Neal Ruhl, Darren McCarty and the rest of the BDE crew discuss Jared Goff and the fans that don't think we should extend them and the fans that want him extended. Are you a fan of Goff? Like, Subscribe and leave your comment below!
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Pay him, he’s OUR GUY
No HE’S NOT.
@@freedomthefreeman487 ok guy, so you don’t think Brad and the gang are going to get the deal done?
@@Kyle.Wynsma I tend to think they will but I don’t agree with 50+ AAV. But I like the moves Holmes has made and believe he really likes Hooker so we shall see how it plays out. But Goff is not OUR guy. You can like him though brother.
In GOFF we Trust! 💙🦁⚒️
Jared will get signed, and it will be around preseason. People need to relax about it. This could be our season with Jared. He has brought this team a lot further than Stafford. Guys I agree with you all.👍
Not sure this is solely on Jared taking the team farther. The franchise, team and management were the worst in the league when Stafford was here. Lets also not get it twisted. If we had Stafford with the team we have right now, our team would be way better. Stafford is just a better QB, but thats irrelevant. That trade helped us become the team we are, and Goff is our QB.
The Goff haters aren't intelligent football fans & don't understand stability. Goff has done more to revive the Lions than every QB since their last playoff win, combined. Replacing him now or letting his contract expire would be absurd.
Say it louder for the ppl in the back.
You got that right
I ain’t a hater but he don’t need to take up more than ONE FIFTH of the teams payroll. That’s insanity and they don’t even have the cap space to add another $50mil a year.
He's a garbage qb, only looks good cuz he's here and not somewhere else.
@@haywoodmarquette1904 lol the sorry lions are making him look good...the lions? LMAO. That sentence has never been uttered in our lifetimes. The lengths you haters are willing to go re insane
The media acts like the man has to be the first to throw a touchdown pass on the moon to deserve any respect
Everyone should be respected but that has nothing to do with paying an above average QB Mahomes, Burrow money.
@@freedomthefreeman487 people aren't gonna be complaining when we win the superbowl
@@freedomthefreeman487 goffs been playing better than burrow what u mean
The people chanting Goff are like Neal. There are plenty of Lions fans that remember Goff pooping the bed against the Ravens and Bears. Almost 5 or 6 INTs in 1 GAME!
Then "Mr Irrelevant " out played him to go to the SB😕
@@CeeNote313 Really???? I didn't know Goff played D
@@johnmann7771 spare me the sarcasm like Purdy didn't run for more yards than Goff😐
@@johnmann7771 did the defense throw those INTs?
For all the Goff lovers that want to pay him north of 50 million a year let his contract run out after this season and I bet $100 no other team would offer him $50+ AAV.
Well talk to your guys at Woodward sports especially EZ he's always on Woodward saying Goff sucks
Well he can hold that opinion, but that doesn’t answer my question. Goff doesn’t suck IMO. Why are people concerned about how a billion dollar corporation spends its money?
@jeffreyd2948 and my main thing is this I don't have a podcast I just listen to most of them and Woodward always says they are Detroit sports news and when you have people from Woodward trashing our Lions QB constantly to me it looks bad Goff has done what no other QB has done in over 30 years and that's when playoff games also been playing at a high level the past 2 years now
@@MrOmar34pcontroversial takes gets views.
@@jeffreyd2948 very true
he also loved malik willis so that's not saying much
This is how Lions fans have progressed. Last offseason: "I'm not paying Goff $40-45 million, let's see how this season plays out before we do anything." This offseason: "I'm not paying Goff $45-50 million, let's see how this season plays out before we do anything."
The new contract isn't going to start with a 4, and I think some fans are going to be outraged.
I hope they are. We have a legit team that nearly made the Super Bowl and an idiot contingent of this fanbase wants to shortchange our field general. I hope they're super pissed at his contract XD
@@drayiii980shortchange? He is making 32 million dollars this year. He has made over $100 million dollars. Goff doesn’t deserve the money Burrow and Mahomes etc are getting. People around here aren’t used to a winning team and anytime a QB plays decent the fans put full support in the QB no matter if they deserve it or not. When there was talks of trading Stafford people acted like that was crazy too. Not paying Goff $50 AAV isn’t crazy. The Lions could keep Goff till 32 years old without giving him a long term deal and would save money doing so. They won’t but could and probably should.
Some of us don’t mind paying him. We have just seen what happens when teams pay a QB that much. Most of the time it handicaps them. Sometimes it works but not often. If we didn’t have so many young guys that are going to need to paid as well. Maybe we don’t believe we are the Chiefs yet. Holmes seems to be creative with cap moves so I don’t know. He deserves what he gets and I like the player. But it’s natural for a fan to worry given our track record as a team.
Field General who couldn't run or complete a pass on 4th&3 to go to the SB😅 Goff gobblers are hilarious 😂
@@CeeNote313 Wow that’s a special kind of stupid to reduce Goff’s 12-5 season + 2 playoff wins to one play. Congrats, I think you won the Idiot Comment of the Day award
All the Goff haters probably cry about how good they are at job and deserve more money lol.
As long as they can formulate a sentence. 🤣🤪
BURROW, HERBERT, JACKSON and HURTS are the only guys making $50mil/year. That goes from $51-$55mil in reverse order. We can’t even afford to pay him $50mil a year.
Exactly. Those guys are clearly better than Goff with possibly the exception of Hurts, the way Hurts played down the stretch but I believe Hurts suffers from a badly coached team that has a good GM. Goff is not a $50 AAV QB. That’s ridiculous money for a guy we all wanted to get rid of after a season and a half.
That is as hot take as I've ever seen! Good stuff here, man 👏
We need for him to increase his speed to at least 1mph while running
Why is everyone so concerned about how the Lions spend their money? I honestly don’t understand??
Because the NFL has a salary cap unlike other sports (to keep the league parity). It is clear because of your other comments about “Maz worrying about how other people spend their money” that you don’t know about the salary cap or understand it yet. I’m not trying to be condescending. Every team has the same amount of money to spend on players and mismanagement of the salary is one of the primary ways a team can sink itself or be a dynasty. The Patriots almost never resigned a star receiver for instance. They just reloaded in the draft and spent the money elsewhere. If you are a team that scouts rookies well and doesnt sign the wrong players to team crippling contracts (think the Lions of the last 30 years lol) you can maintain success.
@@brandonbaty2291yea tell the saints cap space is a thing 😂 complete joke if it is real (which it isn't) saints are making a mockery of it.
@@brandonbaty2291that still doesn't explain anything. It's not your money so why do you care? Quit pocket watching.
@@silent1759well its a public, competitive sports business, and within that culture its all about ppl and fans enjoying the idea of pretending they are the decision maker. Part of the fun being a fan is making ur own mock drafts, having discussions of which free agents to sign, and for how much cuz its a puzzle. So its fun to theory craft. Thats why.
Uhh....that's how the NFL works. It's kind of important.
Guess Sarokis isnt getting my biz on Ecorse road for a bit
so good
Im so glad i see much more than what you guys see & for that, i dont have to explain anymore & you'll just have to wait & see & we can Thank God for the decision that i truly believe & Brad Holmes believes as well
I don't really hate Goff but we do need a reliable backup that will win the game if Goff gets injured to win game.
Don’t you dare disagree or THIS GUY WILL YELL AT YOU 😂
We should sign him to 3/4 years. I think he'll take a team friendly deal to win!!!
Franchise: Elsewhere! EZ
Afranchise tag is going to be around $52 million, and you can make his salary for this year even smaller. Might as well just pay the guy.
It’s like let these people run the team if think they know it all ridiculous Goff is the best we ever had.
DyNasty Bginz 🦁⚒️💙
I don’t understand the Goff disrespect !! He’s done more than any other QB we’ve had in the superbowl era. I hope he gets 4 @ $200!! I would love to see these idiots lose their minds 🤣🤣🤣
He also has the most talent around him than any other QB the lions have ever had.
@@MotownFan75nonsense. That 2014 team was loaded af.
@@silent1759 you might want to check the stats. The lions didn’t have the o line they have now. They had 2 rookies starting. The starting TE Brandon Pettigrew only played 9 games and had 10 catches for 70 yards and the rushing attack was nothing like we had last year. As a team they rushed for 1400 yards and 11 TDs
@MotownFan75 bro they had as top 3 reciever of all time and a #2 defense. I don't even need to mention tate as well. That team was more than good enough and had more Talent. Hold your excuses. It's always a bunch of excuses to why Stafford can't get it done. If that was Goff, there wouldn't be any excuses and you know it. So don't be a hypocrite.
@@silent1759 that’s the only argument the Goff haters have. They’re very foolish
Detroit needs a super bowl 59 now please pay Goff and get a Superbowl Go Lions.
Pay him like you expect to win the superb owl!
I was wrong,I thought Jared Goff last 7- starts vs SF 49ers being 0-7 they would not extend him so losing 7 straight games to a team we need to beat must not mean anything to the front office,I think its a mistake but what do i know i thought 7 loses in a row to a team was bad for Goff apparently not
Keep trying
@@silent1759 nothing to keep trying for Lions will resign Goff so we will see if we go to New Orleans or not,i will root for Goff you slappies won congrats
@@lionking7599 lmao stay salty
@@lionking7599 you're big mad rn.
Let's Goooooo
Its not just an issue of 50 mil a year. Its the guranteed money that will make or break the deal. I think he commands at least top 5 money. Nobody wants to see Hooker to display his tools more than me. But we need to resign Goff and deal him in a year or two. If he balls out and grabs the Lombardi, We will get at least 2 firsts and a 3rd for him.
You believe you could get two first for a quarterback that if he hit free agency, nobody would sign above 50 million a year? WOW people amaze me.
This fool sat here for forever talking bout having qbs on a rookie deal. Now hes screaming at people because they dont wanna pay an immobile quaterback 50 mil a year
He’s been above average here for about a season and a half. And there were still atrocious games last year (ravens and bears) where he looked disgusting out there. When plays break down, he’s toast! He can’t create. If everything is on script, he can make the plays that are supposed to be made but any above average QB can follow a script. I really wanna know what they have in Hooker. (Que the Hooker hate 🙄) but it’d be in the Lions best interest to at least let an offseason play out with him to see where his development is. Goff is a statue. I still don’t know if he can when us a critical game with him arm if we need him to.
Same kind of talk was around Larkin as is with Goff. The fan base doesnt believe he is worth the money he is going to be paid. Or better put, armchair GMs think they need to take less than whats market value. When Larkin's deal wasnt done, there was so many people saying he wasnt worth 8 million a year, and when he signed that he was overpaid. Same with Goff, they expect him to take 35-44 million a year, because he isnt the best QB out there. He is our QB, he is what we have, pay the man. Whatever that price is, its worth 2 playoff game wins and potential seasons after.
Paying him 50 is not okay. Nobody would be against 40AAV for Goff but he wouldn’t take it I’d bet. You don’t pay a quarterback based on team wins and stats. You pay a QB based on objectively how good he is in comparison to his counterparts.
@@freedomthefreeman487 which is stats and wins, lolol. What other metrics would u use? Here's one, what other option do we have? He is synced with the team and the players. So you would prefer not paying him 50+ and take our chances at overpaying for someone else or the draft? We go forward with this young nucleus, why would u risk all that to save 5 million a year? Just gonna have to accept what Jared's contract is and accept the wins. Or whine about it and get off the bandwagon.
Ok, so can I throw my opinion on super Homer Neal here? Lamar Jackson has had 2 MVP awards to my knowledge, why we lost to KC, well they got Mahomes and are multi-year Super Bowl champs. Goff and Detroit lost to San Francisco with Purdy, who's kryptonite is AFC teams, also San Francisco(super bowl losing team) came back from 18 points to win against Detroit. KC just outsmarted Baltimore, their defensive line just smothered us about every play. Zay Flowers kind of screwed things up too, but any team that deserves to win overcomes that, and Baltimore didn't. Just like how San Fran mentally flanked and defeated Detroit. I'm looking forward to Baltimore and Detroit Super Bowl this year, and if Baltimore beats KC in the process, Ravens victory. But to be fair, I do think Goff is top 10 quarterback, but Lamar Jackson is top 3 baby.
I had that same hair in middle school. Real cool.
Goff 50 million hahHH no way. Maybe 45 million
If you let Jared Goff’s contract run out, I guarantee you nobody would offer him 50+ AAV in FA. Guarantee it.
Paying him 50 is not okay. Nobody would be against 40AAV for Goff but he wouldn’t take it I’d bet. You don’t pay a quarterback based on team wins and stats. You pay a QB based on objectively how good he is in comparison to his counterparts.
I think we’re confusing “hate” with honest, unbiased criticism. Waiting until the end of a contract to make a decision on whether or not to re-sign him (or any other player, at any other position) isn’t “hate”, it’s just smart business. Goff is our best option for right now, if at the end of the season he is still the best option, re-sign him. It’s not complicated
Saying you want a mobile quarterback is just a polite way of saying you want a black quarterback. How's that working out for Arizona with Kyler Murray. He's mobile as he'll. You don't think the Cardinals would trade Kyler for Goff tomorrow if the Lions would do it. If Goff was black all these haters would love him
Since y’all think Goff is the best QB in the NFC, make him the highest paid Quarterback in the NFC then..
Pocket passers win SB's.
All Goff does is win.
He was 4-19-1 his first 25 games in Detroit. Let me guess, it’s a team sport until you bring up Goff stats. Then it’s all him, not Laporta, St Brown, Gibbs, Monty, Jamo, Top 2-3 Oline etc. What a joke.
@@freedomthefreeman487 that’s what GREAT PLAYERS do with TALENT around THEM. Dodo brain what a joke you’re. Come at me with facts you bum
If you hate
pay the man
Put Goff on a non stacked offense and lets see what he does. He's a non mobile qb, lacks arm strength and throws a wobbly crap ball.
🙄 Brad20yrz: Nuff 👄
ENOUGH with the insane, totally baseless clamor for the "mobile quarterback." This craze started in the mid-90s, how many mobile QBs have won the Superbowl? 2, maybe 3 if you count Rogers. Stop the insanity folks, of the many facets that make a quarterback great, mobility is about 7th or 8th. Pocket presence and adherence to the mental clock QBs have in their head by which they know they have to get the ball out are more important to avoiding sacks and succeeding than elusiveness. There's more to this than what we see on highlight reels. What we see time and again with scrambling QBs is a tendency to hold the ball too long, then end up losing yardage in a sack. This is why Goff has been sacked 25th most of all QBs over the last 2 years, while your coveted mobile QBs hold four of the top five most-sacked spots. Even mobile guys who have as good or better lines than Detroit, like Jackson, Hurts, and Mahomes, have more. It's a crock. By the way, it's not just sac counts that are affected buy ability to handle pressure, interception #s also. Goff has the 21st-most INTs over that same 2 year period. It should also be said that Goff played two games more than any other QB for that time span, or he would be even much further down these lists. It's just part-timers, injury-plagued, and retirees from '22 that are below him.
Goff gobblers are about as athletic as he is so i get it😅If Hooker played well for 3yrs and didn't get us to a SB after being a 4th&3 play away folks would be screaming trade him. This is business not personal I don't hate Goff i hate approaching 50yrs old in this city all my life NO SUPERBOWL NOT EVEN AN APPEARANCE!!!😕🤨
“Derrrrr Hooker can run therefore he’s better”
@@drayiii980 agree can't wait 2see after watching Goff flat feet in the pocket 💯lol
my gut tells me spencer is in the closet with a knife waiting ! if goff does not win a super bowl this year then he will jump out and stab goff in the back.
I am so sick of hearing people are not real fans if they don't believe a millionaire should get more millions. I am a fan of the Lions. None of us get a dime if Goff gets paid. He is a cog in the machine thats all. You do not have to like every player on team or want to see them get paid top dollar to be a so called true fan. Goff is literally the least talented QB in the division. Sorry smart fans see the current trend of mobile QBs with arm talent in the league and want that for their team. Why is that a crime to say? In the next couple of years going forward Goff could literally be the 3rd worst QB in the division but Goff slappies want him to be locked up for years to come while ever team in the NFL is moving to more athletic QBs. There are literally only 3 pure pocket passers of note left in the NFL. One (Stafford) is near retirement, Cousins who ATL before the ink dried on his newly signed contract ATL drafted his successor and then the 3rd Goff. Sustained success means understanding the trends in the NFL and being ahead of the curve. Not latching yourself to old trends because they currently work. Lastly, players don't get paid for what they've done. They get paid for how they could potentially perform going forward. Goff was at his peak last year and in my opinion it only go down from here on out. That'ss why the Cowboys haven't paid Dak (MVP candidate) and Miami who no one has heard anything about Tua getting an extension. Overpaying and over extending mid tier talents like Goff typically doesn't work out. Ask the Vikings (Cousins), Cowboy (Dak/Romo), 49ers (Jimmy G), and Bengals (Dalton) . How many SBs did these teams win with these type of QBs? I'll wait 😂😂😂. So short of Goff winning a SB. No the Lions shouldn't give him top tier money or extend him for too many years. Just sayin
Get over it or find another team. It's gonna happen
"Goff was at his peak last year and in my opinion it only go down from here on out." Oh what a brilliant baseless assessment smdh....
@drayiii980 dude has been trying for 3 years now. It's an obsession at this point.
@@silent1759 Ahhh. Did hurt your feelings. Can't refute anything I said. So the only response is go find another team. My point went right over your head but what can I expect from a Goff slappies. You'd probably love it if the Lions renamed themselves the Detroit Goff's. That Goff bath water must be refreshing to you. Lol
@@drayiii980 Keep shaking your doesn't change the facts of anything I've said.
Love Goff
Sorry. Goff is benefiting from good players on offense. A modest qb will succeed in the Detroit system, which Goff has done. Remember, Jamal Williams in Detroit was not the same in New Orleans. #HendonHooker.
dang you believe in some one who hasn't even played in the nfl.
Sorry you're wrong. RB is not the same as the leader of the team and orchestrater of the offense. He has played great these past 2 years!. You can't penalize him for being in a great system.
You can't speak negative about Goff His D-I-c rider's gone be mad.
Lol has lead 2 different teams to the championship gm and one if those teams had a trash defense.
So what, Tom Brady was one of the best to play the game and as soon as they lost certain players they quit winning super bowls. Every QB benefits from the team that they're surrounded by, and our team is the S so what's your point?? Goff 2023 - 4th in Total Yards 4596 2nd in yards 4575 4th in TDs 30 7th in rating 97.9 and 3ed in yards PG 269.1 Give the man a brake.
If Hendon Hooker balls out this preseason. Will all this “pay Goff” talk go away?
I pray for
I already believe!! Pay the man 50 plus!!!
EXCEPT the fact that there were REPORTS saying that the 2 sides ARE NOT CLOSE
SORRY. Goff is not a $50M a year qb.
Neither is Lamar. What as he won?
Neither is Herbert
What has he won?
Stats and accomplishments say otherwise
He's about to be
Win the last game of the year
They should have done it last year. You can't blame Goff for the NFC Championship game.
I don't know who the guy with the annoying accent talking in the background behind Neal & Mac is, like he's in a movie theater, but it needs to stop. Nobody knows who he is, and nothing he adds is interesting. I had to turn it off. I can't stand it anymore.
I dont even think its hate its just honest assessment about who he is as a QB. I dont think Jared has had a better statistical season with the Rams than hes had here with the Lions and when you look at his complete body of work the conclusion ISNT that he’s not a good quarterback but moreso that hes a complimentary QB more than Franchise QB hes good when he has other good players around him, he does not elevate other average players around him like a Patrick Mahomes who basically carried the chiefs to a Super Bowl with a less than average receiving core. I want to see Jared Goff get paid BUT to me he needs the lions as much as the lions need him. He doesn’t have scrambling ability, his arm can be inconsistent at times, those are my two biggest knocks against Jared Goff but i want to see him get paid. I personally hope its like 2 or 3 yr deal because while he has been good for us since he got here he’s not the future if you ask me.
If Jared Goff loves this team, he should accept $35 Million a year so they can build around him. I mean the more I think about it, Jared Goff had a perfectly well rounded team in LA, but they just happened to run into the GOAT in Tom Brady. Otherwise he'd have a ring.
We not signing him
deez needes ta getz thems a blaq boi at qB yo. Payz Lamarzz 900000 billion per year yo
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