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All falls on or off the track are awful, for horse and rider. However, the music track with this was EXTREMELY AWFUL.
Having horses that close to each other is just looking for trouble. I ride, but I would NEVER race any horse like this.
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You obviously known very little about horse racing . Racing in a pack is what makes it possible to keep your position without having to steer the horse constantly. If you left plenty of space on either side, your mount would float naturally. Being constantly on the horse's mouth, with your legs squizzzing firmly the horse's sides is incompatible with the motion forward as a lot of stress is put on the horse's system. Racing is about relaxing your horse as he travels so he unwinds and oxygenated his muscles well. Thus finishing quicker and longer when asked to in the home run. There are a few more advantages related being up close such as keeping your self and your horse clear from kickbacks such as muscle, or all water sand and stuff. There's a lot to be learned before opening one's mouth and talk a lot of bullshit.
Special trained horses and to be a Jockey you have to learn and its their job!!! They are not you!!!
@@christophedallaporta8836 the horses are just collateral damage ? and what about the jockeys?the sport of kings pffft
Get off the weed now.... you're miles away from reality !
Is it bad that I tear up when I see a racehorse go down, but I laugh a little when I see a horseless jockey flying through the air? Nahhh.
very
XD
@@teamzemin1268 Sorry, not sorry. :)
@@teamzemin1268 not at all, the humans deserve it, the horses dont
absolutely it is bad
Y the hyped up music most of these horses probably died or got seriously injured
Because these numbskulls think death and critical injury is entertainment.
Какая разница какая музыка господи
God bless the horses
Ikr that’s what I thought and the riders as well though
@@Leah_ytGaming not the riders, screw the riders.
I think #5 was the worst because it was completely that jockeys fault. He let his horse get to close behind the other horse and it got him tripped. It could have very easily been prevented and jockeys know better.
Such upbeat music for all of those trampled horses.
Watching it makes me cry
I was at Hollywood Park that day, we had shipped in for a race. Did you know 5 of the 6 horses had to be destroyed? (Broken legs, broken necks and backs) the horse on the lead broke left front cannon bone and shattered his shoulder. The music seems to be a bit too jolly for the situation at hand.
Elizabeth Ferguson hope you don’t go to races anymore!
The horse in green (I don't know the number) flew completely into the air. Do you know what happened to that horse? It looked super bad.
you mean killed? its not a bike it was alive lol
@@mindfuqq yes, euthanized, killed, destroyed, put down, different terms same results. Any questions? You "LOL" your statement? Go get your meds, you needs help. What an idiot...."LOL"
how can you say destroyed like it wasnt a living animal u heartless bitch
Why do you have to play the floor is lava that’s insulting
Agreed OP THIS IS NOT A VIDEO GAME THESE ARE HUMAN BEINGS! DONT DEHUMANIZE THE SITUATION IT HAPPENS ENOUGH IN RACING.
YEAH, falling off them feels like.. I don’t even want to explain !
Because you don't wabt fall on floor
Melania MoneyPenny he’s talking about the music chill
@@silverkitty2503 Couldn't agree more!!
Horse racing fails are horrifying oml
wxd0w
Yep.
Horse racing itself is horrifying.
Home Account please do actual research.
@@smwmodelhorses5477 I will feel myself an idiot if I'll answer you.
1:37 number 3 didn’t go down.. incredible
And he was the favorite. I think he was the only finisher,yes ?
Bill Brower from the looks of it he was the only one not to fall
That was a really good save. Horse was very nimble-footed too
Sod the jockeys, there were at least half a dozen DEAD horses there!
One big issue is how close the horses are to each other. One trips and more trip over the first. If jockeys kept the horses further apart, one fall wouldn’t put the rest at risk
Yet another ignorant remark by someone who knows fk all about racing
They wouldn’t dare to keep them farther apart. They only want the money.
Imagine the absolute carnage that a cavalry charge would have caused
Absolutely
gee that is so relevant
@@margaretretk6508 You wouldn’t get it
@@danielmoncaster3216
2:43 he went FLYING Jesus 🤭
That horse took a heart attack b4 hitting the wall. That's wat made him veer violently left into the wall. Jockey was ok tho.
shaneymac 83 that’s all that matters then isn’t it. Fuck the jockey!
MissyB 75 Why fuck the jockey? You're clueless
@@missyb9438 Okay so I see that you are one of those people that think "Poor people! who cares about the horses?". but I have no idea why people like you are watching horse videos if you don't care about horses.
MissyB 75 it was not the jockeys fault. A horse can take a heart attack in a paddock.
I was like he doesn’t even care that his horse died
It’s so sad that such great horses are wasted like this
They’ve literally been bred for this exact thing for several hundred years.
@@lordfarquard9902 and? Doesn’t mean it’s good for them
I mean horse racing is kinda wasting horse
It's the reason they're born it's either this or nothing
@@zaczac744 actually no, tb’s can have successful careers in plenty of other disciplines
Amazing how you can see the jockeys being toss around like dummies lol
I hate horse racing but sometimes they make a story like Seabiscuit and other Horses
I don‘t want to know how it feels when a horse breaks down under your saddle...
I was at a horse show and a horse broke its leg right in front of me. I remember running into the ring to hold the horse. It didn't go down, it just snapped and the horse stopped and stood there trembling. The announcer didn't know what was happening and just kept saying that we needed to clear the arena. Finally someone told the announcer that the horse had a broken leg and the guy shut up. This was many many years ago and I can't remember much past that moment. I remember being so horrified. Thankfully it never happened to me while I was riding. That was close enough!
Not a top 5 of jockey falls without Adrian Maguire being trapped under Hatcham Boy, while 2 horses rolled over the top of them. Thankfully horse ok, I looked after him, Adrian had a broken leg, happened on the final bend at Ascot in a novice hurdle race in 1995. I watched it happen on a small screen on the lads stand, then watched the replay on BBC parents had recorded. Remember it vividly, dealing with horse, 2 hours in the vets box, before being cleared to take him home, the other option was to take him to vets surgery just down the road for monitoring. Shows the care and attention given to the horses, not immediately put the horse down. Though the vet did say that was his first thought and had the gun cocked and ready, Hatcham Boy got up and kicked a dent in the bonnet of his car before galloping down the course, vet chased after him in his car, I'd caught Hatcham Boy by this point, vet came straight to me and took us into vets box, where Jeremy the travelling head lad joined us. All the others were busy with stewards, owners and other horses, so Nick Skelton the Olympic show jumping individual gold medalist was running round with messages
Just fail to mention number 3 the horse died of a heart attack. Only actual jockey fall was number 2. Rest the poor horses paid with their lives. Death sport 💔
Watching this video stirs up a mix of emotions. Heartbreaking to watch these beautiful animals get injured. On the other hand, its absolutely hilarious watching these little squirt horse jockeys somersaulting through the air.
This happens very rarely at races, but it still happens. I hope these horses and jockeys were ok.
The horse at the grand national this year had to be put down (I think) after another horse tripped over it on the first hurdle. It possibly broke it's back as it squirmed to get up even though it couldn't. It had a laceration as well so I think the other horse kicked it and broke it's back
Sickening to see, just horrid
Well. The 5th and 4th both dark bays broke their knees. The 3rd had a major aneurism or heart attack, he was dead before he hit the wall. Any reaction that such horrific spills come at the cost of multiple horses lives?
Elizabeth Ferguson
Ohmygod😭😱 I hate horse racing people need to stop this from happening.. so many horse and jockeys lose their lives🤧❤
Elizabeth Ferguson the 3rd one wasn’t anyone’s fault no one can predict a heart attack
What in hell do you think happens to the vast majority of retired race horses? Because they are now unsuitable for human consumption they are put into a new use being turned into your favorite pet's food . Their fat is turned into oil farmers run their tractors with. That's the world we live in. If you don't known what to do with yourself, some one somewhere has an answer .
@@christophedallaporta8836 you are not correct. Every race run in the US collects a percentage of the purse that is distributed thru the local HBPA and funds the retired race horse program. All tattooed (now microchipped) JC (Jockey Club) registered TB is eligible for these funds. They are rehabbilitated, rehomed to go onto their next career. Very very very few go into the slaughter pipeline. The ones who do slip thru did not come off the track into auctions. They are people who get a cheap horse but have little to no knowledge of husbandry and quit. Selling the horse to unscrupulous kill buyers. I'm 4th generation in the racing industry and have been placing OTTB's (that's off track Thoroughbreds) for 46 years now. I don't have to "look it up" I live it daily.
*Horses and riders dying and getting grievously injured* The roblox tycoon music playing in the background:
It's a sick business, I tell ya.... *pukes*.
it's not the whole business you can see around race time the horses get excited and their are really nice people and trainers in the industry.
That horse that stumbled sideways and then fell. I heard that horse had a heart attack.
It doesn't have to be a heart attack .race horses hearts are very strong. I'd rather say brain shutdown. I've seen it a few times . It usually happens as you turn off the engine past the post. The horse is set into a walk . Then all of a sudden, he reaches for the sky before crashing down the ground. Every sport is the same : behind the joy of the happy few on the day , a lot of hard work that doesn't lead anywhere, and a fair few broken bones. Over the course of time, my way of looking at it has somewhat changed for the "not so happy with it." I think that we humans are a little bit crazy.
Poor horses
WHO THINKS THAT?? ARE YOU LIKE A SOCIOPATH??? THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THOSE HORSES? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?
And oh yeah i hope the horses are ok ...AFTER THE PEOPLE!
@@silverkitty2503 The horses had worse falls.
Melania MoneyPenny Don’t you dare say that those people are more important than animals. These animals were dragged into doing this, and got hurt in the process. The people made their own decisions.
Melania MoneyPenny what is wrong with you?
I feel bad for the horses who have noooo choice but to race
Great soundtrack lol don't mind seeing jockeys getting made piss ..hate seeing horses hurt though
2:03 He did a heart attack this poor horse..
I don't care about the jockey, they have one vote. The horses are the abused and violently trained, forced to run the horses are the poor ones who often lose their lives through serious injuries or collapse or broken legs. The jockeys are not interested in this are Horse abusers in my Opinion. The Jockeys know the Danger the Horses are forced by beatings etc.
Every one of those horses that fell died. Especially the one that ran off the track and snapped its neck into the wall...just horrible
This is some high quality backing music for people getting fucking destroyed.
Totally agree re: the sensational music, people and horses getting destroyed! I'd rather watch an actual dressage jumping hurdles instead of this crap!
@@prairieroseranch5241 you mean killed they are not motocylcles lol
@@prairieroseranch5241 then why did you watch? You'd rather watch show horses? Why would you purposefully tune into a video that is overtly titled "racing wrecks"? Cross country and stadium jumping has their fair share of euthanized horses due to catastrophic injuries. Most aren't put down on the field but vanned back away from spectators eyes.
"Top 5 Worst Jockeys Falls". THAT is why he, and many others, watched it. We get to see jockeys suffer (at least, a little bit) for what they've put the horses through. It's not total justice or else the trainers and the owners would be put in equal amounts of agony, but it's better than nothing. Yes, stadium jumping and cross country do have severe injuries occur, but by the same token, their riders are shredded with grief when such an unfortunate event happens. Every step to prevent such events is taken, from waiting until they've sufficient bone density to start them, to carefully planned diets, to supervised play time, and even turned out with pasture boots unlike their cousins, the racetrack bred Thoroughbred.
Well I only feel bad for the horses they are already mistreated so this is just terrible
How? you dont know anything, you think that whip hurts them like it would you? the pain threshold is actually compared to you being flicked by a pen!
Barry Parkes they are mistreated and I don't know where you heard that but ya NO
I heard that from working in a stable myself, I look after 25+ race horses so I know more than you..
Barry Parkes Horses feel pain just as much if not more than humans. They feel when a fucking fly is on them. There are also pictures of dead muscle on the horse's hip or shoulder after being whipped. The muscle literally dies. Horses do feel pain. Their pain receptors are just under their skin. And cleaning out stalls and brushing horses doesn't mean you know everything. I have seen a comment where you said you are a vet. So I guess you are just lying here, you probably don't even work anywhere near horses. Also, if whipping a horse didn't hurt them, then tell me why I have seen videos of horses being whipped and then they flinch, jump, buck, rear etc because it hurts them.
@@barryparkes1393 your a fucking liar...no person who works with racehorses talks like that. Anyway which stable and why the fucķ didnt you report it if you care that much. If you did repoert cruelty to who and who did you report....????
2.35 the jockey though😂😂
For every male or female jockey around the world, next race can be the last one. And like American Hall of Fame jockey Mike Smith said once "If you don´t win, you´re not paid" Regards from venezuela.
If you in Venezuela, then you are probably EATING all the horses down there!!!
it should be your last race, racing is abuse!!
tbh horse racing is one of my fav equestrian sports, but the industry is pretty awful. horse racing would be a lot better (fewer losses of life both equine and human, better quality of life in general for the horses, etc) if they just made a few adjustments. but it's controlled by greedy people, so these types of things will likely continue to happen. :/
I agree
R the horses ok...the one that ran into the wall I did not see moving after that
Usually when horses get heart attacks they dont survive..
which one?
Hit that iron/steal rail first. That had to hurt.
Number two!!!!!!!!! OUCH
Most of them snapped their neck and well yes, they died
On the 4th one that number 3 did beautifully to stay on
Poor horses! Humans are clueless when it comes to the care of horses. Every day is a Black Beauty day.
The one in video #3 (the one that veered a hard left) likely had a brain aneurysm that caused that. I've only seen that happen a handful of times but odd behavior like that is usually a sign of brain aneurysms.
its natures way like it or lump it
@@teamzemin1268 I understand that, I was just explaining to people what happened.
I couldn't agree more. I known a stable lad who experienced just that up the gallops. He said to me the horse felt dead from one second to the next but kept galloping a few strides before being stopped by the earth wall on the outside. It's not one them things you can forget though you wish you could.
omg the second that was sowed everyone fell but #3 :o
Did you know more than 100 horse are killed every year because of racing?!
More are killed for food and die naturally
More than 10,000 actucally
Ashlyn Piazzisi He/she did say “more than 100” so they’re still technically right 😂
I did not even watch the video but I did come hear to comment on the title of the video. While I may feel just a little sympathy for the jockey's, it is the horse that concerns me the most. This would never happen if these (please put the expletive of your choice here) fools saddled to the horse did not push them to a near death experience. Just a smidgeon of sympathy for the riders of these beautiful and smart equines.
DeAnn Young keep in mind you are the same species as these jockeys and there live matter to they have family and friends who love them so there lives are just as important as the horses
No sympathy. Selfish morons.
@@animegirl0247 just keep in mind that the human species has choice and can decide what risks to take and horses have no choice
@@margaretretk6508 Doesnt matter, the horses are treated well
@@FriendlyNeighbourhoodSpidey so are you saying it is acceptable for anything to happen to horses because they are treated well ? they are not in Australia
I want to be a jockey when I'm older hopefully by then it's safer for both horse and jockey and all the horses get a very good vets examination before and after every race
Horse racing is extremely dangerous and hundreds of horses dies every year on the track. We need to put and end to the cruelty that occurs when we put horses in these situations
Several of these accidents happened simply due to overload/strain of young horses.....In the end all that counts is $ $ $ $ $............the earlier the better......and this often is the result......
yes indeed the bones are not strong enough the horses need to grow more... people it is all about the money.... a young horse has bones of a puppy!
Statistically this is incorrect. By far the most at risk of catastrophic injury are older entires (+5 years)... not young horses. You don’t know what you’re talking about
all of em r so sad cuz the horses get hurt to
stuff the jockeys. care about the horse
Carol Roberts yes
Accident isn't always jockeys fault.. Think abaut it.
Stuff the horses
Me👎🏻🤬
Not always the riders fault
That was bloody alful, those poor horses. jockeys can be mended BUT horses cant. CRUEL.
What the hell kinda surface were they racing on in that 2nd clip?
This sport is so disgusting. I cant understand why it's not illegal yet
I am a bit surprized there is not mentioned Pardubice's Great Taxis jump, for examle 1992... smth like 8 horses fell on that hurdle and some died...
Is the horse in 3 death?!?
Fat Pizza Cat yes it had a heart attack it was most likely dead before it hit the wall
OMG CHARLES TOWN THE NUMBER 4 THAT WAS ALEX MY STEP DAD :O
Number 3 😱😭 rip... I hate horse racing...
That was my step dad alex he had a nex broken and he coldent move but it was 2014 he is ok now
@@angelbreyers9680 RIP to the horse I believe is what she is saying.
Chloé Turban the horse had a heart attack it could have happened anytime it was dead before it hit the wall
FYI ALOT of these horses died. RIP
I’m sorry but all those people saying people are clueless and racing should be banned, these jockeys put their life in danger as well as the horses, they are doing it because they love it. Any riding sport is the same from riding school to showjumping. A pony could trip over its own feet and have to be put down, horses get put down from playing in the field, racing is probs the best riding sport really as they are allowed to be free and just gallop as fast as they can, whereas showjumping for example you are always holding back to get the right stride and they are not allowed to run off. Just give the racing industry a break🤦♀️
Hi, it’s not their fault though, sometimes the horses can trip and fall causing others to fall behind, obviously it can be their fault and half of the time it is, when the horse ran into the wall it died, a snapped neck or something. Most race horses are out on steroids and more 😕
MT Equine_AndMore the steroids aren’t like they are in people and that horse that ran into the wall was not at all the riders fault 👍🏼
Hi my Friends definitely agree, the rider was going fine and the horse must have gotten weak or something not sure and couldn’t hold itself 😕, a shame though good horse. Nothin against any of the riders here 😁
MT Equine_AndMore ya 🙂
@@mtaylor1004 more a heart attack he had.... To much stress wil give something like that
Was ich aber das traurigste an diesem Sport finde ist, dass auch wenn die Pferde noch leben würden und sie nur einen Kratzer abbekommen oder sich den Fuß leicht verstauchen, werden sie sofort eingeschläfert (meistens mit ca.3 Jahren!), da die Behandlung für ein Pferd, dass vielleicht nie wieder in einem Rennen mitmachen und Geld verdienen kann , einfach viel zu teuer wäre ... Die Pferde werden einfach so wie Sportgeräte benutz, geht eins "kaputt", kauft man sich ein neues😭😭😭😡😡
Ich bin Russe. Dieser Sport ist nicht modern. Der Tod von Pferden und Jockeys ist inakzeptabel. Es ist notwendig, die Rennbahnen zu erweitern und die Anzahl der Pferde im Rennen zu begrenzen, die Anzahl der Hindernisse zu reduzieren oder sie komplett zu entfernen, eine weiche Polsterung zu machen oder sogar die Teilnahme von Jockeys in Rennen zu verbieten. Und natürlich den Zustand der Pferde überprüfen. Sollte helfen, sonst sollte Pferderennen verboten werden. Bitte seien Sie Menschen und beziehen Sie sich auf Pferde als Menschen, ergreifen Sie die Initiative und fordern Sie Forderungen in Ihren Ländern auf.
Olivia O Du hast überhaupt keine ahnung
Naja, ein verstauchtes Bein heilt wieder. Ein gebrochenes eher nicht. Ich glaub nicht, dass die Pferde bei einem verstauchten Bein gleich eingeschläfert werden. Lomitas, der Vater von Danedream ist schon mal vergiftet worden und ist auch eingeschläfert worden, als er nicht rennen konnte wegen der Vergiftung.
most racehorses arent lucky enough to live. anecdotally though, i ride this ex racehorse that reared and bucked his jockey off, he never even made it to official races either. but hes now 18 and i ride him at this riding shool.
2:02 omg that poor horse banged it's head on the wall
Why the fuck is there even a wall there in the first place?
jesus did that horse survive that brick wall in fall 3?
Running wasn't enough. Jumping wasn't enough. Let put them together and totally push horses to their very limit. Cruel fking human world
I'm very emotional.
Words of R Kelly spring to mind at 3.24. I believe I can flyyyyyy. Hope he was ok though.
Horse racing is fucking horrific.
2:09 was so bad that not only the horse, even the jockey had to be put down.
Poor horses!!! ;(( ♥
In number 3 it literally killed itself
No.1 and 2 look like ragdolls
Number 3.. Poor Horse. Rip..
Forgive us Poseidon
For every male or female jockey around the world, next race can be the last one. Greetings from Venezuela.
So I’m guessing we should bubble-wrap horses and keep them for moving to fast and shove them into a tight arena ‘just incase’? No. TBs are built for racing, they are extremely fast and loves to run. They train them right and make sure they are healthy and happy from the min they start training them. Trainers actually train the horses to run, how run with others horses right next to them.
Amberlie Marie it doesn’t make a difference how good they are trained if they are run to hard, to often and to young. Growth plates in the LEGS ALONE can take up to 5 years to mature depending on the individual. Racehorses are treated as disposable commodities. Over 10,000 die every year. That doesn’t include the foals clubbed to death from “nurse mares “ so they can care for thoroughbred foals while their dam races. “While the Thoroughbred foal is coddled and valued as a potential race horse, the nurse mare foals are merely the by-products of the industry. A fortunate few may be rescued by horse advocacy groups but the greater part are killed by clubbing or other means “ horsefund.org. please do your research.
"They train them right,..." LOL, that's cute. A few of them get trained right, true enough, but a lot of them get saddle broken, gate trained just well enough to satisfy the stewards, and with enough exercise to keep them from going totally bonkers in their stalls for the other 23 hours a day, and just all of them are pushed far too much, and far too soon in life. Catastrophic failure of immature bones is completely on the hands of the incompetent trainers and jockeys they are unfortunate enough to be placed with. These are two year olds, for the most part, and a horse doesn't even reach maximum bone density until they're 7 years old! Just because they're big doesn't mean they are ready to be ridden, and especially pushed to these limits.
Nothing more irritating when your horse is in first near the end and then it falls on the last one or two jumps.
even worse, when your horse stops dead at last fence, and you go .... Alley Oops!! A new Long Jump world record.
There was a guy in my local Ladbrokes yesterday crying and screaming that his jockey jumped from the horse on purpose to lose the race PMSL 😂😂😂😂 Now I'm no expert I like field sports but surely if you wanted to throw a race there's better ways than jumping from a stallion at what 40 miles an hour???? And while in front of a whole pack of very heavy, charging animals lol. Its potential suicide 😂😂😂😂😂
They need to tell us if the horses r ok or not
Omg the fourth one is a right fall off
The 3rd one was so sad
Horse abuse. This is one of so many things, how infinitely the human stupidity is. I'm so sorry about the poor horses, they have no choice, the human have. Stupid people who bet and/or watch or working for this. Sometimes I thought about, when people in hundreds of years, hopefully doing a lot of things better then us and looks back on our time... It's a shame.
How do you know the horses don't enjoy it? Why would they run if they felt like they are being abused?
1:59 is horrific this is why that is banned in Australia that horse died on the spot
OMG the horses are that ok
Lol so funny 😂 😂😂😂😂🐴🐴💀
This is exactly why I hate racing
horse racing the best sport in thr world
Tricia Todd there are more reasons for hating the horse racing industry, but this is definately a huge reason
Andy Spiderburg why do you say her statement's stupid?
paul morgan Horses do not like being stabled, they do not care if they get fancy stables or pretty multicoloured rugs. What they care about is survival and being in the herd. What we think is “nice” treatment aka tidy stabling is not what they need, what they need is to be able to express natural behaviours and be in the herd, which is often denied from them. Racing is very cruel, they are harshly bitted, often with chains across their gums or chiffneys when not racing, putting incredible pressure and pain on their mouths, their girth’s are overtightened and painful too and they are made to run far too hard, more than would be needed in the wild...before they are returned to their stable, stiff and sore and away from their kind. If you could see an ex racer you would understand how badly this can affect them. And before you say that they like it because they continue to run after the jockey has been unseated, it is because they want to remain with the herd. The racing industry is incredible cruel to their animals, all for commendations and a title. We can ask something from horses in return for the food and shelter we provide them, but within the boundaries of what is physically possible and tolerable for the poor animals.
Tricia Todd
I feel so bad for the horses
2:33 he should be proud
Did number 3 win that race 😂 thats some luck that
dont care about jockeys jockeys can be meanded but horses cannot alfull falls for those horses.
English not your first language?
That is not always the case. Some jockeys could have permanent injuries or even die.
it looks like number 3 had a something neurological going on it seemed to of completely lost its bearings its so sad these poor animals some also looked like they broke down its disgusting
Poor horses oh my god
BRUH DON'T REPEAT ONE CLIP A MILLION TIMES.but about the horses I hate racing they just care about the money and our entartainment costs lives
ItzAlina you’re talking shit Alina
The music they put on the video
Notice how video 3’s horse didn’t get up, yea it was knocked out dead right there
"Okay, I've finished compiling the clips for my video. Now I just need to add the worst fucking music ever made and I'll be ready to upload it.."
Those poor innocent horses slaughtered for your entertainment greed perverse bloodlust
Number 2 hurt, but in number 1 did the guy die?