The Woman who Became Pope
2018 ж. 14 Там.
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The myth of Pope Joan and the real scandals of the medieval Church that led to the Gregorian Reform.
According to a popular tale, a clever woman once secretly ascended St. Peter's throne and ruled as "Pope Joan." While this tale is a myth, the Medieval papacy devolved into even more interesting scandals which set the stage for the Gregorian Reform movement. We will look at the low point of Europe's oldest monarchy and its amazing rebound in the later Middle Ages.
I actually saw the 1972 Pope Joan movie years&years ago. It was on a late night television movie. I remember being completely absorbed through the entire film. I give it a big thumbs up & definitely going to look for it & watch it again. Interesting & informative lecture......Thank you bringing Pope Joan's story out of the shadows!!
Questions should be held until the end. All of the questions that interrupted the lecture added nothing. All of them could have be answered with "i'm getting to that, please hold your question and it will be answered in the lecture". Its hilarious that an hour into your lecture your audience, based on their interruptions, are still not aware you're talking about a folktale not a historical event. It kind of speaks to the power of this myth, that people are so insistent on talking it as reality even after an hour of explaining to them it's not.
Yeah, a lot of these lectures are made excruciating by the constantly talking audience just not getting anything he's saying.
42:30 - This weird modern notion that medieval peasants were slackjawed morons incapable of understanding anything that happened outside their own huts rears its head again. The lecturer briefly can't suppress his incredulity, although he does a good job of recovering and answering politely, as always.
Even when lecturing on absolute fake bunkum, John researches it widely, explains it thoroughly, and makes it extremely interesting and understandable.
Thanks!
I just watched this: QI Series A, Episode 5, 'Advertising' with Stephen Fry, Alan Davies, Gyles Brandreth, Rob Brydon and Rich Hall. Where Gyles mentions this Papal check = searching for information on Pope Joan = lead me here, to have you say it was said by Stephen! = ? Facts need checking somewhere along the line... we don't want people to believe a myth do we? 🤣
John does an excellent job on all his lectures If you read the scriptures, which I do in Greek, Peter says to Jesus: you are the Messiah! Jesus says yes and for that reason I have the keys to the kingdom, not Peter. Office of Pope and his authority is made up
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"It's not true, but we want it to be." Now THAT'S what's true! :-)
WAAAGH 🙊
I believe that when they stripped pope Formosus of his papal finery, they found he had been wearing a hair shirt , similarly there was a cardinal in Italy who was attacked, post WWII, as a fascist, because he had blessed the Italian troops etc , however after his death, miracles were attributed to his intercession and his body was exhumed and found to be perfectly incorrupt and there are pictures of his relic online .
Pictures on the internet- must be true. Someone should investigate and get a Nobel prize
I'd like to know how girls dressed back then, knowing that boy monks worse long dresses and hoods to hide their heir!
I am surprised that you even have to explain how women were kept in subservient positions to your group. She broke the line Popes and humiliated the church. And duped all those learned men who were supposed to be so highlŷ educated and for such along time.
She really only broke male succession, not succession, if she existed. But yes.
@@clarekuehn4372 actually succession, as the office of sole key holder is one of succession Biblically! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink
Precisely how, aside from the social roles attributed to the wife and the mother in the Middle Ages, were women kept subservient? Maybe in other parts of Europe; Italy, at least the kingdoms that made up the term, were fantastically progressive, and women held, relatively speaking, as many of the rights men enjoyed. This isn’t Arabia a bunch of Bedouin tribes, and it also isn’t by coincidence that the values of humanism And enlightenment would spring from Catholic roots in Italian city-states.
@@matthewbroderick6287 what about the evil popes? That breaks down your succession right there. Curious if you know about the evil popes?
@The Dude what about the evil Popes? King David and his successor, King Solomon, also set over the flock by God, committed adultery and murder and allowed for the worship of false gods! Your point? The office was never taken away! Peace always in Jesus Christ our Great and Kind God and Savior, He whose Flesh is true food and Blood true drink
Jesus is the rock! Hello?
No myth👀
Women and their bodies are connected to the earth. The anathema is the true Sophia Christ, I guess you could say ANTEchrist, not anti meaning against, but anti meaning before
Fascinating lecture. Kudos to John Hammer!