The Real Five Points, The Neighborhood That Inspired 'Gangs of New York'
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Martin Scorsese's period epic Gangs of New York took up residence in the chaos-ridden New York City neighborhoods of the mid-1800s, populated by eccentric characters and vicious acts of aggression. Its depiction wasn't entirely accurate, but it was based on a very real neighborhood and the very real misery it experienced. Five Points, a major intersection in lower Manhattan, was home to a host of impoverished immigrants seeking a better future for their families. That future wasn't easy to come by; newcomers mostly encountered hostility and distrust, which often boiled over into conflict.
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Absolutely amazing movie. My maternal grandmother, while she was still alive, told me she came off the boat and lived around the 5 Points in 1910 and lived through Prohibition. All her old stories from that area is what drew me to watch that movie in the first place. Times were so different back then.
Also known as your maternal grandmother - just fyi
No it was actually horse piss garbage and lent fuel to bullshit like pirates of the fagabean
So she lived through the ku klux Klan fighting Irish Catholic police officers era?
@@greywater3186well whooptie doo Basil
@@schnarfschnarf5886 “Ignorance is an enemy, even to its owner. Knowledge is a friend, even to its hater. Ignorance hates knowledge because it is too pure. Knowledge fears ignorance because it is too sure.” Sri Chinmoy No one individual on the planet knows everything, but we can all do our best to share our bits of knowledge with each other.
Daniel Day-Lewis deserved an Oscar for his portrayal of Bill the Butcher.
Bummed he lost to Adriene Brody since The Pianist was a good movie
Yes, he terrified me.
Totally agree! I think they messed up submitting him for Best and not Supporting. Brody was great in Pianist, but I think he def would have outshined and beat Chris Cooper in Adaptation. Plus Leo was really the protagonist of the movie.
You bet!!!!!❤
That was a stacked year
As a former New Yorker, I can say most of NYC it is still a smelly fart jar...
That's the beauty of ny .it's ok it makes us hungry and resilient.
That's because you've been away from civilization too long.
My family came from Ireland to the five points in the 1860s, a lot of stories have been passed down about that time. My family worked hard and dragged themselves out of that hell hole, nothing was given to them but misery.
Sadly Irish we’re treated the same in Canada, was not easy for them
Were they from the Dead Rabbits?
Dead rabbits? Who knows, they left their past in the past. Like I said move on.
fascinating
Seems like all families who came over back then (including my Italian and Jewish grandparents)within two generations-dragged themselves up by their boot straps, became respectful citizens and contributed to making America what it once was....Meanwhile, there's a group that's been here for over ten generations and they're still in the hole-the gutter. And none of the new immigrants are interested in perpetuating "America."...sorry, but I just had to say all of the above.
You know something, it's fascinating to study the history of a city's urban geography. So much can change in 100 or so years.
mY hometown changed in like 5
My hometown has changed dramatically in the last 30 years. In 70 years it’s going to be a very different place than the city I grew up in. I suspect this is the case with many cities that have seen population growth during this time. As new people move in, many areas of wealth change. With that the community surrounding those neighborhoods change as well. I find it fascinating. Societies are in a constant state of change. Somehow we think the age we find ourselves in is different from those who lived over the last two hundred thousand years. We aren’t different or better than those people. We just have the accumulation of their knowledge.
@@greywater3186I like yer outlook on life fella ..
in the movie, there was a reference to William Tweed...the precursor to modern day democrats, ancestor to Biden Crime family...and therie modern day supporetes ..present , past and futre.
eventually rose to head of Tammany hall..stroghold of democrat poltical corruption.
Today there is a park where part of the collect pond was. Shockingly it’s named Collect Pond Park. It was closed for a renovation a few years ago and they had to stop work on it when they found part of the foundation to the old Tombs jail. The park is opposite Manhattan Criminal Court which is connected to the Manhattan Detention Complex which is still nicknamed The Tombs
There’s nothing shocking about it. I think you’ll find many examples of history throughout every city in the world. Towns and cities evolve. As such, a land needs change. That doesn’t mean the name should change - especially back when it would have been difficult to alert mapmakers to the change.
...read Herbert Asbury's 1927 book of the same name...
Daniel Day Lewis can be quite terrifying! 😮 His performances in this film as well as "There Will Be Blood" gave me chills. I can barely look at him now
Whenever I need to to get in a certain frame of mind (more assertive, less polite / demur ladylike behavior) I always tell myself that I’m going to drink the other individual’s milkshake. This works particularly well for me as milkshakes are my favorite food. It allows something primitive to take over. Someone is in charge who is very controlled and determined. (Not really, but that would be crazy if true) 🤭
@@greywater3186 I love it 😆
Awesome actor❤
Someone hasnt seen ' the phantom thread'
@@kivalily Hmmm 🤔...no I have not. I'll check it out
Gangs of New York is an amazing movie, with what is, in my opinion, the best character to ever grace a movie screen...Bill the Butcher. Daniel Day-Lewis, as we all know, is one of the best actors of all time, and his portrayal of Bill the Butcher is astonishing. Knowing that he is the epitome of method acting, I can only imagine what each day on the set must have been like, calling him Bill and hoping he didn't cut something off.
He was also amazing in There Will Be Blood. Such an underrated movie. Both movies are among my favorites.
He's "method" but he's not insane or mean. There's even a clip of him laughing briefly at a joke, breaking character while filming There Will Be Blood. He's not Leto (but has much more talent IMO)
Agreed. This is my all time fave acting gig by DDL.
Brilliant to see the historical facts behind the film. 6:15 - I reckon "Roach" was most likely "Roche", an Irish surname of Norman origin.
Man as much as I hate violence and blood this movie is one of my favorites Mainly cause I’m obsessed with the time period it is portraying Thank you for This video!! Happy Friday
100% im feel the same thing and same way
Wow, it's so crazy how the powerful gangs still control the same area!
You better stay quiet about that, capishe?
So you don't have any friends..
It's awesome that you can be so self centered.
Oy vey.
Clearest example of an AI bot I've seen yet
I recommend reading "The Gangs of New York " book by Herbert Asbury written in 1927, of which the movie is based on
...Indeed that book during college (1967 - 1971) as the basis for a number of term papers...
I’d like to add that the book “Low Life”, by Luc Santé, also covers this section of NYC, especially from the outlaw/criminal population. And a fictionalized account of Teddy Roosevelt’s contemporaries in the area called “The Alienist”, has also been recently (in the past decade and a half- I’m old, okay?) adapted into a TV series.
@@tunguskalumberjack9987 ..I'm old too...73...
@@cbroz7492 older… and wiser, I see! I always see an ally in someone who still enjoys reading books. I’m not surprised that the book mentioned sparked several term papers- are there any written by you? I find that time and place in history to be fascinating-
I recommend reading 'The First Family', or America's First Family, (can't remember which) about the start of the mafia in America. Excellent read.
Thanks for showing the modern day streets of the original 5 points. I’ve been to that area 100 times but never could figure out the exact location.
You could’ve just googled it…
@@DreamFactories I did that’s how I found it wise ass
Fun fact: in the scene where Daniel Day Lewis taps his eye with his knife showing Leo the one he had cut out, he really did it. He wore a glass contact to protect his real eye. Imagine not blinking while tapping your eyeball with a knife! 😳
A few years ago, a maximum security prison was built in Seneca County in the Fingerlakes region of New York, near my home. I laughed my ass off when they named it Five Points! Wouldn't you think the New York State Corrections Department would have a clue what that meant?
What makes you think they didn't?
First seen this movie with my older brothers and I was like 12 or so. Grew up and rewatched it and it was even better
One of the few channels on KZhead that is always worth the commercials.
Absolutely captivating!! Thanks for this!
Thank-you as always 😊
Omg I'm so glad this was made I legit just rewatched that movie yesterday omg this is crazy I love this movie and loved the history buffs video on it 5 points sound like a really interesting location
There’s an intersection in Rockford Illinois that is called “Five Points “ it’s where five roads intersect. Charles Street, North and South Alpine Road, Broadway and Newburg Road s.
The Dead Rabbit on water st. is a pretty cool pub inspired by the movie.
One of my favorite movies. Thanks for doing this vid. Brings back good memories.
“Bad ganging”. Outstanding writing!🤣
"I wish America was like the good old days again where people respected each other and people were moral!" America back in the "good old days":
That is how life was in the 70’s 80’s and 90’s for the most in me experience. Much more mutual respect and less hate then.
@@mikepalmer2219 I dunno. I lived in Chicago in the late 80's, and it was pretty violent. I didn't even live in that bad of a neighborhood compared to most of the south side of Chicago, but in my neighborhood there were murders, beatings, purse snatchings, rock fights, gang wars, and I was violently attacked out of the blue a few times for no good reason (possibly because I'm white). I think New York was burning in the 1970s, because there was so much insurance fraud. If I remember correctly, there was a time when one building was burned per day, on average. The hatefulness was in some ways worse due to the stupid war on drugs, which encouraged a lot of hatred towards various groups and individuals, not to mention all the harmless hippies locked up in brutal prisons over smoking a joint.
The thing about "the good old days: I wasn't good and I wasn't old.
Thank you. This history buff needed this
A fascinating subject, as it's recent enough to be relatable and that occurred in a place we all know.
thank u so much love your channel❤❤
I love this movie, im so glad to see this on your channel💜
Thanks i learn something new every time I watch your docu's
One of my all time favorite movies, I watched it for the 4th time just a few days ago! Thank you for this valuable content!
I have seen it twice up in my top ten for sure.
I love history. Especially the weird history and there is a lot of it. Keep up the good work.
Always quality info!
My great-grandfather was killed in one of the Five Point Gang riots. He was killed by a gang of Irish that were supposedly part of the dead rabbits gang He was a Scottish house painter and was painting on a scaffolding where he was knocked off and killed. It caused my great grandmother and grandfather to hate the Irish. 😞
I'm sorry you gghf was killed ..but Scott's Hated The Irish back than already... Scott's were planters in Ireland throughout it's 800 year occupation..they also were the people in charge / torturing / enslaving of the Irish in all the Colonies...so not like needed the excuse....may I ask how did they know in the riot it was Irish that accidentally banged into scaffolding and not Italian. American etc ..why would he have been up on scaffolding if a riot going on ?
It's cool bro. The hatred was mutual 👊
The scotch run the whole of the United Kingdom as it was us who formed a & took over London by putting our king on the throne of England……
Iriah accidently knocked your great-grandaf off scaffolding and killed him... While the Scots planted in Ireland, violently stole their land and helped butcher and starve them along with the English planters.... If you hate Irish people for that one incident, imagine how we feel if we held your bitterness
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Great history and commentary cheers
This one of the better historical content channels on YT.
Thank you for this video! 🙂💐
5 Points was actually made famous by The Sting, being the place Doyle Lonnegan claims to be from.
Tell me more about the tunnels before the subways. Fascinating stuff
Thanks for this interesting subject.
In south east San Diego there’s something similar called the 4 corners of death.
Awesome video respect
A+ video! The process of how those events unfolded are fascinating. It seemed like the gangs were as fast in the process of disbanding as they were banding.
My favourite film of all time! I almost jumped when I saw this video title.
Bill the Butcher grew up in my small town of Sussex, NJ it's just cool to know that because now I live near the 5 points too lol!
Thank you for making this!!!---When I logged on, I was like "Fuck yesss" and immediately clicked it. We of the original people who saw "Gangs of New York" when it first came out, thought it was the coolest and most darkest movie since "Goodfellas." Daniel-Day Lewis definitely deserved an Oscar for his performance!!! A lot of people dont know this, but Daniel IS Irish and he played a racist New Yorker who absolutely hates the Irish with such a passion he would murder them in the streets. Absolute genius acting!!! I could watch that movie alll the time and never get tired of it:)
Well, kind of. Yes, his father was born in Ireland and was of Protestant Anglo Irish descent, but his mother was Jewish, and he was born in London.
“ We of the original people who saw GONY when it first came out “ 🤦♂️ my guy is talking like he’s part of a special group with high importance 😂 what a pleb
but he self identifies as Irish..
If your interested in other type of gangs there is American Me and Blood In Blood out.
So it smelled like Jersey? Terrifying.
NY'ers complaining about smell is the most hilarious hypocrisy ever displayed.
Right? The smell from NY subways always takes me a week to adjust too.
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Solid content.
There was a pond there? Wow
Literally obsessed with the movie. Daniel dayyyyyy. So glad you did this video.
I have seen this movie n I have to say, the director LITERALLY did his homework. Hey can you do a weird history of Marie Laveau? I would be OBLIGED if you do😊
Great video! Subscribed
watching this while sampling "Hell-Cat Maggie" Irish Whiskey. Recipe from the 5 points, but bottled in Ireland.
Used to own this film on DVD. Amazing film!
Groovy and fun. Well done, well done indeed.
Loved the movie and all the performances...!
Remember seeing the history of the gangs of New York on a DVD from the film. Man, that's something.
Warriors! Can you dig it?!? My beautiful dirty city to know you is to love you. 😘
Love all ur videos ❤
The picture shown at 3.05 was taken by Jacob Riis a part of a series called How the other half lives. around 1880.
Gangs Of New York is my all time favorite movie
Would love to see an examination/report on The Old Brewery
Just leaving a comment because you kick ass with these videos
If one didn't know the real historical facts about the 5 Points then the film would seem too surreal to be believed . Truth always being stranger than fiction. Scorese (reared on Elizabeth St. just above the 5 points ) based his film on the book "The Gangs of New York" by Herbert Asbury.
I found your documentary on New York quite interesting & informative, also enjoyed your sense of humour to lighten up the depressing events that took place during that period of time
I found the 'humor' annoying and distracting.
I've often recommended Gangs of New York to people who don't mind a little violence and I've had people tell me that it was a bit too violent for their liking. I didn't find it too violent and I saw it at the theater on the big screen. Thank you for fact checking the movie, it's good to know that Martin Scorsese didn't stray too far from the truth as far as the names of the gangs, their political stance and their violence against each other and outsiders. When I want complete historical accuracy I'll watch a documentary or read about that period but when I want to be entertained stretching the truth is allowed.
This movie had been on Scorcese's mind for decades before he actually did it. He said it would probably been a lot more violent had he directed it the 70s or 80s but by this time he was consciously trying to tone down the violence in his movies.
Great story. 😊 I'd love you to do something similar with the MOVIE Babylon depicting an interpretation of the switch from silent films to talkies.
The old brewery in the five points, was notorious for muggies and murders. When they torn down the building, they found corpses in between the walls and floorboards.
I'd like to see you cover the period of time that Blood Meridian was based on
PLEASE hit me up with that glanton gang
So tap dancing came from the meeting of two different cultures!! I love that!!
Uh, yeah.
@@kathleenferguson3296 what's your point?
I loved that movie. I could watch it over and over
And now that area is surrounded by a park and a bunch of courthouses. Pretty wild of you think about it
I work as a multimedia artist for a museum. I love your work. Where do you source your historical clip? Looking for some resources.
Mentioning Bill the Butcher and the rabbits made me think I need to to cook Lapin au Cidre (rabbit with cidersauce) thanks for the food inspiration! Now, please make a video about Emma Goldman!
I grew up on NYC’s lower east side and the five points was basically near Chinatown and just east of little Italy. I’m here to tell you the violence was real and you better learn how to navigate it- very proud I survived
Me when I see a "The Warriors" reference - "a man of culture I see."
Kelly's New Brighton Cafe, by the way, later became home to the late artist Jean-Michel Basquiat, and is home to a memorial plaque in his honor.
One my favorite movies with one of my favorite characters "The Butcher" Wild Bill
I just want to comment, keep doing what your doing and feeding me weird history.
thank you
How about the real atmosphere in and around the adult film industry during the late 1970s and early 80s depicted in Boogie Nights?
I'm born and raised new Yorker ...at 64 I will never return to that cesspool
Interesting coincidence in the timing of this upload, as I just finished reading Herbert Asbury's book which Scorsese used as a source of inspiration for his film. It was a great read.
You might want to check out Low Life by Lucy Sante as well.
That mustache goes hard.
I was in a band called the dead rabbitts. Rabbitts spelled with 2 T’s to mimic the singers last name but learning the history of the band name is pretty cool. I dig it
He must of been a Mets fan....damn that's cold!! Great Video as usual
Thnx.
"Legally flexible" good stuff!
One of my favorite films.
Great History.
This is one of the best movies I’ve ever seen
What about one on the Glasgow Billy Boys feared throughout Europe ,even worked in the States. Chicago. This gang is mentioned in Peaky Blinders
This is a good doc would definitely like to see how gangs were gangs in other major cities across the US
Lol i knew the warrior reff was coming 😅😂😂😂
Davy Crockett visited the Five Points and later wrote " Black and white, white and black, all hug-em-snug together, happy as lords and ladies, sitting round in a ring, with a jug of liquor between them, and I do think I saw more drunk folks, men and women, that day, than I ever saw before... I thought I would rather risk myself in an Indian fight than venture among these creatures after night. I said to [my friend]...these are worse than savages; they are too mean to swab hell's kitchen."
When I visited NYC I was surprised how bad it smelled
One of my Top 💯 Favorite Films of All Time! We're NEVER going to get a film like this one again!!!
I cant remember entirely, but in the Making of the movie mini-doc, they said The Dead Rabbits name came from something like "ded rabeed", an Irish nickname for a tough guy at the time.
Excelente investigación histórica...
Great movie!