HORSE SHOPPING RED FLAGS 🚩 (watch before buying)
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I'm the classic example of what not to do. I bought my yearling filly with no knowledge and based on falling in love instantly with her. I met her the once in a shitty uneven paddock with rocks, holes etc and because I was a bit too full on with cuddles etc and she moved away and kinda stumbled in the process of moving out of my reach which I just thought it was because she didn't know me. Then everytime I wanted to come visit she was always busy, I saw her one more time with about 5 pregnant mares around her so already moving. She delivered her to our new property and within hours I contacted the breeder back telling her that her back leg keeps locking up and she stumbles. Breeder states no knowledge of it ever before and something must have happened here. I now know it's locking stifle and was planning on rescuing horses anyway but it's annoying that she wasn't honest and still charged 6.5k for her. I love her to bits so I'm never giving her back but honesty would have been nice.
Yup, never base it on falling in love!😂. That is just as bad as basing it on colour. Daybyday has a bad habit of both of these things.
I knew a trainer who used to say "green and green equals black and blue" about beginner riders and young horses. 😅
I got two horses from a Texas kill pen and had them shipped up to Idaho. Buddy was a retired ranch horse with bad knees and no teeth. He was such a sweet gentleman and I had him for three years and pampered him every day. He was 25 not 15. I learned to ride on him. Princess was a little more green. I have a horse train one each week and she is a good girl now, she is 18, very sensitive and my beautiful girl. I just put Buddy down on January 8th. He got so lame, his arthritis was very bad but I gave him a great life!
Great advice! I’ve had horses all through my life. Recently I was looking for a new horse, I arrived to look at one and the owner offered for me to ride her. I hadn’t seen anyone ride her yet so I said “I’ll get on after I see you ride her”. The owner tacked her up and as soon as he sat on her she flipped over and fell on him. Glad it wasn’t me that happened to.
Wow
Holy yikes! A horse that flips over is a horse that never gets a benefit of a doubt with me. For me, it's more than a future training issue or anything I'd be able to overlook despite differing opinions. (There will always be different opinions, but those opinions don't matter when it comes to my safety.) Pro reining and cutting trainer Larry Trocha has talked about horses that flip over, and I agree. Bucking, bolting, anything horses do is one thing, but a horse that goes over backwards may be lacking the basic feature of self preservation. A horse without the instinct to stay on his feet through any sort of protest simply isn't worth the extra risk. Smart to have that seller mount up first!
I’m glad you mentioned the vet visit before you buy. Very important!
the seller is probably trying to hide something if: the horse is already tied up waiting for you, the horse is already tacked up, the horse is saddled and sweaty, the horse is suspiciously calm or lethargic, they don't want you to ride the horse
When I was looking for a dressage horse, one of the things that irritated me most was videos that did not show the horse moving in all three gait from the front, side and behind.Videos that showed the horse doing the same movement over and over but few other movements were a red flag, especially horses supposedly at second level or higher.
I always find it so funny because I'm always a big proponent of taking precautions like this, getting a PPE, etc, but that last horse I bought was nothing like this. I got her from a friend of a friend. I get there and she's rearing in the stall. Guy says he bucked her off, doesn't think she's broke (tbf I was looking for a project and I'm so happy with his honesty and the fact that she obviously wasn't drugged.) He says, "I'll drop her off tomorrow if you want a trial" then when I said I would buy her didn't even come for the money for two weeks and looked at me like I had two heads when I asked about a bill of sale. I did have to use his vet for the ppe, but it's also the only vet in the area, so for local horse sales this is standard. 10/10 would do again. Seller was just old school but a great guy. Horse has turned out to be everything I want and more. Also, last time I sold a horse, I couldn't believe the number of people who didn't want me to ride first, wanted him tacked up when they got there, etc. Like, he was a certified good boy and I was being honest, but how did THEY know that? He's now in an amazing home getting all the love.
To be honest, anyone new to horses or new to the buying process should just get experienced friends or their instructor to help them find something. I wouldn't want to tell the seller what I want as they usually find a way to make the horse they're selling be that animal. You should already have an idea what sort of animal you're dealing with from the sale ad IMO and everything after that is just figuring out if there are deal breakers. People with more experience will know the usual schemes and scams and may know of which sellers are honest if they have a reputation. The problem with green horses going to green owners isn't often always the sellers fault either but the fault of the owner who misjudged their capabilities. Something being sold as a project is an honest sell. But maybe the new owner isn't being honest with themselves about what they can handle.
Green on green equals black and blue.
Yep! The "grow together" thing is kind of ridiculous.
Love the "Green on green, black and blue." I had never heard that. Years ago when I was taking lessons (hunt seat), I decided to buy a horse, to be boarded at a large riding stable. He was a freakin' gorgeous 5'3 hands, bay Anglo Arab gelding with 4 white socks and a connecting star and stripe on his face. He was 4 years old 🥴 and had just shipped east from Stillwater, Oklahoma. I found later he was basically Western trained and totally one-sided. Luckily I had a good instructor. We spent the whole first months lunging him in both directions and getting him used to leg. I wasn't black and blue but the frustration level was higher than it should have been. However in our first local under saddle class, he came in 3rd. Anglo Arabs tend to be beautiful movers. But yes, my naivety.
My first horse was a malnourished beginner horse and once she put on weight her beginner energy kicked in so every ride i was bucked off and she was scared of being the arena because i got really hurt and she started associating the arena with a bad place so she would never let me take her in the arena without snorting, running around like a manic and not letting me near her, probably because she was broken in for a year and was broken in while starved anyways i was told she was to much beginner for me 😂 someone told me that she was TO MUCH BEGINNER I didn't even know that was a thing lol Its ok though an amazing lady on the property helped me retrain smoke and help her calm down its been a year now and smoke is an amazing horse she can still be a little stubborn and hard to stop but she doesn't buck unless she is in pain and she doesn't bolt or anything i ride her on roads and trails because she still hate the arena and does buck in there but other then that she is amazing
Just like when buying a house, “a home with great potential.” Meaning, needs a lot of work and money to invest.
Thank youuuu. I am lookikng forward to buying a New horse. Literally thank you sooo much for the help and infortmation tat i need to know. THANK YOUUU
I wish i had this 7 months ago 😭
It's a jungle out there...when I was looking to buy my first horse the first horse I looked at was totally lame (the owner pointed out his mare's wonderful mane to me and my daughter, hoping I would not notice the limp), the next horse I looked at was supposed to be a great kids/ beginner horse but I found out from another boarder that the mare had bucked off her owner on a trail ride and that was the reason she was for sale...next time I am looking to buy a horse I would try a feed lease first to make sure it's a good match.
If that's available it's a great idea! And I've found that the ride can become different when you and the horse are more familiar with each other.
Yes! I like the horse out in the field when i get there too. Then you can watch the whole process. Also watching the seller ride gives one an idea of what the "buttons" are for when you ride.
I just saw one that, to me, had scam written all over it. It was a BEAUTIFUL gypsy vanner for $1500, It was a stallion and apparently a 1 on the bombproof. 😏 that would be a dream if all that was true.
This is a great video! 😊 Definitely dont get on the horse if the owner / seller will not. Also, be very wary of a horse that's been turned out for some time. Sure, people can say "oh, I've run out of time/ got a different job / had a baby," etc. But sadly I have had experience of this and it quite often turns out the horse is unsound. If you can lease to buy, it gives you the opportunity to bring the horse back into work without being stuck with an unsaleable horse ( that you probably became fond of, in the meantime).
I am planning to get my horse next year I’ll be sure to pay attention ❤
Great Video! Could you do a video on how to ask and preform flying changes? My brain can't process on a horse that doesn't have auto.
Thank you, this is SO very helpful! I wish I had this video when I first got into horses. It definitely would have saved me a lot of mistakes and heartache. Will definitely be keeping these things in mind when purchasing my next horse!
This would be a great video for daybyday to watch!.
My dad said he might get me a horse in the coming months -yrs so this vid is gonan help so muchhh
This was a great video for new horse owners or beginner riders. I would also add giving a deposit to hold the horse until you can get there to see it. I like that you bring up sound enough to do what you want it to do. Some horses can trail ride or do low level jumps after healing from an injury. 😊
Too many scammers out there these days, so I wouldn't give a deposit unless I personally trusted the Seller. Just sayin'.
@@jordanwhite5470 that's what I'm saying, that's a huge red flag. I see so many new horse owners falling for that too. :(
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Please consider reputable rescues when horse shopping! Good rescues will have already had a thorough vetting done, farrier visits and behavior assessment on ground and under saddle if horse is trained to ride at the time. A good rescue will be honest and upfront on everything known about the horse. The goal is a great forever home for every horse. Adoption fee will usually be much less than the horse would sell for in the open market, definitely a plus. There are a few caveats with adopting from a rescue: you cannot resell/give away/lease to someone else off property. You also have to notify and get approval to move the horse from location you gave. There is a contract both parties sign and our rescue will go to court to enforce ours if needed. Different rescues have varied requirements for horse housing. For ours, shelter can be a good stand of trees. For others, it's a barn or run in shed. Our rescue allows barbed wire fencing, but some do not. IMO, barbed wire is much safer than high tensile based on 50+ years with horses. Be prepared to provide vet and farrier references. For first time horse owners, we help with finding those, but we then require an instructor/experienced friend reference. I can say though, if somebody rides one of ours and is great, just not owned before, we work with you. If you cannot/don't want the horse anymore, the horse has to be returned to the rescue and you don't get your adoption fee back. I can say that many rescues do have 30 day return where you'd get some or all of adoption fee back or it can be applied on another horse. Another positive with rescues is that we're always open to volunteers, especially those with horse experience. That way you can get to know the horses in a no pressure situation. Rescues will also let you come see and ride the horse more than once. Many rescues also offer foster options, although that usually applies to horses that need some work before they're ready to be adopted. Although our small rescue will do a 30 day foster/trial for local adopters. After the 30 days, you either adopt the horse or return to rescue. There are many good quality horses at rescues, even some potentially world caliber horses, for much less than you'd pay privately. However, you won't find a made, sound 5 star eventer at a rescue or a made, sound 1D barrel horse. We do try to expose the horses to different things like trails, obstacles, jumps, ropes, shooting and we are game to try or let potential adopters try out things specific to their discipline. National Breed rescues are great if that's your thing. Thoroughbred and standardbred rescues are fantastic and they even X-ray every horse. You're getting a free, complete PPE! While the most important thing is a great forever home, rescues have to ask higher adoption fees for trained, sound horses in order to keep helping other horses. Horse care isn't cheap as we all know! Rescues can be 501c3 non-profits or they can be private. Do some research on individual rescues beforehand. Ask for contact info for other adopters and talk to a few. Ask who their vet is and contact them. When these people praise the rescue, go visit. Some of us don't have fancy facilities, but the horses will be well cared for. I know this was a long post, but rescues are very often overlooked by horse shoppers. ❤ PM me or post comments here and I'll be happy to help anyone with finding good rescues in your area.
This is some really good info. I'm trying to get a horse in the next few months and was thinking of rescues. Could you help with finding a rescue in Georgia?
@@sarahhavle113 absolutely
I wouldn't recommand a rescue as a first animal (no matter if dog, horse, cat, or whatever). Because those animals are often emotionnally hurt, so can give bad surprises do their new owners even if the shelter is pretty sure the animal is very easy to handle. Moreover, even an easy-to-handle one can be easy to handle only because he's very shy and unconfident; an experimented owner will notice that and help the rescue to rebuild the confidence. So, if I'd buy a horse someday, it wouldn't be in a shelter, because I'm not a confident rider. But I'm experimented with dogs and cats, so I rescue them as soon as I can, even chosing the one who are hard to handle (except if they can be a threat for my other animals), because I know those would have trouble to find a home. :)
@@grenade8572 well a good, experienced horse rescue has put the horse through the wringer to find those holes, before even considering adoption. Good rescues will want an adopter to come out in person and have interactions with potential horses. We make sure it's the right fit for the horse first and adopter second. There are lots of mediocre to bad rescues out there as well as flippers calling themselves rescues. All they care about is the dollar. That's why I've said reputable rescues only. Those great rescues are a fantastic safety net for horses and adopters because if it doesn't work out for any reason, the horse has a safe place to return too.
This is very helpful, thank u 😊
Good tips! P.S. you look really pretty in this video.
Where was this a year ago 😂. Got my walkaloosa who was “6” was broodmare bought from auction. Didn’t know they only owned her a year till after purchase. They never named her…… Wasn’t worried about PPE because I was going to be using the same vet. Never had her teeth done with them she is also 16 not 6 She supposed to be broke, they had to many horses and were selling down their heard so they could ride more. I can tack her up just fine she will not move forward…… Thankfully one of my good friends is a trainer so her and the mini we got with her who is actually 6 will be going for to school for a bit. I’m gonna be super pick for our next horse lol I love her to pieces though
How do you treat a condition like that?
It's sad that this video even needs to exist. Why can't people just be honest about selling horses?
It is a jungle out there especially at the auctions!
First! Thank you! Im thinking on getting a new horse, and this was helpful! I wish I knew this before I got my boy, Dunkin! Pin? ❤
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2 week trail time so you get the money back if the horse dont work out
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