worst parts of the videos. Some banter is funny, but I do not see much going John's way. And when you know only how to dish out, something is not right.
He treated the little guy like the stereotypical trainee who gets shit from everyone and blamed for everything.
Always felt the same way, which is probably half the reason I'm not subscribed. The builds are cool, plus I love shop banter and messing with each other but I don't think I could ever work in a shop like this where he's always playing the blame game or being rude when people are just trying to learn and help.
@@ilglejn Exactly. Seems times have changed and people aren't going to put up with as much before finding a more positive environment to work in.
Last video of yours I watch. I have noticed it in other videos but this one was crazy. When you treat your employees like idiots, it doesnt make them want to work harder, it makes them want to look for work elsewhere. How about planning a little bit and setting up the clamps you need before moving a giant slab around. Every single mistake made here was your fault and would have been easily avoided had you assembled the team, explained the plan and asked for input/ opinions. If I were in that position, I would have walked away and let you deal with your own problems. By the way, that clamp setup with an aluminum extrusion was bound to fail, you were clamping on a sharp edge, how about using something flat, anything at all would have been better.
He treats us great man. It’s a KZhead video, take it with a grain of salt. Wish you the best David 🤘🏼
@@Joe.shotit Im glad to hear that. However, when your entire business revolves around public facing content, its all about perception. Im not choosing to boycott this content because I stand with the employees in some heroic act, you are grown men and can make your own choices. Im doing it because its hard to watch. KZhead videos are supposed to be entertaining and fun, sometimes you can even learn something. Watching John act like a child and never learn from his own mistakes doesnt check those boxes. By the way, sure sounds a whole lot like John asked you to do damage control in the comments. For what its worth, I used to work for a guy like this and it did nothing but prevented me from learning and growing as a maker. After leaving and starting my own business I realized just how much I was being held back. This was the first comment I have posted on youtube in probably 10 years which says something. Good luck!
@@DavidBlum425 you’re 100% right public perception is huge for us. But as you know, you can’t make everyone happy all the time. It’s never enough for everyone. So balancing that line will never be perfect, so what you see to you might be too much, and to others be perfectly fine. It is a game that not many people “win” at doing. As far as damage control, you’re the first person Iv commented to and trust me I could’ve commented to many and there’s been nasty ones. Thanks for the civil convo David. Best of luck as well🤝
I've never liked and then disliked a video so quickly. What a terrible first impression of a channel, this guy seems like an absolute monster to work for.
Pour it. Also, you owe Sam a public apology. Ain't no way he could catch that while holding a track. Don't make him feel like shit for protecting himself. Sheesh.
"I used to be an offensive lineman in the NFL". Now he's just offensive to his staff.
Funny, search him up and it looks like he never made the starting NFL line up. Just stayed on the training roster
Wow, he edited out bitching at Sam for not even "thinking" of catching that slab. You're a coward, John. Own up to your mistakes and make a public apology.
Editing out the part he mistreated Sam apparently was easier than putting in an apology 🙄
as a matter of fact, YES, the youtube editor makes it very easy to clip out a section of video, you can't add to a video without making a new version and uploading it as a separate video.
Jhon being flattened in the comments harder than Sam would've been irl if he tried catching that table.
unsub for Sam!
Did they edit the video cause I didn’t hear him say anything about catching it
@@mine6312Something like you didn't think to stop it, or you didn't think to catch it... right after it fell
@@mine6312 HOLEY CRAP YES THEY DID. WOW! The whole sad 20 second bit/ song from 28:40 to 29:10 was changed! Scumbag Malecki stealth edit to make himself not look like a total jerk. I believe his actual quote to Sam was, "you didn't even try to stop it?", but when this dude edits it out....
John DEFINITELY owes Sam a Major public apology for that SHID!!! He already belittle hims in almost every video 😤😤
the slab is overshadowing the earlier clamping dig.
An apology needs to happen. Doesn't need to be public, it happened between them not us.
@Kat-zk6qy John's tantrum happened "with us," so should the apology.
28:38 you re-edited the video.. really?? What can't handle that you were in the wrong john? Why lost it in the 1st place then?? Have you apologise to sam yet???
Rather than posting an apology to Sam, you just edited the video and removed the parts that make you look bad. Wow.
i just found this channel today, damn this isn't a good first impression
@@turbodudeit used to be a really good channel. The older videos were actually informative and entertaining. Now it seems like each video is just how big of a tantrum can be thrown.
Even if Sam wasn't holding the track for the saw, the thing fell in an instant. 'You didn't even think to try and catch it?' No, he didn't think at all. He reflexively reacted in a split second and made the correct decision to save himself from serious injury or worse. And to even have a chance of catching that thing safely you'd have to be a huge mfer, with free hands, in perfect position, and also not have the human reaction of jumping out of the way of huge, heavy things falling toward you very quickly. Maybe don't rely on a couple of small clamps below the center of gravity of an object that weighs hundreds of pounds that you have standing on end? Maybe don't blame your employees for executional/planning/managerial issues.
Not to mention john weighs at least 250 and he literally JUMPED on a table that has a peice of a tree clamped to it but its sams fault it broke!!
@@dustinlalonde8460where did you see him jump?
@@brandonjohnson7559 u did u watch the video???
@@dustinlalonde8460 yeah I did, go watch it again. When the table fell he wasn’t even on the table.
@Vernoningram I concur.
John, I think you're a funny, creative, and skilled dude, but... there has been a pattern over the past few vids that make me think something is up. Your treatment of Sam in this video while is horrific, it's hardly the first time. But more so, I've felt like your vids are getting more stressed... It's less fun as a viewer when you abuse your employees. Teasing is fun, fine, and a normal part of a lot of environments. But... bruh. Make it right.
I honestly think this needs to be some sort of rage bait, its that bad. For them to edit it and say yeah this looks good upload it is mind blowing. He took on a project he knew nothing about and seemed like he half assed every party of it, which is fine, but don't expect a different outcome than this. The man is smarter than that I would hope. I have been a subscriber since 2020 and this is a very close second to the video where everything was blurred/censored in terms of difficult to watch.
i have noticed his behavior in these videos too! makes me wonder if the editor is trying to tell us something.
John had very little clue what he was doing and yet expected sam to know what to do.
After a few days worth of reflection, you simply edit the video to remove all evidence? haha, dude!! There's only around a few 100 thousand people that have already seen it! Anyone still think it was a joke? 🤣 Sam, I hope you find yourself a better working environment or at least demand danger pay from this clown!
Good job Sam for not getting hurt. I worked 10 years building houses with a boss like that. I quit a few times but he was my brother. You're young and seem like a good worker I'm sure you'll find your own place in the world soon enough.
10 years building houses and your hands are still soft
F** it, Im going for broke and taking out a tooth with me. Workmen's comp should be abolished. Turned us all into a bunch of p****s. If it was me that worked multiple days on it, I would have jump in the way, if I got hurt, let the VA pay my ex-special operator azz medical bills.
@@user-jk9rg9mc9kso you cry about workman's comp being a thing while getting basically the most important benefits of workman's comp through the VA? tell us your a hypocrite without telling us your a hypocrite.
@@GiassThisAt least their brain isn't as smooth as yours.
unsub for Sam!
I never agree with the people that say "I would hate to work for him" UNTIL I heard him say "you didn't even think to try to stop it?" Fuck off dude... I'm the supervisor in a sign fabrication shop and I always tell the guys "if it starts to go don't try to stop it just get out of the way and let it go it cost alot less to bondo a dent then it does repair a broken bone or stitch up a damn head.. and if it's a total loss it's way easier to tell the boss we gotta start over vs the boss tell your wife you got crushed under a 40' tall chunk of aluminum
LOL yeah, that all made sense instantly
That is absolutely right. 👍🏻 Seems like you are a better Boss than John.
The best safety glasses in the world can't keep you from getting hurt in unsafe environment.
Homeboy really made a video where he comes across as a huge prick and still uploaded it.
Actually insane that they edited this together and still thought it was a good upload. I wonder how much abuse doesn't get caught on camera or is edited out from the start.
POUR IT! I think Sam IS pretty athletic dodging that 300 pound wooden linebacker!
John wouldve tackled it 🤣
It's not dropping on him though it's falling/rolling towards him I'm pretty sure he could have easily held it up.but when you hear the noise and see it move instinct kicks in.
@@aaroncraven07 more like... he was told to stand underneath it while holding a track saw/ seems like his other option was to throw the track saw which it seems (based on the attitudes here) would have put him in hot water too. poor leadership and planning all around. using squeeze clamps and only two? they had plenty of time to clamp properly while setting this up and should have had a protocol for if it went down such as staying out of the way or having someone holding it at all times when it was vertical
Apologise to Sam, as you said "shit happens". And he's a tiny dude, might have been seriously injured if he would have attempted to get in the way of that huge piece of wood. GOOD thing he didn't try something stupid and get underneath that slab.
I am the only one, who is pretty sure, John said it as a joke. That he really didnt mean it? Thats why he left it in final cut? Because he thought that people will get it?
@@MichaelSzatmary no, he was serious. He also belittles Sam in almost every video.
John used to play in the nfl, he's used to poeple running into 300lbs not running away, big dudes always poke fun at us skinny guys but he didnt actually expect him to stop it, he would've been paying sam workers comp right now 😂
That thing would’ve definitely injured John if the places were swapped bc his dumb ass would’ve tried to catch it
John was lucky as Sam did not try to stop the slab otherwise it would become a personal injury at work leading to possible lawsuit.
you have edited this video to remove the words you shouted at your employee Sam - "Why didn't you try to stop it" - seriously -I really wonder if you dare to post the next video without a full public apology to Sam - ps just lucky you didn't start to cut that table end with that plunge saw as it would have resulted in you going to hospital due to your failure to adhere to common sense saftey - would hope you learn a lesson and are also MAN enough to make an apology to all your staff for your behaviour
My guy John didn't even think to do a wiggle test on the clamp. I was so confused when he stepped away without one and yep, there it goes...
Sam did react for a split second and thought about trying to catch it but he made the right call by just barely getting out of the way. Save your own life not the life of a table, good reaction Sam.
Yes , you see him think about it but his hands were full , just no time.
As the owner and boss of my company , I've learned a very important lesson watching this video , then reading everyone's comments. I have got to be a lot more careful with my attitude and planning. I typically do not care about falling objects versus employee health . Let it fall , I have insurance for that . But boy can I get worked up when my team is in a tight spot and we are in the super crunch type situation . I have got to be far more patient and develop my mentor attitude alot more . So to everyone who posted concerning that one situation , thank you. I'll take some lessons from it for my behavior , perspectives , and how and when I say things.
It's always easier to see and understand somebody else screw up than yourself!
I agree, it's easy to see the faults in others but it's not easy to see your own. When I was in training to take over an auto parts store when I was 20, I came in with the store manager at 8, first thing he said was that the rug was dirty and the pop cooler was low. The kid who opened at 7 mentioned that he was the one that closed last night alone, on a truck day when we're supposed to have 4, and that he stayed late enough to get the brake rotor pallet put away, and left right after because he had to be back to open... Manager and him had a back and forth where the kid finally said "You always point out the shit we miss, but you never notice that the customers love us and we break our backs because you can't schedule enough staff" kid ended up walking out. I took over the following week and made sure I got him back, made it very clear that if they get busy that they can call someone else to come and help or to call me and I'll come in. That kid took over when I left and last I heard he was taking classes to become a District Manager.
Or, take people on the internet for what they are and don't give a singular shit about their faulty uninformed opinions? The dynamic they have "on screen" and off could be completely different. What they choose to edit and show us does not show the WHOLE PICTURE. So take everything with a grain of salt and don't give in to the cancel warriors.
@@GOLD_FEVER brother this has nothing to do with cancel culture. The fact that you're even saying this tells me you've never been in a managerial position or worked at a company large enough where HR gets involved in shit. First of all, this was his idea and he has no real pre-planning for the actual project let alone safety. For him to then yell at them during the stressful situations like clamping was asinine. He even messed up when he tried to take over for clamping. Set aside whether he had the right to get pissed, he's risking his own business with the way he operated. Had one of his workers gotten hurt and wanted to sue its an open and shut case with them recording everything. They regularly violate a metric ton of OSHA regulations but for the most part the injury likely to occur is minor so noone really cares. This one was actual a wtf ridiculous moment.
@@godyamit I don't like Rule nazis and hard asses in general. That said, i don't like people who assume either. I am starting to think that everybody here reacted to a different video. Because i can't find a single part of this video where anybody is getting mad at anybody. Let alone taking it out on anybody.
FYI: Editing the parts out where John was being a total asshole does not make John not an asshole. Hopefully John has learned to be a better person after the feedback from the original video, instead of just making sure the asshole parts are edited out in the future.
I've always suspected this is the reason why his shop seems to be a revolving door of employees. Guys put up with it for a year or so to get the experience they need and move on to something better.
John, you're the boss and in charge for others "mistakes". You messed it up, no one else.
John fucks up after doing sketchy shit: 🤭🤪 Sam doesn’t catch a falling giant heavy table on his own: 🤬😤
💯 😂
I am an example of what happens when the person "catches it." (and this was thought out in advance by the boss but poorly)Two of use were taking directions from my boss (coincidentally named Jon) at the time at a popular children's museum in CA. I was new at the time so I didn't know much about the boss and trusted him. We were unloading an exhibit from a concrete loading dock and he said he would tip it over and the two of us could catch it because it was "light". The two of us could not tell either way by looking at it. When the Boss tipped it over it was so heavy that it slipped through the hands of the other guy across from me who was in his 60's. I was younger and stronger and managed to get ahold of it. Long story short It jerked me down to the floor and jammed 3 of my vertibrae together grinding part of them away and pinching nerves in the process. It turned out the exhibit weighed almost 450 lbs because they had put lead bricks(yes they exist) inside to weight it at the bottom. IN this case he blamed me for deciding to catch it when it slipped through the other guys hands. Over the next 2 months I lost the feeling in 2 of my fingers in my dominant hand, had severe neck pain and it heavily effected everything from my work to how I slept at night. Yes there was physical therapy and medical covered by the jobs but I will have pain for the rest of my life and there are chunks missing from 2 vertibrae and permanent nerve damage. Even as I type this one of my fingertips can't feel it when it hits the keys. 6 mos later I was fired for failing to meet work performance reviews. I went back to working for myself and have been happier ever since. When someone else is in charge of your safety they need understand what this means. Don't be a John or a Jon.
Try not kill your staff is what you should try.🤣
2 little clamps on a metal bar stuck in there sideways that was always going to let go. That's on John 100%. You can also see Sam wasn't really looking at it when it started to fall. He was also holding that track. Good job Sam. Fuck that slab. Don't be a dink John. The kid signed up to work in a woodshop and he's jumping off ladders and dodging huge slabs.
Seeing how he treats this Sam makes me wonder why the last Sam really left.
I wonder as well.
Bad boss: You didn't even think to try to stop it? Good boss: Is everybody ok?
The other Sam, Jordan... I'm sure the list goes on for people that are not filmed, Think he needs to do some self reflection to stop putting people down that clearly want to do the right thing.
that sam left because he has crazy potential and he actually started doing his own thing, awesome dude, starting a life.
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"You didn't tell me that." Yeah. He prolly did and you were not listening.
I hate when bosses act like tools to their employees. I've had many bosses and very few leaders. I've learned more from the leaders. So at the end of the day, pour it, stitch it, or stick it up your butt for all I care.
Was nervous the comments weren’t going to call put John’s behaviour being pretty damn terrible this video. Glad to see everyone coming to Sam’s defense!! We love you Sam!!!!
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bro wtf, John gets mad at Sam (who is holding the track saw that he was asked to grab) instead of planning out the cut like a professional. Typical manager tantrum. Why do I continue watching these videos?
Sam should call in OSHA and report some of that unsafe shit they do.
All I could imagine when John mentions the one guy disappearing when things get “fun”. No he dipped because he saw his boss doing dangerous nonsense and removed himself from the vicinity to not be part of it.
Scoreboard John: Owes an Apology to Sam - 5289...John's Hissy Fit - 3...
Piss poor planning. I feel bad for the guys trying their hardest to please boss man.
Man I hope this guy pays his team well because he treats them like shit, stressing out your team because of poor planning is one way to loose good guys fast
loose?
no amount of pay makes up for being treated like shit.
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@@blanerussell4418 Wow you sure got him good.
Sam was right to step aside. Trying to catch that falling slab could have seriously hurt him. The man lived after falling from a ladder, whilst saving your wedding photos. Give him props. Anyhow, I would suggest using a steel frame on the front side of the desk to help hold it in place. You could add a Malecki logo to the steel also. On the back side, I would consider another steel brace that also incorporates a couple of drawers for the desk. Stay safe, fam.
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Definitely pour it. It'll give it a cool unique look. I could also feel the tension and stress in this video. Just by what the comments are saying, i hope this is a learning and growing point for you john. Can't wait to see the final result!
This video has been edited. The original Sam took blame for. not catching the table that outweighed him by 100lbs. For 40 years I have been a commercial carpenter. On one of the largest commercial construction sites I worked on, a tower crane tipped over on a 60 story building. Caused tons of damage as you can imagine. Not one person got blamed or yelled at or asked, "why didn't you catch it?" The first words out of everyone who witnessed the accident was is everyone OK??? No concern was given to the damage cause by the cranes collapse. All that is replaceable - LIVES , FRIENDS, and FAMILY are not. No one was hurt. Everyone went home to their families that night.
Banter can only be called such when it's a two way street. When it's not a two way street, it's called abuse. this was not a two way street. Also, expecting Sam who's about 1/4 the size of John to "try to catch" that monstrous slab in order to "save it" is moronic. At best you've got an employee with broken bones. At worst, you're planning a funeral. Joking or not, that's not right. On any count. No one says "I'm scared" in that small of a voice unless they're honestly rattled and honestly scared. I was *terrified* and I wasn't even there. Not to mention the entire video triggered my PTSD and anxiety through the abuse John was hurling at his employees - as I've gone through abuse like that as an employee (in a different line of work) that still affects me now (clearly). No one deserves to be treated like that, spoken to like that, especially when the boss himself doesn't have a clue what he's doing and has no plan. Be a better human.
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Yup. Everyone is talking about the table falling but John's behavior was pretty bad since they started bending. This makes me wonder how he treats him employees / friends off-camera.
"Why didn't you try to stop it?!?!" Are you nuts? A multi hundred pound piece of wood is falling towards you, you move! If he tried to catch it, a broken bone would have been the best case scenario. I know people get invested in projects but it's never worth a debilitating injury or worse.
I came back to see an apology video and find that you made your editor go back and "fix" that part.... Crazy. Editor probably got yelled at for keeping that part in too. Now what would your sponsors think. Smh
Stitch it! Also, you owe Sam a public apology. Ain't no way he could catch that ,he's a tiny dude, might have been seriously injured if he would have attempted to get in the way of that huge piece
Sarcasm detection is pretty hard, but I feel confident my detector wasn't broken during that video
Tiny dude or 350lb dude you let that shit drop. No way anyone should be trying to catch that big slab while it was in motion.
Doesn't matter how big you are, it's never worth getting injured to protect your boss's bottom line.
@@Mount56 Public opinion is that your detector is very much broken or in need of fresh calibration.
@randomname4726 public opinion is typically so soft these days that they are bound to be offended by something, doesn't mean they're right.
Glad to see the respect for workplace safety in the comments, big agree on what most everyone is saying. Heat of the moment stuff gets said, do hope for a proper apology. I'd assume that's already been done. But an onscreen recap and correction goes a long way for a community not in the loop of everything real time. Regarding the fix to the project, I like the resin option.
I said this in another comment but if they really did stand there for 2 hours saying nothing, it sounded like a bit of shell shock for them. Even though he yelled about catching it, I think he actually ended more more relieved that he could yell at him after the fact then to have Sam laying underneath the thing. While that sounds messed up, its something I have heard from the older generation, that they may be yelling at you, but they are yelling cause they are relieved you aren't hurt.
i could watch only 10 minutes, then i had to stop because of the insane amount of cuts per minute. it feels chaotic
Getting out of the way of that falling slab was the best move! Safety first! You can fix or replace products. Now the possible resulting injury, medical bills, lost time from work, recovery, any investigations, fines (OSHA or similar if you fall into that category), all add up to be a lot more expensive than redoing or modifying the project. Who knows, if Sam did try to catch it and it still broke, that adds even more salt to the wound.
Especially after he JUMPED OFF A LADDER ONTO HIS KNEES TO CATCH A BEAM Jesus man you gotta check yourself
The beam catch was truly awesome. Give Sam a raise.
What video was the beam catch
@@sirmilesspitzoodle8929 one or two weeks ago, I think it was a home build
Ok, I'm not a woodworker, but that's a multi hundred pound slab of wood that you wanted Skinny Sam to get infront of John. Which would you rather have, a broken table, or an injured worker and a worker's comp case?
And or a lawsuit for unsafe working conditions.
He was being facetious. 🙄
@@KB3AOL He clearly wasn't.
@@KB3AOL No he was throwing a tantrum and blaming everyone but himself.
Glad I’m not the only one that thought John looked real bad in this video. Like he’s been frustrated before but this was straight up demeaning to his staff.
I would go crazy if my boss was yelling at me all the time
Pour it and promote Sam for doing the right thing! Give him a raise cuz he just saved you a boat load of money from an injury.
Pour it over words that say "Sorry Sam" to remind you that you need to treat Sam better and that you were the one making a mistake
First time and last time I watch one of your vids...wow...
Pour it!!! Imagine if John was standing up there and something went wrong with the tracksaw and lost an arm. I guess he cares more about the desk more than anybody's safety including his own.
If the next video isn’t a public apology to Sam, this will be the last video I watch on this channel.
I agree 100%! John treats Sam and his employees like shit!
Agreed
I already unsubscribed, what a DB of an employer
Agree
You can just tell you’ll have to walk on egg shells around John when he’s stressed I couldn’t work with him
I was going to comment exactly this. I thought for sure I was going to open the comments and see nothing about it but thankfully a bunch of other people noticed as well. John seems like a good guy, but when he's stressed, look out because he gets the bully mentality and it must be miserable to be there during it.
First and last video I'll ever see from this channel. For the entire comment section to be about how badly you treated someone, and for you to then edit the video without a hint of an apology, is atrocious behaviour. This is what "Do not recommend this channel" was invented for.
I've had incidents like this happen in my shop, and A) it's always due to poor planning and preparation, and B) I'll check to make sure my cats are okay, not to mention other humans.
I jumped for my phone to comment on this after watching it on my TV… an apology is badly needed to Sam!!
Me too he was the reason it fell when he climbed his wide load up onto the table anyway then get sideways with the only guy willing to put up with him to do the project. Smh
John gets a gun pointed at him. John: “Sam, you didn’t even think about stepping in front of the gun?”
**This video has been edited** I'm just going to say that, John, I have absolutely last respect for you. I never leave post on any video, but this is important enough that I actually felt I needed too. In the original video when the clams failed and the table comes crashing down we see Sam dodging out of the way as to not put himself into harms way. At this point the very frustrated and upset John told Sam ”you didn't this of even trying to stop it?!" And now after all the backlash John has had the video edited to cutout all the scenes that show his lack of character. A really man would one never put others in harms way, would never blam other for a general accident, and most importantly not try to hide his mistakes and cover up how much of a complete butt hole he was. You had the chance to make a response video, you had the chance to make it right by your viewer, but you dropped the ball. Funny thing is i hadn't watch many of your videos in a while just because the whole "doing tiktok trends" wasnt my thing, but i gave this one a shot since ot looked interesting and this is what i come back to. Im glad that the only thing hurt in the video was your pride. Maybe it'll humble you enought to change the way your treat your staff, because from the looks of it you dont treat them with much respect. Maybe you weren't raised right or you just forgot what your mama taught you, but where im from I was always told to treat other the way that I wanted to be treated.
The next "viral" thing that you need to test is making an apology video. It's all the rage right now.
I am a lot bigger than Sam, and there is NO way in fucking hell that I would have tried to catch that big ass slab falling. Not a good reaction to blame him for showing intelligence.
He was just talking ish, im 1000% sure he didnt wanna see sam get hurt just to save a video
He cared enough to not edit out his stupid reaction when he made the video. Those guys need to find another place to work so they don’t have to deal with that toddler’s ego.
Go back on watch the part at .25 speed, Sam actually thinks about catching the slab for about 1/10th of a second then does the smart thing and nopes out.
@@scttydsntknw I was looking for that comment, because I saw the incident in slowmo and only then really knew what was going on in that moment, because it happened all so fast
John, you're a very talented, accomplished woodworker However, as a manager you have a lot to learn.
Wood will not stretch but it will compress. Go look at Engels Coach Shop where he bends wagon bows, his set up prevents stretching by forcing compression. You could double cut your seams with a one or two degree off set that small taper would make a big difference.
And he typically does it by himself...These "I can reinvent the wheel better"...DIYers are killing actual woodworking and craft from my perspective. As "wood machinests" I suppose they are "o.k." but I see little value in these videos other than the fact they seem (?) to entertain folks...but it sure as hell isn't woodworking of any value or way to do something...Thanks for your comment...
Thanks for giving him tips and tricks instead of the others complaints on his natural reaction to days of hard work,$ and devotion falling to💩.
@@jeremyeaston3105 I have, as have others, but this channel is more about "reinventing the wheel"...and “fixing methods” that are not broken, to begin with by using technology and his "I think" methods than it is about actual woodworking and learning what has worked for millennia as it is better for him (it seems?) to do things "his way" rather than learn how it was done, why it was done that way and by what methods...
Man I’m glad I’m not alone with how he’s coming across in this video. He seems like a complete jerk and this showed how he is when the cameras off. Sucks but I can’t watch this guy again without a public apology
Pour it! Kudos on Sam for not getting splattered across the shop floor. Ya'll best be buying that lad a beer or 3 for keeping OSHA out of the picture. Take care & stay safe ya'll.
He doesn't have enough employees for OSHA authority.
pour it, stiching looks like "correcting a mistake" pouring looks like "we designed it like this"
Very good point
This workplace is so toxic, lmao. It's so fun to watch.
POUR IT! I love the idea of stitching, keeping the look you started with, but the epoxy showing the break just sounds cool, and a great/sad story to tell.
Working for John has to be like working for a toddler who gets angry when stuff is stressful haha
Why do you think everyone leaves??
To be fair thats just about any trades shop though. Especially small ones. But normally even with something like that as a possibility, you get very well taken care of and actually treated like family (not just the BS PR saying lol). It's basically working with your dad and you cant hold the damn flashlight right no matter how much you point it right where he says XD. Places like that have cons but also a lot of pros.
Lol, I cannot believe he got mad that his employee didn't nicely lay down his $200 track to throw himself under a table he's not going to use or sell.
I think most of the time he actually doesn't mean what he says when things go wrong like that. I have actually had friends and people I worked with who during the time it happened, they would say things like what he said to Sam about catching the desk and then afterwards they would come back and apologize cause the heat of the moment got to them. We don't know what happened off camera and although it would be really nice to see him come back and say it on camera for us viewers, I hope he did just make sure his workers were alright after the whole thing. Like he wrote on screen, if no one spoke for supposedly two hours, its like they were in shell shock over what had happened. But I don't know him personally, I can only know what I see on screen. I only have my own experience to pull from and what I see in his habits on screen. Maybe thats me wanting to believe in the best in people... but I would hope that is the case.
John is the type of boss you don't want. Trying things for the first time you should always have a plan. When the boss doesn't fully explain the plan in his head and just expects everyone to read his mind and execute his secret plan perfectly, you have the wrong boss. I can't stand employers not emotionally mature enough to accept responsibility for failure. The boss should never pass failure onto the people working under their direction. This is not the first time, this video just highlighted johns inability to lead.
I wouldn't cry over it. It broke mainly because it wasn't glued well. You can see after it broke that the glue wasn't seeping into the cuts. This needed penetrating epoxy. It should've been glued up before being clamped if using thick wood glue.
Pour it, then gift it to Sam as a peace offering for being such a dick to him. Then treat your employees better afterward.
"Here you go, Sam. Here's the slab that almost killed you. Hope you enjoy it."
Came to check the comments and agree. Apologize to Sam and reinforce that he did the right thing by not attempting to stop the slab. Stitching it would be the better option. But I am more interested in the apology and realizing there needs to be a culture shift.