Shanghai in 1973, part 2 上海40年前
2012 ж. 16 Нау.
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Final part of the film about the great port of Shanghai in 1973 towards the end of the cultural revolution.
Final part of the film about the great port of Shanghai in 1973 towards the end of the cultural revolution.
Born in early 80's in Shanghai, the memories of my childhood is quite close to most of things shown in this clip - except the culture revolution was already over, lucky me. The soul of Shanghai in 80's had changed again. The western culture influence was back again in all shapes and forms. I remember my uncles listening to Laura Branigan's Self Control and going to disco. And I miss the breakfast shown in the clip, yum!
Unfortunately , China now is retarded back to Mao's era !
OH MY GOSH I know every one of those dancers and teachers personally. They are in their 70s now, it's strange to see them so young!!!!
I am the director in Shanghai TV Station . Could you please have some contact with Wu’s family and Shanghai Tv station ,we can have another interview with them. Thanks
That was what, the late 60's? Seems so long ago now! You must have seen considerable change during your life!
@@user-XuJin how may i contact you , can you share your wechat ?
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Born in exactly that year, I am so grateful to the filmmaker for reserving such precious footages. The nostalgic streets, housings, daily lives, and dialects. It's doggy hot summer now in Shanghai and back in those days, we will all go out to sit on bamboo stools, couches, and even beds in the open spaces like squares, streets, alleys, small yards. Children playing around in the street lights, adults chatting or even drinking (usually water) together. In the end of the 1970's, some places even had TV sets that everyone can watch, most of them are only equipped with a 9 inch screen.
Our first TV set had a 9 inch black and white screen.
in the other recording I heard shanghaineese dialect, The accent is a bit different from modern shanghai dialect
Im Shanghainese, but could you explain is it normal that the video's shanghai dialect sounds different?
"History shows that sooner or later every revolution turns conservative. The culture revolution as Mao's monumental attempt to stop that from happening in china, for that moment he had succeeded. But this is China, which for a thousand years has absorbed shock after shock, from Mongols to Manchus, from imperialism to communism. Communism is changing china, but China is also changing communism; the largest state in the world never change its state of mind completely. We have seen a fragment for a moment, and that moment may already be gone." This one is my favorite.
History shows again and again how nature points out the folly of man.
the professor chose his words EXTREMELY carefully. amazing.
and the co-worker is also extremely nervous about what he said
Thanks for all these videos. It's like stepping back in time.
make me miss my grandmother so much..they all look very elegant even in bad financial condition at that period
it's such a precious documentary... I have aunts who were born very poor during that era now became a famous doctor and buying properties worth a few million dollars, the change for them is unimaginable.
感谢你的记录，记录了过去的上海
Your videos are fantastic! My family and I really have enjoyed watching it. Thank you!
Just discovered your channel this morning excellent and exceptional informative, thank you so much , will certainly watch everything on your channel.
Thank you so much for your share this picture.
Thank you very much to share and I would recommend this clip to friends.
good good ,非常珍贵的视频。
hey' ni hao!
Thanks for uploading such videos!
I am a Chinese, see dozens of years ago in China, sensory changes too big, very glad to see your work, you are welcome to China
very interesting video, I studied in Shanghai, visited fudan once as well, though born in a nearby city, but local dialect reminds me so much about when I was there
Thanks!! I was so nice to watch and know about the chinese of early days!! 🇳🇵Love from Nepal !!!
that's my mother town, and my memories of childhood. thanks!
那时候虽然穷，但是活的很开心。
I can't believe you were there to capture all this on film! Thank you!
I wasn't. Someone else took it.
@@michaelijsbrand Aww Geez! Now you ruined the whole thing for me.😞😉
It would be so cool to see how the Wu family is doing now! Shanghai 40years after!
The elders at least must be dead! Oh and your comment is 9 years old😮😱
now I see what my moms childhood looks like. so cool :)
Same
This is the life they dreamed of.
Hello, I really have enjoyed watching the videos on your channel and thank you for sharing them. I am working on a video project and would love to use a few clips. I was wondering whether this would be possible? It would be greatly appreciated.
The students spoke very good English, at that time.
They are in in abject poverty, I feel sad watching this, they are our fathers, mother, grandfather, and mother, Shanghai changed a lot right now, but we never forget the past, and think why we were in that situation, and what should we do to stop us back to the past. Thank you for posting.
really enjoy your channel, have you let the footages available in china other than youtube?
Great video!!
wow, thanks for this video.
Thanks. I have tried to make my clips available in China, but do not know how. I cannot read their characters either. KZhead gives no figures of Chinese viewers except for Hong Kong.
your clips are really amazing for all the Chinese people，thx
it's not hard, I will check out those similar websites in china.
I think the video has been updated thank you!
this movie clip was not recorded 45 years ago, i believe its in the end of 1970s (1977-79) which is 35 years to the video you posted,
I've took the initiative to download the film and show to my friends in Shanghai. A slow process, as slow as the water flowing in the Suzhou river :)
as an American business man I've been living in shanghai since 1997...the changes are incredible' some of the changes are for the worse, they keep destroying some of the most beautiful architecture...but' oh what a city!!!!
Oingo Boingo a Business man lived in a socialist city how ironically
I grew up in a city 300km from Shanghai in the 1970s. Unlike in this documentary, 1973 was a time of shortages. I vividly remember shortages and rationing in cooking oil, meat, sugar, tofu (any soy protein products), cigarette, or even matches. Soy sauce was one of the few things that wasn't rationed. Rice/wheat were rationed, with adult male, female, elderly and child each with a specific allotted amount per month. When purchasing cereal-based food, even at a restaurant (a rare luxury for most), cereal rationing coupons along with money must be spent in exchange for the food.
Yes, the living standard of the "normal people" shown in this film is significantly higher than average Chinese people's living standard at that time. Just as "8 of 10 Chinese people are producing food" implied, this film only shows that 2/10 urban people.
Can't you see the people in the documentary were pre-set, remember this is during culture revolution, a foreigner wouldn't be easily allowed to interview people without government's permission.
Foreign film-makers were only allowed to see and to film the well-fed people.
No , Different place are different. Especially Shanghai!!! Shanghai is total different with any city in mainland China. There are no compare!
Yes I am 100 percent sure my parents were not living as well as those Beijing and Shanghai urban people did at that time, maybe starving, except houses are much bigger in smaller cities.
The families always seem happy eating and laughing. Like the families in HongKingn . living in their junks. Laughing putting the kids in bed. Then the adults plays theur games in a little tabe to relax when the chores are done. I like Oriental peoples. I have friends that are Chinese.May God Bless. Thanks
"oriental peoples"...Im going to assume you are from an older generation who hasn't realized the connotation of that word has changed
Very good comments that have stand to this times!
the woman student has such a distinct shanghai accent when speaking english wow. sounds exactly like my ex's mom, from the exact same region at the exact same age.
Shanghai have some of the best athletes in China, like Yao Ming and Lui Xiang. Maybe because it has a better living conditions since the old days and people get to be fed enough. The cultivation of western classical music also took an important place in modern china (after communist rule). Even today, classical music lessons are as important in Chinese schools. Many Chinese music students left for Europe and US to specialise in music and become musicians there.
Fascinating how fast things have changed then and even now a little over 2 generations ago
Tjis China is totally different from the China today. When I see on youtube the China today with the China of those years, I have only admire the huge steps you have done as Chinese since 70's until today to progress. Blessing people.
1953 I was in shanghai .I still remember that time so poor.
Interesting :)
usually we won't simply describe in which period is poor or not. This is typical Chinese thinking
i,m 65 and have going back and forth shanghai and the USA..were u born in shanghai ? i now live in xujiahui. district of shanghai, .as an American business man..i sooo' love the Chinese and the country, shanghai is my 2nd home.
Shanghai must have been most beautiful before world war two. in 1953 after the war it must have been a difficult place to live.
See my prewar clips of Shanghai by searching with 'michael rogge shanghai'
thank you.
2:52 Yes, we love living five people in one room.
very interesting documentary to understand China transformation in the last 45 years through hard work and education, very disciplined people.
My partner is from mainland China. These interviews are no longer possible. It is very sad.
Shanghai, my home town
thank you!~~michael!~~~
到吴家采访了。
I was just in Shanghai and I really like that city. Before I had a drink at Starbucks, I looked for clothes at Abercrombie and Fitch.
An very young and confident Xu Jingxian at 15:45, Shanghai's third mayor then.
yup' ur correct...he was going to Beijing twice a month for indoctrination...although a true communist. he was a very good mayor.
11:58 they are singing a variant of the beiyang army song, the 3 principle and 8 notices,
it would be an experience to meet the students in 14.17.
I've read Life & Death in Shanghai by Nien Cheng. The neutrality toward the end of this video surprised me.
30 years ago I bought this book. Read it too.
好可爱的一家人
中國對蘇聯的還債高峰期在1959年至1964年，正值國內經濟最困難階段。但中國這一時期平均每年還債數額僅為10億元人民幣，而這一時期每年國家財政支出平均在400億元人民幣以上，還債款額僅占國家年財政支出的1/40而已，尚不及同期中國援外的費用多。 1961年4月25日中國與阿爾巴尼亞經濟會談公報，稱中國政府同意對阿爾巴尼亞在建設化學、冶金、電力、建築材料、輕工業等25個項目方面，提供成套設備和給予技術援助。同時，中國還同意向阿爾巴尼亞供應糧食和其他主要食品，雖然中國人民當時正在餓肚子。（1961年4月26日《人民日報》） 1962年初，中國承諾對外援助69億多元人民幣，主要是越南、朝鮮、蒙古、阿爾巴尼亞，其次是柬埔寨、巴基斯坦、尼泊爾、埃及、馬里、敘利亞、索馬里等亞非國家。中蘇關係緊張之後，中國更加擴大了對外援助的規模。
It was Not Deng Xiaoping that created Shenzhen. Mao has already established foreign relationship with the UK and Germany and also started to establish relationship with the US before he died by meeting President Nixon in 1972. The formal ritual was delayed by Nixon's step down due to Watergate Scandal, then Mao's successors kept working on it till 1979 formally completely established. Again, Hua guo feng, Hu Yaobang, Zhao ziyang had already planned to make Shenzhen a new economic development zone for a try and he had sent three business and scientific delegations in different times in 1977 and early 1978 to Europe to observe and study the advance technical skills and managements. Deng Xiaoping, like Cixi, took over the power from Hua Guo feng and gloried himself for everything. In fact, the only thing he did was not stopping the openpolicy. But in his days, he ruined China environment, disordered the civilized harmony social orders, and made Chinese people have no goodness in business conduction, behaving like wild animals without grace manners. I am glad that Xi jingling made the environment better and the social order better today.
这会也就是上海的条件是比较好的。其他地方73年惨不忍睹
Now i know my home better ~ thanks :)
And then Deng Xiaoping created Shenzhen and in many ways China has become more capitalistic than any Western country today
DavidisDawei Shit, not Deng Xiaoping created Shenzhen. Mao has started to establish relationship with the US before he died by meeting President Nixon in 1972. The formal ritual was delayed by Nixon's step down due to Watergate Scandal, then Mao's successors kept working on it till 1979 formally completely established. Again, Hua guo feng, Hu Yaobang, Zhaoziyang have made the plan to make Shenzhen a new economic development zone for a try and he had sent three delegations in different times in 1977 and early 1978 to Europe to observe and study the advance technical skills and managements. Deng Xiaoping, like Cixi, took over the power from Hua Guo feng and gloried himself for everything.
good
I'm awaiting their response. Of so few persons in my 820 clips do I know their subsequent fate.
当年我上高一。三个姐姐在广东农村当知青。我校饭堂午餐每人分到两片像纸一样薄的肥猪肉。在长身体的中学时代十分饥饿很难饱餐。我和我的同学普遍身材瘦小。 “贫穷不是社会主义”至今依然摘地有声。
The Cultural Revolution description reminds me of what happened with Trump in January
This lady spoke so standard shanghainess you can't hear in ShangHai nowdays！
How do Shanghainese speak now? Slang?
9:08 that sounds hard...
I never saw this video. Maybe the mother and father is still alive as well as the kids. Thanks
我妈妈十几岁的时代
Sounds like culture revolution gave the student a sense of purpose
I am sir lanka . New 2021
珍贵的视频，国内根本不可能看得见了，多谢迈克尔大叔的分享！ 此处的上海应该是70年左右，但是这里面的宣传的成分很大，我问过单位的50后，他一看就说视频的人家吃饭那伙食绝对是当时中国社会中的佼佼者了，这也说明当时外国记者也是有限制的去拍摄，为什么不去中西部的农村拍拍看，那才是真实的中国！
那个伙食是我们今天达到的标准，今天的我们要吃到那些非常容易
生活在东部的我才知道自己是假中国人
jason chen 呵呵，别介意，轮子智障不够
华夏上古史 这里是上海
中国还分真中国假中国，逻辑真牛逼，你是从事艺术类工作的吧，毫无逻辑可言。穷和富都是中国，上海自成立就一直是中国富裕都地方。你认为假中国，那你思想就钉死，穷才是真实的中国，中国也配富裕？
Dank u voor deze unieke beelden (u bent toch nederlands, ik las over u in de volkskrant)
The development might not be there But just see the cleanliness
the shanghai today is like an empty shell of its former self. the soul is no longer there.
Back in the days when everybody was kung fu fighting...
1973 still in the late stage of culture revolution
Why does the narrator sound so biased?
17:22 "Communism is changing china but china is also changing communism....we have seen a fragment for a moment but that moment might already be gone!" what a wonderful and deep observation! Mao died three years later and the rest is history
Not only shanghai all around the world many poor people at that time.
Interesting how the students then were taught and spoke good English
Their english level is 💯❤️
The video pictures true colour of Shanghai in 70s. "Family pool of income 90 RMB, 1/3 in food..." well fed 3-5 person include grandpa or grandma, a token in rent, but housing crowded, same as HK.
then came zee Zeitgeist Movement (TZM) zeitgeistely
Newton's Law told us, that mass has inertia. The greater the mass is, the greater the inertia will have. For a nation, the inertia is the history and tradition. The longer the history is, the harder for changes to be made.
First, inertia does not mean stoped. Second, i think ur brain has inertia.
你们有想过40年前的40前是怎样的吗？
二战逼近
2:13 these toys' quality is higher than many cheap Chinese toys nowadays
People seems more happy than now......Why?
@diaperzombie Heel opmerkzaam van u !
the boy and girl in the video are more than 50 years old
I’m thinking that little red book the revolutionaries are waving around is not anything by Ayn Rand.
Imagine how advanced and peaceful Humanity would have been with out the Dutch, Portuguese, Spanish, French, English, Scottish, Turkey, United states, Germans, Italians.
A good documentary of a bad time. It helps to understand the Lost Generation of China.
The gap between Shanghai in the 1970s and today is like New York today vs 1920. Not talking so much about technology.. rather everything .
❤Mao❤
我发现那个时候上海人普遍龅牙啊。。。有相关解释吗？
eating habit, 南方人喜欢吃软的，日本人至今都是这样。
人种问题，本地上海人都是一帮劣等垃圾，没有外地人进入帮助他们改良基因他们哪有现在的模样
方便吃大闸蟹
Peter Griffin 你们这又臭又穷又脏又丑的北方蛮族侉子也配来上海？臭不要脸
Shanghai same as Hongkong, people live in slum house. If you go to Beijing, Chongqing Chengdu, or most other cities, a different story.
一个穷得起,也富得起的伟大坚强的中华民族!
2:52 is that very hot there?
ART4455491 amazing~
我外婆的扇子
It’s like Athens
Chinese is the most pragmatic race in the world. You can see not just in China, but, the diaspora around the world
Deep down the "system" has made them very unhappy indeed.