Pat McAfee Breaks Down The New NFL's "Hybrid Kickoff" Proposal That May Not Ruin Football

2024 ж. 4 Нау.
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  • Is it weird that the part of this that bothers me is that you have to declare an onside kick? I know that it is often obvious, but I love the occasional surprise onside kick

    @reillylawrence7129@reillylawrence71292 ай бұрын
    • Greatest single play in Super Bowl History ⚜⚜⚜

      @randallross420@randallross4202 ай бұрын
    • Exactly

      @LilOak@LilOak2 ай бұрын
    • Yea but you lose less than 20 surprise onside kicks per year in exchange for over 1000 more potential returns. I'm all about it.

      @Ffancrzy@Ffancrzy2 ай бұрын
    • How would an onside kick even work? Just regular rules as they are now? I like the 4 & 15 idea as an onside kick

      @MindFluxx@MindFluxx2 ай бұрын
    • ​@@Ffancrzy I agree with what you're saying, but it should be noted that this is what the NFL has been pushing us to say. They want the kickoff to become a hated and boring play. Makes it easier to just remove or massively change it with little to no pushback

      @Essman614@Essman6142 ай бұрын
  • This rule change will make Pat’s solo surprise onside kick even more iconic, because no one will ever even have the opportunity to try it again

    @reggieorourke6478@reggieorourke64782 ай бұрын
    • Same with Dan Connolly’s legendary runback for nearly a TD

      @makomadns4@makomadns42 ай бұрын
    • How would do an onside kick with this new kickoff change?

      @obeessido@obeessido2 ай бұрын
    • ​@obeessido he explained in the video lol

      @birdmann6923@birdmann69232 ай бұрын
    • ​​@@obeessidohe did explain it, but here it is. In-side kicks can only happen in the fourth quarter, by the trailing team and they have to tell the refs they are doing it. It can not be a surprise,

      @honolulublues5548@honolulublues55482 ай бұрын
    • TBF, there's lot of ways to preserve the spirit of an onside kick. Schiano's proposal for one 4th and 15 down still lets you surprise teams. That play was fantastic, no doubt about it. Until you realize that for every play like that, multiple players literally were injured out of their careers running all of the other BORING kickoffs just to get the 1 in a 100 cool play. It's just not worth the cost. Same reason we didn't let Burfict keep playing when if he played in the 80s, he would have been an NFL idol. We care more about the players now.

      @danlorett2184@danlorett21842 ай бұрын
  • I'll also miss the surprise onside kick. One thing I don't understand: why limit onside kicks to 4th quarter and team from behind only? Seems like an unnecessary restriction to strategy

    @jaredgiven9128@jaredgiven91282 ай бұрын
    • Idk the stats about how often Sean Payton called a surprise onside kick, but I remember another time when the Saints had a successful onside kick after halftime in the regular season against the Cowboys. Saints were winning and they wanted to keep the pressure on. I loved it.

      @mtascp05@mtascp052 ай бұрын
    • Probably because it could really break the game, if they’re going to make it much easier to convert them, as they probably would. You end up in a situation where a kickoff could give them the ball on their 40, and an onside kick that you don’t recover gives them the ball on their 46, why not try it?

      @maxcandlestick8027@maxcandlestick80272 ай бұрын
    • near halftime onsides will be missed

      @betabrett0223@betabrett02232 ай бұрын
    • I mean I can't really see a reason for a team winning to do an onside kick without either looking like the most unsportsmen like team. Or a coach that has no faith in their Defense that has been doing enough to keep the team in the lead. The only people I can think that run on onside before the 4th are usually teams that have a coach playing for his job. Like I think we like the idea of the "surprise Onside kicks" but best case it wins you what? 2 games? Like name me a playoff appearing team that only made it because of one or two onsidekicks and I'll show you how minimal if impacts the history of the Modern NFL.

      @leihamada4672@leihamada46722 ай бұрын
    • Yeah… it sounds like house rules we make when playing the football video games.😂😂😂 no onside unless you behind at the end.

      @TheBeefSlayer@TheBeefSlayerАй бұрын
  • I absolutely HATED the calling of Fair Catch OUTSIDE of the endzone automatically being a touchback. The ball is IN the field of play! You gotta run that.

    @traviszander@traviszander2 ай бұрын
    • I agree. At the most, make it a little 5 yard gain for a fair catch inside the 25. The current (2023) rule sucked the life out of the kickoff.

      @chadportenga7858@chadportenga78582 ай бұрын
    • Or it's marked down there ,if you're not going to advance the ball let it bounce

      @lavoncoleman9285@lavoncoleman9285Ай бұрын
    • @@lavoncoleman9285 exactly. If the balls in play like that, same as a punt.

      @traviszander@traviszanderАй бұрын
    • If it's dangerous don't do it or do it and don't complain about it

      @user-bg4nl3yp4g@user-bg4nl3yp4gАй бұрын
    • For sure, or let it go and chance getting a bad bounce

      @vincents1087@vincents1087Ай бұрын
  • NFL say they are all about the health and safety but yet want a 18 week game and just 1 bye lmao.....yep just coat that "safety" more

    @keikun145@keikun1452 ай бұрын
    • This comment should have 1 million likes

      @NeweraGolf@NeweraGolf2 ай бұрын
    • Aren't they doing 2 bye weeks of they go to 18 games? I think that was outlined in the agreement

      @WalkerDestroyer@WalkerDestroyer2 ай бұрын
    • Damn...they stretching one game out over 18 weeks? Monsters!

      @VikingsFanSouth@VikingsFanSouth2 ай бұрын
    • Poor fellas, they just don't make enough for tha😂

      @brianmartin8256@brianmartin82562 ай бұрын
    • These guys get paid MILLIONS to play the same game kids DONT GET PAID FOR .. playing ONCE A WEEK for only 18 weeks is not a big deal .

      @ReekBrady@ReekBrady2 ай бұрын
  • This sounds like a nightmare to officiate.

    @TangySapling164@TangySapling1642 ай бұрын
    • Not really. There are lots of officials on the field. Everyone will have an assignment.

      @michelangelobuonarroti916@michelangelobuonarroti9162 ай бұрын
    • @@michelangelobuonarroti916 yeah and they've been doing a great job for the past few years, right?

      @jjsea206@jjsea2062 ай бұрын
    • totally agree, this sounds ridiculous for officials, especially considering the "front line" rules about the kickoff.

      @jjsea206@jjsea2062 ай бұрын
    • One official looking down one line, another official looking down another, another's eyes on the kicker, but then they all have to see when the deep official's hand comes down, so where they gonna be looking? Ask XFL officials.

      @goodmaro@goodmaro2 ай бұрын
    • Yeah and could you imagine getting kids to line up and do all this lol

      @shuddle32@shuddle322 ай бұрын
  • The opening kickoff of the any game, the Super Bowl especially, is the money shot for every game. The flash of hundreds or thousands of cameras as the kicker comes up on the ball is one of the best images and moments and sports and it turns into a real dud of a moment when the ball sails out of the end zone or the receiving team fair catches. Excited to see if this brings more excitement back to special teams.

    @dannyrozell7227@dannyrozell72272 ай бұрын
    • the could add this for regular season and then put the normal kick off for the playoffs

      @mattcary8075@mattcary8075Ай бұрын
    • Imagine the best returner in history doesn't get that historic return to open the super bowl for the bears. And like you said...his return is the most iconic money shot in history.

      @mojojojo6400@mojojojo6400Ай бұрын
  • I miss kick off returns! Move the kicking team to the 5 yard line 😑

    @JCJeffrey@JCJeffrey2 ай бұрын
  • How about fix the awful roughing the passer enforcement first

    @garillomode@garillomode2 ай бұрын
    • The enforcement isn’t the issue, it’s the rule itself. Officials have to enforce the rules as written, and the roughing the passer penalty as written is extremely strict.

      @texasvet2729@texasvet27292 ай бұрын
    • That's not the content of this video.

      @ArizonaGunsDave@ArizonaGunsDave2 ай бұрын
    • How about watch a different sport crybaby.

      @brandonman1315@brandonman13152 ай бұрын
    • @@texasvet2729it’s more about the inconsistency of calling it that gets me honestly

      @julianzimmerman5266@julianzimmerman52662 ай бұрын
    • Amen. That rule is ruining the NFL.

      @toddgaak422@toddgaak4222 ай бұрын
  • I want a 70 yard field goal kick. That's the kick off.

    @O4C209@O4C2092 ай бұрын
    • the way the NFL has been moving, i could see that happening in 5-10 years since the NFL wants more high scoring games and more control of the outcome when it comes to Vegas odds

      @theuniversejr@theuniversejr2 ай бұрын
    • Like in Arena Football

      @A_child_of_the_3_and_1-np8tm@A_child_of_the_3_and_1-np8tm2 ай бұрын
    • Ngl I’ve always said if you kickoff and it goes through goalpost it gotta be atleast another point

      @GSB_KD@GSB_KD2 ай бұрын
    • Make kickoffs the Canadian football rule

      @gunit8315@gunit83152 ай бұрын
    • ​@@GSB_KD I think it was 2k5 where you would kickoff through the goalpost and the announcer would say "Give that man 3 points!"

      @codystanton5533@codystanton55332 ай бұрын
  • Dude, killin the onside kick is a dealbreaker. The best thing about it was that you didn’t know when they were going to do it and it was just up to how smart of a coach you were to anticipate it or not you know just kinda like how you call every single other play in football

    @SirPhilosopher@SirPhilosopher2 ай бұрын
  • I'll go off the board. In Canada we have what you would call a 5 yard halo on punt returns. And if the ball stays in the end zone on punts/kickoffs it's 1 point. So in the NFL I'd maybe suggest a 5 or 10 yard halo (smaller field ) if the ball is kicked inside the 20, reducing major hits. And you would still have the ability for an onside kick up to the 20 yard line. And if it hits the end zone, the return team gets a shot at a 2 point conversion. That way they have to try and keep the ball out of the end zone and in play.

    @Actionronnie@Actionronnie2 ай бұрын
    • The thing is the concussions mainly happen on the blocking and not on the tackle, so the halo rule wouldn't help.

      @mae2759@mae27592 ай бұрын
  • I miss kick return specialists that people feared. Can't wait to see it back in the game

    @JediMentat@JediMentat2 ай бұрын
  • This sounds like the nfl wants more games to end 70-20 and a lot more super high scoring games

    @justindonald8792@justindonald87922 ай бұрын
    • Right like give it to mahomes at the 35 or 40 just 5-7 times out of his 12 drives and that’s a guarantee 30 points then he’s still going to score 1-3 times of the other 6 drives so I could see atleast 5 offenses averaging 40 with this kickoff

      @tmoney6371@tmoney63712 ай бұрын
    • I'm just glad they're finally entertaining other options. The kickoff is both the most boring play and the least safe play in the game and to score a TD on it the best strategy is to sign Cordarelle Patterson.

      @Nichrysalis@Nichrysalis2 ай бұрын
    • Casuals want to see TDs. Regular fans will just adapt like always. We will complain, but will still watch.

      @uria2001@uria20012 ай бұрын
    • lol broncos.

      @natec599@natec5992 ай бұрын
    • @@tmoney6371yeah because Mahomes had such a great offense last year when Chris jones gave him the ball on the 40 5 times a game already.

      @Iog0ut@Iog0ut2 ай бұрын
  • At this point just kill the kickoff entirely and give the receiving team the ball, no kick. This is a horrible proposal. R.I.P Football 1872 - 2006

    @surgebaron1860@surgebaron18602 ай бұрын
  • 9:43 my immediate thought is: most people on the return team have their foot on the line and literally can’t move from that spot until their team touches the ball; if you hit a return team player with the kick, the spot of the ball is legitimate and recoverable by the kicking team

    @Alex-tx2dh@Alex-tx2dhАй бұрын
  • Love how they’ll change rules but nothing bout ref

    @GovMode@GovMode2 ай бұрын
    • Refs don't cause CTE. Just heartache and broken televisions 😂

      @Les_Grossman80@Les_Grossman802 ай бұрын
    • Well the refs and bad calls are how you control the narrative and outcome

      @NeverStop909@NeverStop9092 ай бұрын
    • @@NeverStop909 be a ref then. This isn't based at you. But nobody wants to ref. The NFL need to hire and train full time refs. Period. You got Russ Wilson earning 85 million dollars over two years for a team he isn't playing for, but no full time adjudicators. Pathetic.

      @Les_Grossman80@Les_Grossman802 ай бұрын
    • @@Les_Grossman80changing kickoffs isn’t gonna help with cte. Lol safety? NFL doesn’t care about safety. We have 1 bye week and still playing on mondays, Thursdays, sat. But yeah they care…

      @jcreature11@jcreature112 ай бұрын
    • @@jcreature11 I never said it would. I was just talking to my mate saying you can protect the QB all you want and basically ruin the kick return, but O line is going to O line. Defense is going to defense. Those guys getting their bell rang a bunch of times a game. But in all fairness, they can't sit back and let it happen. It's millions of Benjamin's bro.

      @Les_Grossman80@Les_Grossman802 ай бұрын
  • When Pat admits a mistake from minutes ago under his breathe you know he's passionately talking about this stuff.

    @10KCannabis@10KCannabis2 ай бұрын
  • Dude SPECIAL TEAMS are some of the MOST EXCITING PLAYS...

    @v8Buster87@v8Buster872 ай бұрын
  • kudos to Pat for explaining this so well and so in-depth! Well done!

    @robfultz7946@robfultz79462 ай бұрын
  • As an official, this will be a pain to officiate.

    @whyamimrpink78@whyamimrpink782 ай бұрын
    • i think the NFL is aware of this since it puts more blame on the refs when things go wrong and less blame on the NFL as a whole. its all a play to have more control of the outcome imo

      @theuniversejr@theuniversejr2 ай бұрын
    • It won’t be. It seems pretty simple.

      @michaelscott33@michaelscott332 ай бұрын
    • I think that actually a feature, not a bug, in the NFLs eyes. The more convoluted they can make the rules with vague “judgement call” penalties, the easier it is to put their thumb on the scales. The NFL isn’t scripted, but it definitely feels like the NFL has a vested interest in the outcome of a lot of the major games in the way they get officiated and all. And, the vaguer you make the rules, the easier it is for the NFL to just stand behind the officials calls and say “it’s a judgement call”.

      @nathan1sixteen@nathan1sixteen2 ай бұрын
    • @@nathan1sixteendude what… your team must’ve gotten beat in the playoffs and you’re coping.

      @mattelmquist4473@mattelmquist44732 ай бұрын
    • C'mon dude, it's completely obvious they don't even bother to hide it anymore​@@mattelmquist4473

      @stewpidasso3910@stewpidasso39102 ай бұрын
  • The kick off return for a TD record will never be broken.

    @matthewcharboneau733@matthewcharboneau7332 ай бұрын
    • You mean length, correct (the current record is 103 yards)? The number of kickoffs returned for TDs, I’d imagine, will increase substantially if this gets implemented.

      @nathan1sixteen@nathan1sixteen2 ай бұрын
    • they should get rid of touchback penalty and make them run it out of the endzone.

      @sginrummy88@sginrummy882 ай бұрын
    • 109 yards I'm pretty sure ​@@nathan1sixteen

      @Koalaz1@Koalaz12 ай бұрын
    • @@nathan1sixteenpretty sure Patterson did a 109 yarder

      @bhoutdoors507@bhoutdoors5072 ай бұрын
    • Nope. Not with this rule. Really not with the current rules either. If they do implement this rule then there will certainly be a lot of kickoffs returned for touchdowns. But obviously they'll be 20-30 yards shorter than the old kick returns for touchdowns were.

      @VainRain69@VainRain692 ай бұрын
  • That was nice the replay of you recovering your own onside kick. I never see that happen before. KOOL!

    @jhglaze@jhglaze2 ай бұрын
  • Pat brings so much info to the table. The kicking is the least studied by casual football fans to the point that kickers are not considered football players. The strategy in kicking reminds me of the MLB. It is so important in football. They can make or break a game, season, or SB.

    @josephtwining752@josephtwining7522 ай бұрын
  • I don’t mind moving the blockers up etc. I’d prefer just moving the kicker back, eliminating fair catches = touchbacks, and make the return guy field the ball. Kicks into the end zone should be live until the return guy fields it and downs it.

    @Adam-xo5iq@Adam-xo5iq2 ай бұрын
  • AJ was onto something with the kicker being a free runner lol.

    @TruthinStore@TruthinStore2 ай бұрын
  • This reminds me of that scene from "The Dark Knight" with Joker breaking a cue stick in two, one guy with the football surrounded by everybody, yeah, "Try outs" . . . 😂

    @jaefuturelyknownas7732@jaefuturelyknownas7732Ай бұрын
  • What would be really cool is to have an NFL summer event where this concept was put through it's paces. Attendees: Special teams coaches and 2 kickers from each team. Appropriate Zebras. College players to make up the O and D lines and kick returners. Press to make it a television event I would for sure watch!

    @JP-jq1qx@JP-jq1qx2 ай бұрын
  • I can dig it. Miss me some great kickoff returns. Makes special teams and their choices more relevant as well.

    @aaronberga8803@aaronberga88032 ай бұрын
  • They've ruined the onsides kick just like they ruined going for two.... no chance for trick plays and trick plays are fun.

    @JabezGill@JabezGill2 ай бұрын
    • You see more two attempts these days, and plenty of trick plays get run in those attempts. You’re just sad an archaic trick play is gone. If you care so much about preserving every SINGLE play just because it was always done that way, why aren’t you complaining about no one dropkicking anymore?

      @Fractured_Unity@Fractured_Unity2 ай бұрын
    • @@Fractured_Unity He's talking about fake field goals for a 2 point conversion. This new rule is crap

      @BGerbs66@BGerbs662 ай бұрын
    • ​@@BGerbs66yeah because the old way wasnt stupid and silly and dangerous to begin with

      @freddiesimmons1394@freddiesimmons13942 ай бұрын
    • @@BGerbs66 Oh no! One single play the fake pat got sacrificed for way more 2pt conversions. I’ll take that any day. I know what we’re about, do you?

      @Fractured_Unity@Fractured_Unity2 ай бұрын
    • oops forgot to check in.. 🙄

      @Elliesbow@Elliesbow2 ай бұрын
  • Rules rules rules omg they make the game so damn complicated. Just bring back onside kicks please

    @podawe8051@podawe80512 ай бұрын
  • I was waiting for the NFK to eliminate the kick off all together. With all of the touchbacks, there really isn't a reason to have a kickoff.

    @Godric_71@Godric_71Ай бұрын
  • look how Devin Hester electrified the return leave it.

    @user-wt5bu9jm3u@user-wt5bu9jm3u2 ай бұрын
    • The kickoff rules have changed A TON since Hester was returning, though

      @nathan1sixteen@nathan1sixteen2 ай бұрын
    • All of his touchdowns came before the kickoffs changed. They absolutely gutted the kickoff at the end of his career. That's why he vanished from the NFL basically. Nobody was kicking to him since they could now kick it out of the endzone. Same thing with players like Patrick Peterson and DeSean Jackson. They were destructive in the return game on punts but useless on kickoffs. If Cordell Patterson played during the original kickoff rules he probably would absolutely dominate the return game.

      @VainRain69@VainRain692 ай бұрын
    • Look at how the other 31 teams didnt have him, and how he's retired af anyway

      @freddiesimmons1394@freddiesimmons13942 ай бұрын
    • You do understand that kickoff were contributing greatly to CTE and the league HAS to change the rules accordingly right? So many fans have this childish expectation that you can just ignore negative consequences. Are you 6 years old>?

      @Dynamice1337@Dynamice13372 ай бұрын
    • @@Dynamice1337 lol no they weren't. you're embarrassing yourself, kid. snowflakes don't belong in football.

      @crushedscouter9522@crushedscouter95222 ай бұрын
  • i actually kind of like this because it also gives the kicker position more responsibility and a need to hone their craft even more because of having to land it in the landing zone.

    @ericcromell2375@ericcromell23752 ай бұрын
    • I would rather see the kickers hone their craft to carry out a strategy rather than just to stay within a complex set of rules that make little or no sense

      @TheBigBlueMarble@TheBigBlueMarble2 ай бұрын
    • It's alright I just dont like the 35 and 40 it should be 25 and 30. The no on-side kicks thing is also super lame. I guess if they're already going to be out to the 40 you'd be better off only onside kicking lol... Chance at the ball for basically a 10 yard penalty... Idk it's a step in the right direction but I feel they need to change a few things.

      @Stephen_Viele@Stephen_Viele2 ай бұрын
  • I love that Pat brought up the Polish Boot! Sebastian Janikowski!!

    @jackiechan6460@jackiechan64602 ай бұрын
  • I already miss the wedge breaker. One of my favorite plays to watch was the guy running down the field and crashing into the wedge.

    @Murph_.@Murph_.28 күн бұрын
  • I'm up for this proposition. Way better than the snooze fest we had this season.

    @SimoLEnko@SimoLEnko2 ай бұрын
    • Snooze fest= phenomenal defensive adjustment to new offensive schemes… ok loser

      @lukekiefer5964@lukekiefer59642 ай бұрын
  • This seems... convoluted.

    @itsamedylan@itsamedylan2 ай бұрын
    • To be fair, a lot about the game is convoluted, we're just used to it lol.

      @michaelcook7778@michaelcook77782 ай бұрын
    • It's not, at all. You kick it into the zone. Nobody moves for a bit

      @freddiesimmons1394@freddiesimmons13942 ай бұрын
    • Not convoluted at all. Just pay attention.

      @derekmoll1498@derekmoll14982 ай бұрын
    • It's not. He just took a long way of explaining it.. The kicker kicks it gets in the landing zone. The rest of the teams are on the 35, and 40 5 yards apart. can't move until ball is touched. No running head start. That's all it is. Higher return rates instead of just kicking it out. The kicker just have to have skill now

      @FaceFamous@FaceFamous2 ай бұрын
    • ​@@derekmoll1498exactly is a real easy concept. Pat just made it sound complex😂

      @FaceFamous@FaceFamous2 ай бұрын
  • Instead of saying that man is the creature of circumstance, it would be nearer the mark to say that man is the architect of circumstance.

    @user-ci5lz5nl7k@user-ci5lz5nl7kАй бұрын
  • Kickoff used to be EXCITING

    @clintonreisig@clintonreisigАй бұрын
  • I have no idea what you guys have been talking about for the past 10 minutes. This is the most convoluted answer to a problem that seems very straightforward.

    @user-gu5ui7dl5q@user-gu5ui7dl5q2 ай бұрын
    • The convolusion is intentional by the NFL. The more complicated, the harder it will be for your average fan to follow, the easier it is to put their finger on the scales of the outcome. Also, it’s a good way for the NFL to have the excuse in a few years to go “we tried to make it safer, but you didn’t like it (or we couldn’t), so our only option is to get rid of the kickoff altogether”. And next it will be some other “unsafe play” until they just out flags on them

      @nathan1sixteen@nathan1sixteen2 ай бұрын
    • ​@@nathan1sixteen hows your tinfoil hat fitting? Sorry you and the poor OP consider any of this convoluted.

      @freddiesimmons1394@freddiesimmons13942 ай бұрын
    • Not bad but how about this for a simple solution?: Go back to the original scheme in the first 75 years of football on kickoff BUT - allowing the receiving team to ADD one additional player for protection / blocking/ --- less concussions ? Maybe. Exciting? Probably. More run backs ? Absolutly. Longer run backs and possible touchdowns? YES

      @CrochetNewsNetwork@CrochetNewsNetwork2 ай бұрын
    • It's honestly not even that difficult. I found the explanation pretty easy to follow.

      @AndyWitmyer@AndyWitmyer2 ай бұрын
    • @@CrochetNewsNetworkSo you want to go back to the old days yet fundamentally change the whole game of football by allowing one team to have more players on the field at once

      @rickhaavisto9023@rickhaavisto9023Ай бұрын
  • Pat and crew, thanks. You gave the first clear explanation of the new kick off. I have listened to others and only understand it now. Well done, good graphics. Thanks.

    @user-ku9wb7jd9l@user-ku9wb7jd9l2 ай бұрын
  • I once heard an interesting thought on the kickoff that might be worth looking into at this point. Instead of a kickoff, the "kicking team" starts with the ball 4th & 15 from the 40. They can then go for the 4th down, much like an onside kick, or they can punt it away. With the power of today's punters, the outcome would be close to the same as a traditional kickoff, but still provides for the thrill and advantages of the onside kick.

    @EdStarwind@EdStarwindАй бұрын
  • Just move the kicker back and get rid of the fair catch. No need to completely change it.

    @ginganinga1010@ginganinga10102 ай бұрын
  • Let’s see it in action before passing judgement

    @VGKDean@VGKDean2 ай бұрын
    • I like it I just dont like the 35 and 40 that feels like a bit much. Also the no on-side kicks unless you're trailing in the 4th is kind of lame

      @Stephen_Viele@Stephen_Viele2 ай бұрын
  • Seems like it makes the kicker position harder and more important. Love the brand.

    @Coltzaboss@Coltzaboss2 ай бұрын
  • One of the better solutions I’ve seen tbh kinda shocked honestly

    @chiefsrule22@chiefsrule222 ай бұрын
  • You did a great job explaining this! I've only been watching football 3 years and I totally understood your explanation. ❤ you're starting to rub off on me lol

    @bodhi1462@bodhi14622 ай бұрын
  • This sounds rather interesting… would love to see it put in trial runs prior to being implemented. I enjoyed watching the XFL’s kickoffs.

    @trippwilson5421@trippwilson54212 ай бұрын
    • It has been... this is very similar to the XFL, consider that the trial

      @tylerschroeder3722@tylerschroeder37222 ай бұрын
    • XFL was the best for kickoff excitement

      @angelmiron1991@angelmiron19912 ай бұрын
  • I like this a lot, makes kickers way more valuable

    @danielboespflug527@danielboespflug5272 ай бұрын
    • As if they aren’t already incredibly valuable. Harrison butker has been the most consistent kicker in the league recently, he kind of carried the chiefs last year.

      @mattelmquist4473@mattelmquist44732 ай бұрын
  • Agree. Like in basketball, and the possession arrow you get the ball at the 30 after every score. You don’t need more injuries on kick offs.

    @alexkatsanos8475@alexkatsanos8475Ай бұрын
  • Kickoffs are one of my personal favorite plays, when they're returned. If the goal is to not make kickoffs pointless, and prevent injuries, then this is a good idea. Almost 80% of kickoffs were touchbacks last year. 17% of all concussion injuries were from the kickoff. Yet kickoffs were only 6% of all plays. That's a lot. Yeah, this is going to look different but I guarantee after next season we're going to be happy about this decision. I want kickoff returns actually back.

    @Anthony-bx5yk@Anthony-bx5yk2 ай бұрын
    • I’m at least willing to see what happens. It’s a step in the right direction if only because we will know what does and doesn’t work

      @WMDistraction@WMDistraction2 ай бұрын
    • I saw concussions not from kickoffs

      @US2A@US2A2 ай бұрын
    • @@US2A Yes so they're trying to reduce them from the play that it happens the most on.

      @Anthony-bx5yk@Anthony-bx5yk2 ай бұрын
    • @@Anthony-bx5yk Kareem Jackson steps into chat

      @US2A@US2A2 ай бұрын
    • Finally, a good comment.

      @dclomg5@dclomg52 ай бұрын
  • I think NFL players and fans understand the risks of playing football. Just let football be football

    @ragingcamel7356@ragingcamel73562 ай бұрын
    • Been saying this for all sports, grown ass adults know what they are getting into as pro athletes, make em sign a concussion waiver and let them play the game

      @evanschneider2947@evanschneider29472 ай бұрын
    • Agreed

      @dontaveonlove626@dontaveonlove6262 ай бұрын
    • and if they dont want to sign the waiver then bye bye. but real athletes will play. Or let the TEAMS themselves give health care benefits to their players... @@evanschneider2947

      @natebriskey9031@natebriskey90312 ай бұрын
    • Preach! You don’t see combat athletes complaining about it. They just get out when they feel they need to

      @GSB_KD@GSB_KD2 ай бұрын
    • The kickoff has evolved naturally over time into complete trash. It is wasted time and an excuse for more commercial breaks. The rules need to be adapted to keep that aspect of the game more interesting. This proposed change is a huge positive

      @jokojabo@jokojabo2 ай бұрын
  • I like the idea and proposal. At the end of the day, it's yet another layer of strategy and entertainment. I've also always had a thought that instead of a coin toss pre-game, maybe we'd involve some sort of kick, or something similar, to involve the kicker even more. You know, something of that sort maybe.

    @ElembeeAtUTB@ElembeeAtUTB2 ай бұрын
  • If the kickoff goes through the uprights give the kicking team a point or 2

    @stewpidasso3910@stewpidasso39102 ай бұрын
    • I've been thinking that for years. With this rule package, they could say you can only go for that in the 4th quarter if trailing. If made, the receiving team gets the ball at the 20. If missed, they get the ball at the 40. If they made it worth 2 points for a make, then make it the 50 for a miss.

      @keithouderkirk7493@keithouderkirk74932 ай бұрын
    • @@keithouderkirk7493so they are already in field goal range just cause of that lol. It’s becoming pathetic advancing teams to almost the 50 without even doing anything.

      @flexxn6770@flexxn67702 ай бұрын
    • No. Free throws are for the NBA. You can't have this for the NFL because there is nothing the opposing team can do to defend.

      @markula_4040@markula_40402 ай бұрын
    • No points, but start the offense on the 10 or 15.

      @rickdollings7382@rickdollings73822 ай бұрын
    • I've always thought that. Reward for an incredible feat.

      @Godric_71@Godric_71Ай бұрын
  • This entire thing seems set up to benefit the returning team and screw over the kicking team.

    @hunterspud2991@hunterspud29912 ай бұрын
    • yup its bs. no more muffs recovered by D. no more onside kicks recovered by the D lol stupid.

      @kingkracker1998@kingkracker19982 ай бұрын
    • Which matters 0% to anyone.

      @freddiesimmons1394@freddiesimmons13942 ай бұрын
    • that's part of why I think this new proposal could be really great though. Kickoffs are boring in their current state, they're completely unimportant to the game. This reduces injuries and has the potential ability to make games more exciting? Sign me up

      @kneesnap1041@kneesnap10412 ай бұрын
    • @@kneesnap1041 by taking away every exciting play possible? no more muff kicks, no more kicks returnedd for TD, no more suprise onside kicks. thats exciting?

      @kingkracker1998@kingkracker19982 ай бұрын
    • @@kingkracker1998 kickoff isn't exciting right now. Hasn't been exciting in years. No idea how you think this makes kickoffs less exciting

      @kneesnap1041@kneesnap10412 ай бұрын
  • Seems like a lot to officiate against, but I like this way better than what we have now. Since no one can go forward until the ball hits the ground or is touched hang time means nothing and I would say the best is to get a good kicker that can line drive the kick and land in the zone. That means teams can move before the returner handles the ball or it goes into end zone for touchback at the 20.

    @BronkBuilt@BronkBuilt2 ай бұрын
  • I like the new rules, but I would give a team the option. Of using the new kickoff or the old kickoff but you kick it from your own 5. So if you want to get a running start, overload the formation, all that you can.... But you're either going for an onside or trying some trickiness of some kind.

    @keith4776@keith47762 ай бұрын
  • Players in the Super Bowl didn't know the overtime rules, we think those same guys will understand all of these intricacies?

    @Schweinas84@Schweinas842 ай бұрын
    • Good, then the smart teams with well coached players will have an advantage.

      @stevenclark5173@stevenclark51732 ай бұрын
    • They had no problem figuring it out in the XFL

      @HunteronaBudget@HunteronaBudget2 ай бұрын
    • Believe or not, there is a whole team called “Special Teams” that all the practice is this

      @ricksmith2127@ricksmith21272 ай бұрын
    • "Intricacies", you people are hilarious

      @freddiesimmons1394@freddiesimmons13942 ай бұрын
    • @@freddiesimmons1394 again...read my first sentence. These rules aren't too "intricate" for me. It's for the players who already don't know the rules and now have to learn playground rules

      @Schweinas84@Schweinas842 ай бұрын
  • This isn’t nearly as complicated as people think. It just sounds complicated. Most of us have no clue what proper formations are but the players do…usually.

    @DoctorBiobrain@DoctorBiobrain2 ай бұрын
    • I'm declaring as eligible.

      @softjones3128@softjones31282 ай бұрын
    • Or we can just have normal kickoffs and realize football is inherently dangerous

      @gratefuldeadmau5610@gratefuldeadmau56102 ай бұрын
    • @@gratefuldeadmau5610 Everything has the potential for danger. Should we remove seatbelts and airbags from cars because driving is inherently dangerous? And maybe we should let football players use weapons and take cheap shots after the play because the sport is already dangerous. The point is to balance gameplay with safety, not just allow players to be needlessly hurt because they already have the potential to be hurt.

      @DoctorBiobrain@DoctorBiobrain2 ай бұрын
    • ​​@@gratefuldeadmau5610 It's exceptionally rare that a team even scores on a kickoff. The vast majority of kickoffs end with the ball either getting kicked through the end zone, a touchback, or fair catched. Very rarely does a returner even want to try to run after the catch. The entire kickoff as it's been is just incredibly antiquated and stale. That the risk of serious injury is so high, just so a team can maybe get the ball to what is usually the 40 at best only makes the kickoff that much more stupid. I mean, I get your sentiment - I'm not a fan of how wussified the NFL has generally become as most of their safety rules changes have basically crippled what modern defenses can do - but, in this particular case, I think the proposed changes would actually make the game fundamentally better.

      @AndyWitmyer@AndyWitmyer2 ай бұрын
  • This seems like a ton more work than the proposal from a few years ago to just turn the kick off into a punt play with some kind of analysis to figure out how long the "4th and X" option would need to be to make it equivalent to an onside kick.

    @LennonMarx420@LennonMarx4202 ай бұрын
  • besides the no more surprise onside kick, this actually sounds like a great concept (might need some tweaks, but seems like a great way to add strategy)

    @JohnnyGuice@JohnnyGuice2 ай бұрын
  • The only thing I'd change is allow the Onside Kick to be a surprise, and available in the second half rather than just the 4th quarter. Even if it's "a dying art," the sheer potential for that upset is entertaining enough. Otherwise I think this is a very fair compromise on all fronts.

    @The1Goby@The1Goby2 ай бұрын
    • There’s no way to have a surprise onside if the layout of the players is the way it is

      @corndawg6007@corndawg60072 ай бұрын
    • They would have to change they way they line up and announce it as a on side kick. The way he described, there will no longer be able to have a surprise on side kick. If you take away the surprise, it won’t be as exciting, imo.

      @AT-gh9js@AT-gh9js2 ай бұрын
  • Since the kicking team can't leave the setup area until the ball touches the ground or reaches the 20, will this basically end fair catches?

    @SabertoothDeathmouse@SabertoothDeathmouse2 ай бұрын
    • Which I would say is the desired effect.

      @brianmiller1077@brianmiller10772 ай бұрын
    • Yes, fair catches killed kickoffs

      @wwesuperstar1100@wwesuperstar11002 ай бұрын
  • If you can get short distance and hang time, it will be very similar to a rugby kick-off. Is there such a thing as aerial contests for the ball on a regular kickoff?

    @davsavchav@davsavchav2 ай бұрын
    • Only in Canadian rules. American rules introduced "opportunity to make a fair catch" about a century ago.

      @goodmaro@goodmaro2 ай бұрын
  • I’m for recoveries I’d love to see examples of this before the season starts.

    @jhglaze@jhglaze2 ай бұрын
  • Here's my proposition. Instead of kickoffs, have a WWE ring in the middle of the field. Two players in their respected positions will rumble it out. Whoever comes out on top, takes the ball.

    @longhairasian2902@longhairasian29022 ай бұрын
  • Score. Offense gets the ball back on the 40 but it's 4th & 15. You can go for it, or punt. Simpler. More fun. Better option for an onside kick type situation by going for it on 4th & 15. Less risk for injury than a typical kickoff. I don't know why this is so hard.

    @whoozyer6808@whoozyer68082 ай бұрын
    • Probably would never kick it vs a team with an explosive return game but a meddling defense..

      @jeremyg9305@jeremyg93052 ай бұрын
  • I'm not sure that my comments might be being deleted, but you did a great job explaining this! I've only been watching football 3 years and I totally understood your explanation. Thank you so much!

    @bodhi8260@bodhi82602 ай бұрын
    • Took much too long to explain it, instead of just laying it all out at once without back-and-forth. First the motivations, then the *entire* proposal, then opinions. Like real committee work.

      @goodmaro@goodmaro2 ай бұрын
  • This needs to happen! More fun to watch.

    @jbart2478@jbart24782 ай бұрын
  • The only thing that can “save” football is being able to challenge every play/ penalty

    @peterdagnese453@peterdagnese4532 ай бұрын
  • While we stop to think, we often miss our opportunity.

    @user-yq6mi8br3w@user-yq6mi8br3wАй бұрын
  • Have y’all seen how the Aussie NRL Rugby League kick off?

    @isut@isut2 ай бұрын
  • 2040: NFL is flag football

    @zachspurlin6419@zachspurlin64192 ай бұрын
    • I've been saying that, except it'll happen in 10 years. that's why they're inoculating us with flag football in the Pro Bowl.

      @in5d@in5d2 ай бұрын
    • no way it takes that long. 4 maybe 5 years from now tops.

      @rockzhard2009@rockzhard20092 ай бұрын
    • @@in5d”inoculating” nice word, good way of putting it

      @Keyser___Soze@Keyser___Soze2 ай бұрын
    • @@Keyser___SozeI think he means indoctrinating us

      @tmoney6371@tmoney63712 ай бұрын
    • ⁠@@tmoney6371inoculating is when you introduce something, more specifically to the body but they’re puttin it into peoples heads so it kinda works.

      @Buddystemz@Buddystemz2 ай бұрын
  • Too convoluted. Just back the kicker up and turn it into flag football for a play. True hybrid play.

    @nickmcbeth6609@nickmcbeth66092 ай бұрын
  • Kicker position would become in more valuable. Adding accuracy in distance of kick. I wonder if some teams would convert their Punter into hybrids for these kicks and keep a big boot FG guy as their Kicker.

    @lactoseintolerantgaming2711@lactoseintolerantgaming27112 ай бұрын
  • Hmm, I like it, except for the kicking zone. You should be able to kick it in the end zone and make them take it out there. But it does allow strategy for kickers.

    @78town@78town2 ай бұрын
  • I HATE it. Bring back the wedge and wedge busters! It is fairly simple - if you are worried about long term side effects, do not play football.

    @gmennc2648@gmennc26482 ай бұрын
    • Yeah and if you are worried about car crashes just don’t drive anywhere ever, lmao delusional

      @711smb@711smb2 ай бұрын
    • Exactly! It’s like smoking cigarettes. Back in the days up until the 1960’s nobody really knew how bad it was. But now anyone who smokes knows the risks. The old players up until the early 2000’s probably didn’t know full risks of brain damage, except maybe common sense should have told them. But nobody playing now can say they don’t know the risks.

      @wilc.2095@wilc.20952 ай бұрын
    • @@711smbthis is a terrible analogy. I’m not being paid millions to drive my car. I also have insurance in case something bad happens. I’m not expecting the city or state to pay for my injuries if I choose to drive my car and get hurt.

      @vapesnob7603@vapesnob76032 ай бұрын
    • @@vapesnob7603you missed the point of the analogy. It was: “What a stupid point of view you expressed.”

      @skeptic_al@skeptic_alАй бұрын
    • ​@@711smbThat is a childish comparison, but I would agree. Why would anyone fear a car crash? You must be a mess in a vehicle. You should advise anyone who gets in your car that you are terrified to drive. People don't need to play football to go about their day, so it is an unequal comparison. Even with the pathetic rules, people still get injured, where does it end? You don't have to be a roofer, you don't have to be an iron worker, and you don't have to play football. The observation of simple minds is so entertaining!

      @derekjet7715@derekjet7715Ай бұрын
  • NFL football is a joke now and keeps getting worse 😆

    @congahydra9996@congahydra99962 ай бұрын
  • I know its a crazy thought but if they dont want injuries put the the ball of the 50 and let them try to make it through the uprights. If they make it they get 1 pt either way the other team gets it as a touchback. I dont know if this would add or take away from the game but I like the idea.

    @danielcobb1368@danielcobb13682 ай бұрын
  • All three of my concussions in football happened on kickoff or kick return

    @UrbinoZokin@UrbinoZokin2 ай бұрын
  • They could just make it so it you call a fair catch you have to start the drive from there or if you fumble or trip and fall your down there but I would move the receiving teams devfenders back 5-10 yards as well

    @CountryChrixx@CountryChrixx2 ай бұрын
  • Hi, how are you? Pat I love your breakdown of the new kick off. Can we also change the muffed punt rule. I think if you drop the punt it's a live ball come on right.

    @ericnunnally7186@ericnunnally71862 ай бұрын
    • I hate this breakdown. Way too slow and disorganized. They should pretend they're a committee and the emcee is introducing the proposal as a motion, including the history of previous reforms in the NFL and elsewhere, and the motivations for the proposal. And the proposal itself should include *all* the details but just the facts, as closely as are known at this time. Then and only then proceed to discussion of the motion. If the proposal was explained thoroughly there should be no need for clarifying questions. Don't bother with a vote, though.

      @goodmaro@goodmaro2 ай бұрын
  • they can use the first down markers on the side of the field to mark the 20 so people know too

    @trevor8467@trevor84672 ай бұрын
  • To add one more element, there should be a way to make points out of it for the kicking team. If the kicker puts the ball through the uprights, that should be 2 points, and the ball starts at the 20 for the receiving team. If it's missed, ball on the 40or 45 for the receiving team.

    @waharris5924@waharris5924Ай бұрын
  • I like your explanation. I read about this play and was against it; however, after listening to this segment, I can see the added utility. Yet, I do agree that announcing an onside kick will hurt its chances of success. There may still have to be an adjustment to the onside process.

    @lucaiswallace@lucaiswallace2 ай бұрын
  • The gap between the kicking teams and the first touch location is huge. A fast returner is going to cover a lot of ground, right?

    @paulschirf9259@paulschirf92592 ай бұрын
    • Nixon for the Packers will ride fourth

      @DiegkBiel-lc3gt@DiegkBiel-lc3gtАй бұрын
  • I love it. Places more importance on special teams and kickers, and also enhances the game by adding skill based and strategy based plays and parts to the game, adding more tactics as well

    @International_man_of_mystery@International_man_of_mystery2 ай бұрын
  • They're talking about end of game whether or not you go for the 0-20 landing rolls into the end zone or take the set 35. I think the caliber of kicker is just going to get better. Kickers that can't reliably land it in the 0-15 or even 0-10 area are going to have a lot less value than those that can. Its like how the QB has adapted overtime.

    @Acklon@Acklon2 ай бұрын
  • He who has health has hope, and he who has hope has everything.

    @user-wl5oe5qc7d@user-wl5oe5qc7dАй бұрын
  • Some people think it's holding that makes one strong sometimes it's letting go.

    @LindsayReynolds-wg6yi@LindsayReynolds-wg6yiАй бұрын
  • I like the general form of the line up. I don’t like the landing zone idea. Back the kicker up a bit perhaps. Ball must go to the other 30. If the ball touches the ground and rolls into the end zone out the player can return or kneel it to the 20 or 25. If the ball lands in the end zone or out of bounds, ball goes to the 40. Ball rolls out the back of the end zone touchback. Ball goes out the sidelines of the end zone take it to the 40.

    @BuddyTobyTV@BuddyTobyTV2 ай бұрын
  • kick off from the 1 yard line... no return team. LOL!!

    @bradpirochta9293@bradpirochta92932 ай бұрын
  • I love 90% of this idea! I think that the kicker should be able to join the coverage immediately. I feel like most coaches would not really utilize the starting place kicker anyway. I also hate that an onside kick has to be done only in the 4th quarter. Though, when it comes to keeping the ball, I also like the idea of replacing the inside kick. Instead, having a 1 play opportunity starting on their own 25 yards line where the 1st down mark would be at the 50. This is generally a good change though. I love returns

    @ColinCreighton@ColinCreighton2 ай бұрын
  • I'm worried that this could be a surprising disadvantage for the return team just because the blockers won't have eyes on when the ball is touched or hits the ground making them more reactive than proactive.

    @unholy_squid3234@unholy_squid32342 ай бұрын
  • This is a really interesting change to the game. The onside kick restriction is weird, but I guess we'll see how that goes. I like the idea of the landing zone but I feel like they should have moved the kicker back a bit to compensate? Idk. I'm not a expert lol

    @Sylaerix@Sylaerix2 ай бұрын
  • Not a huge football fan but typically watch the big games. This past superbowl the kickers had such a big boot that they were kicking it past the endzone almost everytime for a touchback. This new kickoff actually sounds really interesting and adds some more technicality to the play.

    @turn2customz@turn2customz2 ай бұрын
  • Here's a crazy but simple idea that I think would work, add to player safety, and add a completely new element to the game. Allow one forward pass for the receiving team on every kickoff or punt return up to 10 yards from the point of the reception. The kicking team would have to focus more on the actions of the other 10 players, not just getting past them to destroy 1 player at full speed.

    @VegasTigger@VegasTiggerАй бұрын
  • The kick cover team has to be positive which direction the ball is going. Plus use the lateral pass

    @user-li3qf3nn8s@user-li3qf3nn8sАй бұрын
  • I’m having some trouble with this what’s happening, in rugby league kickoff our injury rate is very low. So what’s going on?

    @nervawel@nervawel2 ай бұрын
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