I Tried Low Profile Keyboards... (And You Should Too...)
In this video I try the Lofree Flow mechanical keyboards! The "thockiest" low profile keyboards?
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love your videos hipyo
Try the keychron low profile boards
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Hey Hipyo do you wanna throw us ISO keyboard users a bone and recommend some?
as a laptop user switching to pc, i really want a low profile keyboard but wish there were more keycap options!! hope it grows in popularity
Agree there, have a PC but only really used it with my MacBook through PC streaming. Having a keyboard like this would actually motivate me to get an actual desktop PC setup.
me tooo
I'm using Nuphy Air 75 (low profile) v1 and I've discovered that XDA keycaps works for my keyboard. You might want to check it for your keyboard.
XVX/Womier has a few low profile keycap options. I like the ones that I picked up in Very Peri. They work great on the Flow.
I use a laptop with mechanical keyboards. You can in fact have the best of both worlds.
As many others have mentioned, you should try Nuphy. Specifically any of their “v2” keyboards in the Air series as the v2’s have better sound than the originals. Plus Nuphy Air60’s and 75’s have the rather unique feature of feet that slot into the gap between a laptop’s key rows. Never used my Macbook keyboard since.
My v2 with wisteia switches are amazing. Very similar to my v1 with browns but better.
@@Anarki9891i myself prefer the cowberry switches. But yea, NuPhy is definitely a better choice than this one
I have the v1 air 96 and I love it.
Not to mention that they've switched to QMK firmware on the v2 as well, which is the one thing I've been missing from my Air75 v1. Even with the stock browns it was great, even just lubing them gave me that low-profile thock I needed. Would be really great to see what you think about these keyboards, ideally v1 vs v2 if you can get your hands on the former!
The v1's sound pretty great already, I'm gonna upgrade soon so I really am hoping the v2's indeed sound better
I love my NuPhy Air75 V2. The V2 has better polling rate, has a usb dongle, adjustable feet, a choice of switches, QMK/VIA compatible. The choice of switches are decent and I ended up switching keycaps for the shine through version. Not to mention they have extra keycaps depending on if you're a MAC or PC user and a few extra switches for you to try. You should definitely do a review on the NuPhy.
The NuPhy is definitely a better choice than this one
that 169$ price tag is not justifiable considering the air75 v2 has better features and is hotswap
...and has 2.4 GHz on top of Bluetooth
can you swap other keycaps on? i love the look of the base on the nuphy keyboards but their choice of keycaps is very lacking.
@@swagrodgersmichaelpenisjr.1187 yes, you can swap almost everything. I bought different keycaps for mine. Any low profile keycaps will do.
I've had the chance to try a few mechanical keyboards and never really felt right with any, until I got my own first mechanical couple weeks back, they keychron K5 low profile, and I absolutely love it - apart from having no angle adjust, which I remedied by gluing two pieces of hard foam instead of legs. I picked it also because its low profile and close to the membranes I've used for years, but mainly because I have a cat and a pretty dusty room so the fact you can easily reach under the keys without taking them off and just blow the dust and hair out easily. That feature makes it best for me.
I subscribed because of that little walk you did with your fingers across the keyboard. I genuinely love how this made me laugh. It wasn't even the hardest I've ever laughed or anything, but I really loved how it tickled me.
you should really try the Nuphy air 75v2 really good competitor to the Lofree :) great content as always!
I was counting how many comments it'll take for Air75 v2 to be mentioned - 3 🙂 I agree, I type this on a one (and used to have v1).
@@jacekostrowski7044 I absolutely love mine, I take it to work and the laptop friendly feet is amazing for that! really really good option, a friend of mine got the lofree so i was able to compare both, lofree is deffo a better typing experience in my eyes but the functionality of the Nuphy wins for me, VIA support and shine through caps won me over. - glad to see some Air 72 lovers here!!
I purchased one a few months ago and couldn't be happier. I went with the Cowberry linear switches and added the shine-through ABS caps. Love this keyboard! It's super portable and comes with USB-C, 2400mhz, and Bluetooth! The RBG is no joke either! You really do get a lot for your money!
This is the only low profile keyboard I've ever genuinely enjoyed using. The typing sound and feel is excellent. I have the white one and I replaced those keycaps with a low profile set by XVX. I chose the Very Peri colorway and the LEDs do not shine through at all and they are primarily light colored. Not sure what happened with the included caps, but that was disappointing because they feel great to use. All in all, I'm very happy with mine.
I like the xvx, is there a model I’m supposed to choose for the lofree or they all work ? Thanks !
@@hyper.x I used their low profile keycaps specifically. I tried some cherry profile and it wasn't the worst, but it wasn't great and I personally would not recommend
Omg THANK YOU! I asked a while back for you to review this keyboard and I didnt know of you would or not! Thank you so much!
At thanks hipyo, I'm a huge fan. I love your efforts and how informationial you are. Hope to see another video!
I feel like low profiles are an untapped market so it's lacking with customization and there's not an agreed upon uniform switch style or anything, but I personally own a nuphy air 75 that is a bit loud but I love it dearly for its premise, and the way it fits on a laptop is just perfect. I really think you should check out the Nuphy Air 75v2! They have lots of switch options, and I haven't bought it bc the price point is a bit high for me and I don't have the spare cash on hand, but it's got a lot of switch options and keycap options, and the RGB and some other features sound better from what this review has made me think, but idk.
Highly recommend trying the Nuphy Air keyboards- best low-profile ones out there. I've been using an Air 60 as my daily driver for work for a year and have liked using it so much that I didn't even hesitate to buy the new v2 when it got announced. That said, for my personal setup, I do use a regular keyboard for customization and crazy RGB.
One facet I wish you went over is the ergonomics There is such a lack of good low profile keyboard reviews, nice to see a top tier keyboard review of one.
Agree. Aren't low profile keyboards far more comfortable for your hands/wrists?
Quickly subbed. Love your reviews and low profile keyboards are my favorite to type on.
Would love to see the segment grow. There are plenty of environments in which a custom low profile keeb would be preferable.
This looks great! I use the Keychron K3v2 as it's one of very few hot swappable low profile boards available in a nordic ISO layout, and with their banana optical switches it feels pretty dang good to use IMO.
I just impulse bought a Lofree keyboard yesterday and was looking into the brand so I would love to see more videos about their products!
I really appreciate seeing more flat keyboards. I've always preferred a zero angle typing experience and finding well made keyboards that offer me such is rather difficult. Really tempted to try one of these to compare to my System76 lauch board.
Please do Nuphy Air 75 v2 next!
This! I have the v1 and it's 2.4GHz performance is rock-solid. Not to mention the build or RGB lighting quality.
Nuphy is the best low pro keeb. Hot swappable, great keycaps, really nice build quality, and thocky af. For a WAAAY better price. Also has 2.4ghz dongle.
Which set of switches did you go for? I'm stuck between Aloe and Wisteria
I just ordered my V2! I'm waiting for it come in.... patiently.
Yeah I love mine! Just want more keycap options.
I have Air96 with Daisy switches I lubed myself
But not even the V2 keyboards sound as good as this + they don't have gaskets 😢
I got myself a Sharkoon PureWriter TKL RGB a few years back for my birthday, and i loved it since then! It has low profile blue or red Kaith switches, adjustable rgb, nice profile, its not sandy as stock, and its cheap! I would recommend it for a beginner keyboard enthusiast
great video and i for 1 would like to see more low profile keyboard reviews!
Since you've mentioned low profile ;) been having a look at the Nuphy Air v2, haven't pulled the trigger yet! It looks nice though!
I bought I high-end keychron low-profile board with clicky keys and I'm very happy with it. Hotswappable switches, great build quality, multi-pairing Bluetooth, it checked all my boxes. It's a great beginner mod-friendly board, though the version I bought was freaking expensive.
I just got my air60 v2. And i am very very happy with it. Id also heard good things about lofree, but i was sold on nuphy after i bought the v1. Glad your looking at low profiles, i cant go back to high profile, because i refuse to use a wristrest.
I got this keybord and I prefer that a lot to other regular custum keybords. Granted this isn't really custum but i don't mod my keybords anyways and it has a nice sound profile to begin with. I take mine to work when i have to come in (home work master race) (most of the time) and using a regular custum keybord there feels silly. My only gripe is the see throgh issue and that i can't get iso German layout. I just added modifiers to the A, E, U and O to make Ä, Ë, Ü AND Ö. I sadly can't enjoy the giant enter though. :( kinda wanna print my own pcb and Plate but I can't find any low profile de-iso key caps with good quality. I don't think the market is big enough to custum make them. I would honestly be fine with blanks of the same kind as a compromise but it's not supposed to be. :(
I purchased the tactile version of the lofree flow. I really like it. I have several custom mechanical keyboards. I don't even really like 75% but this one is actually quite nice. I don't think it will replace my custom boards but this is definitely a nice travel board or work board
I'm in the process of preparing to work on a custom keyboard, and while I'd love to use low profile switches, there are two kinds and I'm unsure on which I want to use. Seeing this was some very nice insight on the current state of them. PS: Dactyl Manuform review when?
I just got this board with the phantoms like 5 days ago. Love it so far!
Since my first experience with low profile switches, I sold my regular mechanicals but even the low profile blue sounds way less irritating and somehow thockier (even if blues are supposed to be clickier) than regular blue switches, now I also have a low profile red switch keyboard and in love with it. There’s something very different and satisfying about low profile switches and you can’t compare them to regular ones as they will look and sound different to the same because there’s less travel distance, I find my fingers are less fatigued when typing after long periods of time. 💗💗💗
THANK YOU. I'm all in on low profile. I love them. I got a redragon low profile, poached the switches and most importantly the STABILIZERS and popped them on a GMMK pro. Found some low profile, shine through keycaps that claim to PBT (a little hard to tell, but they do feel nice) and I lubed the switches. It has a similar sound to this keyboard now. I really suggest doing something more like that. It actually still cost me about as much as one of these things, but my keycaps actually have good, proper backlighting. XVX Horizon V2 keycaps might work on this keyboard, BTW.
Try the nuphy air 75 v2
I've ben on the Mac side of things since 2011 and learned to really like the lower profile style. When my MBP ran into the switches issue (which I did eventually get fixed for free) I snagged a Logitech K380 which my daughter had been using w/her iPad and used it for quite awhile. For just a basic cheap keyboard which would also be really easy to pack around if needed, it did an excellent job. For Christmas my fiance and I had been talking about mechanical keyboards and I saw sales happening w/Keychron so I ended p getting her a K3 Pro and while I had initially picked up the K1, it turns out it didn't fit the low profile keycaps I bought*. By then teh sale was over, and getting a TKL keyboard vs the full size was only a $5 difference, so I ended up w/the K5 Pro w/reds and I've been really happy with it. Back in college at 47 so I used it w/some of my end of semester school work and also using it to play World of Warcraft recently. The Lowfree looks good, and I'd be fine w/the black model probably if I was going to try it out. I do kind of wish the new keycaps on this keyboard were shine thru, but even just using the stock keycaps for a few minutes was already having them look discolored w/oil. Which was immediately after washing my hands, so that seemed crazy. The standard keycaps on keychron DO shine thru, but looks like they wouldn't do well w/whatever odd body chemistry I have going on. I like the mechanical feel and sound after so long of not using it (and I replaced the Logitech keyboard work sent me with it's thick and weirdly squishy buttons) with my K380. Which also takes up a lot less desk space, so that's nice. If something happened to the keychron I honestly might just buy a new Magic keyboard from Apple and call it good. heh * Keychron Hacker keycaps. Nostalgia of the green on black of old command lines worked for me.
More low-profile content please! It’s a great gateway drug for us on the fence, considering diving into mechanical keyboards.
Now do Nuphy
If you don't prefer any keyboard layout over 75%, lofree flow is objectively the much better keyboard!
I'm still using my very first mechanical keyboard, it's a Keychron K1 SE lowprofile and I love it... aside from how incredibly clicky and loud it is. I've been wanting to try another option as I've had this since it was just about first available, and I'm really interested in something like the keyboard you reviewed in this video. I'd love to see what you think about the Nuphy Air series, I've been eye-ing one for a couple weeks now.
This is the reason I don't go near mechanical keyboards. Though I saw the razer blackwidow I think can be fitted with silent keys. That would be cool (more than double price of my Mx keys mini though and wired ).
I ended up ordering the Nuphy Air 96 v2 with Wisteria switches, I got it in two days (today) and I already love this thing. Sounds nice, feels great, works well. I need to re-learn typing a bit to adjust to the slightly different layout/distance of keys but I'm already not that far off my WPM pb.
yeah the lofree flow with linear switches is superb. super plush typing action
Definitely want a vid on their crazy mouse 🔥
Just picked up the nuphy air 96 v2 w/whisteria and cowberry switches. Excited to see how it thocks.
Personally I've been happy with my Keychron S1. It''s very fast and sounds pretty alright. It's possible to put regular keycaps on it but the travel distance feels way too short when you do. I feel like low-profile doesn't seem to have a lot of set standards though.
I’ve been using the keychron K3 for the last year. It’s a low profit custom with swappable switches and I love it!
The XVX Normcore / Horizon shine through keycaps work perfectly with this and vastly improve the illumination.
I need to see more of that mouse, it looks amazing.
This legit made my day i love low profile keyboards but i didn't think i could get it on a desktop without crappy switches 0.0
The sound of this Keyboard made me actually go out and buy a custom keyboard. I've watched tons of videos and I enjoyed the whole "thock" sound, but not for me at home. Then I saw a video of this keyboard and I was like: wait... what? A keyboard, that sounds like a bunch of marbles? So I went through a lot of other videos and finally ended up buying the Yunzii M71 with linear switches. It sounds quite similar to this keyboard, nearly as marbly, but it's a regular old keyboard. Nonetheless if this keyboard ever gets a better, slightly larger version, with better placement for the arrow keys and maybe even an ISO version, then I'll buy it in a heartbeat.
Dude.. I passed over the Nuphy Air for this and couldn’t be happier (coworker has an Air and it sounds cheap). The typing feel of those POM switches is practically a religious experience.
Just got the nuphy air in the mail and I agree
I just ordered a Keychron K12 Pro, and I think I will buy a K9 Pro to try out the low profile variant. I'm used to low profile stuff from my trusty Logitech K400, and kind of miss the smaller volume. I'm very new to this hobby, I started with a Redragon K530 Pro, but wanted something that had extensible remapping options (like through QMK/VIA).
I've had plans of getting a low profile keeb for a while now. My decision was just solidified because trying to bring a custom board even with wireless functions is a hassle on a daily commute to school. That and the form factor helps my wrist so it checks out on health reasons too.
I got myself a Keychron K7 Pro to use on the go, and I really like it. Might try a few of theirs sometime; curious how they compare to the larger Keychrons.
My wrist has been hurting a bit when I've been using the keyboard lately, and I think this keyboard will solve that problem. Thank you for making this video 😊
I feel like the NuPhy Air 75 was a big inspiration for this keyboard. I use mine whenever I’m on the go, with the laptop at coffee shops or when traveling. I might have to give this a try.
It's so nice I love mine
I switched to the Keychron K3 almost 2 years ago and I had the K1 before. I really like the low profile because I tend to rest my palms on the desk, so no strain, and no need for a wrist rest. A low profile is the way to go if you don't have a lot of extra space for a wrist rest.
As I use to slouch and put my feet on the desktop, the K3 is perfekt for the lap. Very silent as well with the red switches.
I picked up the new K17 pro which is low profile. They had 4 keycap options to choose from. I got the set with the yellow enter and esc keys. So far I love it! Oh did I mention it has a knob!!!
I have two low profile key cap sets and wonder if they would work, also wondering about putting low profile switches in one of my existing keyboards instead of getting a low profile keyboard. Would you get the same feel just with more flex and weight at the loss of the size (height) I just got 7 keyboards in the last month and now you made me want one of these.... Especially for typing speed. The fastest I ever was, was Cherry MX with o-rings that gave the switches a very low travel distance. Less than a speed silver.
I've been wanting a custom low profile 60% but they're near impossible to find parts for
I just got my first low profile keyboard. Previously, I wouldn't have considered it at all, but I fell in love.
Low profile switches and MT3 caps changed everything for me. Amazing.
Good vid, kinda interested in learning bit more at least about low profiles. They were always interesting. Hipyo when is next stream tho? Been waiting so long.
Very soon!
My Dad likes low profile, lightweight keyboards so he's been using logitech membrane keyboards for a while. I was pleasantly surprised last week when he had one similar to this from keychron and I definitely enjoyed typing on it. I think this trend is a W for keyboards if it gets more people typing on switches instead super nintendo controller domes
Hipyo please review the lofree touch keyboard as well. Im a big fan btw keep up the good work pls.
I have a Nuphy Air 75 v2. I lubed the low profile switches and they sound amazing. I just took them apart with my fingers since the opener doesn't fit them.
This one looks great. Really like the style
I'm so happy I went low profie after many years of keyboards since 1987. I've used many Cherry originals but recently took a short diverseion into the gaming keyboards as that was what is available here. My keychron with linear reds make it really easy to type - with travel slightly more than a laptop but still positive but the real game-changer was the size, followed by the VIA customisations. Being able to have 4 keyboard layouts and a ton of macro keys is awesome. Noise-wise, I really enjoy the new rattle free boards. The give me a sense of more control, precision. I'd like to try an ortho version of the same board - split would be a bridge too far but southpaw may be an option.
After watching this video, I decided to get one of these with the tactile switches and black keycaps. I do love it, but there are some things I should mention. First, the tactile switches are a bit heavy for me, and my hands get tired quickly. But the Lofree Flow definitely sounds creamy and thocky. Stock. I wish the stock keycaps were shine-through. I got some XVX shine-through caps to go on them but took them back off because they (very) slightly reduced the thockiness.
I move around a lot & like this to be portable. I recently got into ITX builds & feel Low Profile keyboards fit the bill regarding travel. I also enjoy typing on a laptop but would like to have a 70% keyboard that is low profile. All in all, with mobile handhelds becoming the intro to gaming PCs, I feel Low Profile might be a hit with that group since portability is at its max.
Def wanna see that mouse. Is it a good alternative to the Mx master 3
Try a keychron low profile, I swapped out the keycaps for a set of a sort-of mt3 profile like these in the video, and I absolutely love it. It's also about a 1/3 of the price. They do make a model with hot-swappable switches, rgb, etc.
I am completely new to modding keyboards and this is like the second video I have seen on the subject. I find myself liking the tactile feel, but also liking the “thock” sounding keys. Is it possible to combine these or are they mutually exclusive?
Nuphy is the brand to beat in this category imo. I absolutely love my Air75.
Nuphy’s halo line also has great build quality 👍 The ghost bar was *chef’s kiss* for me
I wonder how this compares to a NuPhy Air. Got the Zoom75 thanks to your videos and definitely enjoy the keyboard a lot, but need a shine through low height keyboard for work :)
I've been looking for a low profile option... I might just look into picking this up and giving it a shot.
Pls compare this with nuphy air 75 v2.
I have a custom low profile keyboard that folds back so it stores easier for travel. Very nice, and I almost enjoy typing on it more than my desktop keyboard tbh.
Opinion about the glorious gmmk 2? (And which switches are the best?)
I would be very interested to see what you think about Dygma keyboards. Id also love to see how you would mod them.
Regarding switching to normal keycaps, I ran into the same issue with my NuPhy Air75, the issue I found is mostly related to the keys near the edge of the keyboard, so I left those as the stock keycaps and then switched out the alpha numeric keys and a few other keys like enter, tab, shift etc. with my normal keycaps, creating a sort of franken keyboard, doesn't look great but I think it's improved my typing thanks to the sculpted profile of normal keycaps
Fully convinced that youtube reads your mind. I was just thinking about building a low profile keyboard and this video shows up on my recommended
Thank you so much for your videos! What low profile 100% keyboard would you recommend? I have been looking for one for a while, but it's hard to find one without trying.
nice thock, test the mouse, battery life, does it work on glass and how thick glass or should be coloured glasses.
Can you review the Nuphy air75 v2? I want to buy a new keyboard and I dont know if i should do a custome one or buy a prebuilt?
Can you do a review on making/buying a silent, tactile, TKL with tri-mode (like maybe a K1 Max, and drop in some silent switches)?
What do you think about the new keychron v1 max? Is it worth paying 40 dollars more for it than the regular v1? Where I live v1 sells for around 100 euros ~107 dollars, and since its not out yet, but got informed that v1 max's gonna cost around 140euros ~150 dollars, I'm just curious if I should or should not wait for the v1 and if its worth 40 more euros.
Choc Mini orthlinear. I wanted a low-pro keyboard that I could travel with. The keyboards on the Dell and HP laptops I use for work aren't bad, but having a travel keyboard meant I could use it at home, work, travel with whatever drive I'm using, including a tablet. I ended up building a split ortholinear with choc minis. Its super low profile, not even as thick as a standard keyboard case, and it is super satisfying to type on (personal preference). If a laptop came with a keyboard like this, it would be an end-game for me.
Been a low-profile collector and I never looked back, and this is someone coming from a collection of SA keycap sets and the thickest mech keebs before.
You should do a review of a Nuphy Air75v2 next! Keeps the stock thockiness if you pick the cowberry switches
Can you replace the switches with regular sized switches? I was wondering of using low profile with regulah switches and keycaps
I started with a Keychron K1 with blue switches as my first mechanical keyboard. Loved it but, then I got the K12 from a Kickstarter and stopped using it or would just use it on occasion. I then sent the K1 to a buddy of mine since he was wanting to game on his xbox with a keyboard and mouse but, did not want to spend a lot of money on one. I sometimes miss that keyboard and I did see someone selling the exact same one on facebook but, I feel like I wouldn't be able to use it to it's full potential as I keep switching between the K12 for gaming and my novelkeys tkl custom that I have loved since I got it.
Now I want to see you trying and comparing this one with NuPhy Air V2 and Keychron K3 Pro (or other low profile boards)
hey, have you done a video on cleaning /maintaining mechanical keyboards?
“Like Cherry red and brown but good”. Lol. I got it when they crowdfunded it, and I do like typing on it. A full size with the same design and switches would be great, imo.
I wish low profile caps were more available for regular mechs. I found a random cheap shine through set on amazon, and it was surprisingly decent.
Glove80 or advantage 360 as a return to ergo keyboards maybe? The key well is pretty great
Low profile keyboards are great for people like me who constently get stuck with their fingers on those tall keys of mechanical keyboards. I really can't write fast on these. Now I bought myself a nuphy air 75 v2 with red switches and I really like it. I also didn't had a bluetooth keyboard yet.
Hey Hipyo, please make a video about options for customizing low profile keyboards
I guess LP keyboards are a good option if you need mobility and have to pack often and move a lot with your keyboard and tablet, other than that they do the same thing as a regular keyboard so, just go with what you prefer at the end.
When I bought my first mechanical keyboard I was deciding between the Lofree Flow and the Nuphy Air75 V2. I ended up buying a Nuphy Halo65 when it suddenly came back in stock, and haven't regretted it. However, I'm still thinking about a low profile keyboard to use at school
I bought the Air75 v1 before the v2 came out thinking I'd use it with my laptop for notes in college. My main gripe was it was a bit loud with the linear switches, but they have new switches and I don't think they're technically silent switches, but they are way quieter. I think they're Nuphy Cowberries or something? Might be worth checking out
@@EvanNeedsTherapy I've heard good things about the cowberries, and the sound test Nuphy posted on youtube makes them sound really thocky and nice. I wish I could get my hands on some to test them in person without having to buy the entire keyboard, but that's not possible.
Man the black one is perfect, I just want letter shine through key caps!
Any chance you will be reviewing the keychron v1 max?
I have nuphy air75 v2 with cowberry switches and love it :) now waiting for work louder nomad
you should get the magegee mk box with red switches. it sounds pretty good with some mods!