Apollo miniature poodle syncope fainting attack
2021 ж. 26 Нау.
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I hope this video can help others experiencing what my poor Apollo went through and you can get answers. After taking him to the vet 3 times he still wasn't getting better. So I asked for help on here. Syncope is what a new vet came up with after watching the video and listening to your comments. Just wish would of done this sooner, he passed away in June his kidneys failed on him didn't get him off the medicine he didn't need soon enough since I was trusting that he was having seizures even though he wasn't :( If any one needs help I hope this video and the comments will help you out. #pet #dog #dogattack #dogseizure #dogsyncope #poodle #miniaturepoodle #toypoodle #congestiveheartfailure #organfailureindogs
I want to thank you so very much for posting this vid. It has helped me so much, as i too have a little pom-pom with this condition. Also, i too have sought help from vet, with little to no conclusions. Most of all, i send love to you....that you and your little one always remain connected by the love shared from your hearts. ❤
Thank you so very much for this video, It has helped me very much. Thank you.
I lost my beautiful Bichon two weeks ago he collapsed and had his last stroke. He was somewhere between 15-17 years old he was a rescue dog and abandoned so there were no records on him. He had another stroke about three years ago and we was able to nurse him back to health although he wasn’t nearly as peppy as before. All I can say is love them while you have them they are truly a gift from God.
Yes they are I had Apollo for 12 years I was told he was 3-4 when I got him. It is hard watching them go through there attacks but being there I did noticed helped him through them I still can’t believe it’s been over a year since I lost him it still expect to see him when I wake up in the mornings
Thank you for the video. It sure helped me figure out my dog's problem. He has heart failure, now I know it is part of that and not to be scared.
You’re welcome. I am glad the video was helpful to you. When he go into the attacks just comfort him it is all you can do. I wish the best for you and your dog.
Firstly, I’m so sorry for your loss Thank you for this video. My border terrier has just started to have these episodes but only when she’s excited or her heart rate goes up when playing. I took her to the vet after the second episode (didn’t take her after the first one because it was so, so mild, over so quickly and she was right as rain afterwards). When I took her in I explained the symptoms and the vet’s first thought was syncope. Her heart sounded spot on and so were the reflexes when she checked her eyes. She’s got Cushing’s disease and gets 3 monthly blood tests so the vet just advised to get extra blood for testing to see if there was anything going on. She didn’t seem too worried but it’s awful to see them go through these episodes. My Roxy is such a happy dog who goes crackers with excitement when she sees people. It’s really sad that she goes through this whenever she gets excited now 😞 but I’ll just be happy if the bloods come back normal and I’m told this won’t kill her. She’s been through so much this year: Cushing’s, then she needed her gall bladder removed due to mucocele and now this! Thanks again.
It’s narcolepsy. Triggered by certain emotion, such as excitement. It’s obvious here he’s sleeping. He goes right from walking to having a cataplexy attack and going straight in rem (dream) sleep, which is why he’s barking. I think, as I am a person who also has this, if it happens due to excitement, your dog was misdiagnosed. Most doctors and vets don’t even know that excitement is a trigger and can’t explain the five symptoms. I’d get second opinion if your dog acts like this for sure though
@@katesthgreat7552 I went back to the vet because I just wasn’t happy at all. They did a blood test and found her red blood cells were very low. She needed a bone marrow biopsy to discover the cause but she first had to have a blood transfusion to get her stable enough. Thankfully, the biopsy showed no cancer and I was told it was an immune mediated response so she was started on steroids. She’s now doing great and is being slowly weaned off the steroids. She’s back to her usual happy self now and I just hope she stays that way. 🤞
Thank you for this post, I'm bawling as my dog is doing the same but vomits and his head goes right back I think its syncope.vet just put him on anti seizure meds but I'm going to hold off until I can confirm. I'm so sorry you lost your doggo. I know what you went through and it's heartbreaking
@Melfunction81 his started with just sitting there or sleeping and his head would just go straight up and back. He didn’t throw up. Then they turned into the video. After about a month they got worse he was on seizure pills all they did was make him sick had to wears diapers all the time because of the diarrhea from the medicine. Nothing I would do helped him the medicine didn’t help him at all. I just was with all the time and just was loving on him to keep him calm was the only thing I found to help with the attacks. I am sorry that you are going through this also it definitely is heartbreaking
I know this is 4 months late, but this definitely looks like syncope to me. My puggle has the same issue, which popped up about 2 months ago. My buddy's signs/symptoms are the same as your dog's. He starts kind of wobbling around and then his legs get really wide right before he goes to the ground. Sometimes he loses control of his bowels, which made think it was a seizure initially. It's not though. It's syncope and it lines up with his health history and signs I've observed. He was diagnosed as having an enlarged heart a while ago and he's on meds for it. I suspect he's dealing with congestive heart failure. Syncope is common in older dogs and heart issues are common with smaller breeds, so that's what the issue may be with Apollo. Check his tongue and gums. They should be pink and not bluish gray. It's good you recorded the episode so a vet can make a determination. My dog's last episode happened about a week ago and I recognized it coming on and caught it before he went down. I just put him on his side and tried comforting him until it passed. His heart was racing and he was practically hyperventilating. Apparently the brain shuts down for a few seconds because of a lack of blood flow. This is due to the heart working so hard. When it happened to my puggle, just relaxing and comforting him helps. He does seem a little spacey for about 15 minutes afterwards, but he does return to normal. He's had about 4 in the past couple months and none ever before that. One thing I noticed is that he drinks a ton of water. Excitement, coughing, and over exertion triggers the episodes. My suggestions would be to not overly exert Apollo on walks. Make them short and do it in the morning or evening when it's cooler. Avoid over excitement. When picking up Apollo don't put any pressure on his chest or throat. Grab the shoulders instead. If it's a heart issue these things will likely trigger a coughing fit and potentially syncope - at least that's what happens with my dog. Also be careful with leashes and avoid pulling overly hard because of the throat pressure. Lastly, just comfort your dog if it happens. Talk to him and reassure him. If you were passed out you'd want someone there helping too! Hope that helps, best of luck
Thank you for responding. I did everything I could. Didn't take him for walks if I did he was in a stroller. Limited his water drinking because he would have an attack drinking. Avoided any stressful or excitement. Just let him rest and stayed by his side. Unfortunately everything I did wasn't enough. He passed away in June. It took 3 diagnoses to find the right one and then I feel it was to late. Only came to the right one through kind people helping me on here not my vet thousands of dollars spend and they just kept saying seizures. Even when the episodes got worse with the medicine they still said seizures. The last vet visit was with a different vet and she listened to what I read on the comments and watched the video and said it was syncopee. The medicine he was on already slowed down his organs i only had maybe a month with him after that visit. But I spent every minute with him even in the end he was in my arms.
I m sorry to hear about Apollo. I am going thru something like this now. Mine has CHF and is taking Vetmedin, Furosemide, Spironolactone and Sotalol. It is a lot as taking care a sick pup is just overwhelming. He had something tonight like he was skating on the floor and I wasn’t looking and his nails were making the noise, I found him upside down trying yo get up. He finally did and saw the white frothy sputum, and like he vomited. It took him a minute to comfort himself, I grabbed him and held him. Gabby is 13.10 years old, May he is 14yo. What did you mean by the attack drinking? He started doing a lot of drinking than usual a day ago. The vet had told me not to limit his water intake as the pills he is on are diuretics, so more issues. What medications was he on? You mentioned that if you took him off he would have been better…. Going thru this sucks! Thank you in advance, you are so smart by putting this out here to help the world via Apollo. Xoxo
@@chickenfanactic I’m so sorry to hear about Apollo. I know it hurts. I lost my puggle Grommit, just weeks after I left my post for you. The vet found a large lump behind his shoulder that was cancerous. He declined quickly. The poor guy drank water constantly, rarely ate, and had no energy. The cancer was so aggressive that we eventually had to put him down because he became so sick towards the end. He went peacefully surrounded by everyone that loved him. It really hurts losing a friend. It took me weeks to get over it. I’ve had dogs my entire life and this one hurt the worst. There’s not a day that I don’t think about him 😔😥 When we were explaining the fainting episodes to the vet she felt he was having seizures. I was never able to capture one on video for the vet to properly diagnose it, but I know it was syncope and not seizures. Regardless, the vet wasn’t able to put him on any medication because he was already on a medication for his enlarged heart. I’m sorry you didn’t get proper medical advice and had to spend so much money. Vets need to do better. When I was younger we had a vet screw up and give our dog a steroid injection that was 10x the dose that he normally received and it killed him days later. Unfortunately I was the one to find him and I assume he died suffering. I remember my parents received a 3-figure check from the vet’s insurance company, but how do you put a dollar amount on a member of the family that was around for years?? 35 years later and it still bothers me. I hope you’re feeling better.
@@KZhead.Algorithmic.F-ckery I am sorry to here about your dog. You can’t put a price on a family member. I just lost another dog Sunday 😭 I haven’t stopped thinking about Apollo he will forever live in my heart and be in my thoughts
This helped me so much
Hello! My toy poodle is experiencing the same symptoms. Can you explain what you meant in your description when you stated “Just wish would have done this sooner” what do you think you could’ve done differently? So so sorry for your loss and thank you for sharing your video with us.
I wish I would of posted the video asking for help sooner. The first diagnoses was collapse trachea just put him on cough pills second diagnosis was seizures try a different medicine. This was over 6 months period even with the video they kept saying seizures but he kept getting worse by the time I got him diagnosed with syncopee with the help of using KZhead it was to late there was no helping him. I wish I never gave him the medicine for seizures and the cough pills it made him a lot worse. Monitor the water intake and excitement those were 2 big triggers for Apollo. I couldn’t leave him alone at all even if I left him with a family he would get anxious wanting me and go into an attack. Love them and watch for the triggers to avoid. Apollo’s we’re running walking for more than a couple minutes eating to fast drinking water more than 5 seconds excitement in any way even sleeping threw him into an attacks if I didn’t have my hand on him. I wish you all the luck for your toy poodle
My toy poodle had one of these episodes today was really scary... he's 11 in Feb next year... vets gave me antibiotics and others pills he has and absence on his anal glan. I pray he doesn't do it again x
Hello, i m so sorry for your little child….my chihuahua girl PARIS, just passed away last saturday…she was almost 9 years old. She had the same symptoms that i can read in the comments here…the same illness. She was takei g the pills…I can not understand if her parents had this congestive heart too, if this was a congenital disorder. Still can not accept that i will never see my little white angel again.
I am sorry to here about your Paris. I still am not used to waking up and not having my bubbies eyes looking at me. I rescued Apollo when he was 3 years old didn’t know anything about his parents. I just lost another dog Bella pure jack russel breed to congestion heart failure her parents both had heart issues we knew if when we got her as a puppy she was 15 years old.
@@chickenfanactic thank you very much for the answer...they will be always in our hearts...😢♥️🌹.
Did these start after starting the water pill? My chihuahua just began having these and I thought they were seizures but they did not start until after he was diagnosed with an enlarged heart and began taking Furosemide about three months ago.
He started the attacks before the Furosemide. The attacks he has when he is drinking water and eating started after his water pill heart pill and seizure pill. I feel the attacks got worse once he started his medicine. Why I feel they are not seizures.
Alexus Smith, Have a look at “syncope” as it’s not classed as a seizure, it’s quite common for dogs with heart failure or heart defects to experience episodes of this nature. Best regards, David.
Thank y’all. I had no idea about syncope until I saw this KZhead video, that’s why I assumed they were seizures. I was just curious if the Furosemide might be related to these episodes occurring or making them occur more often, since he hadn’t had one of these until after beginning the medicine. He had two within three days recently so I lowered his medicine and he has not had one again... so strange and scary to witness for our poor fur babies!
@@AN02468 I was just going mention, maybe reconfiguring his meds... might alleviate his symptoms? Here’s a link: kzhead.info/sun/d62nYJqveHuLl4k/bejne.html this is some-else going through... similar circumstances... they may be able to assist you? This is Teddy, he also went through heart disease: kzhead.info/sun/rLKpcdR8iZWbjHk/bejne.html Best regards, David.
I know the feeling of being scared and helpless watching the fur babies going through this. My baby is averaging 5 a day now at the bear minimum if he eats or drinks he has one now. I just comfort him the best I can to help him stay calm the barking I have noticed he does because he is scared when I am touching him he don't bark or scream when having the attacks
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It’s narcolepsy. Triggered by certain emotion, such as excitement. It’s obvious here he’s sleeping. He goes right from walking to having a cataplexy attack and going straight in rem (dream) sleep, which is why he’s barking. Poor thing
They ended up getting worse he stopped breathing his heart would stop beating then he would just come out of it. they were so scary the vets didn’t know what was going on. He eventually went into an attack and didn’t come out of it in my arms it has hard to watch him die but at the same time I knew it was best for me to let him go
My dog was 14 she had heart disease and taken medication for 2 years. This happen 3 times in 24 hours. It scare me so much and didn’t want her to suffer took her to the vet they did a X-ray and told me it’s time she had too much liquid inside. She was better and wagging her tail she was normal. And the vet told me it’s time to put her to sleep so she won’t suffer. Did I do the right thing ? :( please be honest. I’m watching videos and I think these are ok as long as it doesn’t happen for longer then 5 minutes.
If she was filling up with fluid her heart was failing her and she would suffocate and she would of suffered I feel you did the right thing. Apollo was having these attacks multiple times a day for awhile it was rough my vet never recommended putting him. She just kept trying different medicine I always ask myself if I did right by him and not putting him down
Thanks so much for replying. The love we have for an animal is soo huge and hurts so much.
Maybe heart desease. My dog has stage 5 heart murmur and his valves are not good, he gets syncope
It's a syncope I think, my dog just had this today, due to his leaky heart am sorry this happened to ur dog too
Thank you I took him to see 2 vets the second vet said syncope so we are treating him with medicine. It is hard to go through and I am sorry your are experiencing the same issues with your dog
@@chickenfanactic What medicine did the vet give you?
@@coreys3989 He was on furosemide which is a water pill, Enapril for his heart keppra for his seizures and cough tablets
@@chickenfanacticthose medicines you just described were those the ones they gave you after they diagnosed your doggie with syncope? Or before
Looks like syncope, how old is he?
15 years old
@@chickenfanactic did you get this checked by a veterinarian, does he have a history of heart murmur? Best regards, Dave.
@@chickenfanactic I hope he’s ok, sorry you’re going through this? Best regards, David.
@@davidbentick I had him at the vet last october they said he heart murmur there were not worried about it said he could of had it his whole life. I took him back in march when he started having these attacks they said he is showing signs of his heart failing and they think seizures. The meds they put him don't seem to be helping at all. He is having more and more episodes each day. He eats or drinks right after he is having an attack will wake up and have one can't walk for more than a few minutes or he will have one now. Right now all I can do is help him when he has an attack by talking and petting him but some times now he quits breathing and i have to give him cpr. I have had him 11 years its hard to just do nothing and watch him go through these. Thank you
@@chickenfanactic my Dachshund was diagnosed with a heart murmur after experiencing an episode of syncope. He was probably 5yrs old at the time, he didn’t seem to have anymore for a long time, until he got to his teens, he lived till he was 17, he passed away after having one of these episodes. It’s difficult to go through things like this, I found it extremely difficult loosing him. But remember it’s not your fault, 15 yrs is pretty old and he has lead a full life. I’m sorry 😞 it’s never easy. Love what time you have left with him, talk to him, tell him everything will be ok... let him know how much you love him? If you aren’t happy with the opinion of your current vet, go elsewhere and seek out a second, they may re-adjust his meds? Here’s a link: kzhead.info/sun/d62nYJqveHuLl4k/bejne.html this is some-else going through... similar circumstances... they may be able to assist you? This is Teddy, he also went through heart disease: kzhead.info/sun/rLKpcdR8iZWbjHk/bejne.html Best regards, David.
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The dog has had too unhealthy ways of living, likewise some other animals, dust insects etc where it was indoors. Those all should be encouraged to go out to ghe nature. It is also too hot and the food or water had some bacteria. Walks in the nature would help a lot.
He spent most of his time outside even when he got to the point he couldn’t walk without having an attack I bought a stroller to keep him outside. So I have no idea what makes you think he had an unhealthy way of living he lived for 12 years with was 15 years when he started his attacks so it was not his way of life