Rating the CS:GO MAJOR WINNER rosters with S1mple, Niko, Fallen, Mantuu, Tabsen & Kyojin
We are very close to finding another CS:GO major winner at the #PGLMajor but what is the all time best major winning rosters of all time? We sat down with Fallen from Team Liquid, Niko from G2 Esports, S1mple from NAVI, Mantuu from OG Esports, Tabsen from BIG & Kyojin from Team Vitality
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Niko just completely skipped c9. He’s still traumatized.
NIKO'S TILTED
he put it in d at the end
@@crize11 didn't even mention their name lmao
Screw the clown9, that major belonged to FaZe
@@kronniichiwa9909 and yet they lost to the "clowns" with niko throwing in the final kekw
Niko avoided talking about c9 LOL
*PTSD*
😭😭😭
Traumatized you can't blame him
@@pakistaniman1112 that's true
he is in semi final ...and he don't want to tilt by think or giving opinion about boston major
FalleN looks like is the only who really watched the old Majors
Yeah his is the only one that looks realistic, if you factor in “eras” his actually accounts for effectively each major era we have had and then ranks the rest essentially more or less where you would expect.
he didnt wactch, he were playing all major cause of this he can remember all the major xd
@@pointblankIsmeti actually no lmao the first major Fallen and Brasil at all played is the one they won. MLG Columbus 2016
@@TeteuCrafter you probably don't know anything about csgo. fallen played with the keyd stars team in esl one katowice 2015.
@@yeahgns8955 yeah, i really was wrong in there, the first major Fallen has played was 2015 but he still didn't played all the majors like that guy said.
Niko might also have to skip Navi 2021 in the future. The flashbacks are real.
Hahagahaha
NaVi is overrated
@@seife41 How?
@@seife41 true, such an overrated team, only won all the maps they played on the recent major
@@seife41 you're not wrong tho, Na'Vi was smurfing in Stockholm. And Electronic couldn't even hide his aimbot, what a noob
Fallen best tier list. True Historian.
Yea he really did have the best list
Same
its because he's the only player here old enough to have played during 2013
@@probablyapotato8956 True.
putting himself in the 1st place - yeaah, very objectively
Mantuu really messed up with LG and SK rosters. He didn't realize they were the same team and the moment he mencionet with coldzera's parents when talking about SK happened while they where LG instead
7 tiers are way too much btw
S, A, B and C would be enough imo
I liked seeing people rate things as D, E, and F
Astralis 2018 innovated CSGO, that time CSGO is not just about flicks, 1 taps, individual skills anymore but development of team play
Astralis 2018 was a truly revolutionary team. Glad I was able to witness them do what they did
@@zeinmets3550 sad that the roaster is gone forever
@@lategamer Sad to see the awper leave to please a piece of plastic.
@Aoi Shi Device left first, thus breaking the greatest line up of all time and was untouched in the Major playoffs. Furthermore denying us the fans the chance to see them go toe to toe with NaVi in the Major playoffs. As for the Vitality move it doesn't make sense to replace XQTZZZ / Shox (I could be wrong). Did you like your own comment btw?
@Aoi Shi it has not been confirmed yet?
Fallen is the only reasonable player in this video
I don't think Tabsen understood what this was about. He was basically rating the major instead of the roster.
haha yea our boy johannes a little confused
Yeah look at the tittle of video, so he isnt wrong with that
"damn germans" - Sasha xDD
Mantuu did the same thing lol
@Square one Levi I think he was saying LG but it sounded like OG
Tabsen literally saying whatever comes to his mind lmaooo.
Nobody mentions that most of them didnt even remember LG 2016??? It was MLG Columbus and it was one of the best majors of all time, with famous coldzera play and the comeback against liquid. And finally to win Navi at the final who were pretty strong at the time with Zeus. I think it was their 2nd final in a major
I think most people just associate that with SK now.
Mantu said coldzera was in sk when he hit those no scopes against liquid🤣🤣🤣
@@florentinnita2513 Like mantu even knew about cs at that time hahhaah
Tbh they only won cause of colds luck and skill. Theyshouldnt have even won. I would rate that roster pretty low
@@berosar yes, the low roster who won 2 majors consecutive.
Fallen being super wholesome putting everyone high
But in his mind they're all F. He's the twoface afeter all
@@hero3bash wtf? lol
@@hero3bash whaaaat? LOOL Absolutely lunatic, srry.
@@hero3bash for badfallen, there is only one team S tier himself
because for be a major winner you cant be C or D level
Only if s1mple knew he would have been on this list
Ahahaha ikr
And it will be S+ tier
would have been?
@@ilant my English is bad)
HAHAHAAHHAAHHA
Gambit 2017 i put on S , not because i am a fan or smthg, its because zeus was kicked out of navi and it turned into a cinderella story where they came from zero to hero by slapping everything
Yeah, that was such a miracle run it is insane. Zeus said he ain't going home without a major, and the mad lad did it. The major itself their run was also incredible, the Dosia nade was a cherry on top.
And don't forget the iconic wager between Zeus and Olof ('Olofmeister, I love you!') ;)
@@oanhienlong7264 its sad to see that people forgot about immortals same miracle run in the same turnament when they were worse than gambit and maybe the worst team in the major but its overseen because of gambit actually winning it. If immortals won i think people would never even think about gambit like its now with immortals. (im not fan of immortals or gambit, nor im brazilian or russian)
@@gregrockv immortals called KNG to the major, they literally had almost 0 time to play together and developed the two awp setup meta , they changed the game economy because of this. Immortals was better than Gambit but they choked in cobble lul
Imagine your First Championship with your team is a major and you didnt even practice with your team yet, getting 2nd was a Win
S1mple was rating them on the basis of, how hard was it to play against them.
I realize that hahahahahaha
He didn't play against older teams that's why he rated them low
2015 Fnatic was so scary back then like navi is now. Idk why he rated it so low
@@st0m397 so were virtus pro
@@st0m397 cause simple are simple back then when he is not in navi
Mantuu's ranking depends so much on his memory 😂
Mantuus ranking is abysmal
Don't remember : C tier Remember : S tier
and puts SK in B based on LG (it was still LG at the time), and then not remember who played on that team, so its F xd
England brain
@@Jordanpurpl333 no need to be so harsh like that.
I like the Fallen one, 3 era team on S tire.
Simple is still bitter of loosing 2 Majors for the Brazilians roster, that's why he put SK in C
sad but true, everyone know that. He likes or not, Sk Gaming 2016 deserve AT LEAST "A" rank, as others put in their tier list!
Tier D, E or F for a Major Champion is lack of respect.
It's evident among them that Fallen is the most humble, even being the one with more achieviments
He can’t be that humble if he put his own team in S tier haha. Still the most accurate of the rest imo though.
@@antonycloke6498 They dominated almost every tournament during 2 years before the team started to decline
@@antonycloke6498 hes not wrong he put in S tier the 3 teams that won back to back majors
@@antonycloke6498 2 years winning almost everything
@@antonycloke6498 You probably didin't watch his teams playing in that time
Nice to see Kyojin being called for these things, too.
He played like dog-water in the quarterfinals
@@terminal_wayward5755 you would piss your pants on stage and get 1 kill per map
Say whatever you want.. He's going to get replaced soon.. Apex will make sure about that...
@@priyank2125 you must be salty that he has a chance to play tier 1 while you play tier 1 faciet level 1 pugs
Dude why are you comparing us to him.. Csgo is my hobby not my profession fucker.. And again say whatever you want he is getting replaced soon.. I can bet you it will happen by the end of this year.
Fallen definitely loves the game and has for years. SK/LG and Fnatic were definitely top dogs at the time, he is right in saying that nobody was even close to them, it's true.
nobody was even close? i mean i only started watching cs in 2017...but from what ive heard astralis has to be the best ever teama. they won 4 majors in very dominant fashion...changed the game. nobody in their peak came close to them!
@@jonathanbelfort5650In their time fallen said bro
damn bruh. niko doesn't appear from 4:11 to 8:09. maybe he got sad after realizing he had to rank C9
You can see it if you compare the two points in the video, he goes from paying attention in an upright position to leaning on his hand all depressed (physically not mentally, maybe mentally idk that’s a hard loss to take)
@Square one Levi this did not age well....sadge
@@ATJ253 yeah i mean i would be mega pissed to
Fallen has the only valid list, honestly, he truly knows the history of this game
It's pretty funny seeing 4 of these guys rating gambit over fnatic 2015, guess they didn't understand what they were rating.
overvalued sk
@@smeipalmu5970 no.
@@rinoceronteocidental7695 you realise sk 2016 roster is diff from 2017? 2017 was the year sk really shined
astralis 2018 was the best team in history, anyone who puts it below S tier are just bugging
facts
Ye
As said by Sadokist, "The best all f***ing time!"
You know, you answered the question better than the players did in the video. They seemed to be ranking the majors themselves, rather than the rosters like the video title says. So yea, I agree to an extent that that roster is possibly the greatest, but I don’t think the players in the video understood or followed the rules
@@ATJ253 that roster is the greatest, not much discussion to be had about that. But i agree, doesn't seem like they understood the purpose of the question
Man i love s1mple only player to ever mention that ldlc didn’t “deserve” the major
What happen back then?
@@corn735 fnatic illegal boost on overpass, fnatic had to either replay the match vs ldlc or forfeit, they chose to forfeit and ldlc went on to win the major
@@Fireized thanks
@@Fireized LDLC vs fnatic was the semifinal... They won the BO and game before the boost and won final vs NIP
@@corn735 they led 13-3 against fnatic. Then Olofboost happened and they lost 13-16. Replay was offered, but fnatic refused.
fallen's tier list is the only valid one
Finally, s1mple can participate in this, knowing - he's the legend
This was before I think, but he will always be a legend major or no major
he will get another major next year, navi is too strong at the moment
Fallen, Niko and S1mple did decent tier lists
Niko?No…Gambit 2017 F 🤦♂️
niko gambit F and C9 D not even close to decent
Fallen's tier list has to be the most correct one
Agree 100% with fallen only one with proper knowledge not putting fnatic 2015 on s tier is a crime 2nd best team ever after astralis and sk is 3rd with 2013 nip 4th
it's so sad to see what fnatic is now
sk 2016 way overrated
fnatic so overrated
Kyojin though hahahahahaha hes just there to participate respect!
Niko is still salty about going 0:3 in PGL Krakow
Well now i know why analysts argues with players. This has to be the worsts lists of all time. Apart from Fallen who nailed. That fnatic team was insane and could easily won more but their ego got too big.
What happened with fnatic?
Lol
@@ipizza9941 too much internal fights. Plus their in game dedication droped a lot.
The disrespect Fnatic 2015 and Astralis 2018 got is insane to me, both have to be S tier. NIP 2014 is A, but if we were talking NIP 2013 S+ they basically revolutionized the game so it became modern and still to this day some aspects of 2013 NIP are still shown to this day (coming from an Fnatic fan)
I just don't think the level of competition back in those days justifies putting NIP higher than a C. Fnatic maybe a different case because that's right when CSGO was really beginning to become popular and orgs were entering the scene.
@@TTVShm0l Fnatic and Astralis are literally the most dominant teams in CS GO history and these players are sleeping on them. During the Fnatic and Astralis' era the players in the videos didn't even come close to their level, I think they should show some respect.
@@lulu-gt6kl fnatic was the most dominate team for the first 3 years of the game being out. It's just not the same
@@TTVShm0l I think your point is valid when it comes to NiPs era (Even though that was impressive as well) but CS:GO in 2013-2016 was very much alive and competitive. Most players who are at the top today was playing there and then as well and Fnatic dominated them.
@@lulu-gt6kl I agree, I don't think there's much point in comparing teams back then to teams today as the game is completely different.
Almost all of these guys disrespected 2015 fnatic. They had so much competition and still were dominant. VP, NiP, Envy, Danish team whatever they were named at the time, NaVi and more.
My favorite roster ever is Olof, Krimz, JW, Flusha and pronax.
Mine's Fallen, Coldzera, Fer, Taco and Fnx. For those who know the story of what they did to get the funds to participate in the major, it makes any Brazilian get emocional
Feels like they’re ranking different things
Kyojin and Fallen the nice guys not putting anyone under C. 😁
Kyojins program at the interview - ${major.team} - RNG(S,F)
Fallen and Niko lists make the most sense.
Agree
agree.
fallen's list is just way better than everyone elses. personally I'd adjust to S - astralis 2018, fnatic 2015, SK/LG 2016 - Double majors for all in the same year, insane teams with best eras A - VP 2014, NiP 2014, C9 2018 - the most magical major wins B - Envy 2015, astralis 2017 - strong teams but fnatic had fallen off at the end of 2015 and astralis also took it when everyone was struggling and VP should have had it with that big lead C - Gambit 2017, LDLC 2014 D - fnatic 2013
NaVi's 2021 major will probably be remembered as A tier or possibly S for some since they went undefeated.
Mantuu just being nice to everybody
Astralis 2018 was absolute fire, also nip and fanatic back in the days, they had no cmpetition at the time absolute S tier
astralis with magisk s tier anytime of the day, 3 back to back majors.
The Astralis with magisk is still imo the GOAT team. Absolute irrefutable dominance.
Such an entertaining video this one 2:28 NiKo skipping Cloud9 (2018) and leaving it for the end 5:22 mantuu showing his British upbringing (caught me by surprise)
I feel like Mantuu didn't understand the ranking criteria. He keeps mentioning the quality of the final and how memorable it was, but that's not the point. Sure, the Boston final was probably the best Major final we've ever had, but you have to be on some pretty strong bath salts to suggest that particular Cloud 9 roster (or any Cloud 9 roster for that matter) was stronger than the likes of Astralis 2018, Fnatic 2015 and SK 2016. Cloud 9 were arguably not even the best team at that tournament!
It feels like Mantuu misunderstood the script and rating final games and not actual rosters.
Niko is so negative, lmao. Didnt even talk about Cloud 9
Ya it must hurt XD. But arguably his complete list is the most logical in the whole series
Ofcourse dude no one in his place would wanna talk about the upset
Yh lol i was waiting for his reaction
lmao cuz he shouldve won that major
he is in semi final ...and he don't want to tilt by think or giving opinion about boston major
Lots of differing lists but almost everyone agreed that astralis 2018 was incredible
would love to see astralis 2018 vs navi bo5... probably astralis would won(I give 60%) if they had time to prepare. But at least we gonna seen how Gambit gonna overrun navi in near future(2-3years imo). sadly cs go doesnt play all star games as well (they had all stars vs asian players if im not mistaken and get right world team vs somebody)
How are people giving astralis with magisk less than S? Commentators would be congratulating teams for hitting 10 rounds on a map, they would lose their mind in shock if it even went to 3 maps because of how rare it was.
rare? Astralis were 18-0 in previous 3 major playoffs
Fallens list is solid
LG and SK in 2016 were the exact same squad, just zews the coach left, they should be the same tier, or maybe SK one above, because they improved a bit in the second season of 2016. But I don't understand the players putting these squad(s) so apart each other.
yeah ikr might tbh I personally think mantuu was so lost and was just going with what he remembered personally.
LG wasn't as dominant as SK so I think it's fair enough to have SK one tier above.
LG were strong up and coming underdogs where as SK were established Juggernauts
How did SK/LG managed to get lower than s tier, their roster with fnx in 2016 won 2 majors and a bunch of other tier 1 tounments, then they disbanded and that roster with fnx has a 100% win rate in majors. They set an era same for astralis 2018, they were unstopable. The 2 best rosters in cs history alongside fnatic 2015 probably and yet these guys didn't even knew who played for them.
LG really wasn't S tier... B is more appropriate
@@JH-ed4mm lmao what? How the fuck is everyone forgetting colds jumping 4k?? That's literally one of csgos biggest major moments
2016/17 was competitively very weak when compared to 2014/15 and 2018 onwards.
@@shak9558 bruhh moment
@@JH-ed4mm Go and watch the old matches, kid.
Back from watching Navi win the major, Navi 2021 at an S.
S+ tier needed xD... 0 maps lost!
@@gauravdabholkar3981 Navi still has to demonstrate the longevity. So Astralis is at S+ atm.
@@phylosophdotcom I wonder who will be the next best team after navi, maybe vitality?
@@Alan-gu1hp I hope Navi will dominate for a couple of years first! Vitality is looking strong on paper but they will need 6-12 months to get used to English.
@@phylosophdotcom Yeah, If s1mple can get more than 4 majors he is probably going to be considered the best player ever of cs
Navi 2021 are somewhere between S and A tier
Fanatic, astralis, SK, navi
Fallens list makes the most sense to me but he also was around to watch all the majors. NiKo putting Gambit F also amazes me
C'mon man, Fnatic 2015 won 3 Majors, and the record just got beaten only by Astralis with 4 Majors.
Are they ranking majors or team? Doesn’t make any sense this tier list
Indeed...
they're ranking the lineups of major winning teams/rosters
WOW NIKO IS MUCH MORE SMARTER HIS TIERLIST IS COMPLETELY BASED
2:05 oh nononono
Kyojiin with the hookah in the back lol
Maluco não conhecia quem jogou na LG mano, como assim....
Tiveram a coragem de colocar a LG no C e no F, eu não acredito nisso 😔, apanharam da LG e ainda falam isso dela.
mantuu nem sabia quem era a LG KKKKKKKKKKKKK, ele citou a jogada do coldzera, e falou que era da SK contra líquid, mal sabe ele que esse jogo foi a LG, é com a mesma LINE da SK
Niko's Still Tilted.
tough to have d,e,f tiers for this lol. hivemind fnatic era > astralis method era > brazilian musical chairs org era > its up for grabs winners era cloud 9 s-tier for ever
2015 „early stages of csgo” Fam these are the times golden ages 2013-15
Mantuu is tripping
I dont think most of these guys understood what they were even rating LMAOO
Matu voice sounds like that anime character that gives you advice to kill the final boss
Someone forgot to tell mantuu what the point is here, he's rating rosters based on how "hype" their win was. Like, Astralis 2018 B-tier, Cloud9 in S, not knowing who was in LG, come on man. Fallen's list seems the most correct.
Niko really put cloud9 on d tier after losing to them lol. Does that make faze E tier?
Hahagahaha
yes? c9 is one of the weakest major winning rosters just facts
fallen the one wise man
Astralis and SK Gaming rosters obviously was insanely stronger than anyone else, Fallen's tier list is better one
I like how s1mple said that ldlc should have lost to fnatic justice to olofboost is finally given
Kyojin just randomly saying some letters xD
i hope mantuu remember at least pgl stockholm
All these salty pros not even know who was on LG?? Colds jumping 4k with awp which is a part of cs history and they all forget
Salty as fuck that Astralis and Fnatic literally dominated all the players in this video. They didn't even come close and now they don't show respect? Going by that logic all the players in this video was -F at the time.
i think its not about plays but more about skill and domination
I don’t think that FalleN and s1mple had forgotten it
"I think those last two you can put on E" -NiKo👀
Kyojin with great insight. Incredible job! 🙃
I find it really funny how s1mple says the rating first and then the team
Blast Making content that PGL should
I think BLAST should next time say that every tier should have at least one team, would spread out their rankings a little bit
Fallen tier list is the best. If you see the S tier list these 3 teams dominated an era. And the other tiers were pretty solid as well
Some players did not understand what they were rating
Blast staff makes NiKo and S1mple make them remember their old times😂....FaZe vs C9 and Liquid vs LG.....btw how about prime Titan
Niko has two regrets till this day number one is losing to c9 on inferno and number two is that lovely wiff onto S1mple from heaven on nuke.
s1mple 7:50 nip 2014 on D,they proceed to pout nip on B
s1mple's list made the most sense to me.
I feel like some players were ranking the majors not the major rosters
I think Gambit in B is a fair rating, and they would've been A if Zeus hadn't gone with Kane. There was potential there for a strong top 5 roster, but Zeus was the final piece of the puzzle which took them from an impressive top 8 team to a genuine contender for major champions. Without him the team stagnated, and we all know what happened from there. All that matters to me is I got to see my team win a major in person, no matter what happened after that, that can never be taken away from me :D
*How can you not fucking put Astralis on S tier the best team that ever touched the game, delusional.* *Also, how high is Kyojin*
Hes got smoking shit in the back LOL
Niko: S tier - the teams I was in everyone else B or lower
Forgot Niko played for Astralis in 2018, and SK in 2016, he really gets around.
the fuck are you talking about? He never played in any of these teams...
@@rafamarcisz2086 ouch 😂😂😂 think bro
Tabsen and Mantuu are clearly experts and know class
They disrespecting fnatig so badly 😂, they where literally one of the most dominant teams of all time
the most with astralis
I'm green-red colourblind and I can't see Astralis logo against the red background in S tier :D
red logo + red background = nice visible =D