How to use a Transmission Dipstick
Do you think you know the proper way to use an automatic transmission dipstick? It may be a lot more complex than you ever imagined.
This video is intended for students in the online AUSV 2520 Automatic Transmissions class at Weber State University in Ogden, Utah. This class is normally taught face-to-face, but due to the COVID-19 Pandemic, I am attempting to offer the class material online. Suggested quiz questions are shown below the video timeline.
TIMELINE:
0:00 Introduction
1:00 Two pages of dipstick instructions
1:40 Preliminary Checks and procedures
2:30 Transmission fluid temperature monitoring
3:05 Cold Check Procedure
4:30 Results of the first cold level check 80 Degrees F (26.7 C)
5:23 Results of the second cold level check 84 Degrees F (28.9 C)
6:20 MUST-SEE: The real purpose of the "Cold" range on the dipstick
7:25 Fluid color and condition check
9:26 The engine warms up quickly, the transmission slowly
9:47 Waiting for the transmission fluid to reach 160 degrees F (71.1 C) for the Hot Check Procedure
10:28 Ran out of gas, Shop Vehicles!
12:15 Unable to drive training vehicles to warm up the transmission more quickly
13:42 Fluid level check after 56 minutes of idling at 144 Degrees F (62.2 C) still too cold.
14:00 Dipstick latch and seal function
16:38 Results of the fluid level check after 84 minutes of idling at 160 Degrees F (71.1 C)
17:09 Hot check procedure
18:08 Interpreting the results of the hot fluid level check
19:38 Must See: Results of the fluid level check after 84 minutes of idling at 170 Degrees F (76.7 C)
19:53 Must See: Results of the fluid level check after 84 minutes of idling at 180 Degrees F (82.2 C)
20:11 Must See: Results of the fluid level check after 84 minutes of idling at 190 Degrees F (87.8 C)
20:45 Video summary
22:05 Results of the cold fluid level check with the engine off
22:40 Some transmission fluid levels are checked with the engine off
23:18 Why the dipstick has been removed on many modern vehicles
23:59 Different types and styles of dipsticks
Questions for Teachers:
1. Does the vehicle need to be parked on a level surface or an inclined surface?
2. Does the engine need to be running during the fluid level checking procedure?
3. If the engine must be running, at what engine rpm should the fluid level be checked?
4. If the engine must be running at a specified rpm, how will you verify the proper rpm?
5. If the engine must be off, are there any conditions that must be met before checking the fluid level?
6. Are there any procedures that must be met before checking the fluid level?
7. Does the transmission cooler have a bypass valve? If so, how does it affect the ATF fluid level?
8. At what temperature range should the cold fluid level be checked?
9. At what temperature range should the hot fluid level be checked?
10. What temperature is being referred to in the previous question? Outside air? Coolant temperature? Transmission fluid temperature?
11. How should you measure that temperature?
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@Doctor MENGELE Park is safer than neutral. There is no difference in most transmissions.
"Do you think you know the proper way to use an automatic transmission dipstick? It may be a lot more complex than you ever imagined.". Thank you for emphasizing this statement.
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Good to see you again Professor.
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Thanks! Interesting info. I have always thought that if it was cold and showed in the cold it was ok. Lesson learned. Thanks for your continued commitment. I always enjoy your lessons. Stay well.
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Glad you are healthy Professor during these difficult times! Lesson learned with temperature versus readings.
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As always---Superb by one of THE best instructors in this world. Thank you John Kelly
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Thank you Professor and in these critical times, please be safe to keep doing such great videos!
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Well come back Professor, great content us usual. Thanks.
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Very interesting and educational, Professor. Thank you for sharing.
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Great information you the only one on KZhead who explained how to check the ZF transmission fluid Thank you for your efforts Sir
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I'm enlightened thanks to you sir. GMC owner for years now do all my vehicle maintenance . Except transmission work . Whole different animal. Glad I found you, was putting off deciphering instruction manual. Thanks again
thanks for that information. I ve always observed the transmission temps and seen how the dipstick levels rise with temperature. this is very interesting information. another thing that can effect transmission fluid level readings are incorrectly calibrated dipsticks especially if a transmission has been rebuilt or replaced. thank you so much for this video.
Awesome John, I am not student but I had been looking for the logics and true method of measuring for last 2 years and here I landed today finally. Thanks for the class.
I just opened a car service shop here in Brasil. This information is golden! Thank you so much for making it available. This went way beyond what i expected. Please keep posting, it's very helpful :).
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This is the type of nerdy information that I want. Thank you for sharing
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I appreciate your wealth of information and knowledge. Finally someone that I can listen to and stay engaged in the topic and keeps my attention.
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Good to see you again, Professor! And I agree with the comments above, if there is anyone who should teach online, it is you. Sure, nothing will replace hand-on experience, however given the weird times we are living in now, your online classes are as useful, as ever
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Thorough and accurate review as usual good video, Thanks
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Great instructions and teaching. We’ll done sir!
I have just watched it and that was one of the best and most precise video I have seen on youtube.
Excellent work and information . Thank you
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Even after pandemic please keep making these videos available online,,, & more
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And to think, I just checked it and I thought it was low at 135 degrees " cold". Glad I seen this video. You probably saved my tail. THANKS Subscribed !!
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I like your use of OEM data
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well said professor Kelly...as usual!
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Very interesting information I dind't realize how important these marks were. Thank you very much for this lecture and please, stay safe from this covid19 thing. It hits us hard here in Europe.
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Thank you Professor. I just changed both filters and Transmission Fluid on my 2002 GMC Sierra HD 2500. I was having difficulty on trying to figure out how much automatic transmission fluid to add so I started with 7 quarts as a baseline. I read the dip stick cold and it was barely in the cold zone. Your video helped immensely! Thanks so much for your information. , I graduated WSC, Class of 1984, Go Wildcats!
I changed fluid and filter used Dexron VI with factory cooler and deep pan is not easy to get the fluid right
Yeah sir some of us knuckle heads like me need your guidance 🙏. Good looking out kind sir.
this is insane! i like.
man o man such quality info oh ya i are a dipstick,ur vids r the best thanku
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Very informative video, thank you. Can you explain what to do when the dipstick is hard to read because the fluid seems to be all over the place (smearing on the dipstick) ? For example on a Corolla 2013
Great vid professor. I miss dipsticks on cars, lol. Wish they would make a comeback.
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I appreciate you.
Thank You for this, to bad many transmissions do not have a dip stick..
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very educative thank you.
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Following the procedure is important. After changing springs in the valve body on my Mercedes' transmission, I thought I would be smart and shortcut the add 1/2 of the fluid, start the engine, then add the remainder of the fluid procedure the manual calls for. After adding the full fluid charge and starting the engine, the fluid got whipped up into a froth, and about a quart was ejected from the vent onto the driveway. Lesson learned! Of course now I had no idea how much fluid was in the pan, so the add - check - add - check rounds took significantly longer than if I'd done the proper procedure originally.
My old school turbo 400 was easy to check The 4t65E and 4L60E are real.pain the the rear. Pant pocket . My Silverado is the most difficult with deep pan takes long drive to get it right then still little off. GM owners manual drive the truck in 3rd for 13 mikes, slowly shift each gear pausing in each gear Let idle for 3 minutes pull out the dipstick wipe clean fully insert wait 3 seconds then check repeat to compare readings go by the lowest reading I'm ready to say you do it Has it right once not since. Thanks for the video you know your stuff. I worked 3 years at Ford dealership yet drove GM. What I know about Ford's is like your trans class. It shows your experience.
Wow something learned... I always check hot. didnt know some require a engine off check. owners manual if they tell you!! they probably dont all the time. Thank you for wasting 2.5 hours for a 15 minuite task for us. Wow again in that who would have guessed it would take so long without driving. Only on Weber!! Thank you Professor John. (PJ)
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Wow at 22:30 in you ANSWERED my question!!! Awesome! So glad I got a master's degree so I have the patience to sit through this lecture. hahahah. thanks
Good info
Once up to temp , should have move the select switch to reverse 10 seconds , Drive 10 seconds and so on through all the ranges while of of course holding the breaks. Looking at your dipstick on this vids shows in reality the transmission is not over filled. Three millimeters over the last circle is not over filled. Great video 👍
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It's midnight here in Italy, but there's always time for a lesson from Professor John Kelly! Professor, any news about the Tesla? I can't wait to watch your videos about that car!
Thank you! I am waiting on finding to obtain a wrecked Tesla to disassemble, but it could be a while now. Stay safe!
@@WeberAuto Thank you! I was sure that in one of your videos from a while ago you said you already got a tesla to teardown. I must have remembered badly.
Modern transmissions don’t leak nearly as often as the transmissions of yore, no need to be checking the fluid levels as much. So if you notice a transmission leak then it’s a given that it’s low on fluid and must be repaired. That’s my story anyway! Great video as usual!
Thank you for your feedback. That is true s long as the transmission was filled properly in the beginning (which is not always the case).
It’s so aggravating when manufacturers don’t put a transmission temp gauge in the instrument cluster! That’s so frustratinggg. It’s a vital component of any vehicle and I think it should be included. Thanks again, great video
Good video! Could I suggest the additional of information as to how far up the dipstick would be considered absolutely too far, as well as how to extract a small amount through the DS tube to bring the level down within the compliant range?
People may roll their eyes at this video, but they are the same people who are doing it wrong. I've worked as an auto tech for 15 years and I've seen many techs do this wrong. I regularly see vehicles come in with over or under filled transmissions (usually overfilled if someone else has serviced it). I've seen it countless times where a lube tech (or even some veterans) will service a transmission, check the fluid once in the shop then immediately put it in the parking lot. Not only is that poor quality control (vehicles should be driven after most repairs to ensure that they drive properly) but it is the wrong procedure. Flat rate pay and other external influences (like a boss who wants 6 hours of work done in 3) teach some techs bad habits. Thank you for the video!
Thank you very much
I'm an auto tech and at work I check cold after a drain and fill (Toyota/Lexus mostly) and if good i go and drive it and then recheck after a drive with scan tool connected to watch temps. If I work on a car I'm unfamiliar with I always try to find the procedure from the manufacturer. It's amazing how many techs do NOT do this. Or fill to the hot mark when cold and never recheck. Mostly because transmission drain and fills don't pay well as far as labor so they just want to get the car out so they can get in a better paying job. Too bad labor rates don't account for the complexity of fluid adjustment procedures, if it did then maybe more techs would take the time...or maybe not.
Thank for your feedback. I know exactly what you mean. The flat rate pay system promotes sloppy work in some shops.
great video i agree 100% the only question is why did gm overfill it its a 2014 and almost bet the fluid has never been checked or serviced so it was filled in the factory??? but you are correct about the hot level.
thank, you for you're video. my question is theirs a 97, Dodge ram 2500 van for sale siting in a level parking lot. with out starting up the van because the owner was not around at that time. the first thing I did was just pulled the trans stick on the van and I notice the reading on the stick it read full. is this normal?
Thank you so much Professor for demonstrating this procedure. I have been doing transmissions for 34 years and the fluid check procedures are typically not completed correctly. Generally speaking when I get a transmission that has a dipstick the fluid level is not correct. It has either been serviced and was not properly checked as you demonstrated and the fluid level is too low or too high or someone has added fluid and again did not follow the necessary procedures and the unit is over full. This is a critical check and always has been. To add another wrinkle to this on some transmissions like the 8L90 which does not have a dipstick actually has in the fluid level check procedure instructions to bring the fluid temperature above 194 F to allow the thermal bypass valve to open to allow for circulation into the cooler and then shut the vehicle off and allow the fluid to cool down to 95-113 F and then recheck the level again. Very time consuming procedure. I call your attention to document ID 5048620 in GM service information. What is interesting on the 6L80 and 6L90 model transmissions is when the transmission fluid is very cold say like 32 F. The level will actually be below the full cold mark. Check it out sometime. This model transmission when it comes to fluid level is quite sensitive to temperature. As a rule on this transmission it is best practice when filling to bring the initial fill up to the bottom part of the full cold range when doing the cold check procedure. It will be safe to drive. Road test it to get the fluid up to the 180 F range and set the level in about the middle to maybe a little over the middle of the hot range. This will prevent the over fill when it gets to are above the 200 F. Again, appreciate how thorough you are on these topics. I will use this video when I am training new techs from now on.
Thanks for your feedback! The cold mark on the 6L80 and 6L90 is only accurate at 80-90 degrees F. It is normal to be lower than that at colder temperatures.
You're thinking with your dipstick again, Jimmy...
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Thank you so much, this is what I am looking for after trying many clips on you tube and Googlings to solve auto transmission issue of my car. I am also wondering why there is nothing mentions for checking the transmission fluid level in car manual (Mitsubishi Pajero Sport 2012) I am confusing and first belleive that "cold" mark is used for reading at engine stop and cool down several hours or over night. That is why the reading is exceeding the "hot" mark for half an inch which seems to over fill. So did in opposite way by draining the fluid out. I have just understood by this clip that the "cold" means the low transmission fluid temperature when just start an engine or run idle. It does not refer to the engine temperature at all. Until let the auto transmission running for an hour, if idle, the transmiistion fluid rises up to the specified range, then we measure and adjust the fluid level accordingly.
Question So I drove my 03 4.8 sierra for one hour highway speed. Parked and the ATF level was under the low dot hot. This morning checked it before starting it and level is like you said half inch over the hot full mark. So in low in ATF right? Seems like the cold mark is irrelevant since it goes way over when cold
Do you think manual transmissions will become extent? I hate automatic but a friend gave me a truck with an automatic. I nursed the engine back to health but I struggled with changing transmission fluid to the marks on the dipstick.correctly. Didn't understand until watching your video. You sir have a great voice for this! So, thanks, I look forward to viewing another video. Oh, and keep safe. Thank you.
The trans temp can be raised with higher engine RPM in park or a mild power braking.
Yes, thank you
What do you mean power breaking?
@@muhanned700 Hold the foot brake, put the car in Drive, and press the the throttle some. Some service info says to not do this for the reasons of checking the transmission fluid level. Perhaps because it will heat the torque converter faster than the rest of the transmission?
Hi, this information is very useful for me. I'm in Australia and my car is a 2011 Hyundai I30. I have questions, I don't have a scan tool and don't know where the driver information center is, because I'm not a car mechanic. Can I measure the temperature of a liquid using an infrared thermometer? So what will happen if the ATF level rises above the hot level mark when it is at operating temperature. Why when the liquid is at the correct level on the hot mark but when cold it becomes lower than the cold mark? Or vice versa, please help answer my question. Thanks in advance. Regards Rusli
I love how he's just zooming around in and out of frame haha
Put it in drive and brake torque it for about two minutes That should really increase the fluid temperature or put it in drive and let the torque converter slip?
Years ago I have my ZF5HP30 serviced. I watched them and they did not use a scan tool and everything was so hot that there was no way the temperature could be between 30°C and 35°C . On the way home the transmission made some air in pump noises under some situations, so I let the car cool over night and followed the procedure and got another litre into it. Interestinly there was only a short period of time where the temperature was correct to replace the fille plug.
Very true, you need to be prepared for that small window of time. Thanks for your feedback
Didn't realize it took that long to heat up a transmission by idling.
It does take a long time. Thanks for watching
Mr John Kelley, I hope you answer 2 questions below. (2007 Nissan Maxima) On the CVT dip stick, the "2 dot" (I assume "cold") emblem and "hot" emblem; are far away from each other; over 2 inches. After I have driven the car for a long time, the stick shows the fluid half way between the "2 dot" emblem. I assume I NEED fluid NOW! Do you agree or disagree? Note: I just had my CVT fluid changed at my Nissan dealer where I bought the car 13 yrs ago. But the odometer is not even reached 48K miles yet. I am afraid they have done something that can damage my transmission. Do you agree or disagree? I would be very appreciate your answering the questions kind Sir.
Drive the car for 15 minutes. Go through the whole gears (3 to 5 seconds on each one). Stop the engine on drive (D) and wait between 10 to 15 minutes. Check the dipstick (if you have one), once, twice, three, four and even 5 times until you get the right reading. Then you'll know if it's underfilled, overfilled or at the right level (Top Hot Level) is the right reading,
Hello. Hope you are staying safe.
Thank you! I am doing my best
Professor, if my car doesnt exceed 100 km per hour, and the transmission fluid is ok and is on the required level, what can be the cause? And what can be fixed?
As a dipstick consumer, I only own one automatic transmission. When I finally checked it after paying for an expensive service, I noticed the entire casting was flawed. Then learned some honda ridgelines have flawed transmission castings, that leak. Then realized the dealer had just sold me on a rear seal for said transmission, all the while knowing it didn't need one.... I realize now that I may have not have fully understood the check procedure, however, screw those lying dealers too. At least I still have a dipstick, and I wouldn't trust any work done by any dealer tbh. That was honda. I've had similar experiences with BMW. I preemptively had them replace a ton of plastic coolant parts as a preventative maintenance. They become brittle after 15 years. They had so many excuses when temperatures were not stable. The dealer didn't realize they cracked a brand new coolant cover. I finally found it, repaired it, and had stable temps again after many visits, and complimentary A/C recharges? I'll never understand their thinking on the AC regarding temp problems. I guess my point is, if it's too complicated for the dipstick consumer, I'd argue it's too complicated for the techs and unscrupulous dealers. If we can't even verify, then they can lie.... Why bother having gauges too. I learned a lot in this video, and always enjoy your videos professor :) The reason I typically watch, is because I get more insight, more specifications, and more exposure to information about whatever you are looking at, then is typically made available to me, as a dipstick consumer. Which I think is wrong as a dipstick owner. It seems like I should be able to screw up my car with the same access to information a dealer uses to screw up my car :) I didn't mean to rant. But, no dipstick is code for a 100,000 mile product imo.
Glad to see that you're doing well professor! I hope that we can be back to normal soon. Now, what about transmissions that don't have a dipstick? Is it possible to check those too, or just wait until something goes wrong and let the TCU tell us about it? Thanks, and stay safe. Edit: that truck must be a real gas guzzler if it runs out of gas just idling! (just kidding) ;-) Would the transmission temp go up faster if the truck was held in place with the parking brake and in drive?
Thank you! Yes, it is possible to check the fluid level on transmissions without dipsticks, but it is a lot more difficult. Yes, the transmission would warm up faster with the transmission in drive with the brake applied, but I wanted to see how long it would take with it just idling.
It's actuality quite easy. I have done it on many vehicles.
I want to know about VW JETTA 5 2007 model 1.6 BSF how to check gearbox oil
Can you do a CVT or NISSAN CVT , (it has none/dipstick)?thanks for coming back
Thank you, yes. It is on my list
I have a gmc 07 Yukon xl 6.0 1500 my truck stop I see transmission coming out of the dipstick. But I have been checking it yes I have seen when it past hot I never knew so what that means
Professor it states to select ALL gear ranges not just REVERSE, NEUTRAL AND DRIVE. To flood the transmission fluid galleries this has to be done in just about every transmission we have serviced. Not being critical but if the objective is to get the absolute correct level, ALL gear selections need to be engaged for 3 seconds as the service bulletin states. Thankyou.
Yes, thank you. We actually went through all gear ranges, but the only other range below Drive was "M"; it showed up as "Drive" on the GM scan tool.
This is exactly what I was thinking. And it is important to select all gear ranges before checking fluid is at correct operating temperature too. Not just when checking cold level. Don't you think? But excellent videos anyway. Easy to understand even though my native language is not English.
He knows his shit.
Sure wish you could do this for the Toyotas my parents have a 2008 Highlander with the V6 they took it to the shop and have them change the transmission fluid supposedly with a WS fluid after I checked it though it was way low and I kept telling my father you have to check it when the engine is running and you have to check it at two points when the engine first starts out they’ll be two marks on the tip stick for the cold side I said what you need to do is go take it on the freeway for about 20 minutes and come back and we’ll check it on the hot side we did that it was considerably low luckily they did not burn up a transaxle my dad thought that he could check it with the engine off I said nope not on this model!
Sir, I have a 2013 Toyota Corolla with a U340E 4 speed Auto Transmission. The transmission fluid level is full when checking cold but low when its hot (after driving 10-12 miles). How do I sort out this discrepancy? Really frustrated.
I live in Texas and it’s getting in the high 90s daily so I’m thinking a 10 minute drive should have the fluid up to temperature
Is it safe to use a bypass switch on the A/T cooler to speed up the fluid temperature? This would significantly reduce your waiting time.
Some transmissions have a thermostat system which does this automatically.
Lurv these kinda shows. Extensive explanation, Good Sir :) I would comment: What's so wrong with manual transmission? Fill & drain plug? Public getting so slack? Then, they have to work harder, to pay service bills? Serve 'em right? On earlier model, Toyota Camry, Auto: The dipstick has a spring clip. The trans breather, is atop the trans, & connected by rubber tube, to an inverted U-tube, welded, externally, near the top of the fill tube. Every time you check dipstick, Don't just see the level & color? Check The Color, On the Wipe Tissue? Ooo? If you wanna get really, into it? Take oil sample & send to lab? Don't forget to top up the 100ml, Oil sample taken? Hey, Gotta do, Some thing, in life? :)
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You need to read the dipstick and monitor fluid temp is there a universal scan tool that does for most vehicle brands I use Toyota techstreamm on my is 350
Thanks for your feedback. There are several brands that attempt to do so. We have a snap-on version that works very well.
Scangauge works well
Its it ok to have the fluid a little above the hot mark at operating temperature?
Question : I just got a transmission rebuild. When I check the fluid, it is the right level and it looks good, but it seems to have a slight burnt smell. Is does the smell mean there is a problem ?
Yes. Change it sooner than later
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Great content I’d rather have a manual transmission...
Thank you. They are getting harder to find now.
well he made that as clear as mud !! how can a cold check be 90 degrees ??
Professor, my dipstick reads the same, it’s a smidge above the top dot on hot. Is that gonna be a problem? Or could I run it?
Is the procedure the same on Jeeps? I was told by the shop that the vehicle has to be in neutral or the reading will not be accurate.
Check your manual, or check for your SPECIFIC vehicle online.
Well this GM transmission procedure is interesting. But I am sure not all brands have the same procedures.
Many have a similar procedure. They are all temperature sensitive
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Why my transmission fluid is high when cold and when the engine is hot the level is low
Also Professor why does the Ecotec 5.3 require 0w-20 and the same year Ecotec 4.3 V6 requires 5w-30? Almost as if it’s contradicting the efficiency of the V6 by requiring a thicker oil and 2 extra Serpentine pulleys over the 5.3.
I do not know, that is not my area of expertise. Have a great day
WeberAuto How could I find the answer? Who do you ask when there’s questions you can’t find the answer to?
It's quite simple, one is full synthetic and other is conventional oil.
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I have an 84 chevy lazydaze and I.need a new tranni dip stick n can't find one! An you help?
Check eBay. Thanks for watching