Tollense Valley | Europe's First Battle (Bronze Age History Documentary)

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The Battle of the Tollense Valley took place in Bronze Age Germany c.1250 BC. Was this Europe's first battle?
Archeological discoveries in the Tollense Valley in Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, Northeast Germany suggest this was the site of a conflict in the 13th century BC. (Closest dates might be 1230 - 1240 BC) This was the European Middle Bronze Age.
As well as weapons and other artefacts, thousands of bones representing at least 140 individuals have been found here and most are men of fighting age. Some bones show injuries received at the point of death.
There might have been between 3000 and 7000 participants which if true is a truly enormous prehistoric battle.
So was this a great pitched battle? An ambush? A series of small skirmishes?
Despite all the evidence, piecing together exactly who these people were, how many there were, where they came from and what happened here… is not so simple.
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An early Bronze Age causeway in the Tollense Valley - Jantzen (2014)
Bronze Age tin rings from the Tollense valley - Krüger (2012)
Low Prevalence of Lactase Persistence in Bronze Age Europe - Burger (2020)
Flint arrowhead embedded in a human humerus from the Bronze Age site in the Tollense valley - Flohr (2015)
Instrumental investigation of oxygen isotopes in human dental enamel from the Bronze Age battlefield site at Tollense - Price (2019)
Perimortem Lesions on Human Bones from the Bronze Age Battlefield in the Tollense - Brinker (2018)
A Bronze Age battlefield? Weapons and trauma in the Tollense Valley - Jantzen (2010)
Tollense Battle Ancient DNA, they had hunter gatherer roots by Genos Historia ➜ • Tollense Battle Ancien...
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There is DNA evidence that some of these people had high proportion of Western Hunter Gatherer DNA. I have a post about this on Patreon linked in the comments.
Video Chapters
00:00 Prepare for Battle
02:32 The Tollense Valley Battlefield
06:26 Bronze Age Europe
08:18 Bronze Age Warrior Aristocracy
10:01 Material Evidence
13:14 Isotope Analysis
14:08 DNA Evidence
15:35 What Actually Happened?
16:48 Alternative Theories

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  • Thanks for watching! Please hit "like" and share the video around - it helps me out SO much. And if you enjoy my videos please consider supporting the channel: Patreon ➜ www.patreon.com/dandavisauthor My books ➜ amzn.to/3xngwz5 Check out this accompanying Patreon-exclusive post on the high hunter-gatherer ancestry in some of the Tollense Valley DNA samples: www.patreon.com/posts/hunter-gatherers-56604642

    @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • Please do one how did bronze age era people.train for war

      @ajithsidhu7183@ajithsidhu71832 жыл бұрын
    • Hey brother, old subscriber with a new profile. I like how you work through the microcosm of the details. Not looking at a culture from outside, but from the singular individual perspective. It is refreshing.

      @CaucAsianSasquatch@CaucAsianSasquatch2 жыл бұрын
    • @@ajithsidhu7183 yes I will do. You ask this on every video and I said yes last time! I will get to it eventually. There are things to say about how sporting events emerged from war training and also from funeral games.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • Great storytelling. Each one is better than the last. Thank you.

      @pasquinomarforio@pasquinomarforio2 жыл бұрын
    • @@pasquinomarforio thank you very much.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • When I went to school some 50 years ago, the Bronze Age was portrayed as a Middle Eastern thing. Even the Mycenaeans were not mentioned except as a half-mythical past referenced by the Iron Age Greeks. I grew up believing Europeans were fur-clad reindeer hunters until the light of civilization spread from Egypt via Greece and Rome to finally reach Western Europe. Today we know that the real prehistory of Europe was far more complex and fascinating. Or at least some of us know, and hopefully with the help of your videos, some more people will get a glimpse of a world almost lost in the fog of time.

    @MagnusItland@MagnusItland2 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • There was a religious complex (they think) uncovered in the Hebredees that was much bigger than what the local community would have needed so they're presuming it was some sort of ancient Vatican type place for a religion that is long forgotten. The "all roads lead to Rome" attitude in history and archaeology did not do northwest Europe any favours and has been ignored or treated with derision. I think there are worlds (as it were) yet to be found not unlike the Hittites and Fertile Crescent civilizations.

      @jelkel25@jelkel252 жыл бұрын
    • Well said.

      @dirksharp9876@dirksharp98762 жыл бұрын
    • Do you mean the Ness of Brodgar site? That is an amazing Neolithic centre - probably extremely influential in Britain and beyond. I talk about it a bit in the Neolithic Britain video.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • @@DanDavisHistory That's the one, I'm given to believe it is easily accessible by boat which was the most efficient form of travel then so could have been used by multiple north European countries. Gets the old grey matter in motion!

      @jelkel25@jelkel252 жыл бұрын
  • Definitely one of my pre battle thoughts would be “I’d rather die by the sword than be clubbed by that bloody Shillelagh!”

    @18Bees@18Bees2 жыл бұрын
    • I’d rather live by the bow than die by the sword.

      @philvanderlaan5942@philvanderlaan59422 жыл бұрын
    • @@philvanderlaan5942 the ancient sniper?

      @18Bees@18Bees2 жыл бұрын
    • @@18Bees i just would be more comfortable 60-70 meters farther away from my enemy than he can reach especially since I would not want to be wearing 15-20kg of bronze hoplite armor in that swampy ground

      @philvanderlaan5942@philvanderlaan59422 жыл бұрын
    • @@philvanderlaan5942 makes it difficult to breath when your face down in the swamp 😂😎

      @18Bees@18Bees2 жыл бұрын
    • @@18Bees kinda my point! , the only death in the SCA that I am aware of was a guy in a rural Pennsylvania tournament ( war ) who fell down in one of those 13th century French crow beak helmets and drowned because he had nailed himself to the bottom of a mud puddle.

      @philvanderlaan5942@philvanderlaan59422 жыл бұрын
  • I watched a documentary about this site and never thought about it again. You have given it more life in 20 minutes than those attempting to make an entire documentary about it were able to. Thank you for your channel and keep up the amazing work!

    @rachel_Cochran@rachel_Cochran2 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you, great to hear that.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • I second this opinion. Great video where you really manage to bring to light how modern archaeology gives us clues to how much we can interpret this event. The introduction alone with a possible interpretation was gripping.

      @chubbymoth5810@chubbymoth58102 жыл бұрын
    • @@chubbymoth5810 thanks! I'm never sure about doing those kinds of intros because I expect they put some people. But I'm glad you enjoyed it.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • tv documentaries are often far less informative and interesting than a youtube video on the same topic, that is 5 times shorter

      @Sugar_Cuckoo@Sugar_Cuckoo2 жыл бұрын
    • @@DanDavisHistory you forget to take some very interesting things into consideration, a very important fact. Bronze swords, axes and spears have been pulled out ofDanish borgs from that time period, and not just small amount but in large quantaties. To me that point toward that the victors came from the north. That also match with roman and other germani accounts, namely that the strongest tribes came from north.

      @shades2.183@shades2.1832 жыл бұрын
  • It’s the obscurity of it all that gets me, I can imagine chieftains on both sides promising immortal glory and eternal veneration for their men if they win. Now we don’t even know who they are

    @constantinexi6489@constantinexi64892 жыл бұрын
    • and it was like that for tens of thousands of years before we have written history. pretty insane to think about. when you look at castles whose ruins are basically just rubble after 2k years.

      @65stang98@65stang982 жыл бұрын
    • Maybe. Or maybe they're half remembered as old gods. Who knows

      @jasonmain6398@jasonmain63982 жыл бұрын
    • The same stuff they promise young people to fight and die for someone else for millennia and people just keep falling for it over and over again and again.

      @USERZ123XD@USERZ123XD2 жыл бұрын
    • It's still exactly the same today. No one gives two fucks about dead soldiers. They're still pawns in a chess game run by warlords.

      @salamandress@salamandress2 жыл бұрын
    • @@jasonmain6398 plausible imo

      @Hugh_Morris@Hugh_Morris2 жыл бұрын
  • Fascinating, it shows that Early Europe was a fluid, ever changing world back then even before recorded history was collected. It could make a nice TV series if more details were available.

    @Wolfen443@Wolfen4432 жыл бұрын
    • As long as the final episode isn't a major disappointment ...

      @paulohagan3309@paulohagan33092 жыл бұрын
    • The Nordic Bronze Age persisted for a continuous 1300 years, and survived the Bronze Age Collapse of the 13th century BC -- which witnessed the destruction of every major civilized center in the more "fluid" south with the space of 50 years -- for 700 years. It was in the context of that great collapse that the Tollense Battle took place in. It was likely a (motley) host moving up from the south looking to penetrate the wealthy (amber) and stable and more homogeneous Northlands.

      @arynmartin@arynmartin2 жыл бұрын
    • @@paulohagan3309 , we do not know how it ended, that is the problem filming something like it.

      @Wolfen443@Wolfen4432 жыл бұрын
    • @@paulohagan3309 oh I see what you did there. Lets hope it gets corrected this time around. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

      @drewskij2175@drewskij21752 жыл бұрын
    • @@drewskij2175 Apparently there's a prequel coming ... something about dragons ... maybe in the last episode the ladies will spring forward with their magical fire extinguishers ...

      @paulohagan3309@paulohagan33092 жыл бұрын
  • I like how you stress the things which we simply don't know.

    @sitrilko@sitrilko2 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah there are so many possible interpretations and doing archeology takes a long time. It's difficult here too because so much is underwater. I hope they continue to get funding to do the work though.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • one of the wisest realizations of socrates, and one of the most ignored

      @levitatingoctahedron922@levitatingoctahedron9222 жыл бұрын
    • For every one thing we know about prehistory there are a hundred things we still have yet to learn, and a thousand that we will never know.

      @tygrkhat4087@tygrkhat40872 жыл бұрын
    • I liked that too. It's a much more trustworthy style of presentation so I left feeling like I got a solid education on the topic. Plus the mystery of it all is engaging in its own right. No matter what these people were like, safe to say they had a whole host of strange myths, superstitions, beliefs, rituals and habits that wouldn't make any sense without one of them explaining it. Doubt we'll ever get to a real understanding of something that far gone without a written record but it's very interesting to speculate.

      @jk7140@jk71402 жыл бұрын
    • except for the clickbait title

      @ohhi5237@ohhi523717 күн бұрын
  • This video is like a dream for me. I've been fascinated by Bronze Age trade routes for more than 20 years, and this is the most comprehensive explanation of routes and items traded that I've seen or heard of so far. I guess I have to check out the sources and read a few more books. Thanks for putting this together. Love it.

    @lesleeg9481@lesleeg94812 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you! Very happy to read that. I'll have to make more videos about these trade routes because it is fascinating, I agree. Cheers.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • That’s a fascination of mine as well, the late bronze age really was extraordinairy interconnected

      @michieldeprez4025@michieldeprez40252 жыл бұрын
    • During Bronze age Danish Gudme were directly connected with local authorities in Hungary, despite several thousands kilometres of distance. Metallurgy has proven similarities from excavations.

      @OmmerSyssel@OmmerSyssel2 жыл бұрын
    • Leslee gill. Can you recommend some books or other source about this era?

      @Baranina123@Baranina1232 жыл бұрын
  • The battle at Alken Enge in Denmark was around the same time as this one. And it was also a well equipped army vs poor local farmers. A whole generation of local people died in that battle. They can see how many farming fields turned into thick forrest in the decades after the battle. And, we know nothing about the reasons for the battle either. Our local museum have the bones and weapons from the warriors on show.

    @plurplursen7172@plurplursen71722 жыл бұрын
    • That's great they have the artefacts in the local museum. That clash was in the Iron Age, sometime in the 1st century AD, over a thousand years after this. And the work there has helped inform some interpretations of the Tollense site. There are so many places in Denmark where the conditions help to preserve evidence. I hope that more battle sites are uncovered in future.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • @@DanDavisHistory The theory is that because of the decline of the roman empire, there was a lot of unrest in Europe. The power vacuum created migrations. But it's a mystery I hope we one day can know about. It's incredible how little progress in warfare and tech there was, from the battle at Tollense to Alken 1000 years later.

      @plurplursen7172@plurplursen71722 жыл бұрын
    • @@plurplursen7172 No mystery that Germanic tribes fought other Germanic tribes. When you worship war gods and practice human sacrifice then you need battles and sacrifices.

      @wijse@wijse2 жыл бұрын
    • @@wijse These people weren't speaking German. It wasn't even a language yet. They were simply being Killed by invading R1a horsemen, who entirely replaced them in this area.

      @zipperpillow@zipperpillow Жыл бұрын
    • @@zipperpillow I wrote Germanic tribes, not german language and i did not write the comment as commentary to the video, but as a comment for what Plur Plursen wrote about roman empire and alken (Germanic iron age battle). Read my comment again and Plur Plursens comment.

      @wijse@wijse Жыл бұрын
  • I love that you are able to blend the uncertainty inherent in archaeology with storytelling. This video was very well done.

    @connorpollock6087@connorpollock60872 жыл бұрын
    • Glad you enjoyed it, cheers.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • Exactly!

      @praetorianstride5948@praetorianstride59482 жыл бұрын
  • I was already impressed with the video but my approval skyrocketed when you went on and on about what we DON'T KNOW and MIGHT HAVE GOTTEN WRONG after telling us what we DO KNOW. That is rare to see and thus precious. I stand a new subscriber, and probably a Patreon shortly.

    @richjordan6461@richjordan6461 Жыл бұрын
  • THIS. IS. FASCINATING. I've always been intrigued by ancient cultures, and I wonder often how many incredible stories they had to tell that just got lost to the flow of time. And wouldn't you know it, but I'm also writing fantasy and sci-fi! So yeah, I think I might have just stumbled across a new favorite channel. Thanks Dan! **proceeds to binge these videos with reckless abandon**

    @audreydimmel6674@audreydimmel66742 жыл бұрын
    • Check this out; 3:11 this flint arrowhead is descended from a tool making tradition known as Solutrean, there’s just absolutely no doubt about it. People don’t understand how difficult flint napping is, especially tiny arrowheads like this, someone HAS to teach you how to do it if you ever hope to get good enough to make something like this arrowhead, the larger knives are a bit easier to work with but the nicest ceremonial ones are an ancient tradition. I’m a little shocked it’s still being used anywhere this late in the Bronze Age, because for arrows flint is just… massively inferior to metals. You have to be so accurate to hit something that’ll get a kill with one shot, which is what you need for hunting more so than military use. This toolmaking tradition was used for over 20,000 years. This is super off topic from the video but you seem to be enthusiastic about the history of our people so I thought I’d give you a fun fact that he didn’t mention in the video.

      @Thor-Orion@Thor-Orion7 ай бұрын
  • Love these videos Dan! Having a professional author like yourself as a presenter of history goes a long way in adding a depth of narrative that truly makes history gripping. Looking forward to the next one!

    @blazingangel623@blazingangel6232 жыл бұрын
    • Wonderful, thank you so much.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • Totally agree with you. BTW, I let you yellow jackets alone as you chew on my honeybees 🐝😎

      @18Bees@18Bees2 жыл бұрын
    • Ramble on Wreck

      @markuhler2664@markuhler26642 жыл бұрын
    • Professional historians do the best of job of telling history.

      @Zanenoth@Zanenoth9 ай бұрын
  • Wooohoop had to comment before watching. So excited to have a Sunday (Pacific Northwest here) morning episode. Grabbing coffee and off to sit outside with my bees and listen to this one. Cheers.

    @18Bees@18Bees2 жыл бұрын
    • That sounds perfect. I hope you enjoy the video (and your coffee). Cheers.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • @@DanDavisHistory loved it. Tnx mate.

      @18Bees@18Bees2 жыл бұрын
  • There is a rich full history of man that occurred before our known history. I believe the rule of ten applies. Whatever you think ancient man did, times it by at least ten. Nice video.

    @Badbrad5133@Badbrad51332 жыл бұрын
    • Whole heartedly agree. We know 1% of 1%

      @gmoney5947@gmoney59472 жыл бұрын
    • @@gmoney5947 if that.

      @drewskij2175@drewskij21752 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent. All this history we've lost, none recorded for the ages.

    @RemusKingOfRome@RemusKingOfRome2 жыл бұрын
  • The part that showed me what an incredible scholar you are, made me nearly forget the bit that showed you an awesome poet.

    @TheEvertw@TheEvertw2 жыл бұрын
  • Mad respect to you Dan. You are a man to look up to. I am shocked one single individual can be so damn good at both scholarship, artistry and communication. Your name will live on, your ancestors are honoured and proud. I trully hope you are getting all the glory, gold, women and followers you deserve. Thanks for your immense contribution to the spread of knowledge among us lay folks. Your content is nothing short of a treasure. Also, your books are real page turners, I am addicted to it.

    @30035XD@30035XD2 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you very much, delighted to hear it.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • @@DanDavisHistory it is from the heart Dave. Let me ask you something: do you have experience with martial arts or the military? The way you describe fighting and tactics is not common among the wider public. It is to me one of the highlights of your writing. Not because I enjoy gore but because I have a background in both and I struggle to suspend my disbelief in that regard. I can also tell from your Q&A video that you are no nerd yourself and I wondered if you have real life experience with the reality of combat.

      @30035XD@30035XD2 жыл бұрын
    • KZhead liege lord, lol.

      @StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz@StalinLovsMsmZioglowfagz11 ай бұрын
  • The Mycenaeans conquered Europe’s largest city at the time, Knossos in 1450 BC

    @universetraveler5826@universetraveler5826 Жыл бұрын
    • I think he meant the first known battle in temperate Europe

      @SithStudy@SithStudy Жыл бұрын
    • @@SithStudyI doubt it. There’s not really a temperate climate in Europe. It’s a large spectrum. Also, why would anyone care about climate? They’re all Europeans

      @peterthesneakybastar@peterthesneakybastar Жыл бұрын
  • Really love the narration in the beginning man it's obvious you're a novelist. You have a talent for storytelling

    @sterkar99@sterkar992 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you very much.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • @@DanDavisHistory Gonna look for your books. I've wanted to get back into books for a long time. Tried self-improvement, long story short not for me they cringed me. A well written novel based on one of my biggest interests in this period of time sounds like a really good idea

      @sterkar99@sterkar992 жыл бұрын
  • As always fantastic Dan. So much to think about in scenarios with this much heaped evidence. The truth of the matter can never be ascertained but only snippets glimpsed.

    @basilbrushbooshieboosh5302@basilbrushbooshieboosh53022 жыл бұрын
  • This answers video answers some of the questions I had. It brings on so many others as well. Thank you for another outstanding video.

    @kirkjones9639@kirkjones96392 жыл бұрын
  • I just had to subscribe. 2 video's in a row on my way to work. I usually watch 1 & then go for some quiet time. Bloody great historical imagination, well researched & at the same time humble. No academic elitism here. Love your work friend

    @nicholaspikos7012@nicholaspikos7012 Жыл бұрын
  • Such a difference between someone who is trying to give perspective and understanding versus someone who wants to get rich talking. Well done Dan!

    @guydesnoyers8417@guydesnoyers8417 Жыл бұрын
  • It's so refreshing to see a youtube video marking the shortcomings of the information gathered and what is needed to have a better picture. Suscribed.

    @enumerado9@enumerado99 ай бұрын
  • Great history delivery...thorough, interesting and humble. "Could be this....yet it could be that, these are the facts that we know." Thanks again, I enjoy your videos on some of the most difficult history to pin down.

    @xen4886@xen48862 жыл бұрын
  • At skanderborg in denmark they found a battlefield with I think 3000 butchered local men of all ages supposedly having met a much stronger maybe bigger army

    @lottesrensen8004@lottesrensen80042 жыл бұрын
    • Have they been able to date the battle?

      @alexanderren1097@alexanderren10972 жыл бұрын
  • So well done! Thanks for making this!

    @SharekGadd@SharekGadd2 жыл бұрын
  • I didn't know what you sounded like before I found this channel but I gotta say, now I hear your voice when I read your books... Awesome vids, AND books!

    @IFY0USEEKAY@IFY0USEEKAY2 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you very much.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • Okay I literally had to pause the video to say: that intro was amazing! You have crazy story telling skills.

    @hrodvitnir6725@hrodvitnir67252 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks!

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • I think this channel needs more love, all around it's pretty excellent stuff.

    @galloe8933@galloe89332 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you, I appreciate it.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • Splendidly done! I was on the edge of my seat from start to finish!

    @AncientAmericas@AncientAmericas2 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks very much! I'm a big fan of yours, that means a lot.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • Very nicely done! I like the way you show the actual battlefield and posit how it could have happened in a nice narrative. But then you fill in the pleasant hypothesis with the info about the people and finds, and the questions that real historians and scientists should ask. Hope to see more like this!

    @FreedomToRoam86@FreedomToRoam869 ай бұрын
  • Ever since I first read a little snippet about this site, I've been fascinated by all the possible interpretations.

    @thefisherking78@thefisherking782 жыл бұрын
  • Can’t have enough of your videos. Great work dude!

    @petloh1882@petloh18822 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you, I appreciate it. Glad you liked this one.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • Another amazing video man please keep them coming the bronze age and Europe and Eurasia is such an under-researched and documented. But it is one of if not the most interesting to me and apparently everyone else here

    @ericcloud1023@ericcloud10232 жыл бұрын
  • Brilliant video Dan.. This was a fascinating discovery, I wonder what else we will learn about this site and this battle......? Your a VERY creative individual, an admirable trait.. Love your storytelling... Helps put me in the proper space and time... Context is crucial..!✌ thanks again Dan...

    @michaelterry3885@michaelterry38852 жыл бұрын
  • Fascinating! I pass by the Tollense Valley (Tollensetal) every day on my way to work. Strange to know what happend there.

    @AlbusBlanco@AlbusBlanco2 жыл бұрын
    • Awesome. Thanks for watching.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome video in such an underrated topic!!! Keep up this awesome work!!!

    @lefterismagkoutas4430@lefterismagkoutas44302 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • I think I've rewatched the Alternative analysis chapter 10 times by now Very thought inspiring!

    @benghazi4216@benghazi42162 жыл бұрын
  • There is one fact that cannot be denied. Europe's history paved way for the modern world.

    @todd-2362@todd-23622 жыл бұрын
    • Yes. Europe's pre-Christian history in particular. I used to subscribe to the mindset that "Western Civilization was created based on Judeo-Christian values." Besides the fact that "Judeo-Christian" values don't and can't exist because they are contradictory value systems, I have since realized the foundations of "Western Civilization" were set LONG before either Christianity or Judaism came into being.

      @alexanderren1097@alexanderren10972 жыл бұрын
  • Good as always Dan, you have a talent for narration!

    @Matt-ni8jh@Matt-ni8jh2 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you, appreciate it.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • I recently discovered your channel and I'm very impressed with the great range of resources that you bring together. Sometimes I get interested in an artifact or ancient tool or weapon and try to discover more about it but I don't get far in my research. You bring together great photos but also many layers of additional information and - most importantly - a great depth of context that is usually missing from written articles, photos and the like. Great work, Dan!

    @1dayhabit@1dayhabit2 жыл бұрын
  • Fantastic job Dan! Subscribed! ❤

    @stranger2Utube@stranger2Utube23 күн бұрын
  • Another great video Dan.

    @petergurry9652@petergurry96522 жыл бұрын
  • I really like the amount of nuance in this video and others of yours, its really points to your ethics as a researcher.

    @symonjones43@symonjones432 жыл бұрын
  • GREAT Video !!!

    @AdamCeladin@AdamCeladin2 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Adam.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • @@DanDavisHistory I gave you a sub looking forward for more videos Dan :)) Really amazing job

      @AdamCeladin@AdamCeladin2 жыл бұрын
    • Cheers mate, I hope you enjoy the other videos.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • @@AdamCeladin OMG ITS THE KNIFE THROWING DUDE! RESPECT TO BOTH OF YOU!

      @Ziggiratt@Ziggiratt2 жыл бұрын
  • Great video. You put so much time, effort, and consideration into these and it shows.

    @ariomannosyemo9090@ariomannosyemo90902 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you, mate. I'm glad you enjoyed it. I appreciate your support.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for another great video on Bronze age warfare. I really enjoy these. I was wondering when you'd do a video on the Tollense battle, it really is such an amazing site.

    @genoshistoria3487@genoshistoria34872 жыл бұрын
    • Cheers mate, I appreciate it. I didn't want to do a video on it, I was going to focus on other stuff but under almost every video and post people were asking for it or asking about it. So I thought I better do it.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • This is fascinating, great content thanks, and good to see the detectorists get a well deserved mention, still looking for a mayoral chain

    @FlimFlame@FlimFlame2 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent presentation. Thank you.

    @stevec7923@stevec79232 жыл бұрын
  • Good video as always, the Tollense Valley battle is a very interesting topic.

    @octodaddy4494@octodaddy44942 жыл бұрын
  • I love that you incorporate archaeological evidence into your fiction. I love that so much, that you make a plausible scenario out of a pile of scraps and then go on to explain it.

    @laurahill9643@laurahill96432 жыл бұрын
  • Fascinating stuff, who knows what we might be able to see from Tollense in the future!

    @edwardealdseaxe5253@edwardealdseaxe52532 жыл бұрын
    • Yeah it's such an exciting discovery and there's so much more to find out.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • @@DanDavisHistory My own Y-DNA is downstream of I2a, fascinating to think some of my own distant ancestors participating here.

      @edwardealdseaxe5253@edwardealdseaxe52532 жыл бұрын
    • @@edwardealdseaxe5253 from which company did you buy your test? Am thinking about doing it myself.

      @Peter-ri9ie@Peter-ri9ie2 жыл бұрын
    • @@Peter-ri9ie I did 23andMe to get my Y-DNA, but there are other options if you just want to test for Y-DNA. Some commercial tests like AncestryDNA do not offer a sequenced Y Chromosome.

      @edwardealdseaxe5253@edwardealdseaxe52532 жыл бұрын
    • @@edwardealdseaxe5253 🙏🏻

      @Peter-ri9ie@Peter-ri9ie2 жыл бұрын
  • Great video. Thank you for your work sir.

    @johncoyote6755@johncoyote6755 Жыл бұрын
  • You've done a great documentary which displays in an eloquent and entartaining manner how much uncertainties history is about - and still how much information can be gathered with scientific method, as long as we are sincere about what the facts are, what are the guesses and what is mere speculation, as well as what research needs to be done, to know more.

    @bialasova@bialasova Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent coverage , never heard of this battle and I have read a lot of ancient history. Thank you for enlightening myself. Keep up the good work.

    @riharikaa809@riharikaa8092 жыл бұрын
  • Either this is an incredibly interesting topic that I've never found before, or your low-key presentation puts forward so well what we can discover & what we can't know (or at least with certainty). Or, most likely, both. Thank you.

    @markuhler2664@markuhler26642 жыл бұрын
  • An excellent intro to the subject, very informative, subscribed.

    @olwens1368@olwens1368 Жыл бұрын
  • So glad i found this channel, I wish I did sooner though. Keep the videos coming man! ✌️

    @John-mf6ky@John-mf6ky2 жыл бұрын
  • Wonderful detailed & eloquent descriptions of our past which clearly started long before the Roman/ Green Mediterranean cultures or even the Kelts. Where is my time machine to see with my own eyes what you explain so nicely- thank you Dan

    @ottoabuoskarkurzendorfer6282@ottoabuoskarkurzendorfer62822 жыл бұрын
    • A time machine….oh if only such a thing existed… and that’s why we come to these channels.

      @18Bees@18Bees2 жыл бұрын
    • Of course our history "clearly" begins long before Romans and Greeks. I supposed everyone already knew that 😎

      @PauloPereira-jj4jv@PauloPereira-jj4jv2 жыл бұрын
    • The Celts were not far behind this time period. Perhaps, some of the combattants were "Proto Celtic".

      @abrahamdozer6273@abrahamdozer62732 жыл бұрын
    • @@abrahamdozer6273 Proto Norse, Proto Slav, Proto Teuton and many other Proto tribes might have been there.

      @tygrkhat4087@tygrkhat40872 жыл бұрын
    • @@tygrkhat4087 I would say so. The Yamnaya appear to have spread their seed and culture over all of the peoples that you listed a millennium or two before this battle occurred.

      @abrahamdozer6273@abrahamdozer62732 жыл бұрын
  • Check the article by professor Anatoli Klisov, which suggest a strong component of R1A haplogroups in one population (your group 2). That suggests a battle between ancient Slavs and western populations. So not North X South but clearly West X East

    @JP-re3bc@JP-re3bc Жыл бұрын
  • This was amazing! Thank you so much for making this🥇

    @beberivera7011@beberivera70112 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for the great content, have been pondering this historic battle for some time. Nice to see all these great perspectives

    @steler1623@steler16232 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for watching. It is so intriguing isn't it. Something I was going to discuss but cut out was the idea this was a sacrifice site. There are reasons to think it isn't because it doesn't look like other, later, smaller scale sacrifice sites but still that's an interesting possibility.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • @@DanDavisHistory Yeah my thoughts as well. I'm from Denmark and we have a site here in Illerup Ådal where it seems all the chieftains of Jutland band together to fight off and defeated a large roman legion maybe in the same luring/baiting technique you mentioned. They then took all the weapenry, lootings and armour crushed it to pieces and dumped it in the lake not long after the battle. The same thing is could be possible for many battlesights around these parts as if was a coindence it got discovered beneith meters of dirt and debree from exposed lakebed. Even the holy roman empire seemed to draw their border around here as the tribes up north might have had quarrels among themselves but always seem to unite to fight off southern and eastern armies

      @steler1623@steler16232 жыл бұрын
  • Loved this one, makes the imagination flee.

    @yeraycatalangaspar195@yeraycatalangaspar1952 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you, good to know. I'm never sure about the "scene setting" stuff and don't want to put people off but some people ask for more of it.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • Good job!

    @mfbobyle6771@mfbobyle67712 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent presentation!! The quality I've been searching for, where others fall short! Earned my sub!!!

    @jasoncastle4818@jasoncastle48182 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you, welcome to the channel. I hope you enjoy the other videos.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • Great video. Good insight & logic applied.

    @FromaTwistedMind@FromaTwistedMind2 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you very much.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • Just found your channel and I enjoy how you condense the information, yet maintaining the details. I have never heard of this specific area. I can't wait to check out your other videos.

    @amethyst5538@amethyst55382 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks very much, welcome to the channel. I hope you like the other videos too.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • Just came across this channel. Outstanding narrative, solid evidence based approach and broad, open minded delivery. Can’t wait to see more

    @lloydklumpp5650@lloydklumpp5650 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video. Thank you!

    @tweedledumart4154@tweedledumart41542 жыл бұрын
  • Very interesting and immersive. Thanks

    @basfinnis@basfinnis2 жыл бұрын
  • I absolutely loved watching this. Such an amazing and mysterious site

    @jezusbloodie@jezusbloodie2 жыл бұрын
    • Glad you enjoyed it, cheers mate.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • Interesting video. I especially appreciate the discussion at the end about all the different possibilities these finds could mean. All too often we only hear one or a few interpretations, making findings seem more simple and clear cut than they probably are.

    @heirwolf6929@heirwolf69292 жыл бұрын
  • Thanks. Hope it goes towards a morning brew or whatever. The stories and history are great. Would you consider longer-form podcast-type stuff?

    @UkSapyy@UkSapyy Жыл бұрын
  • found you today and i must say i absolutly LOVE your voice and your videos already keep up the great work and hope to see more amazing videos in the future good luck and have a great day

    @diggingdwarf610@diggingdwarf6102 жыл бұрын
  • even though I have heard about this event a number of times, your story made me feel that exciting feeling again that I felt the first time I heard about it! 👏

    @nordanina225@nordanina2252 жыл бұрын
  • Dude, i really enjoyed that. We never really learned much about bronze age Europe in school. It was always Egypt and Greece.

    @custink22@custink222 жыл бұрын
  • Superbly researched.Well done fella.

    @petermcfarlane7978@petermcfarlane79782 жыл бұрын
    • Cheers Peter.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • Great video!

    @dfaltin@dfaltin Жыл бұрын
  • What comes to my mind are the troubles the bronze age people of Europe and wider Mediterranean suffered in this period. Dissolving of trade routed you mentioned, migrations of large groups of people and abandonment of settlements. It is not odd at all to immagine entire tribes and peoples from northern Europe migrating southwards in search of a new home and territory, very possible resulting in battles and skirmishes as this one. A great video once again Mr.Davis! Always a great time learning more about this very interesting and important period of history.

    @heimdallr221@heimdallr2212 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you. Yes great changes were afoot.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • One of the ways you can gauge the violence of an era is the proportion of skeletons found with signs of violence versus those without. Another good gauge is the standardization of armaments found, both shape, composition, and relative age. The final gauge is the effectiveness of defensive armor, pieces of which are found around bodies that were never buried, this indicates an arms race and hence continuous warfare and a warrior caste

    @MauriceLeviejr@MauriceLeviejr Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent stuff..thank you✌️

    @kimhewitt921@kimhewitt921 Жыл бұрын
  • I love your videos man. they shine a light on a massive part of history that is frequently overlooked. keep it up!

    @philip2438@philip24382 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you, I appreciate it.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • @@DanDavisHistoryb

      @johntaylor9207@johntaylor92079 ай бұрын
  • Another excellent video from an excellent author

    @keeperoftruth5951@keeperoftruth59512 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you very much, so glad you enjoyed it!

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • Very nice video. Well done

    @DamianoPetrucci@DamianoPetrucci2 жыл бұрын
  • Excellent documentary!

    @georgejcking@georgejcking Жыл бұрын
  • Great video. As a kid I loved Arnold Schwarzenegger's Conan the Barbarian movie. I know that it doesn't represent this period of time but.... To this day that's what I imagine in my head when I watch videos or read about this era of human history.

    @perceivedvelocity9914@perceivedvelocity99142 жыл бұрын
    • It's now been demonstrated via DNA evidence that millennia ago, Western Europe was dominated by people with black hair, brown skin, and blue eyes. Very much the way Robert E. Howard described Conan and his people the Cimmerians, though this fact wasn't known in Howard's own time. So ancient Europe was inhabited by people who looked like Conan.

      @markwaldron8954@markwaldron89542 жыл бұрын
  • You’re officially my favorite KZheadr now

    @holdenedwards8506@holdenedwards85062 жыл бұрын
    • Wow thanks. You liked this one.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
    • @@DanDavisHistory I’ve loved all your videos! This is by far my favorite historical period and you do such a good job at explaining everything!

      @holdenedwards8506@holdenedwards85062 жыл бұрын
    • That's great to hear.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • Wonderful essay. Thank you.

    @Urgelt@Urgelt2 жыл бұрын
  • Im so hyped, I havent even watched the vid yet but everything about Tollense is just fascinating. Thx 4 the vid in advance, Im gonna enjoy it nonetheless.

    @demanager0412@demanager04122 жыл бұрын
  • A fascinating video…enjoyed it tremendously! I found it interesting to see how flint weapons were being used alongside bronze ones.

    @deadhorse1391@deadhorse13912 жыл бұрын
    • obsidian weapons were being used alongside firearms during the Indian wars in the 19th century. It is fascinating to think about how long certain weapon types were used.

      @01testigo@01testigo2 жыл бұрын
    • I often think it's more of a high demand kind of situation during battles when they needed to immediately supply soldiers with weapons, kinda like WW2 Sten and Grease guns, quick, easy and cheap to make.

      @zer0deaths862@zer0deaths8622 жыл бұрын
  • How does this channel not have a million subscribers!

    @tonymaurice4157@tonymaurice41572 жыл бұрын
  • I'm glad I found this channel. Fascinating stuff 👍

    @weediestbroom@weediestbroom2 жыл бұрын
    • I'm glad you did too. Cheers.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • Awesome video 👍👍

    @vikingbushcraft1911@vikingbushcraft19112 жыл бұрын
    • Thank you very much.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • New viewer here guy and have been doing a bit of a marathon of your videos and their really great. Buts it’s absolutely hilarious to hear how much you’ve improved with your speech flow and story telling. Listening to this and then listening to something like your “Invasion of England: John vs Louis” video it’s night and day how much better you’ve got. I did like your little funny snippets and 4th wall breaks you’d jump in with in your early vids that you don’t do as much now. But you do good stuff man and I just wanted to say that

    @Rockstar-bq5fm@Rockstar-bq5fm2 жыл бұрын
    • lol yeah my first ten videos or so I was just reading out old posts from my website and my Facebook page (jokes and asides included) and they would get about 50 views each. I think I had 30 subs in January this year. And then when they started getting popular I started putting the work in. I hope in a year or two I get really good at this. Anyway welcome to the channel mate. Cheers.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • Interesting that this took place within a century preceding the "bronze age collapse", which is often blamed on invasions of people from the northern coast of the Mediterranean, ie, Europe. The development of hillforts (7:12) suggests that the local population was starting to feel crowded.

    @jmmahony@jmmahony2 жыл бұрын
  • Well presented

    @jawinkantu3615@jawinkantu36152 жыл бұрын
  • These films of yours really are exceptionally good.

    @jcharlesbayliss@jcharlesbayliss2 жыл бұрын
    • Thanks Charlie.

      @DanDavisHistory@DanDavisHistory2 жыл бұрын
  • 19:45 this right here makes me want to think that one of the groups was fleeing over large distances from a superior force pillaging the region, and that they got caught at the river and were forced to fight.

    @levitatingoctahedron922@levitatingoctahedron9222 жыл бұрын
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