DRAMATIC Failed Landing + Go-Around | Lufthansa B748 at LAX
2024 ж. 24 Сәу.
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After the massive amount of messages on social media and a successful collaboration with the guys from AIRLINE VIDEOS who allowed to use their video, here you have the ATC from the Lufthansa hard landing at LAX a few days ago. Not too much, but enough to hear the humble voice of the trainee pilot after his bounced landing. Go for it, dude. Better next time!
I can’t wait til Kelsey over at 74Gear gets wind of this!! His review is gonna be hilarious 😁
@@babygrrlpc5057 Probably gonna be next week, but hes gonna have a field day with this landing.
It's quite sad that the "context" is missing at most social media sites and news outlets. Now it makes all sense to me if its a trainee pilot.
Kablamo
Having the actual video brings a whole new dynamic to your videos. Thanks to AIRLINE VIDEOS for allowing this. I hope y'all continue your partnership moving forward.
If you're reading this, Lufthansa guy...don't let this little mistake get on your way! 😎💪🏾
I'm sure he wouldn't. My former instructor once taught me that all pilots had bad landings in their lifetime, so any veteran pilot with thousands of hours who claims to never have any bad landing in his whole career is most likely lying.
@@ro-86alkonost78 I'm sure you're right! 😃
@@R8andGT3Fan sorry, I edited it. I mean veteran pilots with thousands of hours who claims to never have any bad landing in their whole career. Even one of our highest-ranking CFIs with thousands of hours had a bounced landing one time.
❤
There's a reason we do training.
The pilot did the right thing and made no excuses. He hit hard and put it back up in the air. Good decision making after a clear mistake. And he owned it. I respect honesty.
I’m thinking the Captain took over and executed the go around
yeah, SHE took over after he boffed it.
@@sbdreaminwho is “she”? Was the pilot not flying a woman? I didn’t see that anywhere…
Pilot error is not so clear. ATC rushed a departure ahead of 456. Wake turbulence could have been a factor.
@@encinobalboaMust be a fragile lil 747 if it’s impacted by the wake turbulence of an Embraer 175 😂
How I imagine it went in the pilot's head: Departure: What was the reason for the go around? Lufthansa: It was me, it was my fault Departure: Sorry, I didn't get that Lufthansa: Please don't make me say it again... Approach: What was the reason for that missed approach? Lufthansa: Oh come on!
FOR REAL,LOL
I read somewhere once that the 747s are easy to land ("practically lands itself") - maybe this was an attempt to discredit this reputation?
@@parti-gyle6466with autopilot in fog and rain and snow to minimums, yes, visual not so much! 😂
"in detail please muahahahaha" /xmission
ATC couldn't believe that for once they were getting an honest answer instead of the usual blame and excuses
Bro was honest about it 😅
Modern Germans usually are
Very German of him, honest and straight to the point
Departure: What was the reason for the go-around? Lufthansa: My landing. Departure: Say again? I mean, I heard you, but I want to hear it again. :)
I would have said there were two groundhogs on the runway. But that is just me.
Must have felt super embarrassing. And then there's the hundreds of passengers in the back as well. Yikes.
“What was the reason for the go around?” “I dont want to talk about it…”
Rod Stewart?
This pilot will be a great pilot. Owned his mistake. Didn't look for excuses. Dusted himself off and tried again. Kudos sir! 👌
Indeed.
Why do you say it was a mistake?
@@157294 Well no one lands like that on purpose!?
At Lufthansa, pilots on long-range aircraft usually have many years of experience on short-haul aircraft (usually A320 family). So this guy has been a professional pilot for quite a while.
Hi Everyone. I was on this flight. I was sitting in Economy Class, it was a very hard landing indeed. I did not see anyone bounce out of their seats, but many people who did not hold thier phones and ipads tightly , well they went flying in the air. A few of the overhead bins opened up as well. Yes old ladies were screaming. The best part was the engines reving up for the climb out.
I'd honestly love to feel the power of a 747 light after a long flight so not full of fuel going from idle to TOGA power. Too bad they were restricted to 2000 feet so they had to stop the climb right away.
Did the pilot come on the PA to explain what was happening?
@@nathewI had my headphone on so I don’t hear much what he said. He apologized for the incident. Flight attendants told us to stay in our seats, if anyone was seriously hurt to press the call button. I am a frequent flyer and aviation geek. I was well aware of what happened.
@@hewhohasnoidentity4377I was actually a bit concerned and surprised the plane managed to get up again. I thought we were just gonna bounce one more time and land… it was quick thinking to pull the throttles.
You have to change your underwear?
I had over 21,000 hours in the 747-422. I can attest I have made a few, well, too many bad landings, and few which required a go around. That approach looked ok in the clip, until the late flare, and maybe a bit fast. He bounced, and almost got the nose gear. BUT, the pilot flying did the absolute correct fix. He had flying speed, and took it around. He came back in a second time, and landed successfully. Absolutely nothing to criticize here. We've all done it, or you're lying if all those landings were perfect.
It looked like a decent sink rate until the mains were about 10-20 feet off the pavement, then it looked like the lift just went away, and it dropped hard that last 10 feet. Maybe his speed burned off, and the lift just went away faster than he expected? Good to not throw the stick full forward and try to force it, good that he went around.
Blancolirio and Captain Joe will probably say the same thing.🙂👍
He did his job. Avoided a disaster.
I have about 1,000 hours in the 747 (cargo) and I have my first passenger flight in it. Fingers crossed I have captain weather otherwise this could be me.
@@burnn3 My best wishes!🙂👍 Also that not a Planespotter is sitting there and filming your Approach.😃
1:32 the laughter in her voice as she reads back the clearance, gee I wonder what was so funny? :D I bet JBU2836 had an amazing view of that mess!
I heard that chuckle as well. Definitely saw the bounce from first row
tbh I think she's chuckling _with_ rather than _at_ the LH pilot, remembering her own messes. 😂 As Kelsey over at 74Gear has said, they've all been there at one time or other. Just part of learning, especially the 74x where you're still several storeys up when the mains contact.
In Germany we call it Schadenfreude
@@arn0_nym Genau!!
Relax ,it's no big deal ,no one get hurt,we used to make fun of other pilots' minor mistakes all the time .
we've all had bad days are work its ok Luffy pilot you'll get them next time!
Every pilot has had a few bad landings. Just glad none of mine were on KZhead
That JetBlue laughing at the 747 was too much😂😂
Literally came here to post, "Is that Jet Blue pilot laughing at them?!" 😆
It's giving "the worst she can say is no" vibes. 🤣
Unprofessional imo. She gave the eating popcorn and make fun of others vibes.
@@andreea007 Bet she couldn't even land that 747
didnt get that, where is the giggle ?? min:sec please😃
What a legend. Stayed calm, cool and professional.
It’s Lufthansa after all.
And no excuses
This video has it all! Beautiful Lufthansa 747-800 coming into LAX in perfect focus. Then the goofiest bounce landing ever recorded. The simultaneous commentary "oh, oH, OH, HOLY MOLY GOO--ING AROUND -- that was the roughest landing I think we've ever caught!" Then the Jet Blue pilot laughing. Then the pilot humbly admitting his landing sucked. And then, hilariously, being asked 5 different times why he's going around. And lastly, punks like me all over the world, sitting in our underwear and judging your work performance.... LOL Hilarious! Poor Lufthansa pilot... you gotta know this video is on continuous loop in their Frankfurt lunchroom. It's ok Lufthansa guy.... we all have bad days, and you demonstrated your ability to quickly salvage the situation. I love the fact you owned it, and I wish you a long, successful career...
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Aviation is not mistake-free field. What I like about this is there's no drama, the pilot just admitted his honest mistake. Don't worry man, you'll get it next time.
I guess the pilot flying and doing the two landings was not the guy on the radio, this would not have been normal.
@@PeterNGloor Probably after the Go-Around the roles were switched and the second Approach performed by the Captain as Pilot Flying.
Big shout out to the engineers that designed and built that landing gear..
an engineering masterpiece along with the rest of the 747!
Just amazing. Props to the engineers.
This is the type of thing that has to make you respect the amount of engineering that goes into modern airplanes. The stress on the struts, wheels, tires... everything just in the gear... amazing. Glad they were able to make it on the 2nd attempt! No bad feelings for the pilot, this is one he'll never forget and hopefully learn from and look back at in the future and think "whoa, rookie!" All good from here onwards!
I destroyed brand new lower control arm and the right new lower ball joint snapped because the manufacturer didn’t put any grease in the ball joint, and that was hitting a big pothole that was tiny the day before after some flooding, I was traveling at 120kmh though I was lucky as although I lost control with the steering wheel snap back, I just took my foot off the accelerator, and I ended up in the opposite lane, but thankfully I just had paddocks either side of the road at that spot and no other cars coming in the other lane. The ball joint snapped after I got to work and went to turn right so I had been at a stop, so it was very low speed thank goodness. My mechanic had another guy do his engine mounts that were new the same way the parts were from the same company.
Even the innermost right-wing flap looks like it was under stress during the bouncing, too
Nobody is going to let him forget. Ever.
We’ve all done it. Every pilot has a few of these in their highlight reels of the career. Best thing you can do is learn from it, put it behind you and move forward. It’s bad enough every passenger is witness to a bad landing, this poor guy has his splashed on the internet.
I was on a 747 into Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport on my way to Malaysia. Pilot landed long, very long. I’ve never been on a plane that braked so hard. Ran out the entire length and almost couldn’t make the last exit. Was so shaky under an hour wait before we left for KUL but this time was several hours.
Indeed.
I saw the sticker on the back - "STUDENT DRIVER"
They should offer 50% discount to the passengers before takeoff.
Glad that both aircraft and pax did not take any damage - I flew on that airframe on April 9th from FRA to MIA, it's the 1500th 747 ever produced :)
Indeed. Delivered in June 2014 to Lufthansa.
Nice. I flew FRA-ORD on the one in the retro livery (with the blue stripe down the middle) back on the 3rd. During his pre-flight welcome announcement, the Captain described the 748 as the most beautiful airliner ever built. He's not wrong.
@@vbscript2 Lufthansa was the launch customer for the 748. And as it's also launch customer for the 777X, the Captain will have the opportunity of flying 747s at least a decade longer than initially planned. Thank you Boeing!
You can hear the Jetblue pilot holding back laughter lol
I probably would not be laughing. It would have shocked me pretty good. Big gulp.
Those Arline Videos guys sound like they're radio announcers for a baseball game.
This is why sometimes it is best to just be quiet and let ATC give the best play-by-play commentary. I understand ATC better than I do the people hosting that feed.
You a hater at least they got the footage to show the world
@@athlonenoh be quiet, he was in the moment. Geez you people need a fn life!
I love watching those AVL streams! I think he is a longtime videographer for LA TV stations but somehow turned this into a gig. Pretty awesome :)
They are fairly calm when compared to Railfans, lol.
u can tell his voice was shaking aftewards, presumabily the training captain took control after so the initial flying pilot is now on the radios.
yep.
Hmm wasn’t he also on the radio before the landing?
This makes no sense at all. Same pilot was on coms the entire time so that means the other pilot not speaking was in control of the plane the entire time.
@@Dfpijgyt564s65sgt You can literally hear it's a different guy, he says the reason for the go around was 'MY landing'
@@Dfpijgyt564s65sgt not the same pilot. Clearly two different voices.
Great job coordinating with Kevin for this, VERY awesome!
AVL is the best
He sounded so defeated 😢 poor guy😭😭😭
What was the reason for the go around? -- “It was mechanical. The landing gear failed to adequately negotiate the physical impact with the concrete resulting in an immediate GTFO response by the runway thus necessitating a mandatory go around.”
"The runway came up and hit us."
@@mehere8299 "License and registration, please"
@@omgsrsly😂😂😂
We all have bad landings buddy! all good!
Please be careful when opening the overhead bin as your luggage has most definitely shifted after that landing attempt.
Everyone has to start somewhere. That was a rough landing, but in time that trainee pilot will get it right.
lol.
How bout back to the simulator
You don’t train with passengers! This is totally unacceptable
@@fhowland Every airline world wide does line training. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about.
@@fhowlandlol here comes the comment section experts
That’s the pilot you want flying a plane! ‘What was the problem’ ‘I just didn’t do a great job’ ‘Okay are you ready to try it again’ ‘Yes’ Piloting and performance driving have many similarities: confidence and composure are the biggest factors in being skilled.
Thank you for all your hard work!
Thank you for your support
I recall this little ditty from one of my training captains, 'back in the day...: "Always remember and never forget. Your NEXT landing could be your worst one yet!" (i.e. that one's over - move on and watch out for the next one, and the next one, and the next..)
As one Juan B would say, “KABLAMO!!”. I bet that airplane is getting one serious hard landing inspection after this hard hit and bounce.
Professional pilot, good accountability, it happens and he handled it nicely… wish him luck on his piloting journey
AirlineVideos’ yelling in the background audio adds so much to this 🤣 Imagine being that pilot and watching this video to just find a bunch of “HoLy MolY” and “that’s the HARDEST landing” 💀😂😂
Was waiting for ATC to give the infamous phone number
@@JeanClaudeCOCO Why would ATC do that? He performed a go-around, and didn't violate any ATC instructions.
JetBlue holding short laughing at that landing lmaooo
I was on the east coast and could feel that impact. Amazing tires surviving a heavy hit
Oh, those mains are designed to take a beating. The nose gear, not so much, but having already initiated the go-around prevented the nose gear from hitting very hard. It *did* hit, but not bad enough to damage it. If they hadn't already started the go-around, then it would have porpoised much worse.
"...uuuuh my landing kinda sucked. We'll give it another try." We all been there man, I'm messing with you.
A good landing is one you can walk away from. A great landing is one where you can use the aircraft again. 😊
Shxx happens. I hope this pilot is able to continue his path to flying the 74.
Note to the "sudden tailwind" Airbus pilot last week, this pilot owned it. No BS.
Watched it live. Rough landing on the first attempt, but that was the absolute correct choice to go around after rather than force it. The sort of decision making you want from a well trained pilot. The second attempt was nothing, but butter. It happens to all pilots
Wow, that was a Touchdown!😮 - The Pilot was honest about why it happened, that´s the good point at this story. Probably a really uncomfortable moment for the Passengers. Thank you very much for picking this incident up!👍
Love to see the channel collaboration!
bro forgot how high the cockpit sits up in the 747 lol! Ive done it many times in MSFS after flying a 320 or 737 u forgot how much higher the cockpit is in the 747 ...
"Lufthansa 456...just for our paperwork, and the gasps, the screaming, and all the KZhead comments you're about to get blasted with....what was the reason for the go-around?" 😂 You know it's a bad day at work when your landing gets "rated" by your wife, neighbors, unborn children, and rest of the planet watching KZhead before you even get a second chance after the initial TOGA! 😮
Yes, indeed!😃👍
He did a heck of a lot better than I world of
Yes, keyboard commando's with juvenile minds will think that way "rated".... user name checks out
Marvelous video! Thank you! 💜
Once again, thanks, Kevin for sharing this video.
awesome engineering at work, thanks for that awesome catch, loved the bounce!
He must've transitioned to the 747 recently. The world looks entirely different from that high up. He just flared a bit too late. (No, I don't fly them, but have had the privilege of riding in the cockpit.)
lmao the JetBlue pilot giggle is killing me
It’s kinda funny but also wildly unprofessional. Never good when dealing with peoples lives. Lots of people.
@@amg2022 I see why it seems that way but we all wind each other up about this kind of thing all the time. Every single pilot in the world has either slammed one in like that, or they’re lying. I’ve had Cabin Crew say all kinds of things like “did we land or did we crash”, or Air Traffic Control say “if your landing gear is still attached vacate at xyz” The poor guy will learn from it and one day he’ll laugh at someone for it too!
@@jamesbartholomew1481& he’ll have great reason to laugh esp seeing as he's been there done that
I was flying into LAX last August? We were in line to land on 25L and then they had an "incident on the field" and we were told to break off the approach and fly runway heading, climb maintain 3000. We did that and then they vectored us. So we go way hell and gone half way to to Ontario when they turn us in and it OBVIOUS that this is not going to work, we are going to wind up 2 miles behind an Airbus. I point this out to ATC "you know this isn't going to WORK". We are now down to 9800 pounds of fuel. I don't like landing a 767 with less than 11,000 pounds of fuel at the ALTERNATE or anything like that. So we were vectored another approach and they got us in but there was More drama; They cleared Kalitta Air to take off, and while those guys are usually very quick to take off, in this instance they were slow and we had to keep calling them: Kalitta, are you on the roll?" No response. Finally they lifted off and we reached the gate with a bit over 9000 pounds of fuel, way lower than I like! Normally LAX is pretty good. I cannot believe that Lufthansa was happy with landing on that short 24R; Sounds like a recipe for hot brakes to me.... Great video!
ugh. I hate LAX
i just know the pilot flying is not going to talk at the team dinner at the hotel tonight😅
Can we all take a moment to appreciate that someone on that flight deck, maybe even the trainee, put the gear up promptly after an exciting bounce? Good on them!
Can't wait to see Kelsey, over at 74 Gear, do an analysis of this one!
I think I know how the thumbnail will look like.
Pretty sure he'd tell us the pilot flared 4 seconds too late.
That was my first thought. What will Kelsey say?
And seeing how many armchair pilots say something here, I am also looking forward to his video … Go Kelsey! 😂
Right thing to do. Don't make a bad landing worse by trying to save it.
Exactly.
Thanks AIRLINE VIDEO dudes - these are the best Mashups!
Me in MSFS. These things happen, the pilot owned it. He was in training. When he's an older 747 Captain one day he will have a story for the young aviators HE will be training! Onward and upward. Great video specially the sync with the video.
Good job by pilot not trying to force the landing after the first bounce, which we’ve seen far too many times and it rarely ends well.
Total respect for anyone trying to land one of these monsters 👏
Was JetBlue 2836 holding back a laugh? 😂
Watched that go around live!!! It was crazy. Props to Kevin and Airline Videos
He throttled up as soon as reasonable. Nice job.
That's why you buckle up during landing, kids. I'm no pilot, but the first attempt looked like he was coming in *rather HOT* .
He got a chance for a re-do. From ATC it sounds like he was coming in hot. The next landing was probably a thing of beauty. Thanks Airline Videos. The footage gave a real feeling of what happened. You guys do good work.
The next landing was a bit of a floater but much, much better
I thought ATC was making a bit of room to get the departure out on the same runway, I think 24L is closed.
second landing was the captain, not the trainee
@@batshevanivylerner8582 Thanks for the clarification.
Holy moly indeed.
The good news in this video is that Lufthansa is obviously planning to keep their Queens of the Sky in passenger operation for a longer period of time. Recently they had to cancel several transatlantic flights due to a shortage in available pilots with a 747 type rating (due to illness). So, to the pilot in this video: keep at it! 👍🏻 We.need you to keep the 747s up. And watch some videos in which Kelsey (74Gear) admits how he has slammed the plane into the ground but that he has been lucky that nobody filmed it. (Nowadays at LAX - no chance!) Just like him, I’m sure this will have been a valuable learning experience. Good luck!
Kelsey also mainly flies the non-self loading type of cargo which can't complain about the bouncing.
He will have a good long career as a pilot. Great decision making skills.
The lower deck passenger *definitely* felt that Big ups for the pilot for immediate TOGA
I was on an Alaska Air flight a couple years ago that hit hard like that. Without the lap belts we would have been tossed out of our seats. Pilot decided to ride it out and keep it on the ground. By the time we were stable enough to brake we were halfway down the runway. Brake application bounced my head off the seat in front of me. It was a wild ride.
I heard from other 747 pilots that for new pilots, it can be difficult to judge the flare due to the height of the cockpit.
Lufthansa pilot taking responsibility for his landing. Respect we are all human
"It was my landing and unstable approach". haha. This pilot is a legend. Man it was way to fast.
Well that's how nicknames in aviation are born lol. Everyone here appreciate his honesty, one could say, by being humble, he bounced back from a bad situation
EVERYONE is a beginner in the beginning. That is just how it works. And EVERYONE makes mistakes now and then. That is just how it works. I do mistakes at work now and then, despite been working there for 15 years. That is just, how it works. And everything went as it should: Perfectly executed go-around and then a new try. And the plane is designed to take really hard landings. The brutal tests that are done on wings and landing gears and frame are amazing, and terrifying, to watch!
The 748 is not the easiest aircraft to land smoothly I imagine, other hard landing videos on the web as well. Last year, I got my first chance to fly in this awesome plane, IAH-FRA and FRA-IAH. The first landing at FRA was very nice and smooth. The landing at IAH was definitely on the hard side (nowhere as hard as this one, but it would definitely wake you up if you were not by that time for some reason).
hey,, he has that much more experience now ! all is well
He pancaked that sucker. Stress-testing the landing gear. Pilot be thinking: "Where is my ground effect ?!?!?" 😆
Thats a strong landing gear :)
I respect his honesty
I was hoping for this collab. Maybe add an @blancolirio commentary video as well! The KZhead airline trifecta
I bet the rest of that pilot's landings will be butter-smooth from here on out!
It’s a shame they didn’t include the Airline Videos footage of the second landing (unless the PIP was hiding behind one of KZhead’s thumbnails). The commentary actually said “like butter”.
Great job putting this together, Victor.
It is not a go-around, but a touch-and-touch-and-go
Well done VAS! Great video!
"What's the reason for to go-around?" "I suck." "Gotcha."
Me and my friends were just talking about this in discord, then you post this during our conversation about, such perfect timing.
Listen that was an amazing recovery and able to hit the jets just in time
Saw this on Twitter and my first thought was that it must be fake. Unusual for a Lufty. That was some landing! 😮 Glad it all turned out alright in the end.
Nice GoAround ! Bad landings happens is worse when they don’t accept to make a go around.
My dude dropped it like it's hot.
RYANAIR senior pilot got transfered to LUFTHANSA
Should've shown the second landing! He buttered it...sometimes second time is the charm
I'm quite sure the one that landed the second time is not the same guy than the first one
The jetBlue laughing... LOL!!
Going in hot! 🔥
My respect to all pilots on earth. We have to trust you. I always say thank you to them as soon as we land safely. Nothing is taken for granted!
What are the ods someone was videoing the landing,,, what kind of show is that? Random guy with his camera filming planes? Cool 👍🏻
The same thing happened to me on my first solo cross country; it was the scariest thing I have ever experienced. It was such a surreal feeling!
now that is a 5 star skytrax landing