The ACTUAL size of Subnautica & Below Zero LEVIATHANS | 3D size comparison
This is the ultimate Subnautica size comparison, with all creatures on planet 4546b lined up and compared in 3D! Which one was the most shocking to you?
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This took even _more_ work and time than the first, so if you did enjoy it, please consider liking, subscribing and sharing the video CORRECTIONS: - Well, it was bound to happen, but I accidentally labeled the stalker "Snowstalker".. my bad! - I somehow managed to forget the gasopod completely... - I got the size of the lava larva wrong! It's actually about 1m tall, not 1.5, sorry!
I was about to tell you XD
eyejelly is labeled as "jellyfish"
ohhhhhhhh
@@williamplayzgames8613 i noticed that lmao
It would also be nice to know their weight, especially that gargantuan gargantuan leviathan! (Say that 10 times fast)
Its actually insane that something like the boneshark would already easily be an apex predator on earth, but compared to everything else in 4546b it is kind of a pushover
Yeah It Rather Be A Dumb Creature To Get Suck Inside A Wall
4546b is the rise to be earth way into the future
imagine beeing chased by snowstalker the land one
@@stewartpugh3498 ?
Does anyone else think the Chelicerate looks kinda like a graboid ftom tremors
Subnautica logic: grabbed by a Cheli? Push the jaws of a creature apart even though it’s beak is two to three times bigger than your entire body.
Just now found out that I haven’t played subnatica or below zero in so long I forgot that cheli stood for chalicerate
See the sizes are pretty inaccurate, especially for the larger creatures, cause in the cutscenes they look smaller than they "Are" but they look about the same size as they appear through the camera, devs went and cranked up the size until it matched what they wanted, so the most accurate judge of a creature size is probably how big it looks
It is because the camera rig subnautica uses has a very high FOV so the models are scaled ridiculously large, and yet look tiny for example: the reaper is the size of the Statue of Liberty in the game, but only appears to the player to be the size of a bus
below zero logic *
getting eaten to death ? heh walk it off (or swim it off (heh nevermind -_-))
I think Subnautica's scale issue might stem from the objects you can pick up. In game you can hold a floater in your hands like a football, but here they seem to be almost the size of a yoga ball.
Maybe, cause them when I saw that Sea Trader I really dont think in the game it looks like a god damn bulding, right?
Aci made several erros in the last video and I suspect some of these aren't quite right either.
The ancient floater shown in this video is one of those gigantic blobs attached under the Floating Island in Subnautica, which are quite massive.
@@gasiliangames7285the point was about the normal floaters the player can pick up, from a 3rd person perspective they look bigger than they do when you carry one
It's not that it's a mistake, it's just that on a graphic design level, it's extremely difficult or impossible to create a functional entity in a massive size and scale it with the rest of the objects so that it looks good in first person, without it looking deformed, with glitched textures, or crashing the game due to the memory it would occupy. Typically, only colossal sizes are used in third person or from an inaccessible distant point, and along with the old trick of making the object small; look at the Leviathans, sometimes their movement causes them to pass through their own body or rocks, and with the Leviathan Gargantuar mod, it's even more pronounced. A "practical" solution is to set the game's FOV as far away as possible.
Imagine the horror we would've felt discovering an actual Gargantuan Leviathan
*will feel
@weegi7227 No it's not, and I'm almost certain it won't be
@@weegi7227 source?
If it was gonna be in them id just imagine going into the void and seeing a giant glow in front of you just to realize it's just a small bit of it's eye then you die because it inhaled and breathed you in like a plastic particle
There is now a mod that has both the juvenile and the adult in the first Subnatica
The most surprising for me personally is the Lava Larva. Even with them plastering themselves onto the Cyclops as a reference, it still never clicked that those things are basically people-sized.
Since they’re the larvae of something else, that begs the question: *what does the adult look like?*
@@gladoseon4117 my theory is that they are they are baby dragon leviathans
@@riverhall-geib5307 I can’t believe I didn’t think of that
@@riverhall-geib5307 or lava lizards which sounds more plausible to me
@@SrakenKraken If that was the case Lava Larva would be WAY smaller
The only drawback a first person view has, is you can't see the size difference between you and other creatures. If you could, it would instantly become 100 times scarier.
The problem with first person is there's no depth perception on a flat screen. Maybe in VR you would be able to really tell the size of things.
@@Serucipe you reallly can in vr. it’s terrrifying
Subnauticas fov is pretty bad. Good fov can usually simulate depth perception enough to give you a good idea of how big things are
@@CorwinTheOneAndOnlyIf you are officially erase the field of view and submodica on the PC it causes a lot of issues. And I would say even at the highest safe field of you it's still doesn't give you an accurate depiction of how big they are
@@CorwinTheOneAndOnlyits not becuse of fov, its because you dont reailze how big you are. If you stand on the ocean floor everything makes sense, you see how big things actually are.
I did not expect a warper to be so massive! I thought they were about the size of the player but turns out they're massive. Interesting.
Same
The gargantuan leviathan is genuinely just hard to even imagine
TBH it's like too big for me to be spooked by it, it's so comically large I can't push aside the fact of "What in the hell would it eat to live?"
@@maybach5787 reefbacks probably
@@JohnDoe-wl5xm it grows until it dies, itd have to eat so many theyd go extinct, and the gargs would follow
@@JohnDoe-wl5xm that man aloke would be the single reason why all emperor leviathans are dead.
@@maybach5787ghost leviathans.
This really scales up into the fear factor for Subnautica. From a First person perspective most of these creatures seem to look average size or smaller, but from a Third person perspective you can see just how big they really are and in/if a real world like this existed they can eat you in one bite/swallow. With these leviathans its on a whole other level, similar to the statement before, they look big in 1st but in 3rd you are no more than a breadcrumb to them, especially for the gargantuan. This make the oceans of Subnautica even more scary, just like Qui Gon stated; "There's always a Bigger Fish"
The cutscenes make them look smaller, so it's probably safe to assume they're meant to be about the same size as they look in first person, despite their models being massive
@@SS-rf1ri It's just depth perception not working as well in first person. If you play in VR the creatures look their proper size. And the lengths are provided by the scanner in game. So if the model of a Sea Dragon is 112 m long and the scanner says it's 112 m, why would they be intended to be smaller?
Going by Qui Gon's line, imagine something way bigger than the Gargantuan Leviathan.
@@firemario789 Oh gosh is there really a VR version?
@@lewok4834 imagine an ancient garg
I didn't realize until I re-watched this, but I thought Riley vanished during the Gargantuan size comparison at the end, and was annoyed. I only realize now that uh, he doesn't vanish. He's just a dot. He is a gnat compared to this thing. It is so terrifyingly, unreasonably large. Good lord.
I- didn’t notice that until I saw your comment. Yikes that’s terrifying
@SH♡TO Oh hi other me. Definitely is a little awkward running into yourself.
I used to think the gargantuan leviathan was just over 1km long, apparently I only thought of the juvenile
@@nicolasrestrepo6177 You weren't wrong. The Adult Garg is a fan mod. They amped up the size because...reasons. There's no indication in the base game that the Gargantuan Leviathan fossil was a juvenile.
@@Servellion nah you can find two skulls one is larger than the other so presumably the smaller one is a juvenile
Scaling in Subnautica is weird as hell. I genuinely thought that Warpers were only slightly taller than humans, but holy hell they're huge
For some context: The Gargantuan Leviathan is roughly the size of Mount Everest from base to peak.
No it's not where are you getting these numbers dude
Mount Everest is 8k meters gargantuan leviathan is 5k
@@Leafwhisper25k is only a juvenile. Adults are 12k. They grow until they die
@@AverageBattleCatsEnjoyer Ohhh boy
No, the skeleton in game measures at 400m long and the research logs say it’s probably 3 times that long in total, people massively over inflat it, is absurd given that it’s ALREADY BIG ENOUGH TO FIT THE NEXT BIGGEST LEVIATHAN IN ITS MOUTH WITHOUT MUCH EFFORT
i was not expecting the bone shark to be THAT big, i thought it was the size of a Stalker.
Meanwhile the Bruteshark... How tf does that thing have 10m? It looks not a milimeter longer than the Sandshark...
@@WojtekXD-bx7jb the games has perspective issues, everything looking smaller than really is on there.
@@WojtekXD-bx7jb Well because of First Person View looks it smaller than it should be, if Subnautica have third person view, all creatures got their true size and absolutely terrifying, it could kill People with Thalassphobia
@@QuyNguyen-bk6in Thallasophobia is a fear of entering non-clear water, fear of the deep is something else
It's gaulgador leviathan
4:49 genuinely surprised on how big the crabsquid is. Since i set up a base in the northern blood-kelp forest where there are lots of crabsquids, they seemed not too big, guess i was wrong lol
They are massive in the old subnautica trailer
I’m not, I always considered crabsquids as “pseudo leviathans”
@@hazakurasuyama9016 That would mean some of our life forms would be considered leviathans, i meant they're big in aspect ratio to Riley
@@flamingcat1101 i didn't watch the trailer 🤷♀
@@mBlue_mMoon the pseudo part means they’re not true leviathans Also yes, the ocean on earth is full of large sea creatures that could be considered pseudo leviathans
Excellent video! The player model swimming along was really helpful to get context for how big things really are. I was extremely pleased to see it swim through the titan holefish, as well. C:
Well actually no, because all creature sizes here are exagerated
They are not, they are exactly the same as in game.
@Aci_yt Hello Aci, how did you get these models in blender?
@@Aci_ytnah
I love how Subnautica went from "Hi, our game crashes from time to time, we have like 2 fish and 3 plants and you can swim around but the story is still..." to "Look at this amazing eco system, this bomb @ss story and all this cool tech stuff!" Really a game I grew up with that grew with and on me😮😊
I do not remember some of these, especially the Hive Mind and Nootfish Also, was anyone else half-expecting one of the creatures to suddenly animate as the person swam by, and eat them?
Both are from Below Zero - the Hive Mind is growing on walls near to the sea monkey nests in the lilypad islands and the rift that leads to the lilypad caves. The Nootfish also lives in the lilpad islands biome and can actually be caught and cooked despite being a predator (though passive towards the player) and quite large.
So many of these. It was like seeing a fuzzy replica of a spider. Even if you know full well that it's fake, you _still_ get creeped out by the shadow of a doubt.
Ngl I just had that second thought and was like "Let me check the comments to see if someone mentioned that happening"
I loved that but where Ryley swam through the Titan Holefish’s hole. That was clever haha.
Small correction at 2:47, the 'swimming version' is stalker, 'ice float' version is called a snowstalker. If someone still didn't get it, the maker of the video labeled stalker as snowstalker
Yeah I was wondering why it said that
Same
Prob a animation error
@@Halovian_same
One thing that geniunely scares me about Ghost Leviathans are supposed to be filther feeders, so they shouldnt have a reason to attack you... But they still do it
territorial
They’re pretty much extremely aggressive and territorial, just the other day I saw one constantly chasing down a Warper in the Sparse Reef
2. Jaws: While fully capable of tearing through the flesh of any creature in range, all evidence indicates that mature ghost leviathans feed on microscopic lifeforms in the waters around the edges of the inhabited zone. Their vicious attacks on interlopers to their domain are not predatory in nature, but *territorial.* A creature so vast requires a huge expanse of water to satisfy its daily calorie requirements.
I find it strange that Ghostie juveniles are so significantly smaller than their adult permutations, as both are just as dangerous
That is not true at all 😂
Juveniles do less damage than an adult so I wouldn't say.....as dangerous.
Ghost juveniles are more annoying than dangerous imo
@@WillwritingTVyou like your own comment cringe
@@capybara9521no you do
The fact that this man built a rocket from scratch just to come home, discovering billions of billions of unique creatures and an enzyme never heard before just to get told that he needs to pay a rich company 1 trillion dollars.
I liked how he swam through the blood crawlers legs. It’s small things like that that make this better than average size comparisons
Size comparisons blow my mind every time. Thank you for doing it again.
Nothing wrong with the Video (apart from that the sign in front of the Stalker sais snowstalker) i just once again wonder how anything on that Planet is able to survive with so many, so big Predators (even the smaller ones are four meters Long...)
i'd assume a lot of the fauna (in the original game, at least) survive off of phytoplankton, small insects like the rockgrub, and fish like the peeper since they're *all* around the crater with the emperor's tank vents. segregation is probably a significant factor as well, some spaces in the game are too narrow for certain fauna to fit through or just don't meet the living standards they require. for example, the gargantuan leviathan is estimated to have died because it literally got stuck in the lost river and didn't have a feasible source of nutrition. you also don't see reapers swimming around in the safe shallows, which is probably why the flora and fauna there are able to flourish so well
As Fluffy says the big ones get stuck. I had the Juvenile Ghostie follow me to safe shallows. It got stuck a lot.
@@ems8903 the garg never got stuck in there as the pda said it was likely formed long after it died cause we were only seeing a small portion of it it would be too big to enter the lost river
@@e.m.m.i6054 What the PDA does imply is that it basically did get difficult for it to survive due to changes in the biomes, there wasn't enough food source around and it was too big to survive in those conditions, it ended up dying d the cave formed around its body over time thus making its own remains a whole biome
The gargantuan is wrong too
Technically speaking the Guardian Leviathan at 7:14 should be higher on the list if we knew it's confirmed full size. Even if the skeleton shows it to be around that size, the PDA entry suggests that it would be larger than any living creature encountered on the planet, meaning that if the Sea Emperor Leviathan is currently the largest living creature we know of on the planet (could also arguably be the Ghost Leviathan since it's hinted in the PDA entry that they don't stop growing) than it has a high indication and probability that the Guardian Leviathan is significantly bigger than 200m.
Not ghost, gargantuan
@@bonkregulator5237 What are you on about ?
@@raionshishi8290chill kid
@@bonkregulator5237nope
@@capybara9521 Why are you telling me to chill when I didn't do anything ? Also I am not a kid, it's ironic coming from you.
Snow Stalker, Snow Stalker. the second one is just a stalker lol.
The gargantuan leviathan is almost as big as Deimos, a moon of Mars.
OH.
OH MY LORD-
Deimos' diameter is roughly 12 km. So no, its not even halfway there
no?
Time to rip and tear!
Man I really love size comparison videos! This was surprisingly soothing and relaxing to watch lol
I wish there was a mod that could fully capture the size of all these creatures in first-person. That would make the game WAY scarier then with other mods. I'm also really surprised at the size of the hive mind. I always thought it was the size of the player
I know 1st person can hide the scale of some creatures, but I did not realize how big bonesharks were (I always thought they were just slightly bigger than a stalker) and I wanted to nope right out of here seeing the crabsquid.
I think the Squidshark is technically a Leviathan, though on the lowest end of the definition meaning it's roughly 20m long.
It is not a leviathan, it's way smaller than even the treader.
@@Aci_yt 1. The treader is a Leviathan 2. The PDA defines it as a Leviathan.
I know the treader is a leviathan, but the PDA entry for the squidshark is wrong.
If that were the case, the ampeel and the crabsquid should both be considered small leviathans
@@Aci_yt i feel like if it says it in game then thats what it is-
whenever you encouter a blood crawler they don't seem all that big, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS, HOLY
Wow, this really put things in perspective for me! It also makes me realize that, in game the sizes are a bit jank, but here you can see what the devs were actually trying to go for, and its really nice!
yeah, even though the reaper is the size of a schoolbus in the game, hes actually around the size of lady liberty.
That was very well put together, I have not played the game but just watched a video of someone making a diorama of the Frozen Leviathan in resin & just needed some context, so thanks.
Wtf I had no idea, that Spiky trap is so damn big! Crimson and Ghost rays are also huge.
OK I did NOT know the Gargantuan levithan was 5000m big, but it makes sense cuz it is GIGANTIC
The model was from the return of the ancients mod in which the gargantuan is probably a bit to big
@@flauschigeswikingerschiff7541 look after months of resizing the thing. We ultimately decided to worry about the size if the head being accurate and it ended up making the length of the model 5km
On the wiki it's stated to be around 1500 tho
@@gothasfuck4677 this isnt the wiki garg this is the ROTA garg
@@gothasfuck4677 1500m the JUVENILE one.
I have a fear of open waters and Subnautica hits that sweet spot of horror and intrigue. I wanna explore and play but also I'm looking around every 5 seconds like a frightened chipmunk, thinking Cthulu is gonna show up
The question is, cthullu will apear If you keep going
And right when you think everything is safe a Warper comes along and zaps to right in front of it. Lol!
It's so wierd that the bone shark seems so small in your pov, and dies with 2 swings of the thermoblade, when based on its actual size it could swallow you whole 😲
Whenever I see these sizes it truly just boggles my mind every time! A true grievance I have with the game (besides the stuff with stalker teeth) is that the player camera always feels too big for what all the environment and fauna is… tho that could also be my fov for all I could know lmao. But thinking that everything is like 2-5 times smaller due to camera size vs what the size actually is… I mean the fear of each is still there, but the true perspective doesn’t feel easily conveyed. - Anyways! Aci you did such a good job putting all this together! Keep up the good work and awesome mind blowing content!
The Ventguard was insanely surprising to me
Keep in mind the reaper is already longer than the Statue of Liberty is tall. And it’s nowhere near the biggest.
Making it go through the holefish was just *mwah*
Wow, i can imagine that took a lot of work indeed. Thank you, being a big Subnautica fan myself i loved the size comparisons 🥰
Good job with the animation - the comparison was overall really accouate. The only thing i found incorrect was the stalker was called a snowstalker
How is accurate? all creature sizes are noticeable exagerated
@@pimentocheese618thanks for having braincells
@@capybara9521get into vr
no these are the real sizes. the sizes in the game appear smaller than they really are because of the first person perspective@@pimentocheese618
@@pimentocheese618 if you compare the sizes in the game it seems very accurate
It's amazing that despite being a part of the Subnautica community for years, watching tons of videos on both games, there are still creatures that I had no clue were in either game.
I used to think these sizes were exaggerated until I decided to play the game in VR, and realized how big all the damn creatures are
2:55 daaaamn that was sooo satisfying
The Stalker's name tag says Snowstalker btw!
I cant believe that the juvenile emperor is as big as a shadow leviathan they look so tiny in game.
Very impressive! Although it might've been nice to include a Lifepod and the Aurora, too.
These still always manage to blow my mind just how massive some of these creatures really are. Also how large would the Squidshark be with the mouth open and the "teeth" out
We’re all ignoring the fact that the gargantuan skull in the Lr is JUVENILE!
Not the big one. The big one is an adult, there's a juvenile skull in the forest section of the lost river, though.
Said who ? Stop spreading misinformation and give source first
Man i know how much efforts you put into this and i support you and i just wanted to say that you named stalker snowstalker.
I love how the scuba diver just swam through the titan holefish lmao
Is no one else freaked out at how big the Sea Treaders really are!?
No coz every thing else also seems very big
Was looking for one of these yesterday.
What’s scary is that your so incredibly tiny to the Gargantuan leviathan that it doesn’t even consider you worth eating. I don’t think it even sees you! biologically impossible…
I was shocked by the sight of the Pinnacarid, I've got a save where I hatched and released dozens and dozens of them, and though the ones raised in captivity are smaller, even the naturally-spawned ones look like they barely come up to your knees. The Cryptosuchus was also a bit of a shock, I didn't know they were that much bigger than the player! Unpopular opinion, I prefer the Pinnacarid to the Cuddlefish. I don't know why, but I find them so cute! I love it when you feed them, they follow you around, sometimes lifting themselves up and making a trumpeting noise while waving their fins/flippers!
To put it in perspective, a Reaper leviathan is 180ft (55m) long, which is exactly half the length of a football field 360ft (110m).
Hats of to the person who swam in air for us
I love the mental image of a Reaper Leviathan daintily nibbling you instead of easily swallowing you whole, or impaling you on it’s mandibles like a knife through butter.
4:38 The music here as it escalates into heavy foreboding dread as more monsters pop up is perfect.
Hey Aci, thanks for the vid. I have noticed an error in the video, you listed the regular Stalker as a Snow Stalker
They should a photo mode in the next game. As overdone it is for most games, I think Subnautica could really benefit from it. Start getting eaten? Photo mode so you can see the size of the thing eating you and get the perfect postcard to send back to family.
Bout time someone made this. I stopped searching years ago, great idea adding constant swimmers to see the comparison
Yes, the seamoth, my favorite creature in the game!
How did you get the models and textures for this video. I tried looking for ways to import subnautica models into blender but couldnt find anything. If you have like a tutorial or some instructions for me to follow id appreciate that :)
This is exactly the reason I want to play this game in VR sooooo bad, and also exactly the reason I refuse to, so I don't piss my pants from just a stalker xD
Did you use the new size or the old size from the sea dragon. The new size made it smaller
They made it smaller?! I just started playing, and that is a smaller version?
This was great and I like it, you did a fantastic job with it and for the various different creatures that show up multiple times in the games they vary a bit each time you see them. Its not something that you might see without it being pointed out to you but it is true. The reason for variables in size is because the human brain if it sees animals being the exact same every single time it makes them feel less real and it also breaks the world immersion. The lack of variation can also cause a few problems with uncanny Valley and other similar things. Most people are not immediately aware or affected by the problem but when they are it can easily cause other problems.
The lava larvae being the same size as the player is crazy
The regular stalker is labelled as snowstalker by accident. Other than that you did a great job as you created a very informative video!
I think is easy to think that most of these are smaller than they really are because you’ll regularly see them inside one of your vehicles, specially in the Prawn since you’re looking everything through the perspective of a 5 meter mech, everything suddenly looks smaller that way
I remember first scanning the reaper leviathan and hearing "55 meters" and thinking "wait a minute that thing is NOT 55 meters long, looks like 20" so i guess now i know either ryley is a fucking GIANT or everything ingame is scaled down from their actual size
The camera is oversized, install the size mod if you want it to look real
These things don't look anywhere near this big in the game, like I knew they were big but seeing it from this perspective is insane
the most shocking for me was the sea treader! he's absolutely gigantic!
Some of these were pretty shocking. I thought cave crawler and blood crawler were the same size. Lava Larva and Pengwing were bigger than I thought. Lava Lizard and Sand Shark were actually smaller than I thought. I was curious if Sea Emperor was still the biggest after the second game. Crabsquid is still my all time favorite creature.
There is nothing to worry about the Gargantuan Leviathan; this is just from a mod. It is a bit unknown why the creator added the Gargantuan Leviathan from a mod
It wouldn't be an oceanic horror size comparison without an Eldritch God
Bro, someone needs to make a mod that makes every creature actually seem to scale, cuz even face to face with some creatures they don't seem as big as this...
Ahhh I love size comparison videos so much!
Great video, thanks for all the effort you put into it!
I don’t think I’ve ever pooped my pants more than in these 12 minutes.
I love rockgrubs an unreasonable amount
How did you get the models? I've tried every method but I can't seem to figure out a way to get the official models.
Bruteshark is NOWHERE that big, jeez, just how much false sense of safety can the first person camera create? Lol
Blood crawler is where i go head and draw the line. I would've had a heart attack seeing that in person
I though the Shadow Leviathian would have been bigger. it is my favorite of them all
same, it's so well designed and intimidating, and in game it has just the best biome purposefully made for it to be even scarier, AND the AI on that thing is really well done, especially when it comes out of nowhere just to scare you xd
@@DeoNone69 To each his own. My preference is for the Ghost Leviathan.
is it weird that this makes me want to live on the planet more knowing how much bigger they are in real life?
legends say that there is a gigantic ancient floater holding up the universe
Bro called the stalker a snow stalker
Technically the ghost leviathans in the void have more space to grow than the seadragons in those caverns, even if the ghost leviathans you see are 107 meters long, they can and will get bigger.
In their info from the PDA, it told that they reached their limit of size
just having space doesnt necesarily mean they will grow bigger than everything else they could if they had indefinite growth but its stated they dont, and even with that they will still have a limit cuz food, size being harmfull eventually, and so on
@@abdulhamidisavunmushamur8872 Ghost Leviathan's don't have a limit of size, the pda said they can keep growing after they reach adulthood
@@dragkuneesaku5419so he's still right, use your brain before talking
Videos like this leave me a little disappointed that there isn't a 3rd person option in game to visually compare during a playthrough.
i swear the nootfish is the devs memeing
what shocks me the most is the sea treader, i actually met one today for the first time, i didnt use cheats since it was my survival world but i do kind of believe it.
I'm sure I read somewhere the model size is not supposed to be the "real" size and most of them are way bigger than they should look because the first person camera distortion makes them look smaller so they scaled them up so we could see them really big. However scaling them up made them enormous in 3rd person wich, of course, should never be a thing in game :p Great video tho, loved watching every single model! The only mistake I've seen is the stalker, wich has the "snowstalker" name as the model before.
Every time I see one of these for a first-person game I wonder about the artist's intent for the size of things. Did the designers make the game assets the size they wanted and ignore the way things look smaller on the screen, or did they oversize them so that things would look the size they had in mind?
The Frozen Leviathan looks *eerily* similar to Thundering Tanadon from MTG...
bro called the stalker a snowstalker