F-35 Lightning II Vs Iranian Mig-29 Fulcrum DOGFIGHT | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |
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Thank you for finally doing a F-35 video! We need more of this!
Next time fly the F35!
NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns and missles plzkthx SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns only plzkthx
@GrowlingSidewinder This was awesome! I’m 1000% down for more of this style video! Your choice of planes, but more of these hobs fights!
I could hear the Mig-29 crying as it fell to the Earth in the last two rounds. The F-35A can pull 9G turns like the Viper which makes it absolutely insane in a dogfight. It even has its own version of the AIM-9X that can be fired backwards. I want to see the Fulcrum Vs. the F-35 in a BVR fight next. The F-35 also has nickname that sounds better than Fat Amy. Panther.
Thought just one time he might be flying the F35. I dared to dream.
Lol was thinking the same thing!
F-35 model doesn’t have a cockpit I believe
@@Jay_the_AV8R then how does people even fly them agains him?
@@comradeboris2335 it looks like the FC3 f15 or the su25
The cockpit of an f35 is a giant screen theres no hud since they have HMDs
That kill the F-35 got in the first dogfight was honestly insanely impressive, the fact he launched that missile and lead it perfectly to hit dead on.
"The Mig-29 *might* be the underdog guys..." HAHAHAHAHAHA classic GS trying to pump up his hopes
@@geerrr3516 classic GS moment lol
It's like he dropped it on him more that fired it.
Honestly, that was so close the -35 could have been caught in its own missile blast. What a gutsy move!
@@Vespuchian yeah if he was a second late then for sure.
to be fair, this appears to have been less of a fight of the Mig-29 vs the F-35 but more of a fight between the 9x and the archer. The reliability of your archers was a catastrophe, my god. OTOH, his 9x just went "oh did I just go by? Boom" and still blew your tails off xDD
"Wait a minute...what's he doin..." WHAM-O...lawn dart. -Made my day.
Yup.
Yep. 💯
Dont know why, but for some reason, I want to see a modern NATO MiG-29 go up against an Iranian F-14
lol, that would be fun !!!
I'd love to see that. It would be quite an interesting fight
I'm a HUGE fan of the F-14 but I have to admit, in a HOBS fight the F-14 would get smoked. The lack of a HMS and archaic AIM-9's is just a death sentence. Guns only is a different story though.
The irony 😂🤣
You know exactly why.
I'm old enough to remember when the MiG-29 was still the sexiest thing the Soviets had in the air. Used to play "MiG-29 Fulcrum" on my Amiga in 1990 - loved the plane - rubbish simulator - nothing could beat the 1988 "F/A 18 Interceptor" simulator - revolutionary for its day (anyone old enough will remember the exhilaration of flying under the Golden Gate Bridge). DCS's great-great-grand-pappy!
I'm old enough to remember when magazines had photos of the "new Soviet superfighters" and it was the Mig-29 and the Mig-31 (yeah, not a fighter, go sue those magazines). The Su-27 wasn't even mentioned! I fell in love with the Mig-29 back then, and the Su-27 later, and to this day they look like the sexiest fighters to me. I confess I cannot adapt to the looks of the later generations, F-22, F-35, Su-57... I get they are better aircraft, but their looks do nothing for me. On the Western side, I'm still an F-14/15/18 fan.
@@theandf Agreed, the Soviet/Russian MiGs and especially Flankers have a fantastic menacing muscular elegance that I don't think any of the Western fighters could rival. That said, I'm a sucker for the Hornet (pre-super days). The lines of the current flying triangular bricks leave me cold.
It's still sexy today, To be Honest. I've seen Jared Isachmens Mig and it looks awesome!
grew up playing F/A-18 Hornet 2.0 simulator. Good times, Still amazed I played it so much considering my young age at the time.
@@Miratesus It was definitelly the best for it's time. Especially 1.0, because when it was released there was nothing even close
WE WANNA SEE YOU IN THE F35!!!!
When the mod matures a little more I will use the f35 it’s just not quite there yet.
rematch
@@GrowlingSidewinderI feel like pilots also saying this for real 😅
The F-35 had to have caught some shrapnel from that first AIM-9X hit
GS didn't even see the 9x in the third round 😂😂
I havent seen it too
Reducing smoke trails is a major factor in modern era AAMs.
@@Potatochips950 A very good point.
i got scared
@@Potatochips950 exact reason i lose a lot of dogfights against my friend who flies the f16, and my r73 is basically doing aerobatics with smoke on
One thing to note for the f35, is it’s reported ability to lock onto other aircraft, independent of its nose position. If true, the f35 could achieve a lock and fire before the opposing aircraft can turn into the f35, jam the WEZ or point its nose at the F35 to achieve its own lock.
not only that, it has capability to feed both modernized 9X and 120D data throughout theyr flight, as long as radar can see the target that missile should be looping around for another go even after miss
It's just turning your head. The nose doesn't need to be on your opponent. It still helps though.
apparently this isnt installed on F35s yet. Its coming in a future upgrade. Maybe thats why we didnt see it in this video?
@@Asghaad I have hear that the F 35 can also rely targeting information to other airframes like the F 22
The F-35's thermal cameras can feed data to the AIM-9X prior to launch. Basically it has sensors for heat seeking missiles independent of the missile for it to use in any aspect of the fight
First F-35 literally dunked on GS with that missile. Good shot by Breaker, wonder if we'll ever see GS use the F-35.
When the f35 mod matures a little I will use it. It’s just not there yet.
it's got a really neat external model but this is the one with the F-15C cockpit iirc; it also doesn't contain pretty much any of the systems that make the F-35 so formidable.
That one didn't even need a motor. He just dumped it straight out of the bay on GS's head.
@@GrowlingSidewinder That is true. Can't wait!
@GrowlingSidewinder I'm assuming the only way to really fly it in DCS will be using a VR headset that simulates the Augmented reality overlays while looking through the visor? That 30x40 degree "window" in the center of the visor display that is your "HUD" enables you to look "through" the airplane, while maintaing normal peripheral vision outside of it will be tough to simulate otherwise.
I would like to see you flying the F-35 on bigger missions
Cockpit isn't modeled. He's not going to fly it.
@@benn454 Yeah it bugs me the cockpit used is not from an American aircraft as well, makes no sense.
@@the_beef4762 the cockpit is from the F-15C, an American aircraft. But yeah it looks really weird there.
@@benn454 thank you. I didn‘t know that. 👍
At 13:33 it seems like the AA-11 Archer was tracking the F-35 until it decided to track the AIM-9X. It could be just tracking the flares, but the way it turned with the AIM-9X was weird to me.
that breakr dude is crazy good
Love seeing a worthy opponent. Please more vids with breakr
I'd love to see more with the F-35
That first kill against the Mig29 was clean af.
GS: "Take a drink every time we say one-circle in this video... You'll die-" Me: "Challenge accepte-" *dies before I can finish typing*
I think it is also fair to point out that the F-35 is capable of 360 degree target locking. basically in a dogfight if the 35 pilot can see you, so can their missiles.
This. huge advantage with high off boresight weapons launch
On paper
"The F-35 will never get to the merge..." That's what they said about the F-4...
Restrictions inflicted by the usaf supposedly made the radar/targeting essentially useless tough I do think it's reasonable to not trust the government or the propagandists when they say that
never seen the tables turn so quickly like in that first round
Man that second death of yours was crazy... I never saw him shoot. And that bothers me. For that reason alone I wished you'd do a tacview every now and then. Just to figure out how you died or killed somebody without knowing exactly how or why. I don't like not knowing. lol.
Glad I'm not the only one. I know the 9X is capable of some crazy shit, but I rewound the video 4 times and still can't see when the F-35 fired that missile
Man, what a rollercoaster! Lots of "what!?" and "no way!" moments. Fantastic video, great piloting all around.
Three cheers for Fat Amy!
Maverick: Too close for missiles, switching to guns... nevermind.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN THERE ARE NO GUNS ON PLANE!!!! Confused screaming
Watching that first-round missile make the last-meter turn into your engines in slow motion was pretty cool. And then in round 3, I couldn't see his 9X at all, either first-run or in the replay. I'm still fairly impressed at a comparatively-elderly plane like the MiG-29 killing the F-35 twice in six rounds.
I'd be up for another Eurofighter BVR/dogfight video. Do you take requests?
How did you get fighter jet emojis?!
@@somewhereinagalaxyfarfaraway he's a channel member.
Great job F-35! Certainly exceeded my expectations; I assumed it would get danced on in a dogfight against GS in a MiG-29!
The way the F-35 is designed (or at least how it's modeled in DCS) is that you can generally get one or two tight turns out of her in a horizontal turning fight, but she's really built more for using the vertical fight.
GS, fly the F35 on a mission the F35 was designed for!!!
I’ve been waiting for GS to do another F-35 video
You messing with me *F35B VS AV8B DOGFIGHT*
Finally, an F-35 video! Now we gotta get GS in the cockpit 😉
15:00 archer decided to take a vacation ig
Amy's 9x method compared to dropping a boulder off an overpass. That, and some net code hiccups.
Try again with f 35 armed with python 😂
Always great! Getting in to DCS because of you here soon. finishing my PC build today!
"The IRGC will have a word with you after you have picked up by the SERE team".....
YO GS this is crazy after first kill on the f35 i was literally thinking about how the f35 was not meant to be in these situations and it would most probably never get to the merge and as i was having that conversation with myself you called me out on exactly what i was thinking. Either you are an actual mind reader or i have been watching too many of your videos. Good God keep it up man XD
lol I can confirm I am a mind reader 😂 much love
9:36 famous last words: ooooohh what's he doin what's he do 😭
that F35 had some cheat codes enabled.
"Oh...what's he doing?..." *BOOM* That. That's what he's doing. LOL.
The show ain't over until the Fat Amy sings.
GS: Gotta jam that WEZ Aim9x: Er, we don't do that here...
Excellent video. Wicked fast dogfights. Scary.
I‘d love to see a BVR scenario with a swarm of F-35 playing out their strengths with that integrated data exchange and target designation…..or whatever that modern electronic gadgets are called that they say Fat Amy is capable of……
I thoroughly enjoy this style video! Hypotheticals aside. I’ve enjoyed the last year or two of mission scenario themed videos , but this reminds me of the content that brought me to this KZhead page
Good Dogfight!!! Not surprised of the outcome either!!! It's all Pilot skill when you get into the merge!!!
F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New Day 7
I don’t know if it is a characteristic of the 9X to proxifuse while the Archer doesn’t? But I feel like you might have a bit of a reason to feel slightly robbed as your missile when just as close as his did but you didn’t get the proxifuse detonation. Otherwise I am surprised at how well the F35 did in the 1 circle and 2 circle fights considering all the talk of how it isn’t a dogfighter
The first kill was just him practicing throwing banana peels for next time he boots up Mario kart
I am once again asking for a video from F-35 perspective
3:35 Reminds me of when you got hit point blank in the face with an AIM-9X by the F-15S/MTD that one time.
This DF gave me the impression of seeing a Honda Civic doing a quarter of mile vs a brand new Audi S4. Fat Amy is such an elegant looking plane;
I tend to route for GS, but I found myself pulling for the F35 this time. Amazing fights. Thank you.
I tend to root for the underdog every time, regardless if it's GS or not.
This Archer made some drift.😂
After you said "Something as old as a Mig-29..." 12:43 I was curious so did a little research Mig-29 First flight: October 1977 Introduced: August 1983 Su-27 First flight: May 20 1977 Introduced: December 1984 F-16 First flight: January 1974 Introduced: August 1978 F-15 First flight: July 1972 Introduced: January 1976 That makes the deadly and sexy F-15 positively ancient.
now sepc and date the avionics upgrades
4:00 WWWWOOOOAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUU 🤣
F-35 using those 9Xs like a shank in a knife fight!
that was an epic first kill
something i never see talked about in regards to the F35 is the 4-element compound LERX that comprises the intake (thats the primary reason why the intake has that sharp point on it), it makes what looks like a fat and cumbersome plane into an absolute rate monster that can easily match the likes of the F16, that's why it was able to just absolutely RIP around the two-circle on the deck there
Finally! I’ve been waiting for this fight.
Love your work Sarah!!!
😂 He bombed you with a missle
It's good to see the underdog winning sometimes, that poor F-35 usually gets clubbed so hard.
How about a F-35 vs Iranian Mig-29 / F-14 in BVR fight Israel vs Iran scenario
Thanks for the drinking challenge at 7.40ish. To quote someone, hold my beer, wine or spirits. I have not passed out yet. But, in my defense, I am ex infantry...
for an aircraft that has been labeled "fat Amy" and not "built for dogfighting" the F-35 crushed the Mig-29 on this one, the last aircraft that was built, primarily for dogfighting
A BVR fight would be no contest....
Maybe 🤷♂️
@@connorburnes7697It will be clubbing baby seal for the F-35 to go up against anything but the Raptor
@@maxlin3442 Maybe 🤷♂️
i swear those missiles coming from the F-35 act like they just shoot out from a pocket dimension and just appear.
Round 6? GS REALLY didn't want to lose to the f35 😆
Man fly the F35 sometime!
in round 5 it kinda looks like the archer was perfectly on the f35 but went for the 9x once he fired his fox2
Damn, that guy really kicked your ass with the F-35.
The F35 actually did better than I expected, didn't realize it was even as maneuverable as shown in this video.
@GS I must confess that I believe you make the finest lawndart videos on the internet.
3rd fight I saw that missle come out of the bay about .2 seconds before you said something, heh heh
Ram and SSD Upgraded today, waiting on graphics card and hotas/headgear. Cant wait.
Love the F35 content!
F-35 Maybe not best performing plane ever made,but it delivers weapons really good. Very impressive for both planes,at those short ranges anything can happen.
That roll evade at the end was wholesome
These modern Fox-2 fights maybe aren't as good for videos because they are over so quickly, but I do appreciate that you include them occasionally because the high tension, one mistake and your done action is quite enjoyable!
Fun times! Now I'd like to see them in a guns-only fight. :)
Dude, I'm actually surprised you didn't lose 0:6 since the F-35 is capable of attacking targets literally on its six!
F35: Here, hold my missile...
My old Trauma from F16 Fighting Falcon reactivated .... "ARCHER INBOUND!" the horror ....
Interesting engagement. One question regarding round one. What is the blast radius for the AIM-9X's anular fragmentation warhead? With about 4kg of explosives was the F-35 at risk of flying into the fragmentation cloud from its own missile?
9:40 that crazy impressive to shoot a 9x and it curve like that
MiG-29 definetly one of my favourites in DCS, especially for dogfights. Once you learn to utilise dif. thrust and the g-limiter override, you can put the gravity on standby mode and become a UFO for a minute. Tho i have to say, shit gets real when you waste your fox-2's and are in a gunfight with a viper
First ever F-35 dub on this channel
Nice dude. First time being here in the first 15 seconds LOL
You forgot to arm this F-35 with Pyhon-5 missiles.😂
GS we would love to see some F-35 BVR missions in the same vein as the F-22 content you've been making.
DCS just said flat out "nope" on your last fox 2 that literally went thru his fuselage in the replay.
First kill tight high off borsight reminded me of the typhoon killing the raptor
Great video GS! I'd like to know in your opinion, do you think the F-35's flight model complements its publicly available performance figures? Might be too soon to tell, but I'd love your thoughts on it. Cheers!
Don't forget the F-35 has 360 degree bore sight Fox 2's and 3's.
A 47 story building falls straight down at 1g. That building is supported by 28 columns. What has to happen to those 28 columns for the building to fall at 1g? Ans. Those columns must be eliminated instantaneously. Falling at free fall is falling as if NOTHING is underneath of it. Solomon building.
That last missile went right through the F-35.
The moral of this story: NEVER go into a dogfight with a 5th gen fighter such as the F35 with a 4th gen ( Mig29), you WILL lose!😊
Well, he could more than turn with it(and in the real world it'd be able to hit the AOA switch like the flanker can do, to pull 90 AOA(not quite the flanker 120 degree AOA) to instantly point and Fox 2 his opponent- here though, the AIM 9X was what was doing all the killing lol
Nice video,may I ask what is you pc set up?I want to get in to dcs too