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As Jeremy Clarkson said, "Porsche started with the engine at the wrong end, and they’ve spent the last 40 years stubbornly trying to engineer their way around the problem."
@@detonator2112 F1 are mid eniged tho, and so are all the fast racecars you mentioned, Porsche is the only manufacturer that has consistently built rear engined cars over the years. But the Clarkson quote is just a joke tho, rear engined cars has advantages and draw backs same as front engined and mid engined has their own pros and cons. (This comment was made in response to someone saying ''thats why f1 and every fast supercar has it in the rear'' or something like that, but this comment is now deleted therefore my comment is lacking some context. So you dont have to type a reply to me about the difference between mid and rear engined cars)
Clarkson is a clown, a funny clown, but a clown never the less. And for the most part, Clarkson is pulling y'alls chain, that is a Clarkson thing, and simply to be purposefully polerizing, that's as much a business thing as it is a social or personality disorder.. I say all of this, and I like Clarkson, but he is what he is, he does what he does.
@@driverjay8613 - *polarising
@@detonator2112 NO- Clarkson was conceived from the 'wrong end'.
Clarkson calls Porsche 911 a "glorified Beetle". He has a good sense of humor and is a passionate, patriotic Brit who loves his Jaguars and Bentleys. Of course he can't say sweet things about Germany's top car brand.
"Join me as I drive a lot cars I can't afford" Yeah. I felt that.
Me too comrade!
Me but he goes to the Hotwheels store
At least he gets to drive them.
You missed the "that"
That was me though most of the early 2000s. I made friends with most of the sales managers at the high end dealerships in Austin, and would spend a few hours every weekend test driving anything I could.
“Chances are you were born on 3rd base and walk around like you hit a triple.” Love it! Thanks for the work that went into this video.
I stole second and got thrown out at third. Luckily, my wife is a regular home run batter:-). You have a great day!
I'm going to steal that saying
Not American but this baseball analogy was good enough to be understood
Ryan Day is a perfect example…;)
The obtainable Porsche is now called a used Boxster or Cayman, both brilliant cars to drive.
Bore scoring just scares the crap out of me on those cheap boxsters and Caymans.
@@VulgrDisplayget a 987.2👌🏽
@@VulgrDisplayon early 986 Boxsters and Boxster S there were a few problems as well as IMS bearing failures. But they were not really that prevalent. If you find a well kept 2000 to 2008 Boxster or Cayman that has had no problems and the owner drove it fairly hard, the engine is not likely to be a problem, especially if the unused good synthetic oils like Mobil 1 and changed yearly. I have a 2000 Boxster S bought new, put 120,000 miles on it by 2007 as a commuter car (50 miles one way commute done in 50 minutes) and then put away for 10 years. Pulled back out in 2017, new fuel pump, cleaned out old gas, oil change, and a few odds and ends, my mechanic said the engine was still fine, just drive and Rev it. And since then, another 20K miles relatively trouble free. Always be prepared to do the correct maintenance and upkeep and these cars will reward you. 250HP, new Michelin Pilot Sport 2’s, tight superior handling and still quick enough acceleration, Zenith Blue with a hardtop, still gives me smiles every time I drive it. Technically the car is worth less than $10K now, but how much fun can you have for $10-15K? That’s why a properly working and kept up 986 2000 or later is still a great car, even today. Just get one in great condition and take care of it.
@@bwdrives I did (2009 987.2 Cayman Base 6MT) and I love it.
@@teter87059 Yup. Mine's a 2011 with the PDK and Sport+. Unlike my tricked-out Elise, I can pretty-much treat it like a regular car.
“Give Porsche a suspension parts from a beetle or a golf and they will make it handle way better than anything jaguar can come up with” killed me 😂
This is actually not true. XF, XE, XJ are the best handling cars in their class. F-Pace even beat Macan in the Motor Trend H2H.
@@arindammukherjee8581 r/whooosh
@@anthonyreed480 r/whooosh
Certified 944 moment
@@anthonyreed480 You mean when it's not in the shop?
"Engineering is the process of balancing requirements." Nicely said.
Sadly most engineers I've met now are strictly of the mindset of how to make something break just beyond the warranty coverage and how to make it cheaply with the highest net profit.
@@Heartstrong_Productions That really is sad if an engineer starts thinking that way. Often seems like a shortsighted management mindset.
@@Heartstrong_Productions that's a bmw /Mercedes engineer
@@ahimsadesi Management in the end constrains what engineers can do. The best engineers use those constraints to innovate. Sometimes it means using the best parts of other models and re-engineering them to work well together, ie, Civic RS, GTI, even the original Porsche Boxster. The Boxster was engineered to have shared body and interior features with the upcoming 996-generation 911, in part because in the mid-90s Porsche had to reduce their production costs in order to stay in business. By the time the Cayman was introduced, it could use the Boxster chassis and parts (many of which were still shared with the then-current 911, including a less-poweful 3.4 L variant of the base 911 engine (3.6L) in the S model. It didn't make it cheap, but it made it less expensive than a 911, and in the late 2000s it wasn't difficult to buy one. Now, only base Porsche SUVs are easy (if still expensive) to buy. And yes, the base Macan shares an engine (a variant of the VW GTI's engine) and many parts with the Audi Q5, yet somehow it drives very differently.
Except the real test is whether you can scale the operation to fulfill demand and drive price down as a result. But then the stock price would plateau so consumers get hosed anyway
I brought the first 912 into the United States in early 1966 three months before the formal introduction into the US. I bought it from a factory store in Stuttgart for the special export price of $4,200 (yeah, I didn't leave a zero off of that). It was a special order from that store. I had to add headrests and seatbelts (which were accessories at the time...but at that time they weren't exactly ubiquitous in the USA, either). I also added two factory gauges to the dash so that it would "look" like a 911 dash (which came with five gauges). I wasn't a big car fan. My Dad had a business friend who had a 356 in 1961 (or so)...he was a car fan and I bought the 912 because of his infectious enthusiasm. Before they could export the car a guy drove it from Stuttgart to Frankfurt (where I was living) so that I could drive it and sign a release form...the Germans were and are big on forms (and rubber stamps). So my first drive in a Porsche was this new 912 on the Autobahn from Frankfurt to Heidelberg and back. I had not driven at all for two years and suddenly I was thrust into some surreal automotive Nirvana that was inexplicable in its thrill. Unfortunately, when I got it home (the drive on I-15 from the dock in LA back to Salt Lake was incredible) I quickly found out that while I had afforded the Porsche...I couldn't afford the continual tuning of those four carburetors. So I had to relinquish the car because, as a student for the next 8 years I couldn't afford to keep it on the road. But in the 57 intervening years and 35 or 40 cars later the Porsche is still Camelot "for one brief shining moment" in my automotive history. What is said about engineering and balance in the video is right on the mark. I got an ME degree and spent 51 years in manufacturing...so I get it...a little. But I will take that longing for that "one brief shining moment" to my grave.
Bittersweet but wonderfully told story- thanks for sharing!
Great memories
@@paulkearney4565 thanks Paul. Great memories indeed.' Especially that first trip to Heidelberg...indescribable. Autobahn & Porsche made for each other :)
@@jbbevan I get it, the drive through Germany, my wife's Austrian. I got my 1st 911 2 years ago, and I get Porsche now, even though I'm a diehard Subaru fan, I still have 2 x Subaru Impreza's. You should go back and re-trace your journey, I'm sure someone would love to help you out, take mines if you wish, I'm in London 👍
@@paulkearney4565 You are over-kind to even suggest such a thing. Thank you.
I don't often watch 20 minute videos, give thumbs ups and in 10 years have subscribed to 7 channels. As a Porsche guy, I was curious as to what an engineer who had not drunk the Kool-aid would say... exceptional video, great photography, engaging narration and fun all around! Thanks, I hope you get your Porsche and keep making these videos!
George Torres of numero Uno market agrees
I couldn't agree more. I watched the entire video and I normally skip within the first 30 seconds. Nice video. I have been lucky enough to have owned sever Porsches over time. Quality and precision is what keeps me wanting more. Although the new C08 is getting there.
Agreed
I tried to say this too but didn't come close. I don't often but did this for Matt, brilliant, subscribed 🙌
@petrolo72 hahaha! Whoops George Torres?
At age 66 I FINALLY had the opportunity to own my first Porsche. I paid nearly $150,000 for a 7 year old 30,000 mile 911 turbo. Technology and performance coupled with reliability and sheer exhilaration while driving are the main reasons I love this car! I dated a girl back in 1986 that had a brand new Porsche 911 and got to drive her’s then. I never forgot the feeling that must be experienced to understand. By the way, I love the 911 look and I always have!💪👌
This is one of the best comments I’ve seen in a while, and I’m determined to buy a somewhat sought after Porsche by age 60 also. Your my hero, congrats on the car, maybe throw some good Porsche vibes my way, and with some careful planning, & had work, and a little luck I’ll get one and share your pride of ownership! Cheers my friend, you deserve that 911 👍
@@jdjames997 cliff please throw some vibes to this good man here, and please dont send me any Fucking hate porsche, not even gonna give the guys a capital p.
@@_BreathOfFreshAir_bro what 💀
@@_BreathOfFreshAir_ what's wrong with porsche
So 991 turbo it is!.. nice one 😊🤝
This is a super well put together video. The flow from one section to another is lovely and thought out.
SFM in a nutshell
@@tychormthorp Let's face it, the guy is probably too smart and capabale for Mensa.
my dude is putting great videos every week, he is on fire
@@creamwobbly not everybody has to emote like a celebrity, the information is good and presented in a concise manner, what more do you want?
That is exactly what I am thinking. he did great!
This is unquestionably one of the very best videos I have ever watched. Informative, humorous, critical, balanced between all these things.
Like a porsche!
As a former owner of 4 Porsches, I can say that there is lots of truth in what you are saying. Many years ago, my first sports car was '56 4 cylinder Austin-Healey that I started auto-crossing. The best overall finish I achieved was always around 5th place. The 1st to 4th place cars were always Porsches. So, I sold the Healey and purchased a beautiful silver '58 Porsche Speedster and started winning auto-crosses for several years. Then I got into SCCA racing with that car and won my first two races, and later more wins. Then I got serious about racing and acquired a super rare 1959 Porsche RSK 718 Spyder. It was a giant killer on the track. This same car was Roger Penske's early race car and later it was in Jerry Seinfeld's collection. Years ago, I also owned two Porsche 928s, and I am surprised that in this video these great V8 machines were not even mentioned by Matt.
To answer your question - “Carrera” comes from Carrera Panamericana, an open road race across Mexico, which Porsche dominated in the 1950’s.
How exactly did Porsche "dominate"? Looking at the history of results it doesn't quite read that way to me lol
@@chickenfishhybrid44 The earlier years of Porsche racing, mainly the 50’s were mainly focused on class wins rather than overall wins, due to them using smaller engines.
@@vwjetta4138 that's fine. Still doesn't really change anything when talking about these particular races.
@@chickenfishhybrid44 cry about it
But what does it mean in terms of 911s? Is it a synonym for 911?
It's the philosophy of the brand executed with precision. Everything you touch feels better than any other brand. Seats, knobs, buttons, surfaces...plus they stop, go and turn faster than their horsepower would suggest.
"everything you touch feels better than any other brand" you're a clueless, objectively wrong bafoon. ridiculous.. proving porsche fans are a joke, shame because some of their cars are great. stopping and turning has little to do with horsepower, and I'm not buying a porsche macan 2.0 cylinder for 60k when i can buy a x3 m40i with a b58 that demolishes that engine and actually sounds great, and if I want to tune it it's easier, cheaper, has a affordable aftermarket, and make WAY more power, and I won't get a grand total of zero standard equipment. vast majority of people, including car guys, would argue the x3 m40i is the better vehicle overall. which is what porsches has, everything is an option, even on 100k cayennes, it doesn't even have heated seats or adaptive cruise control, no auto high beams, no lumbar, no anything. Lemme guess the insanely priced porsches that do not even have leather seats feel better then the competition which has leather seats standard or more affordable?
RR does it better than porsche. But okay. 👌
@@user-tu5tm6kn6k 😂 rolls isn’t a performance or drivers car
As an owner of three Porsches; I concur. When you know, you know.
but the Boxter is better than a 911 and no one wants them... (wasn't even mentioned in this video.)
As a Porsche owner I really enjoyed your insightful comments, your humour and your review of the brand. Thanks so much for sharing. 😊😊😊
You got me on the proper naming of that GT3... I did correct you the first time and smirked when you said 997.1, but when you came back to call out the Porsche fans/nerds that would have corrected you and were freaking out... I laughed out loud! Well played sir! I have owned many Porsches over the last 20+ years. Once you take the Porsche Red Pill, you will never look at cars the same. You have us all figured out 🤣🤣 Subscribed.
I know a guy who knows a guy who has a Porche. One of my favorite quotes from a Trans Am driver, about the Trans Am Porche was: "With that engine hanging off the back, it handles like a pig, but after 30 years of development, it's a very fast pig!"
Quote about the (then) current 911 from an automotive journalist at the time: an inherently flawed concept engineered to the pinnacle of brilliance.
It handle brilliantly. I think you need to get a little closer to one before you make comments…
It's a Stuttgartian truffle pig. A really fast, aggressive truffle pig, though.
@@shaylorcyclingwahoolecol8313 That's called gatekeeping
Nope. Gatekeeping would be stopping him from commenting, not telling what “I think” he should do… he could do what he wants, he just makes himself look foolish…
I worked at a shop in the 80’s that would restore these. We’d tear them down to the chassis and then clean, restore and rebuild… Something I noticed was that every year there would be one less bolt or 2 bolts that used to be different were now the same. There was a constant refinement of every detail. I think you nailed it when you said they’ve spent a lifetime refining on the same theme. I think that’s what makes them amazing! (and no, I had my chances to buy one then but passed it up. An 80’s air-cooled would be amazing but as you also said, it’s simply out of most of our reach.)
And who wants a car that sounds like a refrigerator!
You mean like this???😁😁😁😁🚘🚘🍺🍺🍺 kzhead.info/sun/hJuBZrhqfYmGjXk/bejne.html
@@bb-iq6qw Actually, many, many car enthusiasts. That's who. 🤷♂ Arguably too many for the available supply.
They did the same thing with the Beetle. I learned that the hard way. To most people the 1968 to 1971 Beetle body looks the same but they aren't.
I blame Singer and their ilk for the price explosion. A few years ago, 993s were relatively expensive because they were regarded as the pinnacle of the air-cooled cars, but earlier models were relatively affordable. Then Singer started doing their restomods on 964s and those cars all disappeared from the market, followed by the 1984+ Carrera models. If you look at PCA classified ads now, 993s are often priced lower than cars in the 2 generations before them.
A Volkswagen Beetle was the very first car I drove when I passed my test 47 years ago. Fast forward, I have been driving a 2004 Porsche Boxster S for the last 6 years. It sticks to the road like a limpet, gets 0-60 in a modest 5.2 seconds & sounds like an angry tiger . It puts a smile on my face every time I go out in it. What’s not to like. 🇬🇧👍
My 2000 Boxster S has done the same for me for 23 years, and still going with 140K miles on it. Great car!
This is with out a doubt the best Porsche video I have ever seen. I have had a Porsche since November 1973 (a 1974 914S 2.0). I am old now. I am sliding into home plate with my eighth and final Porsche, a 2012 Porsche 911 S Cabriolet. As noted in the video: A 991.1😍. My current Porsche has the same charm as my first Porsche and the same charm as the 1972 beetle I owned. Charm = Every day usability. Puts a smile on your face. A joy to drive whether you’re going slow or fast. Thank you for the most wonderful video…
I always liked Leno, but his view on Ferrari cemented my respect for him.
their arrogance is horrible
Agreed. Their ego is bigger than the amount of all cars they let out the barn
@@StarFox85 like porsche
@@roboticvenom1935 at least they talk to you 👀 but i agree with u too
@@StarFox85 to be honest that is exactly what I like from Ferrari hard to get so you feel very exclusive and honored to own a brand new one I understand his point
The surprising part isn't the suspension, it's that your buddy let you drive it. LOL, that's one trusting friend. Keep him happy.
Of all the people I'd let drive my cars, I think I'd have to trust Matt considering his racing experience lol.
Porsche is probably the safest "fast car" you can borrow someone Obviously still prone to crash if you really want
I don't think Matt has any money struggles by a long margin. That's a pretty convincing reason to trust someone.
@@cyjanek7818 to be fair, you really have to be cooking it into a corner to experience any of their notable snap-oversteer. That, or it being an early turbo model.
@@cyjanek7818 that's a gtr
1. You do NOT have to drive a turbo to appreciate a Porsche- literally the opposite. 2. Boxsters and Caymans are exceptional cars and can easily be purchased in the $30k range
Simply put. Got my 87 911 ten years ago. Honeymoon hasn't ended yet. I still get excited the night before the drive. Like tomorrow and commenting here at 3.29 am .
Yes. Also, all hail the algorithm.
All hail
All hail me.
KZhead put a wee thing below this asking me to rate this comment, here's hoping a smiley face will please the algorithm...
We are the algorithm
Yup.. It's got my number🙄🤣
Very nice to look into the Porsche culture from the outside. I consider myself a car guy, not necessarily a Porsche guy, despite owning Porsches. I was lucky enough to buy into the brand when they were not cheap, but affordable and the main reason was exactly what you mentioned. The 911 compared to it's rivals in the same era was miles ahead. The Datsun 240z was one of the most beautiful cars of it's day, but compared to my 911 of the same age, it drove like a truck and despite spending 2 years restoring it I quickly sold it. The Italian offerings are generally much more beautiful but the build quality is average at best. It is a shame that the Porsche cost of entry is becoming higher and as such there are more and more of the wrong people buying them, to only take them to cars and coffee to talk about how rare their paint and stitching combo is, rather than using them as intended. Other cars may come and go, but my old 911 is here for the long haul.
Not true. Compared to other sports car brands, Porsche usually do high mileages.
@@SkyrimCZtutorials Traditionally they do for sure. Unfortunately there are more and more people coming into the brand bringing that Italian car mentality of keeping the mileage low for an 'investment' :(
Me too. 2007 911 turbo bought in 2007, will be here forever.
Harry is a pretty special so I'd hope you keep him around 😁
240Z drove like a truck? I'm not a 240Z fan boy and no longer own one but they were ahead of their time although built for the masses which was a problem for some 'enthusiasts'. In racing the only way a 911 could beat a 240Z was to have bigger something, like power, brakes, etc. Friends race them today and they still out perform their contemporaries, not by more power but by having a balanced racing package.
man, i just stumbeled across your channel and love the calm, not over hyped delivery
Great summary. The conclusion spot on. Jay's description could not be questioned. I bought my 1968 Porsche 912 when, I was 25. I'm now almost 60 and still have the car. The car is an original UK right hand drive and took all the money I had and a three year bank loan at the time to buy it for GBP 6000. The engine was rough as was the body, a bent valve, Solex carbs that could not be tuned and the engine threw flames of unburnt fuel out the exhaust when engine braking hard into corners. And no occupant heating in the winter! Absolutely loved the car even with all its flaws. The drive, handling and balance were exceptional. Over the years the simple mechanicals allowed me to strip and re-build the engine. Full parts availability from Porsche UK helped, which is a massive part of the Porsche after sale service. The carbs were swapped out for a set of second hand Webbers from an Alfa Romeo. I still have the original Solex carbs. You summarized the Porsche mantra well. "It's the sum of all the parts, including a relationship". My car will take me to my grave and my daughter will drive it forward from my grave side.
To me, it’s about taking an inherently weird format and making it excellent. Take their current racing career in GT3. They’re using a rear engine format that restricts how much underbody downforce you can generate, which is the high efficiency downforce everyone is trying to go for, and then still being dominant all year. That sort of engineering a masterpiece out of something weird is something I really aspire to and admire. Minus Ferdinand being a nazi, but that’s bound to happen with any old German thing.
I mean yeah with any german brand you are gonna bet there are many nazis from that time period, alot of people were just blindly following their country into war, usually it was mainly the top group of people who were wicked
It's not like the other big German car companies have Nazi-free histories either. Really just can't be avoided with old German companies
Uh, pretty sure the 911 GT3 hasn't been rear-engine in quite a while. They're mid-engine since..., 2017? And I don't recall them being "dominant" in GT3.
@@s2korpionic You're probably thinking of the RSR where GTE rules actually let them move the engine further forwards. In GT3 with the 911 GT3 R they're still just as rear engined as the roadcars. Granted even in the roadcars they're generally moving the engine as far forwards as they can but at the end of the day they're still considered rear engined.
@@CaroFDoom since 2017 the gt3 is mid engine, and no they are not considered rear engined. Just like the corvette they realized they could not compete with the likes of the mid engine ford gt and the mid engine ferrari.
What an awesome video, Matt. I've got so many thoughts on the Porsche brand, and you summarized a lot of them. This was a great change of pace in contrast to what a lot of other channels tend to do, which is to simply fawn over the brand. Which it deserves... but also.... does it? I could talk about Porsche all day. Don't really want to own one, though. With all that said, awesome video, great job on the "essay" format. You killed it! "Between Rain Man and the Germans" was phenomenal and so true.
BMW (as a linage) is so much easier for me to fawn over, but I am not sure if that is correlated to my ability to obtain some of their notable offerings throughout my life or not. I definitely echo most of your sentiments with this video though - however, I would consider owning a Porsche if the opportunity was right. That opportunity would be my friend selling me his 991 GT3 for
I did not expect to see Mike here
Buy yourself a 944, think you will like it like you like e36...
We need a Mike/Matt collab.
@@von... I like German cars overall but absolutely abhor BMW, mostly the modern ones. Old ones are OK. New ones are so freakin unreliable. My brother is a tech there and I live literally next door to one. Too much tech IMHO. Ultimate driving machine no longer
Matt, this is the first one of your videos I’ve ever watched, and I really appreciate your style; a great combination of intelligent and rational with a healthy splash of subtle, dry humor. Great personality, Sir, well done. I believe the interior styling of Porsche’s says a lot. I think they’re the only interiors today that are truly beautiful in a functional way, there’s no unnecessary styling decisions, just a simple and aesthetically pleasing practicality. The steering wheel in the 911 especially, it has to be one of the best steering wheels I’ve ever seen. That steering wheel alone makes me want a 911, along with many other reasons. The one in my TLX is almost as nice, and it’s such a simple thing, but so crucial. It’s the one thing that’s always right there in your face, you’re always interacting with it, so it should be a pleasure to see and touch. So many brands over-style things now, and are too preoccupied with having a design language that is intertwined with the brand’s identity. MB, BMW & Audi all used to have beautifully practical interiors back in the late 80’s to early 00’s, Audi especially; but then, sadly, they veered off course in an attempt to be more interesting and to appear to have more personality.
I came to Porsche from muscle cars. I always thought that more horsepower was better. Although now I have driven just my two 20 year old base Boxsters, they handle so well and feel so nimble compared to my other vehicles. The chassis and motor are well balanced and the car feels very comfortable at high speeds, even with the top down. Very well constructed and simple ( at least mine are). They feel very connected to the road and somehow amplify the driving experience without the weight and under steer of a larger HP vehicle.
Subscribed - I hope you can get your Porsche. I am a mechanical engineer for 35 years in Detroit and I always imagined the perfect car I would build for myself, a sort of a go-kart for public roads. 10 years ago, I had the chance to drive the 997 GT3 and I realized Porsche already built my dream car, practical, good visibility, 100% engineering efficiency, no BS. Few years later I got my GT3.
Ferry Porsche imagined the perfect car he would build for himself that was the 1st Porsche.
I’m 31. I hope to get my first Porsche by 35
@@train_xc you got this bro, my goal is to get it by 28. I'm 20 right now haha
The GT3 Touring (the one without the wing) and the Porsche 911 S/T (like a GT3 RS but without the wing) are the holy grail of modern 911s. And in the case of S/T also unobtainable by normal humans even if they have the money for one.
My dream car is a small luxury tourer and that also exists in the Turbo S, but I’m a few hundred k short
“Born on third base, walks around like you hit a triple”, I have never heard that before and I will use it forever.
Biden tried that line on trump...fail
@@checkmate1996 Kinda true though lol
Kindly explain it to us NON-Americans.
@@TheWorldTeacher it means you already started ahead in life, you were given a life that you didn’t earn, but yet you act like you did earn it. It’s about being humble rather than a cocky ass
@@TheWorldTeacher Baseball talk. I don't think you can come up with similar comment in the context of Association Football. Maybe in Cricket, but I don't know anything about Cricket.
I just watched this video again and I think it’s one of the best put together videos ever on KZhead.
Your narration for the story was mesmerizing , just loved it !
"An engineered system, not a bunch of parts engineered into a system.." Is a great way to explain the philosophy behind German engineering >>
German stereotypes are that they over engineer parts into a sytem that could use less.
That's EXACTLY what's wrong with Maserati! I've owned Biturbo's & modern era from them. It's like a collection of bits & pieces on nodding terms with each other (on a GOOD day!)
@@lukespector5550 Maserati is owned by Chrysler now, that's why their reputation has gotten worse for stuff like that.
@@Cynsham Yeah- Anything "the big 3" touch rots including their own vehicles
@@lukespector5550 Maserati is also italian so.. 😭😭 Now they're italian and american so its just a hot mess 360°
Well done, I’ve spent my adult (I’m 70) with a Porsche. 356,912, early 911T targa,944 turbo, Boxster and 997.1. You have mined the essence of Porsche. Everyone of mine was a daily driver and repair and maintain by me!
David I wish there were more guys out there like you--I work on my car and it is a very rewarding experience.
Picked up a clean but well-used early Boxster several years ago for $8500. The parameters were the wife wanted an inexpensive convertible to kick around in. That car shocked me at how fun it was to drive, and relatively inexpensive to own. We upgraded to a later-model 986 Boxster S a few years ago and it's a bundle of fun to drive. It's not as fancy or as fast and doesn't carry the cachet of a newer car, but if you're not concerned with such things, I highly recommend the early Boxsters as a way to get 85% the performance and 100% of the creature comforts of a similar-aged 911 but for a lot less money. I certainly wouldn't consider them "slow". One might argue the tossability of the little Boxster more than makes up for it not being as fast as the 911.
^^^^^ This!! Absolutely correct - I tell people all the time a well kept 2000 and newer Boxster is literally less than $12,000, less than an econobox, and, properly maintained with $1-4K of mechanical checks and maintenance initially, will run rings around almost anything, last a very long time, and bring a smile to your face every time you drive it. Once you drive a Porsche, you understand why they are so good and so popular.
My first Porsche was and is a 718 Cayman S, 6 speed. It’s an affordable way to get into the club to have a great appreciation for the brand, the people, and even access to the Porsche marketplace. Loved your video and breakdown of a brand I’ve come to love and don’t ever see myself leaving. PCA Member for life
Great to hear dynamic weight distribution being discussed. I had been racing for years before it was explained to me... by a Porsche history book. Great video.
Hahahaha
If you'd been racing 911's, you'd have learnt this the hard way. As soon as you throttle a 911 back in turn, you'll feel the weight distribution acting up. And you enter a spin.
When showing the first Corvette to not orbit the engine in turns... Whhich yes the enireers of the gen 8 said it's rear busedand its better.
@@thefreedomguyuk that’s called oversteer and it’s desirable
@@thefreedomguyuk You enter a spin if you don't expect it. But you don't if you do.
as a german i have to say: thank you SO MUCH for pronouncing Porsche correctly
Die meisten amis: "Furrdinänd porsh"
A BSME out of Georgia Tech, class of ‘34 and the most expensive independent mechanic in Atlanta, told me that the swing axle and trailing arm front suspension both normally break lose but with the short 82.7” wheelbase reverse course and stick to the road. Go back to 2:25 and you’ll see my first car/Porsche, a silver or metallic gray 1960 T-5 Super Roadster. That thing could really do a four wheel drift.
first video ive seen and i really enjoyed it. incredibly down to earth, sincere and informative, good effort
"Somewhere between Rainman and the Germans". I work with Germans, have watched Rainman, and own the anti-Porsche, Porsche. This quote gave me a hearty laugh because it is absurdly true.
As a Porsche owner, I don't take offense to the stereotype. I take offense in that we are clearly slotted between the Germans and the Trekkies.
Which Porsche is the anti-Porsche?
@@mariospantouvanos4645 944. 911 owners still look down on 944 owners, though that is changing. 914 started to get attention simply due to quirkiness and dwindling numbers. And it's air cooled, rear engined "like a real Porsche should be". I think maybe the UV Porsches brought the much ignored transaxle cars some time in the sun. Almost an "well, maybe they aren't so bad" attitude from the Porsche purists. Still, the Porsche snobs like to dislike the 944. But that's part of the reason I love mine.
@@branemadder i think 944s are one of the most beautiful and interesting cars ever produced. Anyone who thiks otherwise is just wrong.
@@branemadder 944s are beautiful
You know your doing good when you have two different garage door openers.
home with 3 car garage means you are above average.
Or when you can afford the garage door openers but choose to lock and open them manually several times a day. (you do know an auto closed door is not actually locked?)
the tire guy knowing the priceless value of customer service offered to drive my '91 Saab spg out to my work to hand deliver since their service was overdue. very cool shop effort. so, he drives up to the work lot in the car & exits quite spiritedly in his 6'4" medium overweight package. hands me the keys & with the most profound nonchalant expression my way shares his moment: "This car is such an amazing drive." Never thought anything else about something supposedly better since that refining affirmation by a tire jockey . . . . since. your vid was so well done & so evenly crafted i felt inspired to post about my incredible Saab commitment.
I'm a new subscriber. Your approach is different than other car review sites, so I joined up. Less emphasis on specs and numbers, more analysis of systems and even culture. I found it interesting and refreshing. By the way, my dad was a Porsche driver. He must had had 3 over the years in the 50s and 60s, I have no idea what models they were, but pre-911. Back then, German imports were far off the beaten track, and there was the postwar US dollar discount. He also drove TR3s, Citroen 2CV, Jaguar XKE, Mercedes 190SL, lots of Beetles, an Izeta, it's hard to remember them all. I think in the end, you've persuaded me of the Porsche's excellence, but also its overpricing. For myself, I need a touring car, because I take long road trips of several weeks on holiday, usually driving from central Canada to the US Southwest (about 10,000 kms). I am probably not going to part with my 2017 BMW X4 any time soon. The M40i variation has that little bit of extra horsepower and tuning, without being a full-on M car. I find the car smooth, reliable and versatile. I confess that I have never owned a true out and out sports car, and maybe I ought to do something about that before too many years go by! The 911 would certainly tick all my boxes... at the right price!
"a car that looks like a fat guy sat on a beetle" That would be an Audi TT. And the 914 is under appreciated - an attempt to make a Porsche that was obtainable - even if it started out as a VW.
@@GIwillo its 944 isnt under appreciated, it is actually a little overrated
you are sooo right
914 was a piece of junk.....fell apart in a few years....924 was just as bad.....Datsun 240Z of same year were running strong decades after sold.
@@chadhaire1711 left out the 928 and 944 that were made the same time as the 924, the 924 was the entry level Porsche it wasn’t meant to be hot shit
@@yeeoleswsh1450 The 928 was a great car but it failed because the idiots at the factory didn't back it up with service, updates, new model variations and parts.....shame....the factory killed it, not the market. the 944 was an attempt to make a better 924, which it was, but it fell apart in a hurry and was way over priced. The entire Porsche line has never impressed me, and if the Japanese had not re-organized the company years ago, they would have gone bankrupt......not now though. Putting the engine in the rear is just stupid, fine for economy car, but crazy on anything else. Their SUV's are just fancy VW's with same crappy repair history......Only the Cayman makes any sense.
25 years ago I went through the NADA books as an exercise to determine actual depreciation and thus the most “economical” car. I found the best return was a 911, which increased in value.
I bought an early 80's 911SC for 10 grand in 97. It's worth over 100k right now....
Great point. Idk about that SC and 100 k though commenter ^
Clearly u didnt check silvias😂
I love Porsches like I love my Ducati Superbike, because they are clever and unique. When I got my first 944 I would scratch my head a lot thinking why TF did they make this this way, but as I got more familiar with it, it all started making sense. Porsches have a design synergy that makes the whole car a great deal better than the sum of its parts. The cable shifter linkage defied all logic to me, but I learned to love and accept it because after 35 years with no adjustments or repairs it still shifted better than most modern cars.
great video MAtt, So well thought out and planned, funny, and covering all bases of logic. The best,
I’m not going to lie, you had me with the 997 4.0😂 I was heading towards the comments while you made your point. Porsche is by far my favorite brand and I was extremely impressed by the people you got to interview. Good job on the video!
I was slightly embarrassed at myself for noticing... I can feel adenoids enlarging...
I didn't even notice until the correction, my mind already filled in the .2 and went on to wondering if he was going to mention the current prices of the 4.0 mezger which is like 2 of the 992 gt3s.
@@thebolsta Jeremy Clarkson would have a ball of a time making fun of Porsche enthusiasts with their adenoidal voices xD all jokes aside I do love Porsches though.
"They tend to work" Wow! It sounds so simple. Even simplistic. But when you think about the fact that so many cars are essentially designed to fall apart, the fact that a car "tends to work" really says something
If you set apart the slimmed track models and look at curb weights of the regular versions and compare them in their respective segments you'll realize porsche's are quite heavy. You get quite a lot more sturdiness, after over ten years i realized they're overbuilt and age really nice for the beating they take.
@@aoolmay6853 This is true! Although when driving them they really do not feel that heavy, which is another great thing about them
I've been fortunate enough to own several BMWs and now on my second Porsche. The gap in build quality between the two brands is very noticeable. I'll continue to drive Porsches as long as I can. The video is very 911-focused but the same thing is true of all of their models. They won't win every spec battle but they don't suck at any aspect of what they're designed to do.
@@aoolmay6853 they are absolutely not "heavy" when compared to other competing sports cars -- especially 2+2s -- of the same era. Porsches are usually lighter than their competitors (although I am not sure about the SUVs).
@@jsquared1013 I don't care about history. I'm calling it like i see it TODAY. Did you look at the numbers or are you going just by gut feeling? Typical 911 dry weight 1600kg, that's up there with spacious four door sedans. Camry V6, 300 hp weights 1500kg. Cayenne, 2100kg, those used to be over 2200kg in previous generation. Land Cruiser with same displacement/passanger space is below 2000 kg, you need the long versions to beat that, but that changes the segment slightly to 7 seat capable car. Panamera goes up to 1900-2200kg depending on options too. BMW 5/m5's are 1800-2000kg. It's a myth about sports cars being light. You just can't put that much power in a weak/light construction. They are sporty from refinement and ingenuity.
What an excellent video. Genuinely super well spoken, edited, and organized. It felt like watching an official documentary on the car or something.
“Born on third base, but walk around like you hit a triple..” brilliant
So excited to watch this one. 😁 I’m the daydreaming kid from the 911 advert who rode his bike to the dealership at 9 years old; actually went back 20 years later to fulfill that…need. Edit: 7 years and 100k miles later, I still can’t imagine a better daily driver. Okay, a 991.1 GTS or any 99X manual-equipped GT3 would do nicely.
Excellent video :) I owned a 996 Turbo for a few years, and that feeling... you can't describe it, but it is there, like no other. Your next video should be about the Porsche models that saved the 911: The 924/951, Boxster 986, and Cayenne. All frowned upon by true Porsche enthusiasts, but how easy they forget that these three models saved Porsche from bankruptcy. The 911 would not be here today without them.
Exactly. The 951 turbo S matched a contemporary 930 in an 80's magazine test (can't remember if it wad C/D or R&T). Within margin of error on the race track and faster on a mountain road since it was more balanced and stable. The Cayenne profits is what made the Carrera GT streetcar project possible and paid for finally federalization of the GT3 to be able to sell it in the US.
Porsche is NOT a car manufacturer.
What did you replace the 996 turbo with?
@@mikehertz6507 I didn't replace it... bought a house instead 😛 still own a 944S2 and want another 928 - had an S4 and now maybe GT or GTS.
@@manoman0 ?
i didn’t fully appreciate the distinction of what made these cars great until i bought my first new 1973 v w super beetle sports bug…it was a limited production car that added $200 to the base price of $2,600. of the base super beetle. it came with wider parelli tires and deep dish 914 steel wheels, anti sway bars, recaro seats, fat steering wheel with allen screw face, and blacked out bumpers…some had custom racing stripes, but mine didn’t… that car was not fast, but was thrilling to run through the gears, and just sounded so good…it was very well planted and handled extremely well …there was never a rattle or squeak in it, even after passing it down to many family members…the last time i rode in it i remember closing the door and still hearing the solid clunk , and feeling the air pressure in your ears, because the cabin was so well sealed. i got the same feeling many years later driving my brother in law’s 1998 911s…the last year of the air cooled era…this car was everything and more i loved about my old car….i drove many other air cooled porsches that all delivered …when i first drove an early 2000 model it left me yearning …these cars seemed neutered to me…great car compared to others, but still nutless…but even worse, removed the soul….seems like porsche got into the horsepower race with other makers ( could only build air cooled engines that didn’t overheat up to a point), and in the process gave up what made them great….
Before a member of Ferrari club a friend switched to our Porche club. As we returned from a track day on a F1 circuit he went: you are quite spoiled in this community. Up to now l had never experienced the situation where after doing a track, everybody returns home with the same car. Refreshing video and comments, good job.
As a 30+ year member of the Porsche Club of America (and owner of a few Porsches over the years), this was a very well done video. I do feel your pain on Porsche prices, however. Once-upon-a-time, Porsche always had some kind of 'loss leader' - an entry level car the average person could get into in order to enjoy the brand. The original 356 Speedster, the 912, the 914, the 924, the 944 and the first generation Boxster were all cars that regular folks could save up for and buy. While they may not have been the best examples of the marque, they at least gave you a taste of Porsche engineering. Now however, the company has moved so much upmarket that even their least expensive cars are ridiculously priced and unobtainable for most. The company is doing well financially, but I can't help but think something was lost in the journey. 😞
If you spend 5 mins plugging the RRP of any of those 'entry level' models into an inflation calculator, and there's only one conclusion you can come to - Porsche have always been 'ridiculously priced' and 'unobtainable'. With inflation, a base 944 in 1982 would be $112,000 in today's money. There's been no journey, we're still in the exact same place. These cars are, and always have been, incredibly expensive. The only difference is, now you might not be able to buy one even if you have the money in hand.
Well yeah but high prices keep the trash away
@@Jwdude123 Unfortunately John, that seems to be the present-day thinking at Porsche A.G. Twasn't always so....
@@donreid6399 Only in your imagination Don. It's fitting you use 'once upon a time' in your comment because it really is a fairy tale. Even the 'entry-level' cars have always been ridiculously expensive and to think otherwise is fantasy.
@@MacellaioNero tough luck. In germany a brand new 944 cost 48k€ adjusted for inflation. A 924 just 35k€. Cheaper than an i30n. They may not have been affordable wherever you live but in many parts of the world they were. They made 300.000 924‘s and 944‘s and just 60.000 964‘s, where do you think all of those cars went when they were so ridiculously expensive as you say.
I finally got a Porsche about a year ago, I love it, put the top down and fly, my last little drive was 185 miles, I fill up the tank and it took five gallons, the car is beautiful and a dream to drive! Thank you Ferdinand!
What car?
@@GalacticTommy not a cayenne s i bet
@@tropicalsnow if it was it would be 18.5 miles with that much fuel lol
Enjoyed the video. My first car in 1973 was my Grandfather's '62 356B. He'd just had a valve job completed for $400 and that's what I paid him for it. Had a lot of rust underneath and some on top. He drove it up and down a mountain through snow everyday to work. When I was 12 I rode from NC to Sebring in the backseat. I loved that car. I gave it up after a pine tree fell on the roof in 1978. Sold it as was. I'm 67 now and it's still the best car I ever owned. One of these days......
Matt thanks for making this Podcast I enjoyed this Episode. it's funny you say how you feel about after you learned everything you learned, how hard it is now to get into buying one I've been sitting there looking at these damn things all my life and I'm financially almost close enough where I can get one and I'm trying to get an earlyl used one so I feel your pain just hopefully you can get in one, cause like you said that smile that puts you on your face it's the one thing that's priceless and dear to me. I got to drive A 996 back in 2008, so yeah I'm trying to capture that feeling again. Keep up the good work.
Great video!!! I used to be a Ferrari die hard…..until I bought my first entry level Porsche! I remember the salesman telling me that this Porsche would not be my first and only one I would buy. I remember thinking “this guy is crazy”!! Well, he wasn’t wrong, I fell in love with the car….so much so that I’m on my 4th. I am not snotty or anything like that, nor am I your typical prick guy that drives a Porsche. I say that because at the time of my first Porsche buy, my wife had a 5 series BMW with all the bells and whistles. I used to think it was the ultimate driving machine……..until I owned my first Porsche. I am hooked, the quality of the car, the drive, the experience, I can track the car in the morning and drive it right out of the track to pick up groceries on my way home with ZERO issues. They are just fantastic cars!!
What a brilliantly written, filmed and narrated video. Thank you!
Yeah, i was thinking the same. Straight to the point, nothing to be skipped or ignored. Like a well written essay.
Excellent video. I'm glad that the algorithm served it up. Everything you said is on point, I am a 4 time Porsche owner, including a 991.1 GT3, and even I can't get an allocation for a GT4, it's been 14 months on 2 different waitlist. I refuse to pay ADM, or buy a used one for more than a new one costs.
My first car wasa used 72 Super Beetle shipped home from Germany by a US Army Sergeant. Dark green with an extra set steel spike winter wheels/tires. After a huge ice storm hit North Texas I was the only vehicle getting around town, quite confidently. Great car.
The jokes and satire are over 9000. You've reached new heights Matt!
Well done. You are very good at packaging and delivering this type of content. Hopefully you will give us more like this every few months. Thanks for the entertainment.
Such a good video! Perfectly explained what makes Porsche so love-able
You really hit the nail on the head. Years ago I was looking at the 911 numbers compared with other big, swinging Ferrari, Vette, etc, etc. The thing that stuck out was that the 911 was not the best in acceleration, braking, cornering, fuel economy, top speed, or anything. But it was the close, second-best in every category!
"Within specificity of obscure details, Porsche owners land somewhere in between Rainman and the Germans"
That was laugh out loud. And I'm speaking as the owner of a 911 996.2 X51 40Jahre
For me it’s the handling and the lines of the 911 that gets me. I bought a 68 911 to restore and I have had no problems being welcomed in the community. People I met buying parts were all generous with their advices, showed me their collection and even gave a ton of leftovers parts for free. I totally agree that prices at the dealers, on bring a trailer and auctions are overinflated but there is a way around this. Hope you will buy yourself a nice one, you won’t regret it
Hey Matt, this is the first video I watch from your channel and I have to say that you have a very pleasant way of telling a story. Thanks! Watched it all.
My thoughts exactly 👌
I bought my dream car 2 weeks ago, a yellow 996tt. It is incredible. It drives like no other vehicle I’ve owned. I used to have a 986 boxster which I also loved, and this reminds me so much of it except it goes from 0 to Jail in what feels like the blink of an eye. I traded the boxster in for a new WRX STI and never had any fun with the Subaru, which I blamed on the turbos. The 996tt proved that wrong. It corners like it’s on rails and it will do so at any speed i have asked it to. It is simultaneously settled, responsive, and incredibly dynamic. It also is comfortable and carries a week of groceries comfortably. On top of that, I’ve already had to replace a water pump on it and it wasn’t even as hard as the power steering on my raptor. It’s frustratingly difficult to access parts but designed well enough that a lot of the edge is taken off by the sheer simplicity of each portion of the disassembly and assembly.
Was never a porsche fan growing and and always felt they were overpriced for the money. One day I found a deal on a Cayman somehow made it a justifiable purchase thinking I'd sell it for the same amount in 1-2 years. 3 years later, Ive put nearly 40k miles on the car, I can sell it for more than what I bought it 3 years ago, and I despite that rationality in selling it, I absolutely cannot bring myself to do it. Theres something magical about the car I couldn't appreciate from the outside in. I think your video really helped me understand why I love it so much. Its exactly what you said... its not the fastest car, its not the lightest car, its not the best handling car, its not the most comfortable car... but it gets pretty close to all of those things. Its a great compromise and nobody else is able to engineer compromise as beautifully as porsche.
It's that feeling of precision in the build quality and driving experience.
So kinda like Fernando Alonso lol, a 95 in everything
As a mechanic on Porsches and deep in the community I have to say this was very spot on, love your content
Fun video with great humor and information! Specifically it helped me see and confirm my suspicions why I have liked the brand and its engineering for many years. Thanks.
Outstanding video. Describing the experience of driving a Porsche is very difficult. People always ask my why I drive a Porsche. All I can say is I’ve driven just about everything else, and Porsche is better in every aspect that matters to me, including the not so exotic look. You can photograph a car and report the numbers all day, but get in a Porsche. Physically touch the build quality, and drive it. I agree the worst part of driving one is that everything else you drive after will leave you asking, why can this car be as good as a Porsche.
I love your humor & ability to talk about "taboo" topics, and just presenting things as they are, no-BS.
Seeing your smile in the GT3 was a little weird. Your gushing sarcasm melted away, and opened up a door into your soul. And it was happy. 😁
Yeah saw that smile crack, and thought "ah i know that 9000rpm feeling"
Built to last, and last, and last. Give you a smile just by looking at it or holding the keys. Makes your day! Porsche is the greatest on my view for everything that is *NOT* on the spec sheet. I am a Porscher, and I plan to have a Classic 911 or maybe a 356 when retired, because they give you a lot of pleasure at legal speed (while able to do more)...
Subscribed! Excellent video. For me it was the 930 Turbo. I can't even explain it, when I saw it back in the 80s as a kid, I just knew that was the car for me, like when I saw my house, or met my wife. It was like a puzzle piece fitting in.
I owned a 944 Turbo for a while. Excellent car. On one of my Trips to Vegas my company took us to the exotic car driving experience. I decided on a Lamborghini because it was something I had never driven and probably would not get a chance to drive again. I absolutely hated it. It did not feel fast. It did not corner well. There was nothing about it that I liked. So I then decided to try the Porsche Cayman R. Now that was a car. It did everything that I asked it to do. The automatic was the absolute best automatic I have ever driven. Turn ins were crisp. While not overly fast it pulled like I expected it to pull. By far one of the most enjoyable cars I have ever driven. To counter that I also drove an 80's era 911 and there was no place for my left foot to go. Was not a car I would want to own.
I guess I'll have to be the one to tell you that your 944 Turbo is more Audi, than Porsche a descendent of the 924, and Porsche snobs, I'm not one BTW, sneered at it then, and now.
@@allenl9031 Except that the 944 was mostly a 928. The 944 shared few parts with the original 924. The 924S and the 944 were mostly the same.
@@atw9913 correct, the 924 had the Audi engine, the 924S and the 944 had basically half a 928 engine. Taken to extremes with the 964, which had the largest production four cylinder engine (3 litre displacement) at the time, and I believe still today. Also, where the 924 was somewhat mangeable to maintain on a low budget, the 944 has so many porsche-specific parts and solutions that it's beginning to hurt the wallet a lot. The driving feel of the Transaxle is extremely good though, it could've been faster than the 911, but it wasn't allowed to for company reasons. Similar to the cayman, which was also always not allowed the larger engine options so as not to eat into 911 sales.
@@Kommunisator My 88 944 T on a stock motor an Turbo with a 3" exhaust and chip made 270hp and 290tq at the Wheels. The people that made 3.0 Turbo's were insane. I owned a shop for a while that made and sold parts for the water pumpers.
@@Kommunisator 968*
It's definately not the backseat. But I can tell you, even back in the 60's, they were well built and well engineered (just don't bring up rust protection). And due to the evolution rather than revolution of the earlier models, the cars are a lot like Legos in that parts can be interchanged and upgraded over a huge timespan. I was lucky to buy a few cars back when they were just old cars, and have have happily watched their value increase expnentially....though it doesn't really matter 'cause I aint sellin'. In fact, I've never sold a Porsche (lying a bit here, I sold one bent chassis to a gentleman from England who took the shell home to supply hard to find parts for a more valuable car). I've a few other cars, too, but nothing from that era even comes close in build quality or drivability. There are reasons the mark invokes such passion.
Fantastic content you're making here. Keep up the good work.
Just found your channel and subscribed because of how well done this video was😎
Having owned a handful of Porsche cars over the years, I can tell you that they get under your skin. The GT-3 I have now is like a member of the family. Bizarre statement to be sure, but these cars fit like a well worn leather glove and the put a smile on your face. Needless to say, all the examples I’ve owned have been equipped with manual transmissions and yes, I daily drive the GT-3.
what do you do to be able to afford such a beautiful car?
@@ghost-oo6yy spreads lies on your tube
I still have air-cooled 911 dreams but everything you've mentioned down to the general attitude of some owners is spot on. I'd still buy one...but price inflation caused by car flippers has rendered this irrational.
Really great points and presentation. I drive my 911 most days to work and on spirited back road weekend drives. It really is the best all-around sports car for me.
Love the shots in and around PV!
Hey, Matt, this was really good. I’m on the bandwagon. Have owned them and still do. One of my favorite brand reviews was when Everyday Driver compared a few decades of 911s against each other. It was superb. This was good in the same way. You (in good fun) teased that owners are a little lost for words to explain their devotion. I think that’s important because sometimes no explanation is needed from an owners perspective. As an engineer, answers must be explainable. It’s a little ironic (and maybe unexplainable) that the historically best engineered cars for 60 plus years appeal to the very base passions of many enthusiasts. I hope you get to own one soon. I’m subscribing and liking for you to do my part. If you’re ever near Boston, take mine for the weekend. It’s got over 80,000 miles and is driven every day. Joyously and enthusiastically. Cheers, Michael
It is crap. As any media, you can just fabricate your case by selecting answers to show.
Don’t you think that it is strange that they NEVER mention how dangerous a FRONT gas tank car is and all the explosions that resulted in INSTANT death???
@@bb-iq6qw Maybe because there haven't been any?
@@jimiverson3085 Don’t be goofy! You think the car is fire proof? There have been many fire bomb 911’s. Google James Dean, Golden Gate Bridge 911 head on crash, 2 NBA players die 2 911’s, Jack Ass star dies in 911 etc… The 911 is a death trap.😩😩😩
@@bb-iq6qw Hyperbole much? James Dean died in a Spyder - a RACE car - 10 years before the first 911 was sold in the US. He was driving a small, light racing car with zero safety features (remember, 1950s) and a big American car pulled out in front of him. No fire and the mechanic riding with him survived. The Jackass guy died from being, well, a jackass - he was drinking and driving and went off the road and into a tree at over 130 mph. You won't survive that in any car. The Golden Gate crash was a driver who was doing over 100 on the off ramp from the bridge, lost control and went head on into another car coming the other way. Again, the cause of that death was idiocy - since there were 3 people in the car a guy was probably trying to impress his friends with how cool he was, and some drinking was also involved. www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/HAR7105.pdf And the NBA player was drag racing a teammate when he lost control of his car. No fire involved. And NBA players have never been known for their motor racing skills. So, mainly these accidents were caused by stupidity combined with enough money to buy a car that was fast enough to make stupidity dangerous. Darwin won those events.
Love the videos. This is a great insight - it seems like there is a personality around the cars and I have wondered why they were so popular, not just with car people, but dickheads too.
lol
You mean the "shirt open to the sternum, big gold chain" kind of owner?
Because dickheads think they're the best. And when you think you're the best, you must have the best things too, aka Ferrari/Porsche. I think Ferrari owners suffer more from this than Porsche, but all the same. A few other brands have a similar stigma to lesser degrees as well.
"fragile ego"
@@bobdole9163 like lamborghini, tons of people who dont know shit about cars who get a lambo, or even mclaren
My first car was a Porsche. My second car was a Porsche. My third car was a Porsche. I luv their engineering and the way they drive. For the last 15 years, I've owned Toyota automobiles. Not as fun to drive, but they are reliable and inexpensive to own and operate...
I had an excellent year (2020), when I 1. wrote my will, figuring the dread lurgy might take me; 2. realised I ought to do some things from my "one day" list. So I plonked down X UK pounds for a 992 C4S. There were some teething problems (engine mount-related noises which took a little while to fix - a pair of Boxsters were sequentially provided as loaners, which was nice given how good the summer was and how empty the roads were). But I've never enjoyed a car more in my 35 years of car enthusiasm. The solidity (notwithstanding the engine mount problem), the sound, the camaraderie whenever gathered together with other owners, the friendly response (typically) when you turn up in odd places or with odd cargoes (eg bikes), the fascinating handling (accurate but relaxed?), the excellent visibility and practicality all add up to joyful motoring. When I eventually sold it, after a year (I emigrated to a LHD country), I got back X - 5% and could probably have held out for more. They really are as good as repeat owners say.
The weirdest thing for me is that what actually saved Porsche from going tits up was making a suppository shaped SUV. The first time I saw pictures of the Cayenne I nearly cried and i'm sure that Herr Porsche spun once or twice in his grave.
Porsche are now an SUV company that makes some sports cars for PR, but apparently their SUVs are pretty good., if you like that kind of thing. I don't think they saved them from 'going tits up' though, Porsche own half the European car industry.
True but notice how much they look like early 356s if inflated cartoon style.
not true. The transaxles saved Porsche......
@@grahamthompson5581 Volkswagen Group did, not Porsche. VW was the largest(or close to) car company for awhile until the diesel scandal and is now back to #2 I believe.
In its defense the suv hauls ass
I rarely watch KZhead videos from start to finish, however this was masterpiece. You did a great Job Matt and I enjoyed every minute. Thank you!
This is a really really good video. So well researched and articulated. I’m on my 3rd Porsche now and your conclusions are spot on.
I have had a 1983 911 SC and and 2 944 NA's and this has been the shortest explanation on why you should buy or drive a Porsche. Well done.