Russell Brand & Ben Shapiro "Respectfully Disagreeing"
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Russell, you are an inspiration and a constant help to me and you habe been since about 10 years ago. I really struggle with trusting people, I've never met you, but I know beyond doubt you are a good person. I suffer with paranoia and its very difficult to trust. But I'm so glad you are here to listen to and you really.do help me xx
Excellent man. I am a Shapiro viewer and also find your show just as valuable. Like you said, I don't want to just talk with people I agree with and that is fantastic. You've come a long way and glad you learned how to battle your inner demons. Keep up the good show. You've earned it.
Good on you man. Total respect for daring to be different and having shapiro on. Takes balls these days to give a platform to people like him. I don't always agree with him but he's got some bloody good points.
Damn it's still premiering, 1031am pacific,.. you fucking nailed it Russell! Wow. Utopia is the only unattainable goal society can do worth suffering for. Struggle will have it's due, know the paths to heaven and hell.
Is it the 90's again? People with differing opinions tolerating each other. Fascinating.
lol yeah if only Shapiro was being honest
😂😂 right!?
@Manuel Mena i'm also curious about what he was dishonest about because i don't usually watch him
@Manuel Mena I watch him all the time. In what was he dishonest??? Your silence is deafening!! I'm not hearing you!!
Gone silent now that people have called ya out 😂
I am most flabbergasted by the fact that Russell Brand is taking notes. Imagine meeting someone you disagree with - an athiest, a Christian, a conservative, a liberal - and instead of slinging criticisms, you write down interesting/unknown unknowns that they say to further look into while listening thoughtfully. A bloody rarity in this day and age.
Yes and it's sad that it's a rarity. A wise person takes in knowledge from others rather than believing he knows it all. Proverbs 27:17 - "As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens his friend."
RB said he believes in god- So not quite atheist. But he sees where politics and cultures have been twisted into religion to cause suffering and control. Beautiful ❤️
Wow very well said sir....honestly who wants to have the same views as everyone else....isn't watching the superbowl more fun when your with friends who root for the other team? I mean cmon.....the party of peace and tolerance has turned into a discriminating intolerant machine....its so hypocritical...they begged us to except them....we did....now they are trying to shove all their disgusting views down our throats...and if we dont eat it up and say....thank u sir may I have another? We are targeted....Christianity is the new punk rock
Russell has really shown the way forward for everyone.
Are u sure he’s not writing quick responses?
Two human beings. Listening to each other. Asking honest questions. Giving honest answers. Enormous respect to both. Sad it is so rare.
This is the weirdest time line. People we are told are irrational, unreasonable, evil, etc., spend their time engaging in attempts to resolve issues through discussion, logic, philosophy, references to scholarship both recent and ancient, and similar, on "new" media. People we are told are good, kind, and honorable spend their time screeching on legacy network television.
@@DanEvens-tb1tg Perhaps it’s time to reassess who you look to for direction, maybe to place higher value on your own instincts and conclusions, to allow yourself the freedom to disagree with policies of groups with which you have traditionally been aligned. It’s not easy and it certainly takes courage, in less than tolerant circles it can even leave you isolated, but it is likely to lead to a greater feeling of honesty, integrity, enrichment and meaning in your life. Feelings of being at peace with yourself. Just my thoughts.
Why would sin separate you from god & how does it empower demons? Do all sins separate you from god equal 😅 like murder & stealing a cookies? What level of sin causes what level of separation? How can you be separated from god at all as well, how does that work? What are demons ? If Jesus was without sin why in Bible does devil & demons come to him to battle him the same as sinners? 😅 Answer questions like these could lead me to believe
@@skepticalthesensible Those are great questions. Most of which I am not able to offer a definitive answer, but I can definitely give a try! Q1: "Why would sin separate you from god?" in Isaiah 59, it discusses this exact point. Roman 2 as well. Both good reading that can help you understand better. But here is my take: sin has a consequence not only to you, but also to those around you. True Christianism is about love and loving is how you show to others that you are a true christian (a reflexion of god from you), by sinning, your reflection is not one that is Godly (as God has no sin) Q2: "how does it (sin) empower demons?" There are different approaches for this answer, here is one: after you sin, you often think about the consequences and often feel bad. That may sometimes create a cycle of bad/destructive behavior, which will often weaken you and makes demon's actions more effectively. Q3: "Do all sins separate you from god equal like murder & stealing a cookies? What level of sin causes what level of separation?" This is a hard one to understand, but some passages from the Bible seem to suggest that both of your examples create the same level of separation. Read James 2:10. The one exception seems to be the sins that lead to death (though my interpretation is that it is speaking of absence of god, that leads to death in the sense of no eternal life). Repenting and fixing the consequences of murder vs the cooking robbery are often what causes one to probably cause a big separation though. Q4: "What are demons ?" entities working on behalf of the enemy. these entities can be manifested in different way, but are often associated with a change in behavior of one individual or in increasing temptation towards sin for all of us. Q5: "If Jesus was without sin why in Bible does devil & demons come to him to battle him the same as sinners?" The enemy and demons are not tempting and attacking as a consequence of sin. Jesus was 100% God and 100% human (I know the math does not add up) and, just like all other humans, he was attacked. The separation of God makes you more likely to succumb to temptations because you need your own strength to do, and sometimes that is not enough. Although Jesus was tempted and attacked, he was able to sustain and be without sin because his human side, was very close to his Godly side. I have a very limited knowledge, but I still felt inclined to answer you. I'd be glad to continue the discussion in this or other forum if you'd like.
Word. I can barely get through a conversation with family members these days. I miss the times before the internet, when we walked outside to see and speak to our friends.
I really appreciate how each of them stopped talking and listened, before responding. It's so rare these days to actually have a conversation that doesn't have interruptions by someone who wants to ride vocally over another's point. I appreciate the class both these men showed through this conversation.
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Honestly, it's not rare. It's rare that you see it on this scale with this many people watching, but in the real world when 2 people are having a good faith conversation, and I CANNOT stress "Good Faith" enough here, it's how things should be. And frankly, how things used to be before everything was all about scoring political points for the onlookers all the time. When you have 2 people who are chiefly interested in communicating effectively with each other, this is what happens.
Why would sin separate you from god & how does it empower demons? Do all sins separate you from god equal 😅 like murder & stealing a cookies? What level of sin causes what level of separation? How can you be separated from god at all as well, how does that work? What are demons ? If Jesus was without sin why in Bible does devil & demons come to him to battle him the same as sinners? 😅 Answer questions like these could lead me to believe
@@skepticalthesensible I am not religious, but I have some possible answers for you. Obviously as flawed mortal beings we can't assume that we could fully and accurately articulate these answers. Sin separates you from god because it takes you off the path of good, by what amount is often differing depending on the severity, but there are certain sins that everyone can easily point to as evil and people moving away from that and towards what is most commonly referred to as good, is in theory moving towards some higher power, both for yourself and the people around you. This has touched on the empowering demons thing but it will make more sense to address that with the what are demons question. Hopefully the above kind of explains the 2nd/3rd questions. Demons are those things in you that are dark and evil. Some people like to think they don't exist in them, but anyone who's lived long enough will tell you that's naive. Everyone loses control sometimes, everyone looks back on some of their more questionable actions and think "who was that?" or "What was I thinking?" Everyone has the capacity to spiral with their personal demons and experiences with evil that can take them away from what could've been a much better path. So when we say someone is "influenced/possessed by demons" it's usually not indicating invisible creatures, but simplifying the complex influences that drive a person to do evil into one entity. I don't know the Bible well enough to understand the last question fully, but I'm sure it is some metaphor, perhaps Jesus was battling both the sinners, and their inner demons, perhaps the inner demons of all people including in himself. What made people think Jesus was divine in nature was that he never heeded his demons and instead had the ability to fight them, and spent his life trying to teach that ability to others. I don't know what belief you hope to have, but I hope this helps give you an additional lens to look at religion through that may open your mind up to it.
Usual interviewer: “I want to trap you and make your views look stupid” Russell: “I want to understand you because it’s interesting and we can learn something”
yea but you dont get anywhere respectfully disagreeing.
@@kaleb51 I respectfully disagree 😜
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@@kaleb51Finding common ground with someone who has an opposing viewpoint and actually listening to them, as Russell and Ben did here with one another, is getting somewhere though.
@@orangewedges I agree, it takes the competitive nature and tribal instict away. One of my best friends is pretty left leaning while I consider myself right leaning. We both watch Russel and we argue and discuss various topics alot but there is always a underlying respect and love for each other. Having someone you can respectfully talk to about differing beliefs has kept me from villainizing all left leaners. But he is like Russel so he has a good heart to begin with.
I love how Russell does not pretend to know what Thomistic or Maimonides means, and asks Shapiro to explain. But also you can see he immediately starts to take note. This is a man of culture.
I agree 👍and I never much cared for Mr Brand as an actor. Listening to him now has been extremely helpful for me to understand some of the complex issues.
Russell is also highly diplomatic around the centrist comment by Ben at the top of the interview when he reveals that BBC is not a news source for him. Wow. That was revealing in a sad way.
@@morningglorify I can’t really see why you’d think it’s revealing in a sad way that Ben, an American, doesn’t listen to the BBC, the *British* broadcasting corporation. It’s a UK national broadcasting corporation, why would Ben listen to it for news specific to America and American politics? It’s good for getting the gist of other peoples opinions, but the stories they’re covering are almost certainly things Ben has already heard of/read up on, so I’m not sure why he would rely on a different countries national broadcasting corporation 🤷🏼♂️
Yes. I love people like that. I have become more so this way the older I get. You just of become okay with and aware of how much you don’t know. 😂
For sure,this is a great meeting,also a very good business strategy to meet.
Ben Shapiro admitting he was outclassed in an interview, Russell Brand asking pertinent and interesting questions, and both listening intently is absolutely amazing, and this should be used as a model for interviews and discussions!!
And as you watch the interview, when Ben is talking Russell is taking notes. When you talk about Russell asking pertinent questions it comes down to his process where he notes things down so he can refer to the notes when formulating questions. It's a highly professional and respectful way of interviewing because it means that he's paying attention.
This discussion was a very pleasant surprise.
Why would sin separate you from god & how does it empower demons? Do all sins separate you from god equal 😅 like murder & stealing a cookies? What level of sin causes what level of separation? How can you be separated from god at all as well, how does that work? What are demons ? If Jesus was without sin why in Bible does devil & demons come to him to battle him the same as sinners? 😅 Answer questions like these could lead me to believe
@@skepticalthesensible not religious but from my perspective, I've learned that Sin is just temptation. The freedom of choice was given so that you can be tempted, tried, and walk thru the fire or succumb to it. The 7 Sins work thru people, your best friend could be possessed by a sin and they may tempt you to follow them. Jesus was special because no matter what temptations were given, he stayed true to himself. I don't think you should follow anyone else's particular beliefs. You should create your own beliefs and let the experience of life edit and revise your beliefs. Don't let a mortal person or an invisible diety define you. Just a perspective, not advice
Romans 8 says that nothing separates us from God. That includes sin. The saying of sin separating is from God is a buss statement that was null in void after the death of Jesus who covered all sin for those who believe on him. These are totally questions that Christian’s who have believed for years still ask. I think they are great questions.
Positive conversation...positive comment section...this needs to be mainstream. The tone, respect, and intellect here needs to be emulated by our media outlets. This is huge, this needs to spread.
It isn't possible if ppl only focus and categorize based on skin color
Amen
@@riobrasilsambashowssambist1453 what has that got to do with this comment?
POTUS TRUMP WILL WIN AGAIN BECAUSE WE THE PEOPLE OF THE USA ARE WITH HIM 1000% BECAUSE HE IS THE ONLY PERSON WHO IS FIGHT FOR OUR FREEDOM FROM THE CORRUPT DEMOCRATS AND RINOS WHO HAVE PROVEN OVER AND OVER THEY ARE SELLING US OUT TO THE GLOBALIST CARTELS 🙏🇺🇸🙏
@@riobrasilsambashowssambist1453 Or any of the other pigeon-holes.
Russell Brand is a better interviewer than most professional journalists.
Wonder if it has to do anything with his genuine curiosity and interest in his guests’ ideas?
Because he listens.
We need a Russell and Joe Show
i think allowing eachother time to fully unpack and present their points of view is critical - journos always seem so rushed, its almost impossible to get any depth or respect for the exchange of ideas
I believe most of this is Mr. Brand's actual interest in his interview.
When Brand asked Shapiro for clarification and then took physical notes, my whole perception of Brand changed. I respect the hell out of this kind of honesty and humility.
I think that both men suffer from a media that endlessly parades small parts of their thoughts and utterances, seemingly in pursuit of forwarding one political aim or another. I think these two should make this a regular happening. We could all gain something from it.
It is a great tool for people with ADHD!
Oh I watched him fiddling around with his pain I don't think he was writing anything down he was struggling to keep up with what Ben Shapiro was saying
@@deathmetalrob5563 I believe he was taking notes of the philosophers Ben mentioned at that moment. Perhaps to give their philosophies a read to better educate himself in something he realizes he lacks knowledge on. Later he might just be crossing out points he wanted to bring up in their discussion.
The way they are completely silent and clearly listening to each other so they can both make their points and counterpoints at times is wonderfully refreshing.
This is what Russell is promoting! Two side debating and learning from each other and in the end both sides come out respecting each other and maybe changing their view of life. This is a master class of how a debate should be handled. Total respect to you both🙏🙏🙏
Thanks for viewing and contributing I'll share some beneficial knowledge let's converse right away with the above 📞
Or they’re just cowards
This is the only way we actually move forward. The thing is the two sides of the isle keep us looking at each other as the problems. Nobody wants to actually listen to the other side
Ladies and gentlemen, this is how you have a conversation. We have become so disconnected to each other that we can't have conversations like this.
You guys are making mainstream media obsolete. This is so refreshing and gives me hope for humanity. Thank you!!!
Let's PRAY that they make MSM obsolete!! Who WATCHES THAT CRAP???
If you leave off the part where all these independent commentators rely on news they get from the mainstream media, sure. All they do is comment, not report news.
@@johnc3525 the live streamers like Andy Ngo post current news/happenings most msm doesn't cover. Channels like Project Veritas do investigative journalism. Channels like Russell's discuss current events. They all have a part to play.
@@timeforchange3786 Project Veritas is fake news. Like I said, Russel merely comments on news he obtained from the "mainstream media". Never heard of Andy Ngo. So Andy Ngo has reporters placed around the country and the globe? He has connections at the WH, wall street etc to report news?
@@johnc3525 Andy does have several streamers who work for him but you are missing the point. I said live streamers like him. Usually, streamers go where things are taking place. For example, right now there are streamers in Canada covering the truckers. Showing what msm will not show.
Russell sir... As a conservative man, I can't explain how much I respect you for your approach to conversation. THIS is what is missing in our world right now. Real, and respectful debate. Thank you sir, and I appreciate you.
And as someone who is not particularly conservative, I completely agree. Everyone fights where there are conversations to be had and knowledge to be gained. Too much intolerance in the world.
real debate? tell that to shapiro
@@lewis0705 debate: a formal discussion on a particular topic in a public meeting or legislative assembly, in which opposing arguments are put forward. What am I missing? Or does Ben's intense nature come off attacking to you? That's how Ben is. He talks fast and speaks directly. Usually people are yelling at him and mad so this civil discourse was nice.
@@firemandadffd3217 you ended him with a simple definition lmfao!
I agree!
I honestly can't believe how much better I feel having seen these two fabulous men converse. I feel so reassured.
Thanks for watching 🙏 Hit me up 👆 let's converse ⬆️
Ben Shapiro -- fabulous? lol
In what way is squeaky little Ben fabulous?
@@qaipak1isn’t it crazy that people can have their own opinions ? Jeeze just let them be.
Ben claims he wants to live a life of being left alone. Then why don't Ben leave other people alone?
I absolutely love when two articulate geniuses get together for a respectful conversation or disagreement.
Why would sin separate you from god & how does it empower demons? Do all sins separate you from god equal 😅 like murder & stealing a cookies? What level of sin causes what level of separation? How can you be separated from god at all as well, how does that work? What are demons ? If Jesus was without sin why in Bible does devil & demons come to him to battle him the same as sinners? 😅 Answer questions like these could lead me to believe
@@skepticalthesensible - Believe blindly and God will answer your questions in ways you never imagined. God gave you life and free will, do with it as you wish.
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I'm glad you acknowledged that they are geniuses! I'm going to have to watch a 2nd time and look a lot of words up!! 😂 It is such a refreshing interview. I have some hope for the world now. Thank you and God Bless you both!🙏❤🙏
New title : Russell and Ben DESTROY being confrontational with respect and manners.
Ha. Nice. I'm getting so sick of everyone on KZhead being DESTROYED and HUMILIATED and EVISCERATED...
@@jeffreytucker905 I know right?! This SHOCKED me…after this interview I was left SPEECHLESS!
New title.. Conversation goes nowhere and Mr Shapiro has learned what people say when he call people unfounded names.
Shapiro’s belief system and modus operandi are functionally disrespectful and demeaning to his own species. He is a charismatic and conniving bigot.
@@MegatronYES How? The only one throwing personal insults around is you in your comment?
I'm a conservative but over the last couple of months I've become a big fan of Russell Brand. I don't care how much I agree with him, he's intellectually honest, thoughtful, and considerate. I imagine the civil debates that Brand can engage in were what the founding fathers had in mind.
Good for you Mike. The most balanced people I’ve known explore the other side. I’ve moved more center as a result of dialogues like this.
I enjoyed the conversation too, and I imagine a lot of the forefathers spoke this way. I'm also aware, though, that some of the forefathers used to beat the crud out of each other with canes too. (This is not to say I dislike the forefathers).
@@a.lynnferguson6089 the cane beating happened a couple of generations after the forefathers. The founders were more into dueling.
@@PsychoMike21000 ahh my mistake! Good to know
@@josephfinds Smart guy. Usually a sign of intelligence to not be so extreme imo. Intelligent people understand different perspectives and remain open minded.
It is refreshing to listen to 2 adults having a conversation without talking over each other and slagging each other off. I enjoyed this
I never knew before now that Russell Brand is an absolute GEM! Thank you for being a thoughtful, respectful human being who is willing to talk about hard issues in a respectful human way. We can disagree while still acknowledging each other’s humanity and while not assuming the worst in one another. Bravo!!
Amazing that two people with differing points of view can openly chat and have a discussion. It's so refreshing. Love Russell brand
He wasn`t always a gem . He and Johnathen Ross had a radio show and they called (on air) Andrew Sachs (from Faulty Towers) and took the piss about Andrew`s granddaughter who had a bad drug problem and had turned to prostitution . How heartless was that ! Nothing funny about that at all but went for cheap dirty humor . How hurt Andrew a the grandfather would have been . Now Russel seems a changed man and I do like him as he is today but that story always sticks in my mind .
Wow
I love how Russell takes notes...he's always learning and evolving, even if he's not entirely in agreement, he has an open mind to everything. So much respect for this guy.
Yes. Very impressive guy.
Yes very impressive
@МrBеаst Ехtrа go away scammer. Get a job
I can’t believe he hosted a guy who’s a joke in his podcast.
@@YallaMiami what do you mean?? I found the interview very interesting
I've gained deep respect for Russell Brand after this interview. He's subdued, respectful, intelligent, thoughtful, genuinely curious and likable.
but he sure didn't treat Candice Owens the same way.. this just proves that Russell is a liberal, sexist, misogynist, beta male.. he treated Candice with such disrespect but in Candice's defense, she kicked the crap out of Russell in their debate, it was the best bitch slapping I've ever seen in a debate..
He’s awesome
It's awesome to see. I'm never against any celebrity's expressing their opinions they just have to be open to discussion. Or have logic behind their opinions.
You waking up? 😊😁
What about respect for Ben Shapiro?
This is how a conversation should take place. Love the information , both views and respect. ❤
Can you imagine what a productive and accomplished society we would have if more people were able to have discussions like this? To me this is what progress looks like. Listening to this conversation has enlightened me and increased my vocabulary. I am glad I just subscribed to this channel and ended my night with this video. Such a great conversation.
Exactly. So many people want to disagree by hurling insults
From the UK, we learned about the amazing debates Abraham Lincoln had with Stephen Douglas, literally on a stage. I feel like this ^ is how they conducted those debates. Listening to one another, using patience and not agreeing on anything but giving each other the space to say their piece. So cool
Join the conversation. Just talk.
@@dominicgalloway4481 They literally are not SMART enough discern or think critically.
@@moniqueengleman873 Exactly. All they know how to do is escalate situations and throw temper tantrums. The ones who have any sense are brainwashed. It's like they're possessed.
This is an absolute and total joy to watch a rational, intellectual and interesting conversation between two individuals that share some commonalities and also differences. It’s refreshing and fills my heart with joy. Discussions will change the world. Loved it. Thank you. The feeling behind this interview was so light and respectful. Ahhh.
Hear hear! 👍
Shapiro is not an intellectual. Thats honestly laughable
@@gunslingerSlade I agree.
@@gunslingerSlade strange username though
@Defenestrate and? He constantly gets destroyed by actual intellectuals and he only does well with unprepared college leftist....look how he handled the BBC interview
I literally clicked on this only to remember what "respectful disagreeing" actually looks like. Well done.
Me too sadly
Precisely, people need to learn from this.
Its very refreshing
It’s a lost art, having a conversation with someone who doesn’t hold ALL the same ideas with you without the insults and name calling like little kids. “You’re stupid”🙄. Very sad, because then you get division we’re seeing now.
@@mangot589 I wouldn’t say lost art. I’d say it’s still alive and well today. We’re all just tuned in to an old form of technology. That being television which unfortunately has some for influence in most debates and the rules in how they are performed. I think it’s up to us as the consumers to prove to everyone that civil discourse is still possible today. Have a good mango T.
This was an absolutely fascinating listen. I have mad respect for Ben but after this I have also gained the same respect for Russell. Highly intellectual and loved how two grown men can sit and have a discussion without turning it into a bloodbath. This is what I do so desperately miss about today’s society.
An excellent example of how all discussions and debates should be conducted. Hats off Russell and Ben. Thank you.
Or they’re just cowards
@@ferise1 do you think they are being cowards in this conversation?
@ferise1 hahah, legend. Would refusing to agree on the things you have in common be brave then? I'm interested to know what you usually disagree with? Have you got into a fist fight over being called by your own name?
Russell's patience in allowing Ben to finish speaking is very admirable. Listening to the whole thought before spouting off your thoughts is very tough. Great conversation.
Yeah. Shows you he is actually listening
Shows that he's grown as a person, people never used to get a word in edgeways.
It’s nice. I love him for it. One thing is for sure though, Ben rarely does.
You kidding me? Maybe not when debating someone hostile but with Russell, both parties were respectful of their 3-5 minute responses and questions.
@@kay-collins I found them both to be extremely respectful. Brand has really grown as a person. I no longer think of him as a bafoon. Perhaps he never was. In either case, he’s thoughtful in his questions and responses.
This right here. Even if we still end up disagreeing after a discussion, the moment you listen to my arguments, youve already earned my respect.
Few people are willing to do this often
Facts. I just want to hear and be heard with respect governing the whole conversation. This really is great to watch. I agree and disagree with both of them on different issues. They both make me use my critical thinking skills and I love listening to both their shows. Civil, respectful dialog is what will move us forward in the political realm.
Factss
When people get their "facts" from Twitter and TikTok, they're probably not going to listen to anything that doesn't line up 100% with their feelings.
Amen the ability to express our differences and then have open and honest debate and when the need or occasion arises a fair vote on how the majority views the issue and then make laws accordingly. It is government by the people and for the people. Special interest and lobbyist. Cause issues and force one opinion. Minority Idea over majority rule. It is creating our current climate.
I have new hope for this world after watching this. I wish everyone could speak with each other in this manner. Thank you both for proving that human beings CAN be respectful even when you don’t agree with each other!!
My thoughts exactly. I’m choked up even .💜
Hard to believe its been a year since this aired. I truly harbor great respect for these two gentlemen.
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What a breath of fresh air! Listening to 2 people who know their minds, are articulate, and respectful. No one talked over the top of the other, and they reflected on what was said. Well done, gentlemen!
Yes, well said with great points! Thank you for sharing
Impressed. Forgot what that looked like.
Both of them are serious about how to live a good life, and engage in actual intellectual work in that direction. This also makes this conversation interesting.
Well said.
Absolutely, this is how humans need to start talking to each other, now where's my magic wand, I'll just wave it a little. Nope didnt work, I guess it's up to you me and everyone else to realise talking not yelling is the only way we are gonna make this world a better place.
Russell doesn’t know this but he makes everyone’s day better
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No it is SUAT who does that.
Most of the best teachers seem to be oblivious to their own teaching. They don’t want to be teachers, they simple are.
He does, actually
He definitely has gotten much better since he went sober.
I agree with most of the others here about your conversation being so well done as far as being so polite and respectful to one another throughout the entirety . It is awesome you both are allowing each side to have their full turn to talk & finish talking until each next point is made , never interrupting one another. So, yes, its absolutely beautiful and a wonderful experience. The content is amazingly very relevant to many of us. Thank you both so much. Yes a very honest conversation indeed, a great success!
What a great way to start a conversation by discussing you’re shared beliefs and thoughts. I very much enjoy both these men’s minds. I disagree with Ben on a lot of topics but listen to him through the week. Russel keeps me sane in this world of gas lighting behind everything. Thanks gents. Great talk.
This is how we save the world. Not debating. Talking to one another.
Well, that AND shooting the people who refuse to do either ; )
@@constantlycorrect8550 Genociding whites? How exactly? Feel free to go into detail.
It is a debate/discussion
Well Russell wasn't really talking to him as in both putting across their feelings and thoughts, he was mostly just asking Ben what he thought
No, we don't save the world with talk. We realize that humans are destroying the world with industrialization and overpopulation. Had it been possible, my worldwide answer to Covid-19 would have been, "Let nature take her course." Although, the shutdowns had some interesting results.
I love how Russell asks a question, and then let's the person answer with no interruptions. And he takes notes to research later. He is actually having a conversation, realizing he may learn something from Ben. As well as asking Ben personally reflective questions.
A wonderful take, good sir.
I think the notes are to remember a question so he doesn't need to interrupt 🤔..but I could be wrong...✌🏼💚
@@urbanfarmerurbangenohunter477 that's exactly what they are for. And, when hears a concept, to research later.
It's what we use to call an interview.
Russell is great at having conversations as opposed to journalist who push a narrative and force the guest to follow suite.
I enjoyed this so much. It's so refreshing to see two intelligent men, discussing such pertinent current issues, without interruption and judgement. I've learnt so much from this, I'm going to watch it again lol. So clearly explained, even for those who haven't studied Philosophy and Religion. When I watch it again, I'll be taking notes. In fact, the more I think about it, this should be shown in schools before the future of our children is damaged beyond repair. This is the best discussion I have ever watched !!! Very impressive rhetoric Russell and Ben!!! I actually feel lighter and more focused in the present, and dare I say it slightly more optimistic about the future.
I agree with you completely. I too feel more positive about our future.
Beautiful and inspiring display of two great men trying to *communicate* =understand and be understood. So good to see. More of this conversation please! I love you both!
Russell seeks to understand. No dogma, no posturing, no virtue-signaling and no "gotcha moments." A true discussion among thoughtful citizens.
Very well said 👏👏💯
No "gotcha moments," exactly - that's why I love him, he's so open and genuine... that is (sadly) So Rare!
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this conversations really shows there are good values and genuine intentions on both sides of political aisles. it is almost a shame they didn't try to disagree more / challenge each others on actual policies... but what a relief these days to see two guys not obsessed with demeaning the counterpart or polarizing everything.
It was very interesting to watch each of them actively listen to the other, and then actually address the points that the other made.
Russel’s ability to verbalize his thoughts through vocabulary is amazing
He talk good.
@@tomyoxon5901 word
Amazing as in tangent after tangent interrupted by incomplete thoughts? It’s like Ben is genius and Russell just rambled until a question appears. A lot of the time, it just was annoying. Ben’s responses were clear and concise even though he talks a million miles an hour.
"verbalise through vocabulary" How profound.
@@BeforeThisNovember My bad, you’re saying the exact same thing. Verbalize: “speak, especially at excessive length and with little real content”
I love that your willing to talk with other great minds whether they agree with you or not. And you keep finding some of my favourites. I think we all want truth. We are sick of shallow. We need to get down to what is real and important and we know that self love and self fulfilment is not enough. There is more meaning to life. Great that you are shining the light on this.
This discussion is an absolute role model of how to have a polite, respectful conversation about differing ideas! Thank you for both the content of the discussion and the great example you set!! ❤
I love how no matter how much Russell disagrees he tries to find something he can find common ground on with the person. Great human.
If the presidential debates sounded like this, I would actually want to listen. Imagine if congress had respectful conversations where they listened to opposing options and looked for common ground.
That’s how it was intended to be, and certainly how it used to be. But I feel those days are long gone as the democrats literally leave the floor when republicans speak.
That would be how an honest society functions, not the USA.
Agreed. Presidential debates are so cringe that I can't stand to watch.
@@73ns what country does then?
@@lindaover9764 I'm Norwegian, it's pretty good, parties working together instead of against each other isn't that much to ask as a civilized country in 2021.
I love the way Russell strings his words together. So eloquent and articulate; I could listen to him talk about anything! Truly an exceptional gift ❤️
It helps being British!
I, actually, tear up while watching this because I just don’t understand why it seems to be so hard for people to have discussions like this, when it’s just this easy.. I absolutely LOVE Russell Brand, even though I tend to agree with Ben, more, on certain subjects. I think that they’re both wonderful, intelligent, and interesting, humans. I wish people could converse like this more often.
“Russell Brand and Ben Shapiro respectfully disagree.” Half of the world: “ is that a thing?”
The other half: that’s not real!
Two of my favorite people😉
People not on Twitter: nothing out of the ordinary here.
Far left cultist: It wasn’t reported on CNN, MSNBC or The Washington Post so it must be some stupid conspiracy theory
Russell is definitely not left. I'd call him more right of center. That's why they can have a reasonable conversation
"Everyone will need a conscious plan around tech or risk having their consciousness blended with the dominant agenda". That's a great quote, Russell!
Smart phones are specifically created to addict people via platforms like social media by groups of people known as attention engineers, every time we log on, its like pulling the handle of a fruit machine looking for that win, the attention engineers call this a "dopamine feedback loop" the real evil is that the tech giants know the harm its causing society and they dont care, the biggest business is now your conscious attention, so they can sell ads harvest your data, shape political landscapes, also manipulate minds and views by pushing specific information and suppressing another, Imo we are in a information revolution, and the fallout or acidity is now palpable for us all to recognize 🙏🏼
@@paulmuaddib3470nailed it.
meaningless technophobia and vague twaddle
@Jackson Lewis yup
@Jackson Lewis psst: idiocracy fronts eugenics. Nazis pushed eugenics. it was like they big thing. It's not that good a movie. the ouch my balls stuff is fun, but wake up, you aren't on the boss level yet.
This is one of the best discussions I've ever encountered. ❤️ It speaks of truths hidden deap and lost in our modern worlds everyday life. It's both empowering and humbling at the same time. Deap introspection is an art that has been lacking for me lately. So, thank you both for bringing it into remembrance.
I learned so much listening to you both. I appreciate you starting out the conversation by showing genuine interest in allowing Ben to share a bit of what makes Ben himself and sharing commonalities between you both. That helped break down barriers to then dive into deeper, perhaps more abrasive and disagreeable topics without creating an environment of hostility, but one of perspective and open-mindedness. Great job Russell.
Russel Brand has really grown on me over the years. Found him very annoying at first and now I hold him in a high regard for his well spokenness and unique perspective.
It's his well spokeness really
Every single video has this same comment.
Facts
It's because he's sober
I agree
I truly admire the way that Russell is able to treat people with respect.
@AmericanWorkers First Russel defended the dumpster fire which was CHAZ. Both have their flaws
Ben does not deserve respect
@AmericanWorkers First yeah as most people working in the media (even the subcultural one) gots to appease the extremely excepionalist tribe to have his cheques signed.
Get you, but I like to see it as normal
@AmericanWorkers First Ethnic cleansing? But that's literally, like, transferring. Omg. Man, that was a dumb arguement.
The amount of intelligence and respect in this conversation is gorgeous and testament to maturity and educated debate/discussion.
I'm using my first youtube comment to say that I'm blown away by the quality of this conversation, and it gives me hope that we don't have to be relegated to entrenched, polarized positions, from which to lob robotic, clichéd insults via drive-by soundbites. It makes me proud to be a human to hear these two talk. I wish that these two, or the thousands of others like them, but who get no air time, filled the seats of our legislatures.
"Respectfully disagreeing" is an achievement already these days. Cheers.
@Zangief ☭ yesssss
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What I love about Russel is he is an intellectual disguised as a messenger we can all understand and relate to.
@AmericanWorkers First truth
@AmericanWorkers First i was cheering the statement in general, as a good thing - *i did not even watch the video*, so i am sure you're points may be quite valid. Accuse me whatever you want, in regard to the content, my remark was "out of context". Me approving a general statement is still legit and no wrongdoing. ( i see your point of course) Note to myself Next time add disclaimer " this is a limited statement, as i hardly watched the video, it only applies to the afore mentioned statement" p.s. Actually i did watch like 3 minutes, but was bored. The way i use video is entirely my own, what i express myself about also.
Respect to Russell for turning his life around, being very honest, engaging and funny. Very interesting topics.
Respect to Russell to living his life to the fullest and most of all love he shares with humanity ....if only they could hear There is hearing and hearing the word ! And this is pribably his expertise everything leads to the yellow brick rd ! Always! Eventually ! Esp if you have strong "will"which im sure that is commendable! observing Russell expand and grow exponentionally is very motivating
giving people respect especially if they have not turned their life around helps people to turn their lives around ... shame ... its the great motivator and destroyer
@@truthnotwar ofcourse, and it will happen. Never stop believing is what comes to mind. 👍🌝😃
I wish, in my wildest dreams, that my brain processed information as quickly, as these two. I applaud Russ for taking such care in his words. It feels like a nod of respect. Both of these intellects could fly off the handle and make the pace, intense. Instead we are left with a truly healthy conversation. Well done gents👊🏼
I admire you mr. Russel Whenever I find myself get heated in discussion I remember how great you conduct yourself and that is what lets me keep calm and be a better human than I would be otherwise
I’m a so called “conservative” even though I’m more of a libertarian but have come to find Russell brand a legend as of late. He can actually have a discussion with someone he disagrees with which is rare these days
He’s bloody brilliant.
@Texas Tom yeah I didn’t agree with him on Brexit and a few years ago he acted like an arrogant idiot but he’s obviously rethought the way he wants to conduct himself and now actually tries to understand other peoples point of view which is good. I also try to do the same but it’s rare on both sides tbh
Brand is a true scholar. Shapiro is also, tho slightly more biased, imo
I think this is just right at the beginning of Russel growing out of the teenage rebellion communist phase he - like so many 90's teenagers - fell into. He is great now. He was always smart, good hearted funny guy. He just used to be blinded by leftism and all the sanctimonious righteousness and idiocy that goes with it.
I forwarded this interview (both parts) to my mother and father, both of whom are in their 70's. It was nice to see a couple of gentlemen who don't quite see eye-to-eye discuss things politely and with respect to each other. I imagine these guys get along quite well outside of the scope of a debate.
It’s sad when we’re in a world when we are happy to see two people actually have a a conversation and seem to respect each other if they don’t agree on certain topics
it's a sad world when we have to ''respectfully disagree'' with people who have genocidal ideologies. These white supremacists/colonizers literally out here killing CHILDREN, your generation who's afraid of confrontation are really just afraid of real solutions.
@@profaneinthemembrane6301 may I ask who your referring to as having genocidal ideologies
@@housebased7 Good question, Lord.
What? That's exactly the world we should be living in. That's not sad at all. It's sad when people aren't happy to see two people disagreeing respectfully.
@@danm2084 you took what he said and threw it out the window. The main point was just that there are some ideologies and shit that people are unable to “respectfully disagree” with because they’re something that should not be tolerated. I’m not sure if Shapiro is that ideology (even though he is an awful piece of grifting shit), but that’s the guys point
This is my second time listening to this podcast. It is so interesting seeing how things came to be. Love Russel’s and Ben’s willingness to talk freely.
What a great example of how an interview should take place. With respect, curiosity, and with the other able to truly listen and answer without being interrupted or poked fun at.
I learned so much from this. This is a great example of critical thought.
Russell was writing the names down that's all
So impressed with their ability to listen to each other without interupting.
I was impressed with this as well. Very rare to see this now days.
That’s bc they respect each other. People who constantly interrupt someone don’t respect the other person
Would never happen on JOB. Lol
@@BigGov74 Both Heavyweights?
@@thetruth9210 thats why he has the headphones on. With headphones on you can easily monitor speaking over the other person.
“Either everyone is talking about you and you think you’re the center of the universe or no one is and you think you’re cast out in some way and neither is good” that was powerful
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Se la ve, my friend
everyone is the center of the/their universe never doubt that you don't exist
@zero viscouslove I couldn't even read that word vomit. Grammar is non existent
@@andycopland3179 At least some punctuation would be nice, sheesh😂
Russell you have the unique ability to put not only your guests but your audience at ease. Oftentimes when I watch political conversations it is stressful and cause a range of emotions from frustration to anger. Your interview style removes that tension and makes the guest feel assured that they are valued and will be heard. The affect on your audience is that we are able to listen and really hear both sides. It’s a textbook for others to follow.
Wow going to follow through on the remainder of this dialog. As an older listener with a high school level education - it was amazing to listen to both you and Mr Shapiro joining in an intellectual sharing of ideals in an adult fashion. I was drawn in almost from the opening of this podcast.
27 minutes in. The way they each admitted flaws in their own ideological “groups”. Respectable. The pinnacle of constructive conversation.
I dont buy Shapiros admission though. Hes playing a role here.
@@hutchison3379 what role
@@michaeldehoyos6185 The agreeable conservative. Despite what hes said here, he's made it clear in his career that he's not actually interested in genuine discussions with those he opposes. He's playing here for ratings.
@@hutchison3379 hmm 🤔
@@hutchison3379 Why? Ben has gotten people on the opposing side on his podcast and he's a very quiet interviewer. He has also changed his mind in regards to the war on drugs. Just because he doesn't fit into an echo chamber doesn't mean he's incapable of changing. Maybe you should change?
The worst part about this: not enough people will see it. And even fewer will follow its example.
400,000 views though 😊
@@RachelASmith1990 each one helps 👍
700K view on Ben's channel
The example starts with us :)
Over 400k views on Russell's channel and over 700 views on Ben's channel, not counting podcasts, in just over a week. I wouldn't call that 'just a few'
Grateful to have found this. Would love to see the two of you converse again, now approx 18 months later...
The world needs more people willing to engage in discussion like this. Only through open and respectful dialogue will we be able to address issues of true importance.
And who is going to empty the bins and put food on the shelves I bet they have never ever did a days work in their life like most Treehuggers
There are millions of people like this. The problem is most of them already agree with each other, so they don't debate.
The fact that people love these guys because they are respectfully disagreeing with each other should be saddest thing about it.. it should be the normal way people talk to each other and not something special or novel..
Well intelligence is special and novel... megareetardism is all too common
It’s sad but very true!
@@Wildboy789789 come on, be civil now...
You’ll notice this if you ever argue politics in KZhead comment threads. Everyone always tries to prove some malevolent intent in you even though you just have an opinion. Although, jokes on me for ever bothering engaging in politics in KZhead comments lol.
My only advice for anyone fighting the culture war on the internet, no matter where you lie, be kind and assume good intent in those who disagree with you. Also understand that the intelligent people can always disagree and nobody’s stupid for not being just like me or anybody. If someone is unjust and malevolent they’ll expose themselves through dialogue eventually.
What a treat to have these two gentlemen in free-form conversation and went where the vibrations took them ,love the episode it was inspiring to say the least 👏
The positive comments arising from this discussion says it all. This is mainstream media redefined. Well nailed out. Thanks so much to everyone who played a part in making this happen.
I am frankly amazed at how much I enjoy Russell's interviews. He asks thoughtful questions, listens carefully to the answers, follows up, lets his guests speak without contrarian interruption. So here I am, day after day, checking out what he has to say. Thankful.
Good to see! He's a good lad is Russell.
Agreed 100%. I thought Russell was a narcissistic SOB, just a year ago. I was so wrong. One of my favorite public figures to listen to now. He’s very soothing for the soul when he’s speaking. His ability to show interest and ask pertinent questions, is just delightful. Even greater, is that it doesn’t feel like it’s fake.
Oh and I’m also very conservative. So this crossover has me almost giddy with excitement.
Did anybody see Ben Shapiro eyes change from 6:35 - 6:46. Put it in slow motion 0.25. They seem to change shape and color. I never thought reptile humans were real until I saw this into the video. Tell me what you guys think
@@thefreshjc1286 Reptilians hate TV. Must make them nervous 😁
If only our politicians were as professional, intelligent, passionate, and well versed.
I wish that too, Remington. I feel our current political system doesn't allow them to be, unfortunately. Which is why we are all watching youtube videos of thoughtful and respectful dialogue
We will never have people like this as our president. They are chosen by Illuminati and ivy league university years before a presidency every happens. Donald Trump appears to be the only one that manage to get the presidency without Illuminati approval...
That's the question I have: Why those human being dont become politicans? - buffles me every time instead we got those brainless corrupted puppets. This might some error in the matrix.
And Compassionate...
no shit huh?
Just loved this exchange, its so refreshing to see people sharing and learning from one another so honestly and respectfully.
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I literally love and respect the timing of these gentlemen's interactions. They don't talk over one another, they take pause, respect one another while they expound upon their positions!! Bravo!! Thank you, Russell and Ben!!!
I applaud Russell for this interview and others like it. The ability to disagree but still hold a respectful dialogue is a dying art.
Why are you lot so sure he disagrees?
@@Heopful because he says it no?
@@Heopful in the title
if it is dying then we need to find a way to heal it back to health
It’s not a art. It’s what the government is supposed to be doing… it’s a way of living it’s THE way of living
Holy crap. This is the first example of a true respectful conversation between differing opinions I've seen in a long time. Love how you both started with finding common ground, acknowledging each others knowledge and bridges that unite...and then going into beliefs that have differences. You both respectfully listened and paid attention to each other, no interrupting each other, no mud slinging, no identity politics...just conversation. This was fantastic. I learned from this from both sides.
John 15: 13 (no peace💘)
Totally agree.
Same first time I've heard someone debate Ben who managed to raise good points that i think should be delved into more.
Great conversation! Love the way you take notes and show genuine interest in what others have to say. I imagine you are constantly learning and growing on this journey. Thanks for sharing the experience. ❤️
This is one of the smartest, most intuitive conversations I've bothered to listen to, I wish I'd seen this a year ago. Go Ben go! Ty Russell God bless you both xo
An honest, intellectual conversation and debate between two human beings. No screaming, No ego, No Drama. Who would of thought? Thank you gentlemen.
I honestly don’t see the big deal. A lot of really good debtors can keep calm. These are just two famous people
You need to visit Bens podcast to listen how he changes his tone . And goes on rants no much different than glen Beck
@Nomad Monad what is civil to you . ? To on front of a podcast camera ? And hear only what you want to hear . And call it honest , when Russel is afraid to get this child upset . Perhaps because we seen him acting before . And you consider this a fair debate ? Means either you are on denial or you have been sitting on the chair and benefits honor to you by colonialism . Sir Monad Nomad . I believe perhaps we had an interesting exchange of points. My dear . Would you forgive me . Is time for my tea. !
Adults being adults. This is not ok
@@randysavage1 Russel Holding back , So the baby don’t cry , just so the baby don’t cry. Or the start his tent rum . Shhhhh Russel don’t make the baby cry !!!
Russell Brand has become one of my favourite persons. Funny and philosophical. Love you brother, make the world a better place.
Fully agree, amazing person helping people see the bigger picture
Ditto
Ditto
Gosh! Fantastic! I have never used fb, twitter etc thank goodness! And for the last 3 weeks, I have barley used my mobile phone nor looked on the internet and yes, it very liberating. Much love, light and respect to you ❤
I really go back and fourth with Ben Shapiro and honestly, my first reaction before watching this was “why have this guy on”, but you know what, thank you, that was really enlightening. I really enjoyed that. Thank you Russell, Thank you Ben, you both never fail to get me thinking.
The best interview I have had the honor to hear. ❤️
Ditto
Thank you for having the patience and fortitude to dig down far enough to have a meaningful exchange of thought and reason. It was so refreshing and hopeful.
This is a beautiful example of how to just talk to people even if you disagree. ❤️ Great work Russell and Ben.
I’m rapt. So civilised and of course these two do share important values and have the power of empathy…something truly lacking these days.
we live in fundamentally far right times and the far right controls all politival discourse. Its not some universal lack of civility, its literally just the state of rightwing discourse since Ferguson in 2014, when the right decided that BLM was literally satan, and launched a pro police culture war in opposition
@@naturesquad9174 BLM is a racist organisation. That’s it.
@@naturesquad9174 Wrong. Then how is Trump ban in many of this giant big Tech media like FB and Twitter. The majority of New media are negative towards Trump and his support. In a survey majority of university professor describe themselve as Democrats. If the right control the majority Trump would have win the election again. Stop with the lies and stop trying to blame everything on the right when it's the Democrats that fail this country under Obama for 8 years of leadership
Can't get over how well Russel words his questions, always so respectful. Great interaction, great interview.
Russell is incredibly calm and articulate, but there is room for more reading, he doesn't usually source his views.
Love how he's writing down things to look at in the future... Care where this is going.❤️
Never would of guessed him to be so well spoken.
I can't believe Mr. Brand has come from a "Hollywood" entertainer background! Mr. Brand ALONE is restoring my faith (well erasing some my cynicism anyway) of entertainers being just that...Entertainers. Especially today when its been practically mandatory for so many entertainers to hop on what I personally call the "Ivory-Tower-Limousine-Commie- Train", and spout off Marxist/Pinko/hyper-politically correct rhetoric like Jane Fonda in Hanoi on steroids. Despite Mr. Brands casual attire and appearance to the point of almost looking like a used record store punk, he is someone to take seriously as an intellect. I currently take it as a source of pride being one of his subscribers. (And of course, Mr. Shapiro....JESUS! What a "UFC fighter/Navy Seal" of the intellect HE is!)
Russel and Ben would make a heck of a cool team :)
Such a valuable, insightful interview! Thank you both for your humanity and goodwill!
This is one of the best discussions I have heard in a long time. This is proper discourse. This is how we all should speak to each other. Ben put it very plainly and eliquently earlier. Deep respect for both gentlemen.
First time listening to Russell Brand interviewing someone. I like his style and the fact he respects his guests.
Agreed! He is one of the best interviewers in my opinion. I started listening to him after watching Rogan and Rogan drives me nuts with his interrupting its so dang rude!
Ikr - what a concept!
I found Russel because he interviewed Jordan Peterson. And I could tell that, at the beginning of the interview, he was prepared to deal with a truly awful person. And then, as he talked to Jordan, he came to the realization "He's a psychologist who wants to heal people." and his demeanor changed completely. The fact he was able to see that when everybody else just wanted to "gotcha" Jordan Peterson really struck me, and I've been interested in him ever since.
Isn't it refreshing to find a media company that has good ethics? Every other crap channel tells you what to think , OR ELSE!
Russel is very impressive. I disagree with him on some of his views, but he is truly seeking knowledge and wisdom. It reminds me I should do that more. It's so easy to dig your heels in and think I've reached the truth. Total respect for him.
God told me He wants the whole world to know Jesus Christ...and that's the truth.
@Baby Barbie I saw Jesus in a dream as well and I think He did look a little bit like Russel. But if your heart really wants to know if Jesus is the Son of God, you can ask Him to show you; I asked many years ago and He let me know it's true, so I know He will keep His promise to show you if your sincere.
Too bad you can't say the same for the other guy. Shapiro is an intolerant shill....
@@christopherculler1390 actually I can say that for Ben. Who's he shilling fir? Intolerant of who? I'm intolerant of liars. Does that make me intolerant?
@@marchebert938 don't expect a reply from him. He's regurgitated his boilerplate tribalistic talking point, and he likely hasn't thought for a second about the meaning of that statement, to say nothing of examples.
As an atheist, I found that this observance of a Sabbath, to step off, reset and contemplate things...is a refreshing idea.
Thanks to the both of you for taking the time and listening to each other and for being very respectful towards the other. I am very thankful to have you both on my utube
I remember as a Christian through the 90's I was always able to have polite and respectful conversations with people who were diametrically opposed to my view. This interview reminds me of those times
Things were nice before 9/11
Their viewpoint being diametric means it's opposed. You don't have to say it twice. ;) If you're going to use fancy words may as well use them correctly.
@@durden91tyler Diametrically opposed is a phrase that has been in use since at least the mid-1600s, and is still is common use today. We will examine the meaning of the term diametrically opposed, where it came from and some examples of its use in sentences. The phrase diametrically opposed means to be completely and directly in opposition to something. The reference is to the two opposing points on either end of a diameter line drawn across a circle. The word diametrically is derived from the word diametrical, which is the adjective form of the word diameter. The word diameter is derived from the Greek word diametros, which means measuring across or the diagonal of a circle. Though the word diametrically may be used in reference to the diameter of an object or theoretical figure, it is most often used in the phrase diametrically opposed. The noun form is expressed as in diametrical opposition.
@@durden91tyler Maybe you need to learn how to use them correctly
@@durden91tyler....boorishness....
The sign of a good debate is when it is hard to tell that the participants are disagreeing...and they are in fact discussing ideas honestly and with authenticity.
You’re right on the money with that.
This is more of an interview and conversation of brand wanting to know what’s going on in Bens world. The people who are lost in this world are the ones who are picking a winner when there’s no game
It was a blast to watch/listen to
Or just scream Russia Russia Russia instead!
Yeah, no. By virtue it should be very obvious who is on what side of a debate between two people. This is just a sycophantic chat carried out by two pseudo intellectual bullshiters.
This is gonna be good! Love stumbling along these old discussions.
Though this genuine conversation is few and far between...the shift and realization of said talks are being made more often and are a breath of fresh air. Thank you