Monsters' Brawl! Corvette ZR1 vs Porsche 911 Turbo
2010 ж. 20 Қыр.
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It's the King of the Hill vs the Autobahn Kaiser. The Chevrolet Corvette ZR1 and the Porsche 911 Turbo do battle in a comparison of epic proportions at the track with professional hot shoe Justin Bell, on the drag strip and through a standing mile...
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Shot by: Mike Suggett, Gordon Green & Duane Sempson
Edited by: Mike Suggett
For anyone questioning the quality of the Corvette, remember that in this test the one that broke was the Porsche. Anyway, I love both !
Broke the Porsche? Dumbest comment I've ever seen on the interzones.
Engine wise C6 are solid as well as the 997s is the rest of the car that gets bashed for their quality. Also this is a 638hp vs 470hp car that is GT2 territory... but that's the thing with Porsches you gotta pay to play.. Love that aspect of the corvettes.
What most people don't realize is the ZR1 was one of the fastest production cars around the track back in the day. It set a 7:19 around the Nurburgring which at the time was faster then every car other then the Viper ACR , 911 gt2 rs and the LFA Nurburgring edition
The C6 ZR1 is the king of vettes, it dominated.... the C7 Zr1 cant hang with its current competitors.
@@contraststriker8198 The C7 Zr1 had a segmented time of 6:57 with Mero (granted it doesn't count) . The unofficial Nurb lap was 7:04 with cold tires and traffic! (they weren't allowed a hot lap and they had to run with regular street traffic). C7 ZR1 is plenty fast. GM didn't want to announce the 7:04 time, since they officially missed their mark at sub 7 (6:57).
Yep, it was sooooo amazing back in 2009 and even now it is still amazing
@@contraststriker8198 exactly
Uh sorry, but the LFA Nurburgring Edition is faster than the ZR1. The Nurburbring Edition did a 7:14. The ZR1 did beat the standard LFA round the ring tho
The videos have gotten so much better since 2010. haha
So have Porsche. ....ja?
Nope
As a corvette owner myself, you simply cant lose with either of these world-class vehicles.
The Zr1's drive-by is one of the most beautiful sounds EVER!
Nurburgring times- 7:19.63 Chevrolet Corvette C6 ZR1 (2012) 7:40 Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 (01/2007) 7:12:13 Dodge Viper ACR (2010) 7:25.7 Ferrari Enzo 2008 7:40.76 Lamborghini Gallardo LP570-4 Superleggera (11/2010)
Omg That LS9 sounds insane!
God.. A decade and the c6 is still cool
I'm European and I'd have the corvette, regardless of what's better built or better to drive the zr1 is just cooler.
Dave Checkley agreed
I'm an American and I dont care what they stuff up the add of a 911. They all look the fucking same. I'd love to see the dual over head cam 5.7L LT5 corvette from 1995 beat the shit out of that Porsche, before it broke down obviously. Porsche makes cars that look so much better than the 911. My cousin had some late 80s- really early 90s Porsche that kind of looked like a 944 but it had a 5.0L that made the same kind of power as Ford's new 5.0s. Why waste time with a 911 when you could have that. Better yet why waste the money on any Porsche wbheb you can but a low mileage 2002 ws6 Trans Am and modify it a little a have more than enough to scare the shit out of any one. Yes I'm bias. It my daily driver 2002 ws6 6 speed runs the same 1/4 mile times as the zr1
@@jonathanhudson4623 , sounds like your cousin had a 928. And if he was lucky he had the GTS or S4 version. The 928 was front engine, DOHC V8
@@TheCorrectionist1984 pretty sure he has it listed as an SE. I've seen the numbers they are supposed to make but his car doesnt make that kind of power. Hes always been a fraud and weirdo, so I dont trust anything he says
Johnny looks weird without a beard
Wow the ZR1 destroyed the 911 on a track. Holy shit and at the end the Porsche broke down ! So much for the superior German quality and engineering argument.
The C6 Z06 LS7 had lots of issues with their motors and differentials. Your dogging on ONE Porsche, yet, since 2010 Porsche has constantly ranked in the top 7 most dependable in ConsumerReports, which two of the years it ranked #1, above Lexus and Toyota. I dont see Chevrolet anywhere on the top 10. The amazing thing is, that 911 can go to the track, get groceries, and be a daily driver while averaging 25mpg. The #1 complaints on Corvettes have been their rough ride. Thats why they go on the market typically after 1 year of ownership.
@@IPGAuto well then, I've had my vette for 6 years and it's got plenty of room for groceries, golf clubs, Christmas presents, suit cases, and the like. The ZR1 is a hole lot more affordable to own and maintain. The Porsche is not.
@@IPGAuto You obviously never owned a Corvette nor did you ever drive one before you everyone knows you can daily a Corvette. The ZR1 is WAY faster on the track than the 911, your argument about getting groceries is ridiculous because the ZR1 is more practical with bigger trunk space. Also, the ZR1 and all Corvettes are great riding cars for everyday driving if you'd like and the ZR1 gets 20mpg if your not flooring it and at the same time has a bullet proof engine and if anything goes wrong with the car it won't cost you an arm & leg to fix it.
@@IPGAuto Consumer reports is garbage. If you're going off consumer reports from a bunch of owners who garage keep their cars and then claim its reliable you have a lot to learn. Your average chevy, toyota, honda whatever brand owner is actually going to use their car which is exactly why any reports on reliability are going to be skewed. Are you going to compare Ferrari reliability ratings to an average Toyota next?
@@d1sturb3d119 - Well, how is it garbage since CONSUMERS aka OWNERS are the ones reporting it lol, who else are you supposed to ask?
The Corvette is an old model. It's been around since the early 60's. And yes, it has been competing with Porches ever since. For the fraction of the price of many higher end 911 models, the Corvette Z06 and ZR1 outperforms them pretty easily. America's Sports Car has also set many ALMS records for the most wins. And these series include Porches too.
Amen to that! True enthusiasts doesn't get caught up in brand loyalty or fanboyism. A great car is a great car, plain and simple. I love them all! :)
Agreed
The algorithm is bringing me back to the glory days
Yess indeed!
zr1 all day
yo mama all day
no, just a couple of miles, and then a gas station till you are broke.
@@sparrowinarmor you know nothing about anything automotive if you think that the chevy ls will break down more than a 911. Dont speak on things you know nothing
@@okaydudes lol i but that vette is still on the road or got rapped around a pole by a kid
@@okaydudes Learn some english dude. I didn't say anything about the car breaking.
God damn the zr1 makes you feel amazing listening to the pushrod v8 scream like a god with thunder and lightning crashing!!!! DAMN i love that car.
The Corvette is one amazing car, imagine pounding the 911 turbo around the track, better braking, etc etc for less $. Today with gen 3 magnetic ride control, improved handling dynamics, totally new chassis and are the Z06 absolutely destroys cars costing several multiples of its price, hats off to Chevrolet...exotics, the new bench mark is better in every way, wonder if any competitor can match the Vette. I absolutely love my 2015 Z51, it does everything you would expect perfectly and even returns great fuel mileage, GM, well done.
I heard Corvette is making a Mid Engine Super car soon, can't wait!!
oh how well this aged
12:10-13:10 omg i dont have enough words to explain how badass that was. gotta give the driver some credit too he was bangin them gears like a pro. maybe the car made him seem fast but whatever it was awesome sounding and looking from my point of view. the best word to describe it is DAMN!!!!!
He is a pro
@@user-mm2bz5pf9y I've also heard several times that the 2010 and after ZR1 had no lift shift, meaning you just hit the clutch and change the gear while continuing to floor it.
That chevy v8 sounds beauty.
The ZR1 is AMAZING! Well done GM!
Hahahahahahaha "bUt mY gErmmAn iNtErior is sUpErioR"
Corvette speedo said 200 mph
Yea while you Porsche fan boys are staring at your interior the Corvette is blowing by you.
i love both of these cars, awesome vid
sound: corvette looks: corvette track performance: corvette pure domination.
***** the only thing the 911 does better than the vette is break down.
Interior: porsche Feel: porsche off the line: porsche
torogami2 interior: porsche Feel:chevy off the line: chevy
***** Have you ever heard the rumbling V8 engine sound of a Ford GT or ZR1?
:o i aint no altimgamr, i am the reverse ok, and the ford gt is shit, corvette is better
Its a beast ! I have a 2010 ZR1 and love it
Both are fantastic cars and each motivates one another towards perfection
Altimgamr is a zr1 fan.. He comments on every single zr1 video
Lol I was his biggest enemy back then. He's a piece of KZhead car history. Biggest gtr and porsche fanboy
thats funny the porsche broke in the end......american junk huh ?? corvette is just bad ass
Nice review :-) I had a 2001 Z06 and it was a very dependable car. Very fast and fun car, drive what you like and can afford and stop bashing car you will never touch in your life.
I had a 98 Convertible and a bunch of Caddy's and BMW's since then - and I couldn't agree more. It's amazing all the welfare trash that think their opinion on cars means something, meanwhile they drive a ragged out used Ford Escort.
altimgamr......you troll too hard kid. You try and spam everyone here so that you're the only one able to comment on the video. This only proves the fact that you are a troll. So spam away, it's only a matter of time before Google+ finds you and gives you a permaban. There are way too many video's, posts, blogs, reviews, etc that proves that the Z06 & ZR1 is a faster car around the track than the GT-R. We all know that the GT-R is a great car, so is the Z06 and ZR1. Now grow up or get out. Now notice, I still didn't use any profanity against you, nor did I give you any derogatory remarks. I'm sure you're going to try and spam me out with your 8+ accounts as well. Keep at it troll, the Google+ mods will be after you soon enough.
Corvette...... a legend. king of the hill
Lol god your head to head videos have gotten so much better
While the interior is low rent, the car itself is a technical masterpiece. Also the Corvette is loved around the world, not just in the United States.
Wow 12:10 - 12:20 the ZR1 seems to accelerate while shifting up all the time :D I love the sound by the way :)
The fact that the Corvette is always in these "battles" is the price. Signifigantly lower than the rest, but beating on the door. For that alone, gives the Corvette an economical advantage.
why do so many people underestimate and question the quality and performance of the zr1
C6 is the best corvette, that wide body looks so good and the way it sounds sheeeesh
i am impressed with the development of the american performanc ecars over the last 15 years. was about time to get on par with the european competition. greetings from germany
No,... No no no. We are not on par with you. We are kicking your ass!!
***** on par with the Europeans? Ha don't make me laugh
you are really stupid the veyron doesn't barely beat it it humilates it. And it not just speed its built quality and engineering know how. Look at the mustang still has a live real axle, the last time that was on a car in europe was 35 + years ago
you guys realy comparing a handfull build showcase cars with a mass produced serial performance car?? this discussion is pointless especialy when it comes to pricetag. ofc the tires and weels of a 400km/h + fast car are VERRY expensive, especialy after they are only produced in verry small numbers. and ofc they wont last long under the extreem conditions. the veyron is not the competition of a corvett. the veyron is not the competition of ANY car, its a tech demo of a company that sayd : look whats possible if you ignore cost. by the way, the veyron would lose a race on the nurburg ring vs the corvett or the porsche or ferari or even the nissan gtr. thats where the comprtition of the corvett is: massproduced sportscars like the porsche and ferari and the nissan and here you see that the corvett is in the same league and has a suprisingly low pricetag for its performance. thats the most markable thing, in history the us carcompanys refused to build performance cars beyond pure acceleration ability, they refused to considder the concept that underlies the european cars. the definition of what a sports car is and what he need to do where totaly different and therefor the produced cars where nowhere compareable. the 2latest corvetts ARE compareable, they are constructed folowing similar demands on ability and driving performance and they are doing great.
@wolfmatt when i check the placing at le mans or look up nurburgring times i dont see any domestics at the top?
Both cars are excellent, and any enthusiast would be elated to own either. Sincerely, A GM engineer who loves Porsches
Can someone put a LS9 in the C8 please?😁
: D I'm certain they ran the car to 200, but the actual standing mile happened at 177. That's consistent with pretty much every test I've seen. Matt Farrah recently done it all day long at that speed. Consistent! Also, american reliability FTW. Porsches typically don't break, so kudos GM.
Driven both, loved both but ended up buying the ZR1 simply because I had more fun driving it
He smiled more driving the vette...
The Z06 is a more fair race. The ZR1 is a competitor for the GT2 rs which has 600hp. They always do this though. It's usually a Carrera of some sort vs. much faster cars. Rarely is a turbo tested, and almost never is anything compared to a GT2 RS. Not saying the GT2 is better, just that they would be a closer match. Why not the fastest Vette vs the fastest 911?
As far as price comparison, this is as fair as the race can be. The Porsche is MUCH more expensive than the Vette and still lost in most categories. In fact, put slicks on the Vette and the Porsche would lose in every category.
John Jones Nothing wrong with either car but you are making an invalid point. Saying add this and that is pointless because if we add slicks to the Vette, we can add slicks to the GT2 RS and still beat the vette. Just like we could add this and that to this car and that to beat this car and that. Stock for stock, the GT2 RS is better in EVERY category EXCEPT gas mileage. I am not saying that the Vette is bad at all. In fact, I love the ZR-1 but my point is its performance rival would be the GT2 RS. In this video, the Vette is more dominate because of my first point. What if we compared the Turbo to the Z06? The ZO6 would lose in all categories. As for price, the Porsche 912 is literally about 350,000 cheaper than the McLaren P1. Their performance is in the same class and thats why they are rivals.
Joshua Walls Actually, a 2015 Z06 beats the GT@ RS in EVERY SINGLE CATEGORY. Fact.
The new GT2 RS hasn't been released yet. Now you are comparing different gen cars Lol. When the new GT2 RS comes out then it vs the C7 will be relevant. By then, the ZR1 will be released and the two beasts can battle it out.
We'll see.
This video is still getting views 5 and a half years later.
Even 9 years later
10!
11
just gotta love an enjoy the sound coming from that ZR1
Lucky there was no "sound" test because that Chevy made that Porsche sound like a fucking Prius
I personally like Porsche better than the corvette so I might be a little biased but not on purpose. This is actually really surprising the corvette won on track when you would assume the Porsche would win with it's nice handling while the Corvette lost with its incredible acceleration in the drag race. I guess now in 2016 its different than back in 2010. Wow. All in all 2 great cars 2 great company's.
At these price points it's still the same story 😂
13:03 that looks like it says 195MPH to me, how'd you get 177?!
JediMindTricks183 I think they were measuring the speed at 1 mile. The top speed was 195, but was over the mile mark.
Scott Spears wrong! the speed in the dashboard is never accurate! on the dashboard was 195 but the real speed that you can find only by a GPS sistem was, like it showed, 177 mph
+Alexandru Boghean So, all those speeding tickets I got should be thrown because my speedo is inaccurate? Good to know.
+JediMindTricks183 The ZR1 covered the mile in 29.8 seconds. There are 5,280 feet in a mile. 5280/29.8 =177.181.
Wrong equation. You calculated average speed in feet per second. After converting your answer into mph it was 120.805.
I am the proud owner of a 2010 ZR1. One of the things, big things, all these challenges omit is reliability. I still have 6 months on my 3/36 warranty and 2.5 years on my 5/100,000 mile warranty. Why doesn't Porsche, Ferrari, others have a warranty? Reliability. I have a 638 hp motor that GM has guaranteed will last 100K miles.
would love to see a vid of the z06 vs the gt2 rs on the green hell....motor trend...arrange that!!
The mighty ZR!
I've always loved the 911 and Porsche but you have to give props to Chevy .They've come a long way .This car is a fabulous car from top to bottom.
Billy Bob, what will you do with your lotto winnings? "I"m gonna buy a Green Vette and a bowling alley!
Wow. I really was not expecting that.
ahhh yes the sweet sound of that v8
Damn straight it did. Chevy built the ZR1 w/o any Euro help, Chevy & Caddy pioneered MRC, which Ferrari bought the tech for, and the ZR1 completely laid down those impressive Ring numbers w/o the need for massive media stunt events like Porsche does. Youre right: ZR1 deserves every praise because for the performance, the ZR1 is doing what mega-expensive euro cars 4x the cost are doing. ZR1 proves you dont have to spend $500K to get the same performance. Right on Bro, the ZR1 has all my respect
Just looked it up, things a beast. Keep in mind, this comparison was done in 2010. Was there a 620hp GT2 RS 3 years ago?
this is a great vid..Not only was the driver surpised by how fast the zr1 is but also how well it handles the high speed corners.Plus the driver mentioned a couples times how well the zr1 handled the big bump compared to the 911.. Beating a 911 by almost 4 seconds is crazy,just shows how good the ZR1 is..well done chevy
i mean it has 638hp against the 475hp of the turbo. That is GT2 territory
Its irrelevant on that kind of track. The 911 has the advantange with all wheel drive on a technical track. The ZR1 is just the better performing car.
god damn, a 2011 tubo with just 500bhp did 60 in 3s?!
Torque is your friend.
mazin2892 the ZR-1 was made in 2009 as well. Both really amazing cars for their time.
Actually all wheel drive is your friend
4 Wheel drive. The Porker can put all its power to all the wheels and with the acceleration weight transfer to an already heavy rear end, it has enormous grip - aided of course by electronics moving the torque between the front and rear wheels to stop wheel spin. The ZR1 has a shitload more of torque and horsepower but its only a rear drive car. If you noticed on the standing starts, the slip regulation for the rear tyres is stopping the full amount of power available going to the rear wheels. But once past the point where the torque cannot overcome tyre grip, then the ZR1 simply will say goodbye to the Porker.
mazin2892 AWD.
No exhaust. Sounds like a Vacuum 1:38
Everybody talks about the new Corvette 🙄 like its a big deal,but there's something to be said about the "old-fashioned" front-engine layout of the previous generations.
911TT...both turbos failed (lol)!?!? More likely the 911TT folks knew the ZR1 would destroy it in the standing mile. Vette ruled on the track too. New king of the hill!
These are not supercars. They're just really powerful sports cars. Also, you should have used a Turbo S with the carbon brakes instead of a regular turbo. That was somewat unfair choosing a top of the line limited production Corvette and going with a standard Turbo.
Oh how dare they take the $120,000 ZR1 (not a limited production Corvette - simply a trim level you can select) and pit it up against a $150,000 Porsche. You're right, they should have pitted it against a $160,000+ Porsche. Do you honestly think carbon brakes would have mattered (rhetorical questions, of course you do)? They let the cars cool down between runs. Brakes aren't the issue. Even with more power, the 911 Turbo S can't touch the ZR1. This is a poor track to do tests on. So many slow corners that favor AWD (yet the ZR1 was still faster by nearly 4 seconds). The fastest 911 they've ever tested around Laguna is 4+ seconds slower than the NON-STICKY TIRE ZR1. The sticky-tired ZR1 is 2 seconds faster than that. That's a 6 second gap. 911 Turbo S with carbon ceramics...still slower than Z06, let alone ZR1.
lys1395 GT2 rs
Porsche turbos failed = EPIC FAIL. Four second drubbing on track = EPIC FAIL. Straight line test = duh, 4wd & 1/4 mile go hand in hand. I'll take the ZR1 and put $35k into tuning and this isn't even a discussion $ for $. ZR1 wins hands down.
AND the ZR1 does 10.6 sec in the quarter mile with drag radials. which is the only way the drag race would be fair against a 4wd
The rivalry between Corvette and Porsche will never get old
How can you compare a car with ceramic brakes (ZR1) to the steel on the 911?
The days of the powerful refined German sport cars are numbered. Even the reliability is also over.The world have changed. Unless you want to pay extra for more than already over priced. $$$$$ The game have changed. Charging more $ doesn't mean getting more. Lol
Amazing... I'm surprised the Porsche didn't just spontaneously burst into flames while idling...
You are thinking Ferrari.
Glad I'm getting both.
even with the wheelspin its still accelerating very rapidly it hits 100kph in 1st gear with ease.. goes to 60mph in 1st
The ZR1 would be faster in a straight line if it had all wheel drive but that's not american lol. Look at the trap speeds though thats what really shows it. The porsche is a full half of a second quicker to 60 in their test and runs a better quarter mile by .3 seconds but is faster on the trap speed. If the race was a full mile or even a half mile the porsche would have no chance. Plus the ZR1 is faster around the figure 8, has better lateral acceleration
If the ZR1 was AWD it would be much slower around the track because if it's weight
true porsche fans make fun of awd porsche owners. hahaha
Well the zr1 has 138 more hp. She should pick on something her own size. If the horsepower were even it would be 911 all the way
Porsche looks like a beetle car, who wants to drive that!? Corvette for life!
I do believe the Vette was in racing trim so it should be quicker but I do notice the GT2RS in standard set up for the road was 2 secs quicker than the Vette with a smaller engine & smaller BHP output... Rest my case really.
I love Corvettes but who would know that a Porsche broke lol. The ZR1 is great but my love for the C6 Z06 with that big 7 liter LS7 is just insane.
The corvette is for sure the faster car in all it have 138 HP more than Porsche 500 HP flat 6 and it beat it on track how impressive. In a standing mile zr1 for sure faster. So speed wise corvette faster just a tab slow getting to 100 kph ( 62 mph ) of 3.5 seconds to Porsche flat 3.0 seconds dead.
That's due to traction
Not really it was the fact that car car was able to go around better and faster it a whole lot more than just traction.
I was commenting about 0-60 being slower only due to less traction on take off
Porsche engine in back helps with traction
Elgixxer2006 still spun the rear but prob in the programming
Nice kill for the vette.
Are they still making the ZR1? If so what's the latest one?
Not currently. The last ZR1 was the C6 2013 model. On the release of the new C7, there was no mention of a ZR1. Around late September there emerged some chatter of a ZR1 for 2017, putting it in the "rumor" stage. But it's no ordinary rumor. There's serious talk of finally seeing the first mid-engined Corvette supercar.
1is4being A mid engine Corvette? That would be something. Anyway, with so many 'vettes' I wasn't too sure which was which from C06, Z06, Z51 etc. I knew about the ZR1 because of its giant killer performance. So the latest and hottest is the C7 Z06.Is that right? Thanks:-)
ianrkav yes, the C7 Z06
As soon as i heard jonny's voice.. pause, comment, and now to hit back and find a different video. Find a car reviewer that fits the car-guy profile.
the 911 sound is shit
Keyser Soze you are shit!!! Did you hear an 911 in real life?
the ZR1 is just AMAZING!!! :O
"Racing trim"?? Where did you get that b.s. from??
The corvette winds simply on LOOOKS. it looks a BILLION times better. Don’t even get me started on the sound.
Tire chirp into third lol
@iwasadeum I totally believe it's fast, and probably handles very well! It sounds like a beast, But, GM supercars should include interior luxuries, too. I'd love a ZR1 if I could ever afford one, don't get me wrong, but the build quality could be better.
Why do you like them over the ZR1? ZR1 is manual and RWD? I have driven Subbies and an Evo once and AWD is cool but I thought it was boring kind of in its own way.
So I was a little bit off in my post from yesterday involving the Cadillac CTS - V that's about to be released in 2016. I said the car had 580HP and was going to cost $60k USD. Turns out the car has 640HP, 630 ft Lbs of torque and is going to cost around $65-75k depending on the trim level. It has a carbon and leather wrapped interior, premium Bose speakers, Brembo brakes, magnetic ride control carbon accents throughout the exterior Nd a 100k miles warranty. If you haven't seen the car I suggest you search it. It's beautiful and shows the capabilities of GM. So here are the German cars that will compete with the CTS-V. Audi RS-5 starts at 72k and has a 430HP V8 engine. Nice little car but sacrificing over 200hp and 50k miles on the warranty doesn't exactly seem like better engineering. It also weighs roughly 100 pounds more than the CTS-V. The BMW M4 starts at $64k USD and can get up there if you want to start adding options. You get the standard run of the mill 425 HP V8 engine and outdated BMW driving manners, ride qualities and features. They also offer half the warranty. I don't remember the last time I've heard good things come from this company. They have nearly given up. Now it's hard to find a proper Mercedes to fit the 75-80k dollar price point. The $65k starting e400 only makes 325HP while the 550HP E63 AMG starts right around $100k. Mercedes is the one German luxury manufacturer that I actually respect. They give what you'd expect from a 80-100k dollar car. Audi and BMW just try to ride the German wave. The point is that the American Engineers found a way to make the CTS -V more stylish, more powerful, handle better, last longer and cost less than their German counterparts while also using the same high quality materials. Just imagine what GM could do with a 200k dollar budget for the vette. I have no doubt that it would be better in everyway then the laferrari or P1 while sacrificing nothing! Does any car manufacturer have more resources then GM? Don't think so
Corvette working mans sports car the Porsche is better built but it is also a lot more to maintain I work on my vette myself what a great simple car..
I'm a diehard Ford guy...but the Corvette is just awesome and you're right it is a working man's car...
+Aaron Jones its all about giving credit were credit is due I own a Camaro but the mustang will always be king of the muscle cars its the original and it will always be legendary
+DustinCorvetteZr1 what?
+Justin Pino He's right you know
Porsche better built.....it blew both turbos here?!?! LOL. Tempermental divas euros are....
I'd argue that American car engineering is the best in the world. The problem with the american car companies was that for a while, the accountants had entirely too much say. It was bad business, not bad engineering. The fact of the matter is, GM, Ford and Chrysler are back on top. The 100k dollar zo6 equipped with the z07 package will out perform anything sub 1 mil while giving you the same carbon and leather encrusted interior, advanced creature comforts and even some that the others don't offer. The vette isn't the only American car that has rose to the top either. Just look at the recent cars the mighty Americans have released. GM, Ford and dodge now give us the most diversity along the product line while VW, BMW, Porsche and Audi all fade to the back of the pack offering much of the same. What would you rather have, a 65k dollar Audi with no more than 350hp or a 580hp Cadillac CTS-v? What if I told you that the Cadillac has to some degree a nicer interior, corners better, has better brakes, is more reliable and has a better warranty? Would anyone argue that the Cadillac was the better car that is also engineered to a higher standard? American engineers are the worlds best. Our free and prosperous market allows the country to operate at cheaper rates while not compromising anything in terms of R and D, performance, and reliability. Ask yourself what Chevrolet could build if they had the budget of a Mercedes or Porsche. Remember, the best German, Japanese and Scandinavian engineers come to America to put that knowledge to use. America will always be the engineering Mecca and the American Car companies have kept that tradition going once again. Like it or not, GM is leading the charge
Not even a close comparison. The Porsche is a a straight line monster, but the ZR1 is better performer.
The C6 Z06 and ZR1 are no joke. Beast mode
2002 lingenfelter TT Corvette. 0-60 in 1.97sec
***** that car is 10 years newer and AWD.
***** Atomic Fusion Corvette 1/4 6.8 sec @ 222.80 mph ( 358.8 km/h )
***** There is a video of him picking up his daughter in it.
***** You have obviously not seen the video.
***** You do realize that there are 6 second cars running on street legal drag radials. I know you don't get out much and this is your main source of information, but feel free to search for them.
Love the zr1
Amen!
/watch?v=JV99NA1GCIw and btw "The Ring" production car times Corvette Zr1 7:19.63 set in 2011 Dodge Viper ACR 7:22.1 set in 2008 Corvette Z06 7:22.68 set in 2011 GTR 7:24.22 set in 2010 Corvette ZR1 7:26.4 set in 2008 GTR 7:26.70 set in 2009 Porsche Carrera GT 7:28.0 2004 GTR 7:29.03 set in 2008 Porsche 911 GT3 RS 997MkII 7:33 Lexus LFA 7:38 Ferrari 458 Italia 7:38 Camaro ZL1 (2012) 7:41.27 Lamborgini Gallardo Superleggera 7:46 Nissan 350Z 8:26 Chevrolet Cobalt SS Turbo 9:02
The point that's rubbed the wrong way is a declaration that there's no American sports car that can compete with European automobiles, and that's simply not the case as demonstrated here. Price can be debated over any aspect of any car but it all boils down to intrinsic value: what am I willing to pay to drive any car. National pride, especially these types of forums, run deep, and most side likewise. When they compete however, we all win. When statements turn ridiculous with statements that American can't build a sports car that can compete with their foreign counterparts, I take umbrage, it's simply not true. SSC made no bones about it as they put record breaking numbers with the production of the Ultimate Aero, followed up by the world class domination of the Tuatara. Not enough? Add the likes of Hennessy's viper, the ford GT, including the soon to be released 2016 GT from ford and arguments stating European dominance are just silly. Now, enter an American car, that's mass produced and has all the numbers and data backing it up favorably against European cars as well as real world head to head testing where a Corvette is taking down the elite European cars, and all of a sudden there's cries heard all across the Internet and sobs coming from Europe. The scales haven't tipped, they've been completely knocked down by American cars excelling in areas Europeans aren't used to, they feel threatened (with just cause) that the motoring world is now turned on its end and the cars at the top when the dust settles are American. Don't mourn your loss though, cheer for the competition between these car manufacturers, we all win.
Very well said
Harikarikillboy This is the only American sports car that can compete with European sports cars.
bighands69 ..............and your point is???????????
Bighands: seriously? Ever hear of Hennessy? SSC Ultimate aero? SSC tuatara? Saleen? Shelby cobra? Panoz? Dodge Viper? Ford Mustang GT500? Ford GT? europe has some very nice cars, no argument there. Be as silly as you'd like, but you're cars have been judged and found lacking compared to cars I've listed. Climb in a hole, cover your ears, shut your mouth and open your eyes, the blur you see is the American cars dominating the best europe has to offer. You're dismissed, schools over.
Harikarikillboy2174 Hennessey? Panoz? SSC? Mustang? Viper? Ford GT? LOL trash.
also the vette beat the porsche around the track by more than 3 seconds
They really should ban comments for car vids.
Why would they do that??? Then ***** wouldn't have anywhere to go. :-)
Porsche is a great car but buy the Turbo only as I here non turbo Porsches break down. Just cause this Turbo broke down doesn't mean it's garbage all cars break down parts are parts and things wear out. The c6z06 corvette has valve guide issues and lots have dropped valves having less than 30000 Kms on the car. So is the vette junk no. Just fix the issue and the cars great. I have had 4 corvettes and loved them all. This time I bought a turbo Porsche. It's great I must say the quality and build is exactly up to par. You have to drive one to know how good of a car it really is. The vettes wear you out and the Porsche is like you just don't wanna stop driving it. I love it it's a nice change. Try one out then post about it. I just drove a 997 turbo one month ago first time and it was like nothing I ever drove. Absolutely amazing car.
Cruise Mansfield Non turbo 996s are generally less reliable, others not so much.
No, turbos strain the engine and also turbo it self is prone to failure.
+vlad bilyy Just buy a 997.1, dont buy 997.2, they cheaped out on the engine in the .2