London Gangster On The One Killing That Haunts Him | Minutes With |
2021 ж. 15 Қаз.
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In this episode of Minutes with we sat down with former London gangster Bobby Cummines to find out about his life of crime, what he called his shotgun and the one killing that still haunts him...
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“Beware of an old man, in a profession where men usually die young”… Definitely comes to mind here.
very true
Oh shit that quote hits different
yup...
Never heard that before but logically it’s 100 percent correct.
My first guess is informant. Lol
The fact that he's so sophisticated and articulate while talking about lighting people up for money is so fucking scary lmao
@@peachesandpoets i mean no cause everyone else has english and irish accents lol
@@peachesandpoets What? He's English, everyone has an English accent in England
@@peachesandpoets BREAKING NEWS:english man speaks in an English accent in ENGLAND! oo scary Don’t try to be deep when there is no depth
The Key here for him is that he doesn't regret his choices. Some criminals are victims of circumstance, who looking back hate themselves for their choices. He wasn't that! He embraced that life because it felt right to him, which allowed him to find the silver lining in his history (except his one killing which wasn't planned).
Well he was a businessman.
that one officer who set him up with the knife single handed changed the whole trajectory of this man’s life
Razor not knife.
Turning point of his life
Hahah...all excuses.And people believe it.
That sounded like bullshit to me.
And ironically, changed England for the better in the long run
love how he talks about crime, "its exterminating rats" "its an insurance company", it's such a unique view on the world and it shows that criminals like these live in a different reality to normal people. The way he can justify the difference between killing a competitor to killing an innocence is astonishing, like imagine just killing your co-worker in the office because they are more likely to get the promotion before you and being like "that's just business".
He is comfortable killing people he knows are just as bad as he is. If you killed your coworker you would be killing an innocent, if he killed his he killed a piece of scum most likely
Just doing it the way our ancient ancestors did 😌
It's a different world. When I was very young I was going down a bad road and was dipping my toes in that type of life. It's just a different world. It's difficult to explain. You have to experience it to really get it. I'm glad I didn't get in deep and smartened up eventually. I'm thankful I got out and somewhat made a life for myself. It's nothing great by any means but it's better than where I was going
It’s just different. It’s really hard to explain, but those people live by different rules, and learn to get away with it. Part of the difficulty of leaving, is being it that world gives you the most unfiltered view of corruption in your area. Every dirty family, pedophile, dealer, dirty cop, murderer. They are in the underground, and you end up hearing of them, or meeting them. You learn how normal these people were on the outside. When you get into drugs, you learn just how many people actually do drugs. It’s insane. You see deciet from a wide view lens, and it shatters your world forever if you get into it as a kid. It ruins your childhood. Your imagination. Nobody is filtering anything to you, if they know you are about it. Edit: and let’s not pretend that while your in it, the money isn’t enticing
Can turn good people into monsters, just because some people you meet can bring out the worst anger you never thought you had. The situations you might find yourself in might seriously test your mental and physical ability at times. It’s not like normal life. That’s why these people are hard to get along with normally if you live a “normal” life
He sounds like such a sweet grandpa but then he’s asked the question “ what would you do if they came on your turf” and HE REPLIES “ well they did and I fired guns at them” so nonchalantly.😂
And he follows up with "yeah yeah, it-it was cool, but" lmao
@@albi7110 only ignorant Americans think this, we’re a lot smarter over here 😂
He sounds like a monster from a guy Ritchie movie stfu
@@albi7110 No places in the world is soft its all about your enviroment
imagine dating his grand daughter
"That's when we started the insurance business, though some people call it extortion" Had me dead🤣
I mean he confused it. I woulda thought he meant he protected other people who needed it kinda like The God Father so when he said extrortion it cleared things up immediately.
@@DarkTempler1 The implication there is that if you don't pay their "protection" then they will come back and vandalize your business.
@@DarkTempler1 He didn't really confuse it. It was quite apparent that it was extortion from them being the ones throwing the bricks through the windows.
@@Cheximus No hes not throwing bricks through windows you just pay some little toerag hoodies a quarter to throw bricks through windows.
@@garywebster3044 Well obviously I don't mean literally him - I meant someone of his gang.
I’d love to see an interview between gangsters from different parts of the world-like one from the UK, one from Latin America, one from the Bloods, an Italian mobster and a Yakuza.
Yeah, maybe the UK one calls Latin American one a few colourful nouns then Italian one makes an Asian joke about Yakuza so UK one makes an Italian joke about the Italian and before you know it everyone is shooting at each other like it’s a movie.
Latin America would be wild, just saying
A triad
Can we please throw a South African in there just to spice it up a little 😂
Yakuza is basically just been real estate for a while, from what i know they are much less of s criminal business, they work with the police there and mainly only harm worse criminals so it could be interesting depending on the person
"educating me was the worst thing they could have done" this hits even from a totally different life. That's why I appreciate people like this telling these stories so much. they "educate" all types.
“I don’t like being called a gangster" ladbible:"london gangster on the killing" :D
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Exactly, he'll be threatening Ladbible next "I told you I'm a fu*king business man you c**t".
@@ony583 hahahahahhahahahah
I know haha
its not hes decision to for example be called a florist when he indeed is a gangster
Man: “I don’t like being called a gangster” Ladbible: *proceeds to call him a gangster*
Exactly what I was thinking haha
Lol, I was about to comment exactly the same! 😂
I think at this point Bobby would probably concede that even though he may not like the label, he was what everyone else calls gangster.
Was about to write the same haha wtf innit
Because hes in denial, he absolutely was a gangster
The police officer that set him up made a great impact on him without even realizing it. As theory of social learning says, being labeled as a criminal can really stigmatize you to the level that you start viewing yourself as one and eventually adopting this role and becoming one.
Yep the good old policeman can turn a good man into a very angry bad man.
There's a lot of truth to that.
sad... "self fulfilling prophecy".
This business man is one of the most gangsta old dude's I've ever seen.
The thing I find most interesting is the beginning of his criminal career. He was born into a law-abiding family. It was only after he was set-up by 2 dodgy coppers for sticking up for himself/friends, and the consequences of that conviction that led him into a life of crime.
Poor excuse ive had runins he could still do kegit buisness or mechanic or labour
I wouldn't trust a word this man says
Amen x
@A Great Man Named Lieu so toss your morals out? become as bad as the people who rigged you in the first place? no logic to that, just straight immature talk. first of all we do not know if that story is even true, even if it is, it doesnt justify crime whatsoever. especially when you have a supportive family and high quality of education. its wrong and he served his time for it, probably should be put away for life but god will sort that out.
@@zaidmahmood1538 no, it doesn't justify his choices, but you can certainly understand how an experience like that changed his outlook on life. especially as a kid. and one thing that doesn't get talked about much is how hard it is to get out once you start down that path.
“So i got into the insurance business, some call it extortion” LMAO
Great advert for Axa life.
Same thing.
Pretty much, yeah. states are the greatest extortionist and criminals! xD
@@VindensSaga yup
@@Edgisco it is staggering how much these people convince themselves they’re doing nothing wrong
From facing off criminals, to facing the Queen. Goes to show you that one’s past never determines your future.
But then again, look at the criminality of the royal family.... Lol!
@@NoOne-sn2si not everyone's clean fancy pants
So he met the biggest criminal of them all lmao
@@-aid4084 Really? Prett Ironic from your kind seeing as your people constantly terrorize and invade other countries..who aint PERFECT.
@@SmokingzMagiczTreez That's what I'm saying. No particular species has a clean slate asshole. I am not like that though, because I have morals. I hope you do too.
This man's life was a movie itself. Started from a young teen who got corrupted, leaving no choice but to turn to crime. Multiple gang story arc until the final arc where he did something that shouldn't had happen. Went to prison and realized the beauty in life and started to change his life for the better. After prison decided to not return to his gang life but instead lived a low-profile life in a village with his family and enjoyed peace. The last final chapter was when he received his OBE, which was the cherry on top where he had finally proved himself to his father that he had made it. What a life this man had.
No choice but to turn to crime? Give your head a shake.
@@sjv6598 Some people don't have a choice.
@@wumbomandlx everyone has a choice
@@louissiddell453 You can only choose from the situations you are presented with. If it was death or crime, I'd choose crime.
@@sjv6598 So there is someone with a brain here..First of all..I don't believe him. And second: he said he came from a normal family. And for one single episode he had no choice but to purse a life as criminal..hahaha...
"Someone called me a gangster, So i stuck a gun in his mouth and told him i’m not a gangster..." lol Best line !
LADbible: London gangster
this was the last video from LadBible lol
😂
Nemesis
That was a classic….hilarious line🤣
When he mentioned how even a short prison sentence, changed his perspective for the worse. It shows you how our legal system actually created more and far worse criminals.
when i was 19 i got into beef with my weed man. we ended up running in his house and taking his money and other stuff. i was in college at the time, with no prior record. did 6 months in a probation detention center. mann i learned how to make shatter and ice, got affiliated with piru and gangster disciples, and how to distrust authority. Then i get out at 20, no longer able to go to school, unable to get a meaningful job, and a felony record, as well as 10 years felony probation. Not only was i put in a position where i cant make money or be a contributing member of society, i was still forced to pay my probation and supervision fees, or else violate my probation and possibly spend the rest of my probation in an actual prison. it truly is a system that can turn a mistake or light criminal into a career criminal or repeat offender.
Yeah the way our system works, you get that first offence and it's all over for you: the ceiling on what you can possibly do with your life from that point on fucking plummets, often regardless of educational attainment or job experience. At that point what are your choices? A life of menial employment, self-employment (which you need resources for to begin with) or crime.
UK living is Double standards life
@@downbeat110 I don't know where you're from, but I'm from the US, and I got lucky as shit honestly. I learned my lesson at 17 (literally 2 months before turning 18 btw). Got 10 felony charges for spray painting and destruction of property, but because I was a minor, I got off incredibly light and with no record. I have no idea how bad it could have gotten if I was over 18 with 10 felony charges, but I feel for you man.
@@downbeat110 how did you get in trouble for robbing the weed man? He called the cops?
Ya know he says he isn't a gangster, he's a businessman, and his business is crime. And honestly based on the way he carries himself, talks about his past, what he did in his past, I'm inclined to agree with him. He really truly seems like a selectively detached pragmatic businessman, simply doing what makes the most sense and is the most lucrative.
He got villains to smash the windows of people who owned shops - ordinary working people like the ones he talks about in the chip shop - and then extorted money from them to have the damage stop. It's understandable that he justifies it to himself by calling it 'insurance' in order to ease his own conscience. What's worrying is people like yourself who can see that he's a villain and yet still somehow swallow the 'it's all just business' nonsense. Frightening.
@@BlackCatLuckyBag What's truly frightening is your complete lack of understanding and empathy for people who have had terrible pasts, paid their dues to society, reformed and are making an active effort in their communities to help ensure young impressionable people don't go down the same path they did. No one is swallowing any nonsense, his actions are entirely condemnable, it's simply fascinating to explore the idea that not all criminals are as you say "villains" and that some are more rational than others as well as their general psychology.
@@BlackCatLuckyBag it’s always the people whose had 0 conflicts in their life or never got into a confrontation past 12 years of age talking about morals and what’s frightening. Your naïveté and and complete lack of acknowledgement of how people justify themselves. I bet you’re the type to say you shouldn’t kill to survive but it’s okay to steal so you can eat. They’re both wrong and illegal. But you draw the line on the how severe it is. AKA knitpicking what is okay and what’s not based on your own biased views. When it’s all bad. Either understand and be empathetic to everything or say no to all crimes.
This guy is literally like a real-life Batman villain and it is kid scary tbh
He’s a sociopath.
The end two minutes absolutely broke me. The full circle moment of wishing his dad was there to see him receive the OBE and mingle with the “toffs” was what got me - I lost my dad 7 years ago today and even in that time wish he could see how my life has changed. The last answers he gave, about life boiling down to if you are a good person or a bad person. About having to go through hell to appreciate heaven. After having heard his story, and these profound statements he’s made - I’m in bits
“You’re a celebrity in the crowd, but you’re the loneliest person in the crowd because you’re paranoid.” That’s deep.
Not really, no. It's a pretty common thing, not only in his world.
Pure logic. If you make enemies, you have to watch your back. Not so deep. Your quite easily impressed. Read a book someday, that's deep
It may have been deep when I was 13 or 14 years old. But that's an old and common saying.
@@_Turn-On I’ve read several books, and served in the military; I found this thought profound because it’s something not commonly allowed in our psyche as males given how toxic masculinity has come to permeate every facet of life as a male in modern society.
@Hello my name is Brandon you’re entitled to your own opinion on things.
The man's body language clearly never changed. He still caries himself like he's still 25 and running the shop.
probably still has connects and people under him
@@lukeyy1664 he’s gone straight now he used to run a charity called unlock
@@Mbard333 unfortunately the internet only tells you what you want know as well.
@@13YoJest13 he used to run a charity called unlock
@@Mbard333 cool but does the internet tell you everything he does in his life? No only what he let's get put on it. Is that such a hard concept to grasp?
"If you're going to make me a bad guy, I'll show you how bad I can be" sounds about right with our justice system.
I came across this video by chance. What you went through is so scary to me, but i would like to wish you all the best and thank you for sharing your story. You have my respect.
I can't believe after all that, LADbible called him a Gangster.
lol its true... bet he's screwin
Someone at LADbibble could be getting a gun in their mouth and told otherwise 😆
Can’t exactly call him “London Businessman” though could they 😂 say what you want but you gotta call a spade a spade.
They have to make you click some how... would you have clicked if it said, "19 minutes with a business man"?
Well he was you lemon
I bet he’s still getting free fish and chips somewhere.
@@alfie2488 did u watch the video?
@@alfie2488 well thats a You problem not a Him problem , english my 2nd language and iv never been to UK but i still understand him perfectly fine .
@@alfie2488No worries hahahah. I wasn't offended, just confused. The man in the video said he helped a fish n chips "restaurant" deal with their issues. But instead of getting paid in cash for his service he only asked to get free fish n chips whenever he or his family wanted. Hope that cleared things up.
@UCIs8nMrLPZ8XWzctCmIQetw u ain’t gota take the piss
@@alfie2488 you’re definitely one of those guys who would’ve of got knee capped in the 60’s 👌🏻
1) you have to witness hatred and venom to appreciate love and beauty 2) don't torture an innocent 3) have faith 4) don't mess with the wrong crowd it will lead you to a wrong direction
I think what he's said in this interview is very real and truthful. my brother was a good child but he was only accepted by " bad " kids. he was able to rationalize bad things he did by saying he didn't do innocent people. you only go after people living in your world. we lived a very middle class neighbourhood and there was a Hells Angel full patch member who lived around the corner. my parents were considered the one timers of the neig and my mum was beloved by almost everyone. if your dog got out she would bring it back so it wouldn't land up in the pound. if your kid was hurt she'd patch em up and take them home. one day a couple of bullies targeted an old man in our neighbourhood and he stood up to them. they went home and came back with their father who turned out was a low level enforcer in a criminal organization. he killed the old guy with a baseball bat. the Hells Angel member was furious at this. he had a code of ethics. you don't hurt people living outside that lifestyle. he wanted retribution and he made it happen. every summer there would be a huge gathering at his place and no one said anything because we knew that in a bad situation he would be there watching your back. you take the good with the bad. some people are just pure evil and like to hurt or kill. but alot of organized criminals are in it for what this man said. it's a business. I've never been involved in that lifestyle but I can under what he is saying.
"someone asked me if i wanted to do an armed robbery" "so i said alright" priceless
As casual as that lol
He was like 16 as well 😂
How much bohh 😂
I’ve took longer to reply to me pal about going for a quick pint 😂
awight
20 minutes listening to this man felt like 20 seconds... So rare to see someone who actually knows himself, knows what he wants and what he's doing
Narcissists are the alpha mind set
knows himself? sorry to break this to you, but he has no idea who he is. he has no idea what he wants, he has no idea what he's doing. he was in jail for his whole life. he doesn't know shit. He just took the first path he noticed, he never really made any choices. I wouldn't give him any admiration at all. He's just a violent simpleton.
and is willing to be completely honest about it. Respect.
If you like him so much why don't you marry him?
@@taf8903 - Are you psychic?
One of the most straight up accounts of a person's life journey of discovery. What profound advice....at the end of the day...all that matters is doing what is right.
I was super invested in Sir Bobby's story. Thank y'all for sharing.
Him: "I'm not a Gangster, I'm a business man." LADTV: London Gangster On The One Killing That Haunts Him.
I guess they could've said "London business Man On The One Bad Business Decision That Haunts Him".
@@theexplodingmothfromhell8012 EXACTLY my chap!
guess they like rock salt in their legs huh
@@Marconel100 lol
its not hes decision to for example be called a florist when he indeed is a gangster
I’ve never had a more torn opinion on someone in my life. In one sense i’m stunned by how straight up he is. I admire his attitude. I am in awe of his story, what a life. I respect the charitable work he’s done in rehabilitating younger kids. I’ve also not seen charisma like his before, not in real life. He could genuinely qualify as a movie character, which is why he’s appealing. On the flip side, I find it weird that I would even consider offering admiration to him. I mean, imagine if that ‘innocent’ he killed was your parent. Just going about their day, doing their work, living their life totally separately. Are we going to brush past that because he’s sorry and lit a candle. At the end of the day, he was a gangster. Let’s be for real here. He was. Now he has an OBE. He choked a random guy on their own vomit, and shot many more, who knows how deserving? My mind is boggled. Either way, interesting man, interesting video.
You’re not alone thinking along those lines
he also has done time for that killing which in return made him who he is today... so my opinion is more on the good side but still... he made life worse for a lot of people
@@Nomad_859 Its really hard to judge, like I think u re right but if he did some time because because he killed someone I knew that another story so when try to put urself in the shoes of the victims loved ones it became much harder to judge him as good side even if he did 20 years
100% true about the innocent. That part is unforgivable, and I don't think he forgives himself. If there's any way an innocent person can get killed or maimed, that's on you, whether it SHOULD have happened or not. That said... I dunno if anyone can take him at his word, but for anyone IN the game, that's just what it is, fam. If you sit down at that table, sometimes you get a shit hand and Bobby shows up on your doorstep. That's on you. It's a shame an innocent was killed, as otherwise I'd like him a whole lot more.
Cognitive Dissonance: What Happens When Reality Trumps Perception We hold many thoughts and beliefs about the world and ourselves. When two thoughts clash, a discrepancy is evoked, resulting in a state of tension. This tensions is called cognitive dissonance. Cognitive dissonance is the mental stress or discomfort experienced when holding two conflicting thoughts. It occurs in situations where a person is presented with facts that contradict that person’s self-image, attitudes, beliefs or behaviors. This includes: Holding two or more contradictory beliefs, thoughts, or values at the same time. Consuming new information that conflicts with existing beliefs or conclusions.
13:02 This is pretty much a universal thing in prisons. I have a cousin that is currently 57yo, and from the time he was 16 until now, he has only spent a total of six years and four months on the outside. He once told me that if they keep you locked up for five years or more, they should never let you back out. He says he went in as a scared 16yo kid and came out a career criminal.
I enjoy listening to this man. You can tell he’s being very honest about what’s he’s seen and done, I feel like people in that world nowadays do things or claim to have done things to try and instil fear. Another similar interview literally has a young lad talking with older ex criminals and you can see on his face so clearly the younger lad is terrified realising how much of a ‘wannabe’ the younger generations are.
liinnkkkk?
“We got bricks chucked through their windows twice then I went in there and told them we can stop it from happening. Some people call it extortion but it was insurance” it was LITERALLY extortion 😂😂
Brother please, the gentleman kindly explained that it was insurance. It's insurance. 🙂
Listen, mate; if the Man says it's insurance, it's bloody insurance innit?
@@youtb210 😂😂😂
How about you look it from a different angle, assurance is not so different as what extortion does. They both make you pay and often without, you get confronted and forced to get it, because without it is a whole lot of problems when you do need it. These days politicians are becoming the crooks as well. deceive, lies and fraud you name it. Are they really so different from the ones we keep in the prison?
It wasn't vandalism, it was "creative marketing" lol
It still blows my mind how ladBible feels like the good old days of vice. Keep up the great work!
@@PhoenixTubez if that was true then I would laugh.
Also should check out Soft White Underbelly if you haven’t already.
Sure
@Milk and cereal vice is shit qnd has been for the past couple of years.
@@ScamLikely9327 soft white underbelly has some great interviews from a wide range of people with all sorts of backgrounds
A truly genuine and heartfelt video. Absolutely incredible this bloke. I always struggled with being a good guy or bad guy. I thought you were either one or the other. But this person shows, you can do bad things and good things, and its never to late to impact someones life in a positive way, or perhaps turn his negative life of crime to ultimately a net positive outcome.
That was such a brilliant interview, it was very understanding in many ways of where the man has come from and where he has currently got to, throughly enjoyed it
I'm here becase of Tom Holland
Yep
Sames. He’s my boy
I think .ost of us are😅
Same here
Why?
“That's Tommy. He tells people he was named after a gun. But I know he was really named after a famous 19th-century ballet dancer.”
😂 belter
I saw him in a film once.... Rocky 5 i think.... Tommy Gunn
What do I know about diamonds? Don't they come from Antwerp?
Five minutes, Turkish!
What's in the car? Seats and a stearing wheel
Such a great interview.Genuinely,really good!
I loved his interview with True Geordie! A Fascinating glimpse into a dangerous time that strangely had its own set of rules. Thanks for being candid Mr Cummins.
This Guy: talking about how he’s sticking a gun in someone’s mouth - because he was called a gangster LADbible: proceeds to call him a London *Gangster*
@@passingthrough... Why is that?
@Loreo123 more like MadLad bible, amiritie?
I could imagine him dropping a dude for callong him gangster, then two dudes be like "yooo that was gangsta man, you a..." then he starts shootinf them lol
I mean he is a Gangster, he calls extortion just business he just doesn't like the be called a gangster.
@@passingthrough... doesn’t save him ;)
I met Bobby Cummines in 2010 through his work with the ex-prisoner charity Unlock in HMP Maidstone. A very bright man with a tangible sense of responsibility, he showed a real passion for passing on his hard learned lessons to young people. He told me if you can deal drugs you have all the basics skills to have a successful legitimate business- it’s about getting out of the environment where you’re trapped in the cycle. An honour to have met him.
Seems like a guy who did bad things, but takes responsibility for it. I can respect that. I know several people like that through my line of work. It's refreshing, and I honestly respect the hell out of em.
@GamingBadly thank you. Yes it does. It shows that I respect people who have learned from their heinous past and gone on to share their experiences and work hard to help young people not make the same mistakes. I’m pleased you recognised this. To err is human, to forgive is divine.
@GamingBadly Here here! To look up to someone who has had the honesty to sit down in an interview and cop to what he has done is an admirable trait that we can all learn from. So many of these types end up sitting in prison, or on the streets proclaiming that they are all in the right. It goes to show that people can make it back from the brink.
@GamingBadly Well, he got an OBE from the Queen of England. They don't just hand those out willy-nilly. I would say quite a few people respect this man. Not for what he was, but for what he has become.
The flipside is, a legitimate business is unlikely to turn such a profit. Short term gains far out weight legitimacy to the young and dumb.
9:43 "And in the end it don't matter 'cause you're only doing rodents anyway, you know, you're doing rats" That's really powerful, the way he affirms that so matter-of-factly and offhand shows how deeply he's internalised it
It's a very common military thought. You dehumanize the enemy so that you feel nothing when you kill them. I find it extremely disturbing, but it is interesting how both sides of the coin have basically the same moral codes in order to keep going.
@@heyitsmira17 it’s pretty much a fundamental rejection of everything it means to be human to do this to your fellow man
@@Creepystalker102 it's like he says in this very video, they wouldn't hesitate to kill him if given the chance, so he kills them before.
Am i the only one that listened the whole thing because of the tone of his voice?it calms you down...
There is something about the subtle confidence that man has that makes me think he's quite a scary guy to have on the wrong side. Not just going by his stories but just how he portrays himself.
I can’t believe these people were awarded OBE.. it beggars belief.
Some people just have that air of confidence, you get the loud mouths who have done nothing, they think they're gangsters and villains... They always say it's the quiet ones and it is... He has a confidence about him that just says "I've done it"
@@dunbass7149 Order of British Empire
@@buak809 good lord
Quite scary? The man is a psychopathic killer ! A hit man !
"If you're gonna make me a bad guy, I'll show you how bad I can be." This man is the maddest of all lads. Edit: This is at 1:47 btw.
"lads" what is that
It shows how the police ruined it, like they were playing around with a starting gun(which shoots blanks) and planted something on him. He came from a good family
@@wasupman777 have you never heard anyone say "lad" before?
@@interestingchannelname1063 I'm in the U.S pal, ppl around me never used such word! But I looked it up already
@@wasupman777 ah ok that makes sense, its much more used over here in britain.
You never picture life being like such a movie but when it is it’s fascinating
This is so good. He's calling out society problems, cultural problems, and systematic problems actually still present today. It was a bit easier to get away with things back in the days, but they had style :)
I’ll never get tired of this series. They should show this in schools. If we all took the time to listen to one another’s stories, and tried to build empathy with those around us, especially those that live different lifestyles, the world would be a much better place.
@Rob Wood what the f*ck kinda drugs are you on?
Education system is still stuck in the past it doesn't teach what the kids need to know (apart from Maths & English) everything else is archaic in todays society, plus the educational system is not tailored to the individual as we all learn at different rates and we all have different understandings/views on many things.
@@socalstorm2590 Drugs? Mate its true look into it. Some world leaders are Alpha Draconians (Lizard people) if you look into it you'll see how Jesus Christ was an alien and his mother Virgin Mary was impregnated when she had an extra terrestrial encounter with a Alpha Draconian named gabriel which impregnated her without the act of intercourse. All this explains Jesus' powers to heal and lots of things he did. Please look into it before you accuse people of taking narcotics. This is no joke have a look into this topic and you'll open your eyes and see the real world don't be one of the sheep.
@Rob Wood We won't let those bastards win. Some of these youngsters need to open their eyes.
@Rob Wood lmao talk about deluded what you been injecting lmfao
Doesn't want to glamorize crime - looks like the coolest gangster dude ever
And talks
Don’t call him a gangster or he’ll put a gun in your mouth 🤪
Filth
Businessman!
Thanks for interview 💯
I stand corrected. "You have to witness hatred and venom to apreciate love and kindness" is really my biggest takeaway from this, and in all honesty, its also what I really needed to hear today. Thank you.
LADbible: When you went to prison, how was it like?, "It was like a University of crime". Give this man a show.
I guess you haven't seen the movie "Blow" with Johnny Depp. "Danbury wasn't a prison, it was a crime school. I went in with a Bachelor of marijuana, came out with a Doctorate of cocaine"
@Harvey Smith true
When I've been to prison you start networking with others to make cash your right you come out a better crinimal
Come off it, that comment is as old as the hills. This guy is a walking cliché. Only harmed villains and not civilians (well apart from the innocent guy he accidentally killed), loves the Queen. Loves his mum. Always dresses nicely. Kindly helped out a working man (but extorted other working men when it suited). I guess he must have done some good work with rehabilitating prisoners if he got an OBE. But he says he deglamorises crime… yet is pretty boastful about his previous violence. I wouldn’t say all this to his face though, for obvious reasons 🤣.
@Harvey Smith blow is based on true events 😂
“…. So i stuck a gun in his mouth and told him i’m not a gangster i’m a business man and my business is crime …” 😂😂😂😂 thats gotta be the best sentence any “gangsters” ever said in the whole history of gangsters. He’s serious too.that line needs to be taken and used in a gangster movie. Old dudes nuts.😂
Not a gangster!
True geordie podcast
In layer cake he says something like ‘I’m not a drug dealer, I’m a business man it just so happens my business is drugs’
@@gordonramsdale good movie
@@potto1488 Just a creep.
"I was out there to earn money. I weren't out there to hurt people. If I had to hurt them, that's because they put themselves in a position where they had to go." HE. IS. THE PUNISHER. And it was so interesting how he thought prison was a "university of crime". Heck, his entire perspective on it and how he entered the crime business because of one unfortunate situation is such a fascination to me.
Easily one of the best videos I’ve ever watched on KZhead. Keep it up LB!
I love how he says you dehumanize them. That's one of the most honest and straight forward things I've ever heard!
@Future President Bobby Cummings is certified. Google him.
Same thing that soldiers have done for millenia. It also called "othering." Like using slurs / slang names for the enemy.
@@kaizen5023 sounds a lot like Twitter
@@Dannyjedge Yeah sounds like the alphabet mafia. Bunch of tossers.
You have the same going on in the army, police, and to quite some extent, health care. At some point, people stop seeing humans as peers, but as cattle. If you are lucky, you get someone that is the equivalent of a kind veterinarian, but they will still see you as lesser than them.
"We had a bit of gang warfare" Of course really he means "insurance business warfare"
More like “friendly buisnes competitions”
@John Johnson 😂😂😂. Right ? This is why I ADORE this guy and just the British in general.
"i don't like to be called a gánster, one guy call me a gánster and i put a gun in his mouth to teach him that im not a gánster" that's the most gansta quote i've ever heard lmao
"You have to witness hatred and venom to appreciate love and kindness" Enough said.
@@TheDanpatdoy Yes you do. Like you can only appreciate having food when you starved before, you can only appreciate freedom when freedom was taken from you, you can only appreciate you physical integrity after you lost or damaged part or your body, you can only appreciate peace after war or quiet after a storm. Just because you have something it doesn't mean you appreciate it. Just because you have money it doesn't mean you appreciate it, but try loosing it or spend it unwisely ...... You will appreciate it in time of need.
“One guy called me a gangster so I stuck a gun in his mouth and educated him I wasn’t a gangster” what a great line
So original
@Supplanter because its a great quote
Rehearsed and cringe worthy
@@alanmyr1507 yea threatening someone's life such a great quote
Solid, straight-talking guy talking the truth about criminality. I could listen to him all year.
Take it you dont get out much
He’s a thug who isn’t worth our time
@@criert135 I couldn't agree more
Bruh, if you're for real, all you gotta do is hold up a jewelry store, two minutes from a police station. You'll get caught, then meet guys like this fella, then you'll be listening to guys like him for a LOT of years. Or become a CO, either way, that's where all these fellas end up.
same bro a lot to learn
Man such a great story dude, there is no glory in crime and even the most notorious gangsters say it
This man has ice flowing through his veins and pure wisdom from his heart
I think you are right. I think he is a man who has grown spiritually through suffering, age, and experience. Those of us born into poverty can easily see the way out as "The Game". If you want to see the worst, check out some of the 15 year old SICARIOS in Central America who have killed 50 people, and are content to stay stoned and play video games. I read a wise spiritual thought somewhere: " It is not how you start, but how you finish, that counts". This man has done bad and good. Who else hasn't? But, He had the spiritual stregnth to go out there. So, Kudos!
Gangster: im not a gangster im a business man alright! Lad bible: "London gangster on the killing that haunts him"
Lmao
Right 😂🤣
“London business man on the one killing that haunts him” just doesn’t have that ring to it
They got balls as big as spacehoppers
Yep, been said 14 times.
These types of so called "Businessman that do business in crime" are 100% more scarier then the gangs we have nowadays.
Because they’re intelligent
@@cursedlemon7368 I actually think the opposite. A lot of these old time crims from the 60's and 70's were as thick as mud. They wouldn't survive in 2021. Getting away with criminal activities back then was easy. Just listen to him talk about dodgy passports and checking accounts. It was ridiculously easy. What they weren't doing at 15 was running around stabbing people in the street and then making a rap song about it and putting it out on snapchat. That to me is scarier as there aren't any rules now.
@@LCOF you would be correct, with the invention of Forensics and finger printing including the invention of Modern Police vehicles they wouldn't survive nowadays compare to 60s London. But at least in those times the police were actually feared by everyone, you never openly disrespected a Constable because they had no hesitations to slap you silly. On top of this all police officers back then were always above 6ft and can knock the socks out of people without the chance of being done for assault. Finally, the cherry on top of it all. But still, people in London 2021 carry knives to make themselves feel safe, I always have a stab vest due to my occupational. (Sec, Officer at a hospital.) These gang members nowadays do have rules... they know to never kill police, (Common sense.) But as for innocents.... be careful out there. And don't wear fancy clothing and drive fancy cars around the more tough areas.
@@LCOF but its relative, back then they didn't have a clue what was more than they already had. Just how probably in the future some people are gonna be like 'Wow how did we not know that this would make this happen'
@@kxsmarion5978 true but if you smacked a copper back you'd get a smack not 10 years in prison It's hard from both sides, the police are the biggest gang and just don't play fair There was respect in the old days I hear coppers whine about not being able to smack people around but a copper smacks a person around worst case scenario they lose their job, they never really get done for it You smack them back and you're looking at years, they'll go for you more for punching a copper than stabbing an innocent person Compared to the old old days, it's just a joke, first copper to be killed on duty in england was breaking up a fight and the judge didn't prosecute the people who killed him because he overstepped the line, now days they'd be locked up and throw away the key It goes both ways really
“I had to go through hell to appreciate heaven” this man has some of the best messages I’ve ever heard
Its a British thing, the guy is so classy. “It was an Insurance business” 😂
"I had to go through hell, To appreciate Heaven..." What a sentence, Nuff Said.
Okay Jamie Underwood
And its so true ... binary ... you have to touch hell to know heaven ... got to have bad to have good ... criminals live life to extremes .. to the low lows the the peasurable highs ... gives you a huge well of knowledge to draw from and understanding of human behavour ...
@@conmac8006 Okay Con Mac
@@phantomhivedark okay noodles
Just like Dante in The Divine Comedy
"Business man on the one killing that still haunts him"
@Momma Bear in my eyes you have won the Internet with that comment lmfao.
@Shibbehhh you a fool, but i love you stranger
@Shibbehhh priceless thank you x
"I was not a ganster. I was a businessman. And my business was crime" That is the definition of gangster mate...
Amazing channel. The violin at the intro is pretty awesome too.
He's still far more trustworthy than the politicians.
Damn...post this during elections...
Yeah, right.
Integrity. Something politicians don't have.
@@hexx.hockey honesty.
Politicians are the ruling classes dogs.
Bobby: ‘I hate being called a gangster' Unilad: 'london gangster'…….
"Unilad admin has requested time off work after being paid a visit by rough businessman, last night! Who shoved his Kennedy in the mouth of the admin and demanded that the YT video is titled correctly!"
@@originalunoriginal4055 due to unforeseen circumstances Uninlad would like to change the name of this Video to "Respectable Businessman relives jolly memories of London in the 60's".
camps for the dirty being built in Australia... kzhead.info/sun/htybhNCfoZ1rq4U/bejne.html
Not only fascinating but this mans life knowledge and morals are worth gold
That was a awesome interview 👏
That OBE was the biggest plot twist I've ever seen
What's an OBE?
@@memevarg2530 Officer of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire
Ridiculous he was given one.
@@memevarg2530 basically a royal award given for an accomplishment
Must have pulled a Tommy Shelby
The way he explains his ethics behind the work; and his mind set for the accidental death of an innocent person, its strangely comforting to know it hurt him for life knowing he caused it... 🥺💀
corny teared up emoji.. those lit candles are cold comfort to the family.
@@zedlizst2459 I personally wouldn't waste the 🕯️ 😎
I don't know where you two are. What you do. And all that. But, there IS a code. And if you're not going by the code. Someone will come to you one day and explain it to you. Bobby knows the code. And it's more than those innocent's. But Bobby has Honor. And when you do those things and you still have Honor. It's because you've lived and worked according to code. But if you're not working that kind of work. You just wouldn't understand.
They way he defines all those crimes very nonchalantly makes him a legend.
@@TheDanpatdoy glorifying criminals is indeed very questionable
Love how he talks so openly abo it killing but also seems to feel sorry for himself like he’s been hard done by😂
I spent 10 years in level 4 prisons in California( Pelican Bay, High Desert, Calapatria< Lancaster, Corchran) and I know he's being very true. The most polite location's on earth are Level 4 Prisons (Or your countrys version.) Any form of disrespect can very easily be your death. The biggest Baddest dude you ve ever met will learn Please and Thank You over night. Believe That
10 long years damn. I hope everything is okay nowadays, or at least on a better track.
Very true
I bet those 10 years weren't for tying your shoe laces backwards
@@kartracer93 they were NOT tying them.
Truth. I was a C.O. at a max sec. Respect is everything. Sure, there were time where I had to do work..other times the unit "ran itself". But you learn quick respect, given and gotten, is life and death.
Prison: a University for crime. Painfully poignant words.
It always has been qnd always will be
Con college
You got suckered into that sob story too, apparently. There's likely a very happy narc in your future.
I admire the way he takes accountability
I just wanna say, I love how he synonymized 'insurance' and 'extortion' together lol
This guy dresses so sharp I'd be worried about him cutting me.
Na Adam...he's not gonna get your claret all over that powder blue bag of his now is he? If he rocked up in a pair of overalls...ld bolt mate!
@@baabaabaa2293 sage advice
Best dressed bloke to ever walk through LADbibles doors.
I'd be worried about that regardless
This is one of the most honest and straight forward interviews I have ever seen.. This must be shown to all those bureaucrats and politicians..
He's lying throughout, to himself and us. Granted I only put up with 5 minutes
@@winmine0327 How do you know?
@@cf1925 He litteraly says he was shooting vermin. That is a lie he tells himself to survive. The whole thing of looking at it like he is not a ganster also reads like it. Don't get me wrong it's probably as he says the only way to survive it and none of us know what he was going through so no judgment here. Point is everyone paints a better image of themselves than the real thing.
@@cupofjitters4501 Good point. I wasn't trying to be passive aggressive, it was just a genuine question since I didn't watch the video beforehand.
@@cupofjitters4501 I think you pretty grossly misunderstood the points this gangster is conveying. He wasn't lying about his feelings when calling his victims "rats," "vermin," etc. The dude even explicitly said he dehumanized his victims as a coping mechanism to live with himself, because the alternative might be suicide. Not once did he actually convey that he STILL thinks his victims are lesser humans.
This man is what you call a true original gangster. They just dont make them like him anymore
Ok
What an honest man, that had to have been a hard story to tell and admit to. Respect for owning up to a horrible mistake.
Without doubt the most real and impactful content from an individual I have seen in 2021.
Uh how lmao
Rey, from Soft White Underbelly wants to know your location
The other gangster dude who was shot in the face was pretty intense, too
@@andrewoverhere8525 Aha… great point. 😂
@@perculated7666 tf you mean "how"
This guy's exact lookalike lives next door to us, old fella, we love him, kindest person ever. They're the same age, same looks, they talk and move the same, down to the smallest gestures. I've never seen two people look more the same, amazing. "Uncle Leslie" is not a rich man though, lives alone, does not have a suit, and he has been a straight goer all his life. Circumstances are everything I guess. Great episode.
Pretty sure you've got a gangster living next door old boy.
I don't think so. Once someone called him that, but he told him he is a businessman. Then he pulled his gun out of the guy's mouth. 😃
Sure he lives in Manchester
@@sandorpalcso1142 Yeah definitely not a gangster then.
Thanks
I really enjoyed this thanks. Maybe some people should think more like him as in labels don't matter, you are either a good or bad person.
It's a real shame that he experienced police corruption when he was a good guy. I think this would make anyone distrust the system and get revenge by committing crimes.
Not everyone.
I love how all the old "business" guys are so polite. Really clever guy too
They're just a bit more honest with their bussiness strategies unlike big businesses, that's the only difference really
The guy killed people, he's not polite, just because he has etiquette 🙄
@@obi-wankenobi8446 polite as in well manered.
This interviewer is cold, scared and not good at her job.
Yeah right. Back in the days of the Lavender Hill mob, some poor bloke opens up a family run restaurant and this verminous "polite", "clever" "business" criminal bully, that produces or does, nothing useful to society - politely pays some local teen waster a few quid to put the windows in with bricks... until the hard working, law abiding community members in the family agree to hand over extortion money regularly. How glamorous and admirable /s 😡 The "politeness" is part of the ('so dangerous I can act like a gentleman much of the time') image, folk like that cultivate. Not so much these days. Note he blabbers the obligatory "Robin Hood & Godfather" tale when blowing his own little trumpet. Not interested in the weeks takings from your biscuit tin. Coz I'm really a hero. Just hand over free food forever, when me or any of my relations come. It all helps the local Godfather image shite.
"Forget religion, forget colour, forget sex. You're either a good person or a bad person" damn
Thank you for sharing your life.
Love the speech, the language, the accent. Brilliant.