The first deep rebreather dive using hydrogen: a gateway to deep exploration? - Simon Mitchell

2024 ж. 9 Мам.
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In February 2020 the Wet Mules diving team pushed the Pearse Resurgence cave to 245m. Further progress required overcoming the high-pressure neurological syndrome and reducing respired gas density. The solution to both problems would be a light and slightly narcotic gas; properties possessed by hydrogen. In February 2023 the team successfully tested hydrogen in a rebreather dive to 230m. This presentation is the story of that adventure.
🌊💧 Unveiling the Deep Mysteries: Simon Mitchell 's Talk about the Breakthrough Rebreather Dive with Hydrogen! 💧🌊
Diving Talks, held last October 7th, gifted the diving world with an extraordinary presentation by Simon Mitchell titled "The first deep rebreather dive using hydrogen: a gateway to deep exploration?" This groundbreaking talk delved into an awe-inspiring adventure that redefines the limits of underwater exploration.
🌌🔍 The Quest for the Abyss 🌌🔍
In February 2020, the intrepid "Wet Mules diving team" embarked on a daring journey into the depths of the Pearse Resurgence cave, pushing boundaries to reach a staggering 245 meters. Yet, further progress demanded solutions to overcoming the High-Pressure Neurological Syndrome (HPNS) and the challenge of reducing respired gas density.
💡🚀 Hydrogen: The Answer to a Pioneering Dive 🚀💡
The revolutionary idea? Hydrogen - a light and slightly narcotic gas with properties that could conquer the hurdles of HPNS and gas density. Fast forward to February 2023, when Harry Harris and his fearless team made history with successfully testing hydrogen in a rebreather dive to 230 meters. This presentation unravelled the exhilarating story of their epic adventure.
Simon's talk underscores the diving community's undying spirit of exploration and innovation. It reminds us that humanity's thirst for discovery has no limits. With hydrogen rebreathers, the deep blue mysteries become more accessible, opening doors to new horizons and the wonders of the ocean's hidden depths.
#DivingExploration #HydrogenRebreather #DivingTalks #DeepSeaAdventure #UnderwaterMysteries #DiveDeeper #OceanDiscovery #InnovationInDiving #OceanExploration #UnderwaterTech #DiveWithHydrogen #DeepSeaDiving #WetMulesTeam #SimonMitchell #DiveIntoTheUnknown #ScientificBreakthroughs #ExploreTheAbyss #DivingPioneers #UnderwaterWonders #DivingCommunity #AdventureAwaits #PushingBoundaries #SeaOfPossibilities #UnlockingTheDeep #DiveScience #DiscoverTheOceanFloor

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  • "we largely resolved these concerns by ignoring them" 😎love it

    @JacobProbasco@JacobProbasco5 ай бұрын
    • Sounds moronic to me. Imagine your pilot saying this before you take off.

      @mithrandirthegrey7644@mithrandirthegrey76442 ай бұрын
    • @@mithrandirthegrey7644 Sounds similar to things a certain submarine pilot was saying not so long ago.

      @Drimirin@Drimirin2 ай бұрын
    • @@Drimirin what happened to him?

      @pieroo7@pieroo72 ай бұрын
    • @@pieroo7 He and his four passengers died from a catastrophic implosion. Look up the Titan submersible. The pilot/founder of the company ignored countless safety regulations in the name of "innovation".

      @samhodge7460@samhodge74602 ай бұрын
    • @@pieroo7 He's talking about the Titan submarine that imploded near the wreck of Titanic.

      @mithrandirthegrey7644@mithrandirthegrey76442 ай бұрын
  • 12:40 I kinda feel like the room didnt appreciated that joke appropriately

    @arwo1143@arwo11433 ай бұрын
    • You have to be of a certain age I think, I got it and I'm getten on in years.

      @horwoodg@horwoodgАй бұрын
    • Check out the other Talks. There were other really interesting ones. For example the the two about the underwater habitats: #DEEP by Phil Short - another highly skilled diver, and #PROTEUS by Brian Helmuth. Both worth watching.

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks2566Ай бұрын
  • I’m not a diver, but I was a respiratory therapist who worked in a hospital hyperbaric medicine area for a while. This is absolutely bananas and I love every minute of it. So awesome.

    @Jason-vn5xj@Jason-vn5xjАй бұрын
    • That’s a cool comment! Take a look at the other Talks, many more interesting topics.

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks2566Ай бұрын
  • Heli access/remote/cold/camping/cutting edge tech diving/super exotic gas mixing/water tank habitats/ 16 hours of cold water deco. Zero tolerance for a failure 250 Meters/800 ft bottom Hpns In the 80s I worked on many Sat vessels in the North Sea so I’ve an idea of the reality of these dives. Gobsmacked Fkkkn A Really impressed

    @wildxplorwild7469@wildxplorwild74695 ай бұрын
    • what

      @nickb220@nickb2202 ай бұрын
    • Don’t worry buddy. Fellow diver here. I get you. I did the same in the gulf. I moved to inland and joined the union. Way different. Enjoy your retirement!

      @AsianManZan@AsianManZanАй бұрын
    • It was quite an achievement, indeed. Check out the other Talks. There were other really interesting ones. For example the the two about the underwater habitats: #DEEP by Phil Short - another highly skilled diver, and #PROTEUS by Brian Helmuth. Both worth watching.

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks2566Ай бұрын
  • Very interesting. Thank you for sharing and feedback. For my part, during my dive at -312m in Font Estramar cave, with a trimix 4/86 : I only felt very weak HPNS. Exercises allowed me to check my lucidity at different strategic depths. Concerning the density of the gas breathed of 8.56 g/l ( -75,60m air equivalent ), the Joki being a very flexible rebreather, I did not feel any discomfort at -312m. Regards Xavier Méniscus

    @minibus26@minibus263 ай бұрын
    • Thank you for your comment. That strategy you used to check how you were during the dive is a very interesting piece of information. I hope we can discuss other important topics, Xavier, in a near future. 😉

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks25663 ай бұрын
  • If you are going to mix hydrogen and oxygen in a plastic bag always put the oxygen in first. Don't ask me how I know that....

    @johnstreet797@johnstreet7974 ай бұрын
    • How do you know that? 🤔

      @AstralWarrior@AstralWarrior4 ай бұрын
    • ​@@AstralWarriormaybe static discharge blew it, while oxigen will just burn the bag. But maybe, i really dont know.

      @xiro6@xiro64 ай бұрын
    • Simply because we are in an oxygenous atmosphere.

      @parkershaw8529@parkershaw85292 ай бұрын
    • Otherwise it will float away?

      @nastropc@nastropcАй бұрын
    • Any thoughts on a fuse🤔

      @karlmckinnell2635@karlmckinnell2635Ай бұрын
  • “We dealt with those problems by ignoring them” this is a sentiment I can co-sign, love the … lecture ?

    @jonnyjohn2321@jonnyjohn23215 ай бұрын
  • That presenter was as focused and clear as any I've listened too. Also if there's a level beyond amazing this was it. Well done folks.

    @bobm2331@bobm2331Ай бұрын
    • Thank you for your kind words. This is the type of content and presentation skills we want to have on our show. Watch some of the others. More interesting content being shared in the Diving Talks KZhead channel.

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks2566Ай бұрын
    • I came to say the same thing! What a great presenter. I'd have watched an hour on the advancements in paint-drying technology.

      @R.Daneel@R.DaneelАй бұрын
    • Check out the other Talks. There were other really interesting ones. For example the the two about the underwater habitats: #DEEP by Phil Short - another highly skilled diver, and #PROTEUS by Brian Helmuth. Both worth watching.

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks2566Ай бұрын
  • Aussie hydrogen mixture backyard testing is the best testing period!

    @Namibiets@Namibiets5 ай бұрын
    • Did you just call a Kiwi "Aussie"?! #triggered #justiceforthekiwis

      @izelennkhan1887@izelennkhan18875 ай бұрын
    • ​@izelennkhan1887 they get so pissed! LMFAO

      @YZFoFittie@YZFoFittie5 ай бұрын
    • @@izelennkhan1887 Aren't Richard Harris and Craig Australians?

      @MegaEpicLlama@MegaEpicLlama5 ай бұрын
    • @@MegaEpicLlama Now you're putting the slipper in LOL.

      @zorbakaput8537@zorbakaput85375 ай бұрын
    • @@MegaEpicLlamarichard harris became an aussie when we decided that his work in thailand and subsequent fame was worthy. you probably won’t get the joke but australia will claim any kiwi who gets famous enough as an aussie

      @Ilych367@Ilych3673 ай бұрын
  • Brilliant! Great to see these new innovations happening in New Zealand. I remember one of the early dives into the Pearse resurgence by Kieran McKay, Pete Hobson and Dave Weaver, that ended so tragically for Dave Weaver back in 1995. Things have come a long way since then.

    @mirandahotspring4019@mirandahotspring40195 ай бұрын
  • I’m not even a diver and this BLOWS my mind!!! Humans go hard I love watching innovation and the limited get pushed

    @kinnymane8593@kinnymane8593Ай бұрын
    • An incredible achievement. Watch some of the other talks. They’re great!

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks2566Ай бұрын
  • ended with a total banger

    @kaviyaneskandari2316@kaviyaneskandari23165 ай бұрын
  • For the rest of us, theres a snorkel. Beyond that theres the common scuba tank. And if you still want to push the boundries watch a cave diving video on youtube.

    @jeffp.8718@jeffp.87185 ай бұрын
    • We used to push our common scuba tanks with air down to 220 ft. All this tech stuff seems dangerous to most, but for what we were doing it would have been much safer 😊

      @bullschitt3666@bullschitt36665 ай бұрын
    • ​@@bullschitt3666 haha, I was diving air to 260 ft and had friends diving 330. Helium was an absolute godsend.

      @gasdive@gasdive3 ай бұрын
  • 14:35 that group photo kind of says it all right there....

    @joshuapatrick682@joshuapatrick6823 ай бұрын
    • Check out the other Talks. There were other really interesting ones. For example the the two about the underwater habitats: #DEEP by Phil Short - another highly skilled diver, and #PROTEUS by Brian Helmuth. Both worth watching.

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks2566Ай бұрын
  • At the end of the Younger Dryas, Sea levels rose over 400 ft. On our deepest dive, we can barely see what was the shoreline before the Younger Dryas.

    @billstapleton1084@billstapleton10844 ай бұрын
    • At the end of and after noahs flood.

      @JohnnyDanger36963@JohnnyDanger369633 ай бұрын
    • ​@@JohnnyDanger36963 🙄

      @Secretgeek2012@Secretgeek2012Ай бұрын
  • Not a diver (not even much of a swimmer), the thought of cave diving terrifies me. Even watching skilled and experienced divers do it fills me with a mild dread. But this was absolutely fascinating. Every once in a great while the algorithm makes an outstanding recommendation. … something, something broken clock. 👍

    @curtiscollins3434@curtiscollins3434Ай бұрын
    • It’s an acquired taste. 😀

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks2566Ай бұрын
    • Check out the other Talks. There were other really interesting ones. For example the the two about the underwater habitats: #DEEP by Phil Short - another highly skilled diver, and #PROTEUS by Brian Helmuth. Both worth watching.

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks2566Ай бұрын
  • Kudos for pushing the boundaries and advancing diving. Fascinating talk!

    @markminer7390@markminer73904 ай бұрын
  • It's mind boggling how advance these guys are

    @sssf55@sssf553 ай бұрын
  • Great presentation. Anything about the Pearce resurgence exploration is gold. Thank you and be safe (as much as possible :))

    @abaDive@abaDive5 ай бұрын
  • First of all, this is amazing diving and I'm really grateful for you sharing your knowledge Dr Mitchell, and the team overall sharing their incredible adventures with us all. I know that having a wildly incorrect PPO2 in the loop is bad for plenty of other reasons, and these are really weird dives anyway for example closed curcuit bailout, extreme decompression requirement etc. But you have to admit there is just something terrifying about oxygen and hydrogen together in a compressed cylinder. Also, consider what could happen if the PPO2 increases in the loop beyond the lower flammability limit. We know already from oxygen incidents that small flakes of chrome or other contaminants being thrown through valves and first stage regulators can function as an ignition source, I just shudder at the possibility. Just off the top of my head, the introduction of H2 creates a whole class of new hazards that no one has any experience managing: - The loop that isn't being breathed can still cause problems if it's PPO2 isn't managed correctly. - PPO2 mismanagement by a buddy could cause problems for you - A blending error could result in an explosion much more energetic than simple overfilling Good luck to you guys, but I'm glad I'm not the one taking these first steps.

    @avoid3dsa@avoid3dsa5 ай бұрын
    • Happy to share what we saw in person to the world!

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks25664 ай бұрын
  • Balls of steel on these guys. Very interesting talk.

    @andyprice4696@andyprice46963 ай бұрын
    • Thank you. Please check the other Talks, too. Many more interesting topics by other Speakers.

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks25663 ай бұрын
  • This was an amazing slide and documentary!!! Thank you for sharing!

    @Pnwdive@Pnwdive3 ай бұрын
    • It’s our mission. We promote the show and share it with the world, for those who can’t attend.

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks25663 ай бұрын
  • Wow! Truly amazing.

    @daveb6345@daveb63455 ай бұрын
  • It's easier to stay alive in orbit above the atmosphere than it is doing these sorts of cave dives - there is a lot of exploring still to be done below us. I was on call for work when I watched this and am happy I did.

    @TomHlavac@TomHlavac5 ай бұрын
    • I still don't understand why they don't just use robots.

      @DustWolphy@DustWolphy5 ай бұрын
    • @@DustWolphy water strongly attenuates radio waves, so that won't do for command and control. Sound-based systems work in open-water, but have quite low data rates measured in characters per minute that aren't at all suitable for video or realtime control and likely wouldn't work at all inside a cave environment. That leaves tethers, which is what all underwater ROVs I'm aware of use. The tether makes supplying power and sending signals easy, but it also makes the system impractical inside a cave due to entanglement issues. I've pondered the possibility of a cave-specific ROV that has on-board power and uses an on-board spool of fiber as the tether. Having the ROV unspool its own tether as it progresses should eliminate the entanglement and sheer friction issues with having the ROV try to drag a kilometer of cable behind it. Beyond that, there's AI, but where's the fun in that. Also worth noting that some company has already made such an underwater drone. They send it off on its own and it maps the cave, then it comes back. There's no realtime information. Ultimately, some humans have always been explorers. Why go there? Because it's there.

      @dwaynesykes694@dwaynesykes6945 ай бұрын
    • @@DustWolphy wheres the adventure then? the one thing weve done since we learnt to walk as early homonids thats EXPLORE!!

      @chrisjames7803@chrisjames78035 ай бұрын
  • Great presentation- pioneering work. Thank you

    @jaileal8806@jaileal88065 ай бұрын
  • Thank you for sharing this with us, great job. It seems like we may need more explosion-proof rebreathers in the next years...

    @carstenfrisch@carstenfrisch5 ай бұрын
    • That’s why I don’t smoke when diving with a hydrogen mix gas.

      @charlescouncill@charlescouncill5 ай бұрын
  • Fascinating!!

    @jasonturner1045@jasonturner10454 ай бұрын
  • Only here looking for Gus and Woody🐙

    @ericaroland6786@ericaroland67865 ай бұрын
  • That explosion was more than hydrogen, as we all had that high school science teacher who would ignite a balloon and hydrogen burns slow with zero shockwave... until you load it up with oxygen.

    @SensibleCreeper@SensibleCreeper5 ай бұрын
    • Yh they probably did the optimum ratio 2:1

      @zdwlees7647@zdwlees76474 ай бұрын
  • Amazing!

    @JesseBusman1996@JesseBusman19965 ай бұрын
  • I love it, a comprehensive testing programme, brilliant. 🤣🤣

    @googoo7750@googoo77505 ай бұрын
  • Really great presentation!

    @prycenewberg3976@prycenewberg39765 ай бұрын
  • Incredible work! Look forward to the paper publication on this.

    @fusion2x@fusion2x2 ай бұрын
  • Ill never go diving in my life i dont think. But this was still very interesting

    @OrionTheAussie@OrionTheAussie5 ай бұрын
  • Absolute mad lads

    @MegaEpicLlama@MegaEpicLlama5 ай бұрын
  • Simon, As always, your presentations are gold! Really interesting [boys own] science going on here.

    @kelvinbarrett5917@kelvinbarrett591721 күн бұрын
    • They are. By the way, Simon is coming to Diving Talks again this October. Join us in Lisbon. 😉👍🏼

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks256614 күн бұрын
  • Wow this was fascinating!

    @zachlerdahl8115@zachlerdahl81153 ай бұрын
  • Thanks for sharing

    @Devast8r34@Devast8r345 ай бұрын
  • My anxiety just sky rocketed the deeper you went. Amazing footage and kudos to you guys.

    @horwoodg@horwoodgАй бұрын
    • Huge achievement for the group of divers portrayed in this Talk! Check out the other Talks. Many other interesting topics presented at the show and available in our channel.

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks2566Ай бұрын
  • Just awesome… Thanks for the video.

    @robertcavoli4351@robertcavoli43513 ай бұрын
    • Thank you. Check the other Talks. Many more interesting topics by other Speakers.

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks25663 ай бұрын
  • Brilliant!

    @gadzks@gadzks4 ай бұрын
    • Indeed!

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks25664 ай бұрын
  • Great talk. Thank you.

    @tundeodutoye4836@tundeodutoye48364 ай бұрын
    • Good to know the Talks are reaching to a wider audience!!

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks25664 ай бұрын
  • Keep at that science guys, as rebreather diver this is awesome

    @ReefFoundation@ReefFoundation4 ай бұрын
  • really interesting talk!

    @teamjenko5219@teamjenko52194 ай бұрын
  • 'we dealt with the problems by ignoring them' True beacon of safety right here

    @toby1248@toby12484 ай бұрын
    • You have to understand that statement in the context of the presentation.

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks25664 ай бұрын
  • Very interesting to watch how those kinds of dives are done. Great presentation.

    @killeresk@killereskАй бұрын
    • It is indeed; a great presentation about an incredible achievement. What the other Talks. Many more interesting topics!

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks2566Ай бұрын
  • Neat!

    @stevengill1736@stevengill17364 ай бұрын
  • Your team is awesome. I’ve followed you for years,maybe since very shortly after you first reported on Scuba Board.

    @Doktracy@Doktracy26 күн бұрын
    • Cool. Join us this October in Lisbon. Simon is attending and presenting one more time. It will be great. 👍🏼😊

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks256614 күн бұрын
  • The ignition energy of H2+O2 can be as low as a few millijoules, a spark that is essentially undetectable, and easily in the range of what you can create by walking across a carpet or unrolling a few inches of cellophane tape. Scares me and I'm fearless.

    @r0cketplumber@r0cketplumber5 ай бұрын
    • Well thats how the swedish inventor of hydrox died. Hydrox mixtures that ain't hypoxic at surface pressures go boom. Sure, if you are deep enough hydrox can be safe. However using it at high concentration is just an elaborate suicide.

      @martonlerant5672@martonlerant56725 ай бұрын
    • Agree, milli-joules from rubbing plastic tojether. The high humidity of the rebreather environment helps reduce static discharge.

      @chadx8269@chadx82695 ай бұрын
    • @@chadx8269 Also, in fairness, IF the test at one atmosphere used the at-depth trimix with 3/67/30 O2/He/H2, that is similar enough to the Tridyne 2/88/4 mix that is sometimes used for rocket tank pressurization- the O2 and H2 are too diluted by the helium to combust at all, and can only react when passed through a platinum catalyst (this makes warm gas to fill the propellant tanks as they drain). Dilution can knock out one leg of the fire triangle, but precision is mandatory. If I were doing that project, I would have done the first trimix test in open water near a shore facility with a decompression chamber instead of in the ass-end of nowhere with no hope of rescue. But then, you'd have to hold a gun on me to get me to dive in a cave- and I've jumped out of airplanes and even flew aboard a rocket plane multiple times!

      @r0cketplumber@r0cketplumber5 ай бұрын
  • If temperature is a problem you can soak your wet suits in argon for a few hours before the dive or use it directly in your dry suits. Gives you quite a bit more headroom regarding temperature because of better isolation...

    @mgeb101@mgeb1012 ай бұрын
  • You guys have balls. I cave dive and it is nothing not even close to what you do! Nice work!

    @LoveCaveDiving@LoveCaveDiving5 ай бұрын
    • You both have a death wish.

      @user-sp4gy7ko5l@user-sp4gy7ko5l5 ай бұрын
  • Everything about this is nuts, delightfully insane.

    @12pentaborane@12pentaborane5 ай бұрын
  • What a fascinating presentation. Thank you. I’ve no experience of anything you and your colleagues do but I have a science background, and have the utmost of respect for you. Please keep on trailblazing. One observation, why is it that there are no younger divers involved? Clearly you have vast experience. Is that it? Or is there a degree of madness too :)?

    @JB-xd9dr@JB-xd9dr17 күн бұрын
    • Good point there. The ageing of diving community. That is something we should address through a serious and participated debate. But here, for the complexity of the dive, you would expect to see more experienced divers.

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks256614 күн бұрын
  • Think everyone has the same reaction watching the last vid ‘f*** hell!’😂

    @connorpollard2009@connorpollard20095 ай бұрын
  • Impressive.

    @jimf671@jimf6714 ай бұрын
  • Great to see people pushing boundaries, i recall ida-73 kicking on ebay few years back, was tempted to buy it, but spent all cash on boris. So looks like Russians also experimented with H2, i have one of the manual depth gauges calibrated to 300m. it would be interesting to read through some of their documents.

    @marcusthebeast2570@marcusthebeast25703 ай бұрын
  • You have to ask why an extreme tech dive exploring mixtures took place in a remote cave. There must be less o2 in new ze.

    @richardshal@richardshalАй бұрын
  • wow! there's only been a handful of these dives since 63 or something. it's an avg of about one attempt per year since hydrox was implemented. The human body is so elastic in the manner of adaptation.

    @rogueFactor@rogueFactor5 ай бұрын
    • lets not forget the human mind (real star of the show)

      @Adrian-vd6ji@Adrian-vd6ji5 ай бұрын
    • @@Adrian-vd6ji you just say that just because you haven't seen what the lungs look like at those depths

      @eljanrimsa5843@eljanrimsa5843Ай бұрын
  • Fortune favours the bold.

    @scottnj2503@scottnj2503Ай бұрын
  • Looks like our exploration of the water filled caves below the Earth may be making leaps and bounds . Guess this will also have a float on effect to commercial deep saturation diving. Interesting times ahead indeed.

    @TheSilmarillian@TheSilmarillian4 ай бұрын
  • 😂 The flammability/explosiveness test was a right crack up. The old beaker in a bucket of water and bubble a SMALL amount of the mix in there then use piezo igniter from a bbq lighter would of been way to go but I don't blame him if he done half a job there deliberately, we know the margin is too close and a mistake puts you over so I'd wait till after the dive and just make a bang too.

    @psychosis7325@psychosis73255 ай бұрын
    • I cringed when i saw how much H2 was in the bag was and how close he was getting to the fire... OMG, ear-drums ringing in empathy. Ouch!

      @AshlarPhoenix@AshlarPhoenix4 ай бұрын
  • I'm surprised this is only now becoming a thing. I remember first reading about oxy hydrogen diving several years ago. Probably in 90s IIRC.

    @TheMcspreader@TheMcspreader5 ай бұрын
    • I can't help but think if Dave Shaw had this mix, he'd have come back alive. As soon as the speaker mentioned the density problem at depth, my mend went to Shaw and Bosemansgat.

      @lancehoward3990@lancehoward39905 ай бұрын
  • I'm not sure if it was just the atmosphere in the room, but I feel the live audience didn't fully grasp just how incredible this actually is. I'm not a diver but I've always had a keen interest in the science and engineering involved. It's been an open secret for decades that using hydrogen would allow divers to push the envelope of dive performance. It's just very few people have had the courage to try it. I do have experience with industrial chemistry in the mining industry and manufacturing and I especially enjoyed the initial tests Harry did. As someone who's accidentally caused a small hydrogen explosion (twice) before I understand the apprehension. As humerous as the anecdote of not annoying the wife and the overall jank of that setup is, this is actually a textbook example of pushing the absolute limits of experimental and technical performance in a responsible and calaculted manner. All that helium and the low oxygen % is a really clever way to reduce the risk of turning your own lungs into an underwater bomb. It might seem crazy how easy it is to get hydrogen but you can actually access a whole load of extremely dangerous industrial reagents in Australia with virtually no hassle. You can get hydrofluoric acid, nitromethane and a bunch of precursors that you need special permits for in NA or the EU.

    @SpencerHHO@SpencerHHO2 ай бұрын
    • This dive was an amazing achievement and everybody that attended locally was aware of that.

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks25662 ай бұрын
  • @DIVETALK pretty cool!

    @DefaultProphet@DefaultProphet2 ай бұрын
    • @DivingTalks, not DIVETALK! Watch the other Talks. Different and interesting topics on our last event!

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks2566Ай бұрын
  • Truly a difficult task to solve. Would prefer building a micro submarine versus this method. The substantial volume of tanks needed plus issues with hydrogen & extreme temperature is beyond simply challenging a diver.

    @alt5494@alt54944 ай бұрын
  • When we quit thinking primarily about ourselves and our own self-preservation, we undergo a truly heroic transformation of consciousness.

    @user-sq1di9jj7y@user-sq1di9jj7y5 ай бұрын
  • The production team Finally switched to PIP right as I was about to exit 🤣👍🏾

    @Nocturnal2010@Nocturnal20105 ай бұрын
  • My favourite part of the video was 21:35

    @SwampCityRadio1974@SwampCityRadio19745 ай бұрын
  • You crazy bastards! We talked about this for YEARS! You did it. I'm gobsmacked.

    @bennyb.1742@bennyb.17425 ай бұрын
  • Two many variables to go wrong for me, but of course I’m sitting on my couch!

    @Telcomscott19@Telcomscott195 ай бұрын
  • You mentioned a documentary that's being made, who is making it where can I find it!? Thanks!

    @carlbroker@carlbroker5 ай бұрын
  • wow great talk

    @kobrapromotions@kobrapromotions2 ай бұрын
    • Thank you. Watch the others, too. And the Q&As. Lots of interesting discussions with Speakers and audience.

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks25662 ай бұрын
  • Is the documentary Dr. Simon mentioned at 18:59 called Deeper? Is there any information on it like release date?

    @abaDive@abaDive5 ай бұрын
    • Yes, just announced by Screen Australia today. Hopefully will be at cinemas next year.

      @DrHarryH@DrHarryH5 ай бұрын
    • @@DrHarryH thank you Dr Harrison. Appreciate the reply from the man himself. That is great news, such an admirer of your work, will be awaiting eagerly. Wish you all the success.

      @abaDive@abaDive5 ай бұрын
  • I think there are statistics for hydrogen oxygen mix flammability and explosivity, but in relation to its use as lifting gas in airships. Harry might have wanted to check out that information before his backyard experiments.

    @johngillespie9459@johngillespie94595 ай бұрын
  • I know nothing about diving but this looks too cool!

    @wilhellmllw3608@wilhellmllw36082 ай бұрын
    • It is cool. Innovative, advanced exploration, the future of diving? Enjoy the other talks, too!

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks25662 ай бұрын
    • ​@@divingtalks2566 Gonna do!

      @wilhellmllw3608@wilhellmllw36082 ай бұрын
  • Amazing presentation. When is N = 2 happening?

    @PKNEXUS@PKNEXUS5 ай бұрын
    • That’s the question!! 😎

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks25665 ай бұрын
  • 🤨breathing fuel and oxygen. diver: WOW! what an amazing dive, now i need a cigarette...🔥

    @user-ox6nc6ly7f@user-ox6nc6ly7f28 күн бұрын
    • Ahahahah you shouldn’t smoke. Diving or not diving. 😉😊👍🏼

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks256614 күн бұрын
  • As much visibility as disturbed cave silt - diagrams at the beginning?

    @sabre22b@sabre22b5 ай бұрын
  • Scary

    @BBBrasil@BBBrasil5 ай бұрын
  • You guys should have nuno gomes on! Hats off to these gents, pure legends, would love to hear input from someone like nuno on the groundbreaking work these guys are doing

    @user-sq5oq2hd3w@user-sq5oq2hd3w5 ай бұрын
    • Maybe we will have him soon 😉

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks25665 ай бұрын
    • @divingtalks2566 Many thanks for the feedback! Should be really interesting, the guy was known for diving past 100m on just oxygen with ease, that coupled with him also having pushed the limits of mix diving should make for such a fun chat/discussion regarding the potential benefits of hydrogen on the nervous system at depth. Again, hats off to Richard Harris and company, takes some gargantuan nads to do what they are doing, loving the discovery of the pearse.

      @user-sq5oq2hd3w@user-sq5oq2hd3w5 ай бұрын
  • Now I'm really curious how different it would be to be on Deuterium instead of Hydrogen.

    @rebeccarivers4797@rebeccarivers47974 ай бұрын
  • Wow, seriously pushing the limits. Has this cave been mapped by ROV?

    @mikeb.3918@mikeb.3918Ай бұрын
    • We don’t have an answer for you. Maybe someone of the team joins the discussion and clarifies.

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks2566Ай бұрын
  • I was under the impression that H2 is pretty reactive and reacts with O2, so very surprised it would be tried in an underwater breathing mix.

    @justgivemethetruth@justgivemethetruth5 ай бұрын
    • O2 percentages are tiny < 4% generally. The gas is only breathable at tremendous depth.

      @georgewatson5197@georgewatson51975 ай бұрын
    • It does form an explosive mixture with oxygen, but it requires an ignition source to actually light off. I'm not sure what the explosive limits are under pressure.

      @WineScrounger@WineScrounger3 ай бұрын
    • @@WineScrounger It can be ignited by adiabatic heating.

      @georgewatson5197@georgewatson51973 ай бұрын
  • i just hope to see self resetting scrubber one day ;)

    @morkovija@morkovija5 ай бұрын
  • awsome dive and associated planning the lack of testing for flamability at the 300m working pressure is a bit of a concern for me - I am imagining a little grinding of teeth prividing energy for ignition and "boom" = what a "face off" and you did not test for this, "she'll be right, HH tested it in his pool" - really glad my concerns were not realised on your dive, but I think you need to do some proper homework on this remember the carbon fiber sub that did many successful deep dives whilst not understanding all the technical / structural issues - all good till it is not

    @johnallen3555@johnallen35555 ай бұрын
    • What Harry's keynote speech from Rebreather Forum 4. He goes into much more detail. He compiled an entire team of specialists in a variety of fields to consult with regarding the usage of hydrogen. Regarding the flammability concern, it's not one at

      @dwaynesykes694@dwaynesykes6945 ай бұрын
    • ​@@dwaynesykes694could you clarify a bit further about the risk going drom Heliox to hydrox? Did the Helium begin to diffuse out too fast causing DCS?

      @zdwlees7647@zdwlees76474 ай бұрын
    • ​@@zdwlees7647 Harry's dive was a complete success; no DCS was experienced. His time on hydreliox was quite limited before switching back to his 4/90 trimix (i.e. 4% oxygen, 90% helium, 6% nitrogen). The concern is what's known as isobaric counterdiffusion (hereafter referred to as "ICD", which can result in DCS *without pressure changes* (i.e. constant depth) when a gas change results in the newly added gas diffusing into tissues while the removed/diluted gas diffuses out of tissues. The rate of "offgassing" is increased by the "ongassing" of the newly added gas, that's basically the premise of using oxygen-enriched gas for decompression. If everything works out well, switching from hydreliox to trimix will actually help speed up decompression thanks to ICD. That said, like any decompression, if done too aggressively it opens the door to DCS. The COMEX experiment referenced was an experimental saturation chamber dive and resulted in multiple instances of DCS resulting from ICD due to a rapid heliox/hydreliox gas switch _despite maintaining constant pressure/depth._ That establishes that ICD is a very real risk which gas changes to/from hydrogen-enriched mixes. It can be argued that the COMEX dive was at full satuation and so ICD isn't as much of a concern with bounce dives; however, at the depths these folks are diving to the faster tissues, which includes highly-vascularized organs like the brain, are more or less at full saturation and are even at a supersaturated level on ascent. Hopefully ICD ends up being an asset to decompression and not a huge risk, but the near complete lack of data makes it all a huge unknown right now.

      @dwaynesykes694@dwaynesykes6944 ай бұрын
  • Surprisingly negative posts in the thread. Experimental is experimental but there is a history of hydro hydreliox diving 500 to 700 metres. According to our friend wiki this is the 54th such experiment. With COMEX having simulated 701 metres my only question is.... When do you plan to go deeper?

    @robertfontaine3650@robertfontaine36505 ай бұрын
  • OMG! Diving has its risks, but we certainly don't need to add the risk of exploding when we're jumping in! 🤣

    @duraace1000@duraace10002 ай бұрын
    • If you want to go further and deeper you have to innovate. These are the steps and the risks taken by explorers!

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks25662 ай бұрын
    • @@divingtalks2566 Totally agree! These guys are absolutely amazing. And a great presentation! Thanks for posting!

      @duraace1000@duraace10002 ай бұрын
  • IM LISTENING

    @user-mm1qu7yb5h@user-mm1qu7yb5h5 ай бұрын
  • Your own personal hindenberg.

    @benjaminnevins5211@benjaminnevins5211Ай бұрын
  • A glimpse into a world that might as well be another dimension. I understand the science, but I am so claustrophobic that the mere thought of being underground makes me unwell. I respect the folks that can do it, but it seems purely for sport though.

    @joshuapatrick682@joshuapatrick6823 ай бұрын
    • Divers are the new explorers. This group the top of those. Underwater there’s a whole new world to discover.

      @divingtalks2566@divingtalks25663 ай бұрын
  • What about xenon? It is considered an ideal anesthetic gas…no cardiac effects, no agonistic or antagonistic pharmacological effects with other anesthetic drugs…and its induction is smooth…it’s just expensive…I wonder if a small amount could be used? It is heavy…I know of it from the anesthetic side obviously and am not even an armchair diver…so I’m just asking those who know…? I am an emergency nurse and studying for my emergency nurse practitioner…I don’t handle gaseous anesthetics obviously but we must understand them…so I ended up here…and we do get divers of course from diving clubs and those in the Chesapeake Bay and Atlantic Ocean off boats…

    @marksmadhousemetaphysicalm2938@marksmadhousemetaphysicalm2938Ай бұрын
  • Idk about you, but I'm a little nervous about an o2 h2 mix under pressure. Definitely wanna be Watchung you Po2 with this setup

    @ianirwin9480@ianirwin94805 ай бұрын
    • How is the PO2 relevant to this discussion? You will get the same PO2 regardless of the mix you’re using, it is only affected by the % of O2 in the mix.

      @saar144@saar1445 ай бұрын
    • @@saar144 combustion calculations rely on partial pressure, if you're running a pO2 of 1 there is more than enough oxygen to cause an inferno if a fuel like hydrogen and a spark are present

      @ianirwin9480@ianirwin94805 ай бұрын
  • Let’s go diving… in a cave… in 6c water… to a depth of 300m… oh and we might explode. 😂

    @humphrey4976@humphrey49765 ай бұрын
    • And not "might explode" it's straight oxygen and hydrogen mix under pressure. Breathing that is right up there with injecting TNT into your veins.

      @DustWolphy@DustWolphy5 ай бұрын
  • was hydrogen purified to be safe to breath at depth (to ensure it doesnt contain any toxic gases which are not a problem for other uses) ?

    @heorhiypavlovych9779@heorhiypavlovych97795 ай бұрын
    • I think it would be safe to assume they were purchasing the 5 9's (pure bottles of hydrogen ie 99.999%)

      @JFMNT@JFMNT5 ай бұрын
  • Hydrogen and oxygen. Reminds me of the Hindenburg...

    @baruchben-david4196@baruchben-david4196Ай бұрын
  • Who mixed the hydrogen and how? Why didn't RH switch to Hydrogen mix at 150?

    @scubaclient355@scubaclient3554 ай бұрын
  • Richard Harris has a video on his channel on going to depth of 245m

    @stewarts9577@stewarts95774 ай бұрын
  • Well, avoid anything catalytic, platinum, paladium... whatever can make H2/O2 mixture go boom without any external energy source. But awesome, that people stop wasting precious Helium!

    @hinz1@hinz15 ай бұрын
    • Yh I was wandering about the potential for catalytic ignition. It definitely happens to high quality platinum and palladium in air with pure H2 gas being blown

      @zdwlees7647@zdwlees76474 ай бұрын
  • Wow. You guys have humungous nads though; Oxy hydrogen mix under pressure sounds sketch. Wonder how much humidity helps prevent unplanned exothermic events.

    @StephenCoda@StephenCoda5 ай бұрын
  • In German we call it Knallgas. Which literally means Bang-Gas.

    @ChrisBigBad@ChrisBigBad5 ай бұрын
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