Pokemon Scarlet and Violet added some deep new Pokemon Lore. Are Paradox Pokemon real? What makes them paradoxical? The Hidden Treasure of Area Zero DLC Teal Mask and Indigo Disk may answer some of that for us, but either way, what are the past Paradox Pokemon based on? Allow me to explain, and hopefully not get interrupted!
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00:00 What are Paradox Pokemon?
02:16 Brute Bonnet Origins
08:43 Scream Tail Origins
13:27 Sandy Shocks Origins
16:52 Flutter Mane Origins
22:21 Great Tusk Origins
24:10 Slither Wing Origins
28:28 Roaring Moon Origins
36:29 Walking Wake Origins
42:48 Moving Past the Past
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Lets answer these questions:
What is Brute Bonnet based on?
What is Scream Tail based on?
What is Sandy Shocks based on?
What is Flutter Mane based on?
What is Great Tusk based on?
What is Slither Wing based on?
What is Roaring Moon based on?
What is Walking Wake based on?
How do Paradox Pokemon exist?
What are Paradox Pokemon based on?
Gnoggin, hosted by its creator Lockstin, is a show delving into the mysteries of Pokemon! (and other games sometimes too). Explaining everything there is to explain! Why is each Pokemon given the type it has? What are their origins? What is the lore of the Pokemon world and the design inspirations? And what does it all have to do with alchemy? Let's Go find out!
Actually, the Paldea Pokédex sort of implies that Foongus and Amoongus didn't evolve to look like Pokéballs, but rather the creator of the Pokéball just really liked these Pokémon and made the Pokéball look like them for the shits and giggles
That would explain why they look like PokeBalls even in hisui
@@tanandalynch9441 But Foongus and Amoonguss aren't in PLA tho?
Yeah, I like the explanation that Geek Ecology came up with, which is that we're mistaken to think that humans created the basic PokeBall pattern when it shows up on so many Pokemon to begin with. More likely, the pattern first came about on Hisuian Voltorb and it's relatives, and other Pokemon with the design are actually mimicking that rather than a PokeBall. The PokeBall in turn is also supposed to be reminiscent of a Voltorb rather than the other way around.
@@formlessone8246that is true but isn’t the original voltorb a possessed pokeball or am I wrong?
@@shinyian82 that's just a theory but it's been debunked a few times
The commitment, the acting, the costumes. This is why I love Lockstin
Wdym, those were Rockstin and Lochrome, totally different from Lockstin
Reminds me of that one spongebob episode where Patchy's parrot brought a robot against his caveman and argued over who was superior🤣
Amen!
question: how did rockstin know about the modern forms if the past paradox mon are the ancestors
eg: he mentioned jigglypuff
The reason why Brute Bonnet has that pokeball pattern is that in Foongus' Scarlet entry, it says "There is a theory that the developer of the modern-day Poké Ball really liked Foongus, but this has not been confirmed." But they said it's just a theory so-
I was thinking he’d bring that up I was so confused when he didn’t, also 69 likes
There's were reasons why they were known as Paradox Pokèmon, because they were supposed not to existed because they were just speculations from the Professors' research but somewhat they exists during an incident.
But it’s just a theory. A game theory!
@@brettlarch8050Thanks for watching!
I know! I was like, "Where is he getting that confused ?" Lol
Here's something that might have influenced Walking wake. There are two kinds of Kirin, the Japanese version and the Chinese version. The Japanese version looks sort of like deer/horse thing that looks similar to regular Suicune. The Chinese version looks a lot more draconic, kinda like Walking wake's dinosaur design. It also explains it's dragon typing.
Partially, it usualy still is quadropedal l, but it is a dragon, scales and all
It's suicune 😂😂😂😂😂
Its crazy how many people didnt realize the existence of Paradox Pokemon was a Paradox. Its in the NAME
It's absurd how many people complained that walking wake makes no sense.
@@MouldMadeMindIt does kinda make sense. I've heard theories about it that actually makes Walking Wake fit the lore of the beasts.
@@Pill0w686Yep, it isn’t hard to explain its existence without saying “nah they’re just imagined.” The one I use the most is that Walking Wake could’ve existed in the past and is now extinct, and ho-oh could’ve based suicune on Walking Wake when reviving it. That or suicune is a direct descendant, it is implied that the beasts aren’t unique, and it is stated that ho-oh resurrected the beasts rather than transformed them (I think)
@@MrMoom08 absolutely love this revelation I am now privy too, and I think I have an idea of how the paradox are being made. The Pokémon are being caught, but it’s catching the Pokémon they are based on, and through a process similar to teraztilization, but with the wishes and dream and knowledge of the professors, are being made into the paradox Pokemon. Can also be an explanation of some of the version exclusives. Misdreavus is no where in scarlet, but flutter mane is. Tyranitar, none in violet, unless it’s iron thorns. Salamence, only found in violet, but roaring moon is abundant in scarlet. The exclusives (these ones for now) maybe have been caught by the machine in these variations of paldea, and thus their naturally occurring forms are gone (outside of Pokémon trainer trades) and thus only them as paradoxes exist! Edit: The books, that’s the answer. The scarlet/violet books were need for the machine to function. Violet/scarlet has Pokédex entries from the books for the respective paradox versions. But the opposite ones not found in the game? Tabloid magazines/ish. No professor in their right might would use magazines as actual Pokédex entries, but the opposite books don’t exist, so the magazine are that are there! Paradox Pokémon were made by the machine catching the Pokémon the paradoxes are based on, then knowledge from the books changes them into paradox Pokémon. Waking wake & iron leaves might be a different story but this can explain all main game paradox Pokémon!
IT'S A PARADOX! THERE _IS_ NO ANSWER! 🥔
Along with regional forms, paradox pokemon are one of the coolest gimmicks in modern pokemon. It feels like a fresh take on what fossil pokemon felt like back in gen one
More like what they could they have been.
I really like how it just encourages more creativity when coming up with fakemon designs as well
I like Mega evolution
I like both paradox forms and fossil Mon, rampardos, archeops and tyrantrum are some of my favorite Pokémon lol, but Great tusk, Flutter Mane and Scream tail are really cool, and some of the future forms are cool too, like iron valiant, and Iron moth are cool too,
@@wryytard I like the designs of most of them.
“Oh gosh, are prehistoric moths that big?” … *”No.”* The delivery of the no killed me
Big agree. I die every time.
The second rockstin and Lochrome popped in I lost it. This is amazing! I know it takes a lot of work to do the skits along with the scripting and everything but this is gold. I feel they may need a side series or make several appearances or maybe even just shorts materials for random things.
If you were to compare Brute Bonnet to any dino Pokemon, Rampardos and Bastiodon comes to mind. Rampardos for it's skull bashing head and Bastiodon for the shield arms.
It would be funny if they confirmed that connection
Scream Tail also has an actual tail. It's a bit hard to see but it exists
It's in the video clip used, too!
Loved the Paradox Lockstin Idea. I had silly ideas for Paradox names for those characters. Noisy Nerd (Rockstin) Iron Info (Lochrome)
noisy nerd xD
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I'm kinda surprised that there wasn't a Paradox form of Ampharos because I could see it be a Violet exclusive referencing the Sci Fi novel 'Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?'.
Mmmm techno lamb
@@lolface_9363 I wonder if there's a robot me
Iron Wool would be the most ideal name
Fun fact: one of Fungus' pokedex entries in gen 9 propose that *it* inspired the appearance of the pokeball, making Brute Bonnet being natural make somewhat more sense
Yeah, I'm convinced all of Scarlet's Paradox Pokemon could easily exist realistically as all of them predate the events of Hisui. I'm just baffled by Walking Wake.
@@peterrealar2.067perhaps Ho-Oh has made multiple batches of the Legendary Beasts over the years
bro literally called it fungus
@@schizopenguin Yeah, it's Foongus.
@@nightmarexgaming120Most likely, the legendary beasts are merely the most modern set of pokemon blessed by hooh
I really like how a lot of Paradox Pokemon take forms of middle form Pokémon. And althought they may not come back, I still hope something takes its place. Hopefully Gen 10 will give something like Nosepass a new form.
they cant come back unless terapagos is in gen 10. terapagos is the only one who can create them
Bizarrely the only middle form paradox mons are all past mons and the normal forms all evolve via stone
@@TriforceChadI saw a theory once that maybe some event caused evolutionary stones to exist that was after the reign of these past forms’ in their alternate dimension(?) so relatively to their existence before evolving (in the real life sense), “Jigglypuff”, “Magneton”, and “Misdreavus” are all fully evolved Pokémon.
All the future paradox Pokémon are fully evolved
@@byzantine5761alternatively it could be interpreted that the stone evolutions are sort of mutations. Compare Magneton vs Magnezone who changes drastically
Slither wings, wings resemble the back plates of a stegosaurus, with the dino tail actually highlighting that as they also had tail spikes which further sells the kaiju godzilla design. And Suicune also takes inspiration from the Kirin which can purify water like in the celebi or princesses mononoke movie, they are sometimes depicted as draconic beasts, hence the added dragon type and design emphasizing it dragon origin
I thought it looked more like a dimetrodon sail than stegosaurus plates
Godzilla does look like a cross between a therapod and a stegosaur. So having a moth past form look like one or both of them makes sense.
Something random I noticed is how Bruxa is spelt similarly to and sounds almost identical to "Bruja", which is Spanish for "witch". The fact that both Portugal and Spain are parts of the Iberian Peninsula might be the reason and I'm guessing they share roots.
Yup. Bruxa is basically "bruja", but in portuguese. Don't know where the vampire stuff comes from tho 😅
Bruxa in Portuguese literally means witch
@@duartexmania8285 Neat, thanks for the clarification
In early Modern Spanish, J was devoiced to merge with X (which at the time was still pronounced as in Portuguese).
I personally like to believe that scream tails appearance was modeled off of professor sada herself, with the same ponytail and eyeliner. It also helps that scream tail being the oldest mon ever fits especially well with the theme of sada's obsession with the past
I once saw a sad piece of fanart on tumblr of Arven looking at a Scream Tail. caption was "looks familiar, doesn't it?" or something along those lines.
It’s a mash of fairy and psychic type traits. The tail is totally a mix between mewtwo/mew/espeon’s tail, and it gets clefairy’s teeth and blush marks.
Hi, I'm once again here to explain German Pokémon names. This time it's about the Paradox Pokémon in Scarlet. I actually already explained all those names in a comment under another video, but it feels even more relevant here, and back then, Walking Wake and Iron Leaves didn't exist. Also, Lockstin mentioned Brute Bonnet's German name. But I'm getting to that one. But before I start explaining, one more thing: English Paradox Pokémon names are just two words put together and are very unique that way. And the same applies to the German versions, but, as you might know, in German you can just combine two words to make one. So, as an example, "Wutpilz" looks like a typical Pokémon name with several words mixed together or as a pun, but it's actually just the same as in English with two words combined, even though some German words a adjectives or verbs a a bit "adjusted" to better fit with the name. And yes, it sometimes these names sound a bit dumb but overall, I like them. It's definetly an interesting naming appraoch. But without further ado, let's start. So, first of all, there is Brute Bonnet and, as mentioned, it's named "Wutpilz" in German and, literally translated, it means "Rage Mushroom". (Wut = rage, Pilz = mushroom) Next up is Scream Tail. And in German we call it "Brüllschweif" and it's pretty close to the englisch Version and means something like "Roar Tail". (brüllen = to roar, Schweif = tail) Sandy Shocks is named "Sandfell" in German and it means "Sand Fur". (Sand = sand, Fell = fur) "Flatterhaar" is the German name for "Fluttermane" and, again, it's very close to the English name. and means something like "Flutter Hair". (flattern = to flutter, Haar = Hair) Next up, there is "Great Tusk" and we call it "Riesenzahn" in German. This means "Giant Tooth". ( riesig = giant, Zahn = tusk). There also is a German word für "Tusk", which is "Stoßzahn". This, once again transalted literally, would mean something like "thrust tooth". Also the letter 'ß' might look like a 'B', but is actually pronounced like an 's'. Then there is Slither Wing and again, it's German name is close to the English version. We call it "Kriechflügel" and it means "Crawling Wing(s)". (kriechen = to crawl, Flügel = wing(s)) The next Pokémon in our list is "Roaring Moon" and it has probably my favourite German Paradox Pokémon name. We call it "Donnersichel", which literally translated means "Thunder Crescent". (Donner = thunder, Sichel = crescent) This is something that i falsely translated the first time I talked about them in another comment. I named it "Thunder Scythe", but "scythe" rather translates to "Sense". Last bei not least, Walking Wake. It's German name is "Windewoge" which is the most weird one actually. But it basically means "Winding Wave". (winden = to wind, Woge = wave) Yeah, that was a lot this time. But anyways, I hope it was interesting and I thank you for reading. Until next time! ^^
Thank you for the translation, it’s always fun learning the wider name inspirations for pokemon, it helps to understand their origins more. I especially like “Donnersichel” and “Wutpilz”
I am really fascinated by the translations. I know Japanese, so that's where my attention went to. My biggest takeaway for the future mon is that the bit that is translated to Iron is "Tetsu", which also just generally can refer to armour.
We don't care
@@reggielacey2235who asked you if you care, he was just trying to give us info
@@cloudberry._jam well I don't care. It's pointless crap
31:39 I remember that the Pokemon anime had an episode where, at the end, a revived fossil Pokemon looked in awe at the sunset, and the characters commented something along the lines of "Wow, it's nice to think that despite how unfamiliar everything was to this Pokemon today, at least the sunset is a familiar scene!". This is from the international version of the dub. It makes me wonder if the Japanese version was actually more scientifically accurate, with the characters commenting that modern-day sunsets would be more beautiful than those of the ancient times, due to the pollution, and that being the reason why this Pokemon was so mesmerized by it.
So ancient times had pollution huh
My headcanon is that the future Paradox Pokémon were built as biomimetic robots to do jobs that were too dangerous for people or Pokémon to do. “Iron” is a brand/series name, hence why not all of them are Steel type.
I really like this theory. One problem, how in the hell would you copyright “iron” 😂
@@notyourbusiness8636 - You can’t, but you could trademark “Iron Series”.
@@notyourbusiness8636maybe it’s like the I in iPhone,I pad, iPod ect not copywriten but still representative of the brand
I always thought that Flutter Mane resembles an angel, especially the seraphim and cherubim, which might explain its fairy typing
What i also like with Scream Tail being the oldest known pokemon is how you can still see where it does comes from considering it's ancestor being Mew. The pink color, the long tail, the cat like fangs. I love it !
That is, if it is actually that old. I have a theory that the Paradox Pokémon are all fairly recently discovered because they didn't exist as we know them in the past, and the future they're said to come from is so far away they probably won't look like that either.
19:16 Okay, hear me out. With the recent Pokémon game’s basically breaking the fabric of reality, it’s completely possible for MissingNo. to appear as a villain in future games.
Cringe
@@Star-Bubbles123 How is it cringe?
I find this extremely unlikely but it would be really cool if it happened
@@mrgrump1003 don't mind them, they want attention
Little side note on the brute bonnet pokeball design, if you read the regular amungoose Pokédex it states that the designer of the pokeball might have based its design on the pokemon because it's their favorite.
Personally, I like Past Paradox names cause they sound unique than traditional ones and ties in to their imaginary origin.
And you can take all of their names and give the actual scientific names like Alatus Rex (Koraidon)
I kinda would like to know what their actual names would be, alongside the scientific ones. Someone suggested Roaring Moon as “Salmenace”, and I love that.
@@enlongjones2394 Salamence -> Salamenace. I think not dropping the "a" there might sound better.
I'm disappointment with the future Pokemon name's all just being "steel _____" maybe if you replaced them with number/ letter designations that look like the Pokemon name.
@@ianyoder2537I like them, because they all sound like different models from the same company.
I'm pretty sure the Paradox Pokemons' name are all the same meaning in all languages, so although "Walking Wake" could have other meanings, its Japanese name is "ウネルミナモ", which ウネル means stirring or rippling, and ミナモ means the water surface. In this case, Walking "Wake" clearly is referring to the disturbance on the water surface.
Seeing as Roaring Moon becomes Thunder Crescent in another language, no, the Paradox Pokémon's names do not have the same meaning across languages
@@alexandergotze3323idk, those two names sound like they have the same meaning to me
@@splatoonaleks5667 Brute Bonnet is Angry Mushroom in another language
@@alexandergotze3323 still sounds like the same thing to me, there's a mushroom out there called the common bonnet
Yeah, from what I've seen, Iron Valiant in other languages becomes Iron Warrior, Iron Hero, and Iron Paladin.
I love the fact that lockstin made new characters to explain the past and future and this part is funny heheh 28:06
Roaring moon also gives me Dracula/vampire vibes with its hanging cloak as well as its « blood moon » ties
The Paradox Pokémon are by far the coolest group of Pokémon to date. They look so familiar, but off at the same time.
Sweet, I was looking forward for this video. One of the things that I like about the paradox mons is how they are contextualized as being basically the cryptids of the pokemon world. The past paradoxs are based on how we saw undiscoverd species like they are some sort of strange monsters or still living dinosours and the future paradoxes are all based on aliens and strange experiments and tech. It makes them feel far more intreasting then just contextualizing them simply being normal pokemons but prehistoic/robot.
Brute Bonnet couldn't get its design from Pokeballs sent in the past. The professors only sent MASTER BALLS through the machine to guarantee catches and being able to retreive the Pokemon.
The ride Koraidon & Miraidon are in regular Poké Balls.
I always had the head canon that the future pokemon were man made after pokemon went extinct and they were recreated off of loose records (hence why iron valiant is a mix of the two ralts evos, they thought they were the same pokemon)
There is a Foongus or Amoongus dex entry that stated the creator of the modern pokeball was a fan of mushroom mons. And decided to base his design on the creatures. So the pokeball patterns on Brute Bonnet could be a natural part. And the pokeballs were made later.
It could if it is time travel be a paridox in itself the pokemon copying the pokeball then later the guy baceing the pokeball on the pokemon
The pokedex entry states that its just a theory
@@Cherrytangelayeah a *theory* so it could equally be right or wrong
In legends arceus, I’m pretty sure there is an entry about how people liked the pattern on foongus and based the pokeball off it, so thats why they have similar patterns
That entry's in Scarlet or Violet. Foongus isn't available in Legends: Arceus.
12:17 A banshee was the first thing I thought of when I first found about scream tail. So it's nice to see it could be based off of one.
The two paradoxes are pure genius, and the commitment really sells it
Him calling brute bonnet “ungaboongus” had me dying
M&Jtv's Thairwoosa fits more
Seems like so many poketubers are afraid to get deep into the lore, but that’s what sets this channel apart. This series is one of my favorite on the platform ❤
Well Lockstin is more of an analysis Pokémon channel. There are others like Bird Keeper Toby and Hoops but it's an niche category. I wouldn't say their scared, but it is time consuming. Most Poketubers stick to the gameplay. Like you said, that's what sets Lockstin apart.
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On fluttermane, I figured Manananggal would been brought up, a mythic creature from the phillipines that is the head and torso of a woman with huge wings Its very fitting, i figure lockstin just hadn't known about it, wanted to acknowledge it :]
I saw Flutter Mane also referencing the decapitated Medusa head that Perseus used. It has snakelike eyes, the one mane thing looks kinda scaly, an ancient Greek tale would make sense here, and the fact that Athena has the Medusa head on her shield to ward evil may explain the Fairy typing.
Fun Fact! Time travel in Chinese media is heavily regulated, so the paradox pokemon came from "imagination" in the Chinese version of the games.
Huh. Wonder why its heavily regulated in China. I mean i know time travel can be a confusing and annoying tool for a story but pokemon handled it well by mixing it with the wish granting abilities of the time machine, making it less of a true time travel and just giving the professors what hey thought they wanted, if im understanding the story well enough.
@sketch-eee4165 From what I could find, the Chinese government has an issue with misrepresenting or altering historic events in games and movies.
@@sirstar1528 I see.
@@sirstar1528 I can understand the caution
@@sirstar1528this feels very....ironic of them to care about considering they have fully wiped certain events and historically significant things from even being googled
I think something interesting about Walking Wake is that it isn't categorized as legendary in the game's code. Maybe the lack of magic to purify water is due to it not being blessed by Ho-Oh like the modern Suicune is and thus not legendary.
Interesting, I would still see it as a legendary since it's based on one and it's a rarity.
probably just an oversight
@@mandalorianhunter1 Yeah, similarly to how Koraidon and Miraidon shouldn't necessarily be considered legendary either since they're just ancestors/descendants of Cyclizar, but in today's times are considered legendary due to the combination of their incredible strength plus they came from another time period. They're basically isekai protagonists when you think about it. lmao
@@Bladehound83 yeah I said that to someone else to, hell Mewtwo shouldn't even be considered all legendary either
42:39 I can't believe almost everybody forgot that the fusion drawings are artist's interpretations of what a Paradox Pokémon COULD look like.
I don't really get caveman from scream tail, I get vampire bat. the golden eyes, the teeth, the screeching like bats..
Somehow, Roaring Moon's wing position also reminds me of Lunala, especially Shiny Lunala.
He did say that it was inspired by sun and moon myths.
Another thing to consider about Brute Bonnet’s Poké Ball patterns is Foongus’ Scarlet entry which says: “There is a theory that the developer of the modern day Poké Ball really liked Foongus, but that has not been confirmed” so it is possible that Brute Bonnet’s patterns were natural
Next video: Can paradox Pokémon evolve like their present day counterparts?
In their own time yes probably
I love Lokrome and Rockstin. Persoanlly, I'm hopeful that the DLC gives us the remaining members of each trio and we can then combine them (or face a combined version of them).
Paradox Pokémon are probably one of the most coolest additions they’ve added into Pokémon alongside Mega Evolution and Regional Variants. And while it’s likely it will only appear in Scarlet and Violet, I can’t wait for the DLC to see what new Paradox Pokémon they could add like paradox versions of Gligar, Aipom, Mareep and possibly some Pokémon introduced in Gen 9 like the starters
You truly are everywhere. Also, Agreed.
Thats the lamest part. Why waste time and emotions on something that you know is gonna get dexitted to sell another gimmick. Fan favorite pokemon are favorites for a reason: they have grown alongside trainers old and young, and people know they'll be appearing in media alot. Megas, alongside regional variants, should have been series staples going forward. Every pokemon should have eventually had a mega or variant.
@@royalgelly8948 i'm glad megas are gone, and not a staple--god, every pokemon getting something so ugly and overdesigned? eww
@@TheLuckOfTheClaws troll statement. no comment.
@@royalgelly8948 I’m not a troll, I genuinely loathe megas designs. There’s no consideration for the theme, it’s like they just tossed on spikes and superfluous detail half the time
I appreciate the subtle Aggretsuko Scream Tail in the thumbnail lolz Had plans to draw that later
I think it is worth noting that when Slither Wing is on all-fours with its wings folded, its silhouette is reminiscent of a Pelycosaur (e.g. the famous Dimetrodon), which may explain the reptilian tail. The sail of Pelycosaurs is commonly interpreted to being used to absorb heat from the sun, which would neatly fit with the Volcarona line's pre-existing ties to the sun. Perhaps Slither Wing needs to absorb heat to operate since it isn't fire type yet, so cannot make its own?
Foongus or Amoongus, in one of their pokedex entries, said that the original creator of pokeballs liked one of the two pokemon. So the mushrooms may have come first. Also Oongaboongus is a spectacular name for Brute Bonnet
Suicune one actually fits In our real world there were a lot of mammals who appeared more reptilian like back then because it was suited for survival and overtime they evolved to no longer need it Raikou entei suicune in their original forms all shared a common ancestor and when ho-oh revived them it tapped into their Primal Dormant DNA and reawakened the aspects that ho-oh figured would suit them best in their current state
That is kinda cool
this makes sense. all mammals are decended from synapsids with one of the earliest forms being dimetrodon, which is theorized to have looked very reptilian.
Actually I like this idea when ho-oh revived them we got the ones we're familiar with not because that's what they look like but because ho-oh used its magic and the power of these ancient elemental beasts to revive the 3 eevees to give us the 3 elemental dogs were familiar with.
@@captianbaconexactly you know how X-Men have a latent X-Gene that gets triggered Ho-oh basically triggered their “X-Gene”
@@bigjalapeno7061ty
I had this idea for Paradox Ultra Beasts. One for the past would be Voltaic Vines, a paradox of Xurkitree that like the name suggests, is made of vines rather than wire. Also it’d be Grass/Electric The future paradox would be Iron Disposal, being a paradox Guzzlord that’s Fire/Dragon. Lore wise, it’d be a walking incinerator that deals with trash.
One problem: ultra beasts never existed on earth in the past. #AlternateUniverse
I do love ultra beasts, though
@@GeekyFloydIf Lockstin's theory to their existence is true then that doesn't matter
Congrats, you created part electric Tangrowth
@@GeekyFloydParadox Pokémon are paradoxical, hence the name, so that doesn’t really matter
Loved the two that joined you today! Excellent deep dive into the lore. I’m really hoping you’re able to pull some more info out of the Violet ‘mons than ‘Pokemon but metal’ cause that’s about all I’m getting
While I’m not 100% positive of how true this is, I’ve heard that all the future paradox Pokémon are based on different sci-fi tropes and media.
The production of your videos and the content itself is just so well researched and well prepared.
Paradox! Pulled up by its bootstraps!
Nice. Bootstrap paradox.
Bootstrap's bootstraps?
@@DragonLordNight you. You win the internet.
Honestly i originally thought they were “paradox” Pokemon because they time traveled forward/backward to our time and in the same existence as their descendants/ancestors respectively. Which is funny because some of the paradox Pokemon are based on version exclusives in the opposite version
I love the entire video, and am anxious to see the Paradox Pokemon of the future. But mostly, I just love the theme that starts at 39:02, so clean. I could listen to it ad nauseum.
Another amazing and so packed with info 'n' trivia video! ....can we appreciate past and future Lockstin versions? That's why his vids are so full of life and charm!
What I would like to add is that the diplocaulus being extinct is not the main reason for dragapult being ghost type, the real reason is more than likely to be because dragapult is VERY visually inspired by the b-2 stealth bomber used by the United States air force(USAF), amd what is USAF's official nickname for the b-2... The b-2 Spirit.
sandy shocks is my favourite gen 9 pokemon he's so weird and unique I love him so much :)
Tried him with Zap Cannon and Blunder Policy. Either way you'll be faster, but if Zap Cannon connects, well you might just KO a mon or two.
@@lizerdspherexAnd if you really want your zap cannons to connect, you have the option to run gravity as well. It has a lot of variety but too bad its movepool is lacking coverage.
@@Pill0w686 Oh yeah, the Gravity/ Hypnosis set. I should try that sometime.
Same tbh
Ah so good to hear Lockstin also picked up on the wish fulfillment subtext and mentioned it. I agree that it probably isn't actual past/future but perceived past/future.
Bruxa (pronounced Bru-sha in portuguese, the way Lockstin said it is Spanish) just means witch. Which for the Misdreavus line is incredibly fitting!
So are we ever gonna get gen 8 and gen 9 trainer classes or were there too few introduced to make a video about it?
there are at least enough for one video covering both gens
@@scrunkore Really of newly introduced trainer classes?
In the italian localization (the version I played), some paradox pokemons' names are really cool, my favorite being Brute Bonnet, in italian Fungofurioso (literally "enraged mushroom")
same for the german "Wutpilz"
@@BluePhoenix_ I adore Wutpliz as a name
Having past and future versions of you show up was the funniest and most unexpected thing I've seen from your channel! 🤣🤣👍
The music is so damn good and fitting! It never overshadows what you're saying and just accompanies, you've gotta give me your playlist!
One of the theories on brute bonnet I really liked is that that’s just how they looked naturally, and that the folks who modeled pokeballs modeled them after BB
It is in Amoonguss' Paldean pokedex entry that its believed that the person who created Pokeballs fahsioned them after Foongus and Amoonguss so they came first.
Another Take for Walking Wake is that it could be a prehistoric Convergent form of Suicune, Two pokemon with similar abilities/physiology that have vastly different lifestyles. Suicune getting it's abilities after being mystically revived from Ho-oh and using them altruistically, whereas Walking wake evolved to run across water and boil it to hunt down potential prey.
Or it could just be that Walking Wake is the ancestor to the Pokemon that became Entei, Suicune and Raikou
Or it could just be, y'know, made up
@@theknightwithabadpictotall7639Or they could be actual Pokémon. Just google the actual definition of a paradox and you'll see what I mean.
@@bigjalapeno7061 I don't think so, since Entei, Suicune, and Raikou were all seperate pokemon before being revived into the Legendary beasts.
@@ultimatedragon356 I thought they were all the same before they were transformed
Will there be a TerminalMontage Battle Royale Collab with the Paradox Pokémon? 'Cause that'd be really cool.
This video is phenomenal and must have taken so much dedication and effort! Thank you Lockstin you've outdone yourself once again!! 🥰
what I haven't seen many people talk about Roaring moon's design is that its design has the front legs longer than the back legs, not like mega-salanence which has the front legs smaller than the back legs
In canon the magazines are referred to as shady and dubious
One odd thing about Roaring Moon specifically is it's basis on a Mega Evolution, which implies some kind of connection to the Mega Rayquaza event in ORAS, even though that event would have happened millions of years in the future. This also oddly enough links Paldea to the Mega Evolution timeline alongside LGP&E, ORAS, and any other game that includes Mega Evolution (I'm terrible at remembering all of them since they were after I stopped playing for a while) which some fans believe is an alternate timeline from SwSh.
Man, I love your dedication in all your videos, and this one really takes the cake.
Wutpilz literally means angry mushroom. As a german speaker i find that name incredibly lustig
There's a new dex entry for Foongus in Scarlet. "There is a theory that the developer of the modern-day Poké Ball really liked Foongus, but this has not been confirmed." Which implies that the appearance for Foongus, and by extension Amoonguss came before the Pokeball. Which would naturally apply to Brute Bonnet, as well. If Brute Bonnet is from the past, that'd pretty much confirm it.
Respect for Lochrome for not spoiling the entire DLC, that video was fun also shiny rayquaza at the end-
Great video as always. Nicely done, the deep research is clear
The future forms are cyborgs not robots similar to armored mewtwo but the enhancements became permanent part of their physiology cuz if they were robots they’d all be pure electric and/or steel oe dual typed but they don’t they all retain at least one of their original types meaning that it’s lineage/biology is still part of it deep down either they did it to themselves or humans did it as a way to either act inhumanely or as a way to preserve them I think they all just overtime just became cyborgs down the line without going extinct maybe endangered or a way to keep them from being endangered Or just a way to advance evolution in a selfish way The reason the lore calls them robots is because they don’t know much about them so all the modern day people are doing is assuming For sandy shocks my guess is that it used to look like a regular Pokémon but adapted to being exposed to some sort of ancient form of metal Sort of like Pokémon’s version of vibranium and then overtime became sandy shocks and then the magnemite line The metal could have come from space explaining why magnezone resembles a UFO They weren’t named by the people of the future and past they were named by the people of present day who don’t know anything about them and just came up with something to describe them It’s no different than how we name newly discovered fossils
It's so nice to scroll through the comments section and see how much love the scarlet paradoxes have from fans. They're all really cool and a great new spin, better than the convergent evolutions in my opinion. But I dread seeing the comments for the violet version, as while I do like the robotic aesthetic they were going for I think not everyone shares that appreciation...
As a Violet player I feel like I got almost every short straw paradox pokemon wise. They don’t feel nearly as interesting as the Scarlet equivalents and I feel like the exclusivity of such a huge swath of the game’s roster is a legitimate reason to feel put out tbh. I get that a lot of people express that disappointment badly, but still.
I went to the store with the intention of buying Violet. But when I got there, there were none. There were plenty of Scarlet though. So I said Fk it and went with it. Lager I found out, Scarlet has better exclusives, and it's theme is the ancient past, which resonate with me more being a student of history.
Your video scripting, editing, everything is just phenomenal 👏🏻👏🏻
Can we appreciate how Lockstin really educates beyond Pokémon, as a Filipino, I had no idea about the phoenix and serpent dragon folklore. :0 and I have lockstin to thank for that.
Lockstin's production quality is always top tier! Thank you 🙏
I'm surprised you didn't mention Scream Tail's hair-tail being similar to Mega Mewtwo Y's hair-tail.
This is hilarious and creative, I love your work Lockstin and I hope you can explain another Pokemon battle royal and never stop using your gnoggin!
This might be my favorite video you've ever made; 'there's beauty in death' and 'no uppie-toe, not raptor' are my favorite parts. I eagerly await the Violet Paradoxes video!!! :D
Something I think is interesting about Brute Bonnet specifically is that the shade of red it uses is much closer to the actual shade of red on a Pokéball. Amoonguss feels like it got the color close enough to be effective, but Brute Bonnet feels like someone imagining a Pokéball pattern on a mushroom, down to the color
Brute Bonnet can easily be explained. Amoonguss did not evolve to mimic poke balls, we made poke balls look like amoonguss
that was an EXCELLEMT video lockstin lol I loved the concept of bring over your past and future selves to the present very nice
hey Lockstin, you probably won't see this, but another thing to note about sandy shocks is that the spikey pencil shavings could also be magnetic fluid (if you have seen any of those "I made venom in real life" videos you will know what I am on about here) since that is magnetic and it gets spikey when near metal
Slither wing is like an official version of in between evolutions
Tho ofc, the size makes that somewhat questionable. When standing up it's taller than a grade schooler. When on all fours, the wings make it taller than an adult. OH YEA... *THIS MOTH IS VENOMOUS!!!*
@@TheHammerGuy94I meant in appearance not size lol
I always liked the Paradox Pokemon. The Scarlet versions were so unique, and honestly, it was a very interesting bit like regional forms.
Excellent video! I loved how lockstin and lochrome came in for the video!
You put a SHOCKING amount of work into this video. Was very entertaining. 10/10 would watch again.
There are mushrooms called bonnets, so... Also, that *raises* the question. "Begging the question" is when you assume your conclusion within your argument. Not when an explanation leads to further questions.
For me, I thought Sandy Shocks was past paradox because in the line’s Pokédex entries it hinted at it being an alien; so then it crashed millions of years ago and became Sandy Shocks.
10:18 Mega Mewtwo Y, charging a Shadow Ball: It's funny is it? Want to repeat that?
You mentioned Battra for Slither Wing. I would also recommend looking at Battra's larval form specifically, as it bears an ever closer resemblance to Slither Wing, at least when it's crawling.