Has NIL negatively affected college football? Paul Finebaum weighs in! 👀 | First Take
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Has NIL negatively affected college football? Paul Finebaum weighs in! 👀 | First Take
Paul Finebaum, Courtney Cronin and Dan Orlovsky discuss whether NIL is negatively affecting college football.
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Coaches are mad because players are negotiating their worth and taking the best deal for them. Which is what all regular people do in their own career fields. It's capitalism.
Coaches are also mad because they won’t be able to talk down to players like they used to.
As a fan its horrible. I cant even watch my college basketball team, because we literally will never again have a chance to even compete. The past 3 seasons have been 80% turn over on players. Its not fun to watch and root for. Fans are how they make the money.
It also destroyed any loyalty to a college team. Its all about how much you pay me now. While I like Capitalism the NIL has destroyed college sports.
No. Coaches are mad because their programs will shovel out money to incoming transfer students and if they do not win that year then they will just transfer out. Not to mention the amount of behind the scenes bs of student athletes colluding with each other to create super teams or demand more money. This NIL deal is not capitalism because there is nothing voluntary about a person being able to enter a transfer portal and make millions of dollars just to up and leave the next season regardless if they win or not and then putting all of the weight on the program to buy these players and try to craft them to the team effort in a single season. There needs to be contracts if there is going to be this much money involved. There also needs to be small regulations against colluding that players could exploit because they know they are the best in the country. NIL is rearing its ugly head of players who only care about themselves and the programs be damned. Their character sadly reflects their actions. The NFL has contracts and so does the MLB. The NCAA needs them too if there is going to be this much money floating around.
NIL is still just the NCAA’s way to not pay them. It’s basically saying “we won’t pay you, but I guess you can go and find your own check”
No, NIL has not collectively negatively impacted college football. I think anyone who has a problem with college kids getting a bag is jealous or upset they are getting a smaller piece of the pie than they used to
Paul has elephant ears 🌽🌽🌽
It’s impacted college sport’s overall. We won’t see another Lebron, Steph CP3 etc etc those days are gone.
@@sirhoopalot1125 you crazy. There are lots of LeBron's out there bruh
Nah only one’s getting jealous are the fellow college players not getting paid
@@ryanlebard3787exactly theyre other student athletes other than football and basketball players.
A coach can leave for millions over night for a new job but then it is an issue when a player does it lol what a joke.
My sentiments exactly. It’s the same old “loyalty “ bs they push on professionals but nobody ever says anything about a coach doing the same thing. We congratulate them on getting a better opportunity and move on. Coach making millions can’t handle a student athlete coming to them saying they have a better opportunity and if u can’t match it I’m going for it. That’s being an adult. Smh
@@josepht5331 exactly time and time again coaches will secretly interview for better pay elsewhere and tell their players that they are not going anywhere only to leave in the middle of the night to sign a new contract with a different school the very next morning but they expect kids to stick to their commitment.
Do coaches leave for a new school every single year?
Finebaum keeping it a brick, the status quo don’t like it but it is what it is
You had to know the backlash was coming once the athletes started to get paid!! The hierarchy always want to make their $ off the labor but.... they don't want to actually pay the labor!!!🤔🤔🤔
Preach REVEREND!!!
That's America! A country that, historically, doesn't like paying for labor.
This was never a debate when the coaches and schools kept on raking in more funds do to the “Adult Labor” on the field. Sounds hypocritical
Why is that a bad thing that kids are saying “who’s going to pay me the most” like every other person in the world ?
Coaches are signed to stupidly expensive contracts that they often don’t live up to. But I also feel that the players should be under contracts aa employees. That would also help limit the craziness if the transfer portal.
Make it fair: either coaches honor contracts like players are expected to do for scholarships or make it free game where both coaches & players can move around as they please.. can’t have it both ways
Su’a Cravens Claims Only the Pac-12’s Programs Didn't Offer Him Money The college football world has had a hectic 24 hours, with Nick Saban accusing Jimbo Fisher of buying players at Texas A&M and Fisher attacking Saban back implying shadiness at Alabama as well. A lot of people had something to say about this confrontation, but one of the more interesting comments came from former five-star USC safety Su’a Cravens. On Twitter, Cravens said every non-Pac 12 school that made him an offer included money in the offer. He claims Pac-12 schools didn’t out of fear of “the death penalty.” Cravens didn’t stop there, though. He said there were programs that offered between $10-20,000 just to have him visit the campus, and all of those schools were southeast of Texas. He added the new name, image, and likeness policy didn’t change anything, it just publicized what was going on with recruiting. “Recruiting was unfair up until NIL because only the SEC was allowed to openly pay for talent which is why they became so dominant last 13 years,” he said. Finally, Cravens called all of these schools, especially Alabama, hypocrites for the way they have approached recruiting lately compared to their public stances previously. “The blatant lies and accusations of other schools pissed me off a bit,” he said. “Especially knowing how they getting down out there lol ridiculous one sided hypocrisy!” Cravens was a second round pick by Washington in the 2016 NFL draft, but he fizzled out of the league, last playing for the Broncos in ’19. Tommy Tuberville, Joe Manchin intend to draft NIL bill after consulting Nick Saban Alabama senator Tommy Tuberville and West Virginia senator Joe Manchin intend to draft a bill to present to Congress that would regulate name, image and likeness activities within college sports, their offices announced Wednesday. Manchin, a Democrat, is a childhood friend of Alabama coach Nick Saban. Tuberville, a Republican and former Auburn coach, also has a long-standing friendship with Saban. Tuberville told Sports Illustrated that both he and Manchin have spoken to Saban about the issues surrounding NIL. Saban and many other coaches have expressed frustration with how NIL funds are being used to entice recruits, but Saban has noted how the NCAA needs “protection from litigation” to enact rules that would withstand legal challenges following last year’s landmark Supreme Court ruling. The provision calls for athletes to be ineligible for transfer without penalty for their first three years of school, with a few exceptions. In other words, a star football player good enough to head to the NFL after three years would be locked into the same school until it was time to turn pro. And for many more athletes who aren't three-and-out football players, that would reduce the ability to fully capitalize on the full career value of their NIL rights. This coach's dream of a rule feels very much like it came from Tuberville's side of the table, and it's hard to fathom why Manchin, assuming that's the case, didn't say, "Whoa, Tommy. That will never fly. When the NCAA began allowing transfers without penalty at any point in an athlete's career, it established a right that can't be walked back, especially in a climate where college athletes are quickly gaining more power, not less. The transfer genie is out of the bottle, and it's not going back in. THE NCAA IS CORRUPT AND BROKEN. IT IS OBVIOUS SABAN DOES NOT LIKE THE NIL BECAUSE IT THREATENS THE STATUS QUO WHERE HE CAN WIN ALL THE TIME. THE NIL THE WAY IT IS NEEDS TO STAY TO LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD. AND GET RID OF THE NCAA. THE OLD SYSTEM WAS THE CASH BRIBES UNDER THE TABLE. IT DOES NOT WORK BECAUSE THE NCAA ALLOWED THE CHEATERS TO CHEAT AND PUNISH WHO THEY WANTED TO. TOTALLY CORRUPT.
The NCAA actually can fix the issues simply pay the players. It was never illegal to pay players it’s a rule they created.
U go to college to be a student not to be paid da
Really? Then why do some many college students have jobs? My nephew whose on a full academic scholarship makes a thousand dollars a week working at a steel mill in the summer time. If a regular student like my nephew is allowed to earn money than players should be allowed too
If they pay the players then it gives them an unfair advantage over non athletes. They would not only have money to party and buy nice things but be able to afford high quality tutors and possibly compete with the 10% smarter non athletic students.
Na the NIL got these coaches in their feelings. I never forget when Arian foster said when he was on Tennessee and they couldn’t even afford Taco Bell. The coach had to sneak and buy a bunch of tacos for them
He should have had a job. Can’t play one day a week and part time job? Free loaders.
@@UconnHuskieees If your performing something of value (entertainment) that is bringing in millions of dollars to your school, then you are providing a service which, in any respectable society, deserves monetary incentives. And it is clear you never played a sport at even a elementary level if you really thing they just show up on Saturdays. They are required to attend media days, practice, strength training, etc.,. Nothing free loading about it. They provide a service, and not until a few years ago, received nothing of the products value.
@@kecos94they literally get paid their $50k+ education costs paid off every year!
@@UconnHuskieees Very ignorant statement if you think the elite athletes just chill and play the game. I can guarantee that you'll not make it through one of their simple warm-ups.
@@kecos94I believe students shud be paid however how did we go from students can't afford a slice of pizza to making millions? Schools now updating their facilities for recruits. They even feeding their athletes now so they can have the right nutrition. That's one of the reasons why ucla athletics is in debt cuz Kelly wants the best food for his kids lol. These kids shudnt be making 6 figures and act like they a star in the NFL. There have been plenty of former heismans who didn't excel in nfl. Where are they now? Prolly working at fox ncaaf department lol
at no point have I ever thought the NIL affects college football AT ALL other than the players getting some of what they are owed back for the money they earn for these schools. Why is this a topc in the first place 🤨
It must be nice being that ignorant.
Even with all this so called corruption/cheating involved in college football, it’s still hard AF to win a conference championship.
It doesn't matter. These kids are entitled to own the rights to their likeness.
I hate how this is being reported as an issue. These kids deserve NIL. NCAA was running a hypocritical process to not pay these kids
Here is fix that no one will like, if you don't wanna pay the college players, don't televise the games.
Here’s another fix, stop making TVs and radios. That way, companies won’t generate millions and billions in AD revenue. Better yet, get rid of all sports and sports paraphernalia. That way, these boards like the NCAA and coaches will have to actually learn a skill to get a job and make a living.
They should get paid to workout, weight train, and practice as well as game checks for playing.
Delusional liberal.
& using the bathroom, walking & even breathing 🙄🙄🙄😒😒😒
@@markgraves2192sleeping and having boom boom and committing crimes
No it’s not effect anything negatively as a matter of fact I think it’s doing exactly what it should do give players more exposure and with more exposure comes more opportunities as well as money and for me to think the biggest thing it’s doing is making players stay in college a little longer they’re not in such a rush to want to go to the pros because they’re not getting paid which is a good thing or should be for the NCAA I do think the transfer portal should be done a little more differently tho I also don’t blame players who aren’t getting an opportunity entering the portal because they want to play more that’s the point of entering the portal in general right so tbh rn I’m more mad at the Portal then NIL
It’s definitely affecting the level of play, they already feel like they made it when they haven’t
@@sirhoopalot1125 what your saying is a personal aspect thts completely on the player not in the NCAA or the actual college itself
@@kman484ify it’s affecting the pro level as well
@@sirhoopalot1125 I don’t understand how name me some players who recently got drafted ever that it’s affecting right now in any league
@@kman484ify it’s about to get watered down that’s my point
I fully agree that the players should be paid for their hard work! HOWEVER it’s tough to see smaller schools or schools who just don’t have big money recruit and develop players into great college football players just to have them get poached by bigger schools and leaving that school in a rebuild for that position. You can’t say “oh well it helps players that get lost on the depth chart” because it’s starting QB’s,WR’s and all sorts of starters for teams. Prime example is look at Arizona State or Wake Forrest, Pitt ect. It’s hard to stay a fan of a “mid” college football team whenever we’re on the cusps of a great season the star QB or WR, DT or whoever leaves for a team that can pay them more!
Student at schools should get paid then pay the athletes pay everyone else
Poor coaches I feel really sorry for them
The players gets zero % of the billions$ generated by the players, now that's whats disgusting about the NCAA....
People get 0% of the taxes they paid back from government ur point
Paul is always right on target with this topic.
NIL and transfer portal are great for the few players but horrible for college football and fans. I have been done with college football.
I'm still confused about how NIL works. Aside from ESPN commercials, I never see college football players being advertised anywhere
Why do they get so mad that the students now have some control.
Mark Emerett and the NCAA had like 15+ years to solve the problem. But they didn't, because they were too busy lining their own pockets. Well this NCAA is here to stay for a while.
No lol but okay.
@@Shiny101no what? Lol
Exactly they deserve whatever college sports turns into
@@Shiny101 No what. They had 15 years for the last 15 years everybody has been saying that these student athletes should be paid but the NCAA failed to setup any type of way for the students to be paid. If a regular student had a chance to earn money then so should a student athlete. The NCAA failed and then the courts and states agreed with the athletes now the NCAA is too scared to enact regulation because there worried about the next lawsuit. But had the NCAA setup a regulated way college athletes could be paid and dealt with the transfer issue then they wouldn't be in this mess.
Paul has elephant ears 👂👂👂👂👂
Parity? Has college football ever had this? Seems to me the same 10-15 schools pretty much dominate year after year.
Um Dan, what you said about what players say to coaches about leaving for more money is exactly what coaches do to schools, so why was it ok when the coaches do it but not ok when the players do it?
You have to put the kids under contract for two years that will help out a lot whatever it cost. Whatever you’re willing to pay it’s up to the school but if you put them under two-year contract and make them employees, you will save yourself a lot more headaches
This woman is WAY off lol. Yeah, everyone's concern with NIL was that only QBs would get paid
NIL is reason I started back watching College Sports
Ahhhhh a Macbeth quote!!!
They want their NIL? Abolish college athletic scholarship programs then and all the other goodies the schools pay for these bums. No more dorms, no more BS Degreees, no nothing.
How dare these kids make money on their name and image instead of the Universities and the NCAA! How dare they, they’re ruining the game now? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
It can be good for the athletes but terrible for everyone else
@@memebobs9011 Yeah how DARE the kids make the money vs the schools and NCAA, right moron!
@@memebobs9011 Are you part of the "everyone else" aka the jealous ones?
@@dreddmann6532 I’m part of the people who watch the games and want them to be competitive, don’t project your broke-ness on me lmao
Paul has elephant ears 👂👂👂👂👂
Well, seeing as how college football generates ~$8 billion annually, pay the players directly and you can scrap NIL altogether.
I wish that the NFL has a true minor league system just like the G League.
Should Walmart compensate another retailer ?
Bro, they’re still not getting paid to play. Chill
It cheapens the main part if going to school, an academic education. A 4yr paid degree!!!
Get your money.........❤ it.
No one is hurt by this. They want you to think that. Everyone is getting paid. It’s because the bigger man can’t have a bigger slice of the pie. They have to share.
Fans are hurt
Wait til your team gets the raw end of the deal with the portal and you’ll all whine. Anyone who can’t see this is terrible for college athletics is naive at best
NCAA was stupid lol "We won't pay you but we won't allow someone else to pay you either" Coaches can leave schools to chase money but the players can't lol In fact during NIL we've seen new teams like Baylor and San Diego STate (in basketball) and TCU (in football) actually compete in title games and teams like A&M last year in football paying a lot of NIL fall flat on their face lol
I guess people forget that those "players" are students. A college coach is not a student.
@@JediOfTheRepublic Yes, but lots of college students do get paid. The student union president, the journalists, a student who releases a novel or acts as a tutor or teaches piano lessons. Just 'cause you're a student don't mean you can't get paid lol
@@kiroolioneaver8532cause they work there u have choice to be an athlete if you don’t do ur job you just don’t get paid
I had everything I needed playing ball I starved but but I got a degree
Greedy older men mad at young mainly college athletes getting money and having autonomy like a college coach.
Facts!!!!!!
I think it can hurt by a kid going to a school strictly for a bigger NIL deal and not worrying at all about fit in the program.
@@qaxcgyujm The NIL & transfer portal has been the best thing to happen to college football. it lets other schools compete with the big programs.
The boosters have lost there power and and the kids can go wherever they want and not be cornered into these SEC control recruitment.
Just remember the one percent rule....
Time for NFL to start a minor league football system for kids right out of high school. College football can be reserved for kids that go to college to get a degree and play football as amateurs
Plantation football days are over. The players deserve it. They have been ripped off for years. LET THE PLAYERS MAKE THEIR 💰. I STAND WITH THE PLAYERS.
NIL will destroy this pure and great game. Let it be. Leave this great collegiate sport alone. I'm at least grateful for The Michigan Wolverines winning the 23-24 season before it was tainted. GO BLUE!
Who cares should have paid the players when you had the chance they ruined there own product by being greedy
“Our student athletes” 😂
If these new rules allowing some college players to get paid millions it will be the beginning of the slow death of college football. College players who have already been paid millions will have little incentive to make the commitment to play at the NFL level.
"Student" athletes need to go get a JOB at sport business and let them play for money and leave the studying to the students in school. No other real student pays in advance for field of studying. Should Pre-Med get paid as Doctors? Semipro Teams have NO business in colleges.
Y’all don’t want all them black kids to get paid millions smh that’s sick
Imagine making this about race…pathetic.
Can you take it back.. too early for off-base analysis 😂
Well I guess this is the end of athlete's actually getting an education... Back in the early 2000s when I played high school ball man I could only dream of being good enough to get a scholarship and get an education life didn't work out like that but I always wanted to go to Georgia Tech and become an architect... Well best wishes to these young men because the NFL isn't promised
They still are getting an education bozo 😂 they can now pay for their education and families that couldn’t get a scholarship for athletics. Gone are the days where these billionaires get free work from grown men
which is exactly why they should get their bag when they can.
@nathanroyster1324 which is why they should get an education and be able to get a job like everyone else.
the rich get richer. power schools are going to stay on top and it will always be the same.
It's all about money. Why even continue to call them student- athletes? Regular students work because they don't have everything else handed to them like these players do.
I don't like sec thet stay away from texas
NIL has been great! And complain some schools have more than others.....so what! The Yankees have more money than everyone else. Lakers, GS, etc. Thats business and im happy finally that college players have some kind of power. Pay me period. We preach capitalism and entrepreneurship. They teach it at these very same schools, but get pissed when it works against them. The schools aren't even paying these athletes. They still have to generate the money themselves. That means they got to build a team around themselves. Its preparing them for life after college.
If you want to get paid then go to the league
The problem is that NIL has no limits/cap and when you factor in the Wild West nature of the portal, you have a situation ripe for abuse. Schools with billionaire boosters can simply pay for the top talent and small schools that find diamonds in the rough end up being poached by those bigger schools. For fans of those schools, it’s unbearably frustrating and disheartening. Not only does the product on the field suffer, but you can’t form a meaningful connection with the players because they always end up leaving. No one has a problem with these athletes making money off their likeness, but no one outside the fans of the “Haves” wants a defacto non-cap free agency.
Only difference now is the transfer portal. Pretty sure the players were getting paid under the table now its above aboard and you add the transfer portal.
@@NPAMike Yes, it’s always been going on. And it’s been a blight on the sport for years. If the NCAA had done its job and handed out the death penalty to schools caught cheating more often, we likely wouldn’t have this issue. The problem is that most college sports fans follow the TEAMS, not the players. By allowing programs like NIL and the portal to run unchecked, you’re pricing out 99% of the fanbases from even trying to win a title. And with realignment going on, I think it’s very likely you’ll see a drastic reduction in interest in the sport as fans lose their teams and start tuning out.
@@kylewilson2819 there have always been the 1% of schools in college football way before NIL. There was never no real parity.
College football has always been a capless joke. Think Alabama wasn’t paying players under the table? Let it continue to be a joke and root for pro-teams. College sports is 100% about students tailgating and getting drunk in the parking lot. Period.
@@kevinc8955 And when 99% of universities can’t afford to keep playing? People can only handle so much before giving up. I’m an Oregon State fan. If OSU isn’t able to win and/or folds the program due to rising costs, you won’t find me at any CFB events ever again. Same will go for every fan of small schools who are relegated or effectively shut out
they have no other way to make money? how about use the education. Oh you mean a lot of money. why do they deserve a lot? the schools were to use to help the students.
Student athletes deserve to play and get that 💰 at any college they choose! Why bring in the government?! Y'all mfs tripping krazy!
state governments are getting involved. It’s inevitable to have government intervene…
@@jfinity_362 that's what's so lame about all this! Keep government out of sports! Let young student athletes get paid whenever they choose to play!
Of course it’s supposed to be for the players. Coaches get paid the money to adjust. Stop crying and play.
The rich and powerful always get mad when the regular folks get a say in how they govern their own decisions and directions. Keep them poor and powerless, and they can continue to be servants of the corporation. Give them a voice and a choice, the corporation wants government legislation to help them now. Corporate Socialism.
Its called Fascism you dipshit. The merging of capital and government is Fascism. Social is when the workers own the means of production. Socialism is more democracy in the workplace. Quit using terms you clearly have not read on nor care to
*Socialism
SEC crybabies and the SEC talking heads buttsore because everyone is paying now not just them
Read the 10th amendment they can’t
STUDENT athletes!!! That is a Joke now! Some rich conglomerate should make a Jr. NFL League. If you are going to pay them, then pay them well. Don't take the space up in classrooms with these players who will NEVER graduate!
I love how espn has cut away from this lady in every segment she’s been in today, you’d think someone would tell her to make her replies a bit more brief so it will fit lmao
He straight up nonchalantly, trying to get his Republican Congress buddies to take away these players (mainly black) money so they can once again control a plantation-like farming system. 😂😂😂
What a brainless comment in every way.
I am with Paul it's here so accept it... Just a legal way of cheating that's all
why bother with a low level professional sport? which college football is! Instead of following a NFL farm team just watch the NFL!
Bull free market
Everybody is cheating all College Football Coaches paying players
It has ruined the game.
What made Nick Saban retire from college football & will have several SEC & BIG10 coaches follow him is the idea that they knowlonger have a Monoply on ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ recruits.......Imagine if slave owners had to worry about their slaves being able to transfer plantations whenever they felt like it, they'd quit to 🤭
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Its only a problem when the players are getting paid. NCAA made billions on billions on billions off these kids. All these pale people hating on these kids getting paid for their own image is pathetic.
NIL the boosters will find the money to pay players
hahahah florida isnt skewing NIL...they suck lolol
College sports feels so watered down the last few years. Can't tell an 18 year old "no, you need to work for this position". Just go transfer lol
Stupid take… guys leave a university and get a better opportunity somewhere else
@@flex2timezbut there’s more guys where the grass ain’t greener
@@zachcoggins9018too bad we can’t see Alabama in the championship game every year anymore 😂
Sounds like capitalism at work Get you money kids
Paul has elephant ears 👂👂👂
NIL hurt the professional sports if anything, it won’t ever be the same.
College Football 🏈 is rigged
spoiled kids
You like child slave labor too?
You hate capitalism
That’s the new generation just wants to free load. Never want to work for anything.
Paul has elephant ears 👂👂👂👂👂
@@andrewp4220go buy fancy cars and grills
They still trying to get these black athletes to play for free or crumbs... PERIOD!!!
Just saying, the athletes ain’t saying no
Yep