This discovery will change everything!

2023 ж. 7 Ақп.
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The Dutch Plan that will change everything proposed by Holland's most innovative agricultural scientist, Wouter Van Eck
The Dutch plan is the brain child of Wouter van Eck a humble farmer, from a small rural village in Holland, who has calculated something so over whelming compelling its gaining the support of millions of people around the worlds because Wouter idea could completely change how everyone from governments, supermarket chains, clothing manufacturers and farmers work forever.
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    @LeafofLifeWorld@LeafofLifeWorld Жыл бұрын
    • Good work. Bill Mollison would be proud to see his ideas becoming mainstream.

      @micheleandrews29@micheleandrews29 Жыл бұрын
    • 👍💪✌

      @rjung_ch@rjung_ch Жыл бұрын
    • Permaculture is something I learned about 2 years ago so I planted fruit trees, shrubs and still need to add more to it, BUT I just actually learned about something that has me even more excited then permaculture and that is Electroculture which is a BIG WOW when you learn this!!!

      @user-ws7zv6sf2w@user-ws7zv6sf2w Жыл бұрын
    • @@rootsinkarst8433 ​I have not seen van Eck take any credit for permaculture ideas, and so far as I have seen he very much acknowledges the inspirations and prior work he is building on. It’s just an oversight in this Leaf of Life documentary *about* his project to get these ideas implemented in national and EU policy, that doesn’t (yet!) make the distinction as clear as it should have been. @@LeafofLifeWorld this is excellent content in every other way. Could you do a part 2 where you make clear the exciting contribution van Eck’s work is making that is distinct from and builds on all of the progress that has been made in permaculture projects and food forests around the world? Kudos on synthesizing these complex issues into such a short tight message so it gets in front of many more people.

      @markmnelson@markmnelson Жыл бұрын
    • Indigenous people are the originators of this plan. Not some Dutch dude. We should be looking to Indigenous culture for guidance in many aspects of our lives. If Australia had listened to the Indigenous there would be none of the huge fires affecting them now. It’s unfortunate that when it’s a white dude all of a sudden people listen?

      @dianef.7072@dianef.7072 Жыл бұрын
  • Before creating these forests we have to take care that our 'WEF friends' don't convert all of the Netherlands into 1 big housing estate!!

    @baeruuttehei1393@baeruuttehei1393 Жыл бұрын
    • 💯👍

      @hedfuka8608@hedfuka8608 Жыл бұрын
    • And our WEF friends will soon probably require a permit for anything self-grown so that they don't miss out on their clip of the profits.

      @kel8026@kel8026 Жыл бұрын
    • Baer Uuttehei I don't hear anyone saying it has to happen in the Netherlands, their dream mega city may have been set back by the election of those who oppose it but the dream still lives on in the EU. Just watched a video from Spain where it's claimed the Spanish Govt. is annoyed because their largest building company is relocating their HQ to the Netherlands, and I doubt they did that just to enjoy a wetter climate.

      @wjf0ne@wjf0ne Жыл бұрын
    • @@wjf0ne forget about the electionwin of the 'opposing party': that is just a charade! The party with initials BBB (what does that remind you of?) is the product of an advertisement agency that is entangled with Monsanto (Round Up/Glyphosat). The party voted, already before the elections, alongside the governing parties. So nothing new there!

      @baeruuttehei1393@baeruuttehei1393 Жыл бұрын
    • Unfortunately true.

      @simonesmit6708@simonesmit6708 Жыл бұрын
  • This was also a concept devised by Bill Mollison at the University of Tasmania in 1978. He called it Permaculture & it is still used in different counties around the world.

    @juanleahy2202@juanleahy2202 Жыл бұрын
    • Right. Food forests have been creating miracles all over the world for decades.

      @sarahrobertson4629@sarahrobertson4629 Жыл бұрын
    • I came down to the comments to make this point; glad you beat me to it. I'm also glad this concept is spreading. Peter Andrews in Australia is another person to research. I hope all of us adopt this.

      @susanperry4177@susanperry4177 Жыл бұрын
    • Let us not forget David Holmgren the other half of the team that devised Permaculture.

      @briancosgrave7713@briancosgrave7713 Жыл бұрын
    • Geoff Lawson was taught by Mollison. He has a good project in the desert near Jordan. Morag Gamble is another permaculuturist teaching others in this technique. The more the better.

      @peace4peaceful@peace4peaceful Жыл бұрын
    • Lawton.

      @aaroniouse@aaroniouse Жыл бұрын
  • I did similar to this in my garden in the UK over the last few years. I have many varieties of fruit trees and shrubs, which yield a lot of fruit, every year. The wildlife that visits our garden is spectacular.

    @Serendipity479@Serendipity479 Жыл бұрын
  • The biggest downside is that it isn't compatible with current food production chains. One advantage that wasn't mentioned would be that it doesn't require flat land, it can be done on hillsides or in ravines. this type of farming would be ideal in places where tractors cannot go and maybe you want to prevent mudslides, fires or floods.

    @BearNDragon@BearNDragon Жыл бұрын
    • Not a downside.. lol It's the CHAINS that destroy everything. How much is needed just for McDonalds!!!??? I don't eat out side my kitchen much, so let's just get rid of CHAIN PRODUCTION,,, BY NOT CONSUMING IT. if the Budweiser situation didn't show you how to vote with your money, God help you.. HE is helping me create my own nutrition.

      @candygarfield1479@candygarfield1479 Жыл бұрын
    • Silvopastoralism is a great Holistic Land Management strategy. Some of the largest stands of old growth forest anywhere in America is in the crosstimbers ecoregions of Texas, because it’s mostly rough; rocky land and prairie that isn’t useful for much besides running livestock or hunting. The forests aren’t usually taller than 30-40 feet there and the trees don’t have much commercial value, despite the diversity. Intensive rotational grazing on better land, or extensive agriculture elsewhere seems like it will be a bigger part of agroecology going forth. It would be cool to see more people utilizing intermittent grazing, or mobbing, even with other people’s livestock, in the future. I’ve had some great results with ‘hoof cultivation’ and horses for seeding hay pastures, but they have giant spades for feet!

      @PathologicallyPositive@PathologicallyPositive Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@candygarfield1479 Please have some courtesy and consider people who are not yourself.

      @StephenGillie@StephenGillie Жыл бұрын
    • @@candygarfield1479 Wrong kind of chains.

      @WinnDugger@WinnDugger Жыл бұрын
    • Not much talk about what food is actually produced and grown.

      @user-vq4jb3je4b@user-vq4jb3je4b6 ай бұрын
  • I am from the Netherlands, and i have never heard of this. So i think this short film makes it a lot bigger than it is.

    @eddie_monk@eddie_monk Жыл бұрын
    • Zijn er mee bezig ,boere moet weg😢

      @ekd5213@ekd5213 Жыл бұрын
    • Because it is a fun garden, but not a real sollution on "how to feed everybody a good, solid diet, year round". It is a nice experment in "how to get by without pesitcides and how to optimally combine pieces of nature/semi-edible plants/ to make something that is usefull for survival" but it will not save the "worldhunger/overpopulation-problem" or even get us out of our current predicament where we need to step up production, but also use less pesticides, cut down on nitrogene and CO2 emissions. We are a super-tiny country and almost outproduce something as large as the combined USA... that does not happen for free, we are making a mess in the process.

      @muurrarium9460@muurrarium9460 Жыл бұрын
    • Yes, he's bumping his gums .

      @jgalt155@jgalt155 Жыл бұрын
    • I am from the Netherlands as well, work in a food forest and ampart of the food forest network. I can promise you that they are popping up everywhere since the last 2/3 years, and because it's so recent, that's probably the reason why you haven't heard of it. You'll hear about this a lot more in the upcoming years

      @EmmyBOE@EmmyBOE Жыл бұрын
    • Moet je misschien eens radio luisteren of tv kijken, dit is al jaren geleden voorbijgekomen bij verscheidene nieuws zenders.

      @mvanzijderveld3826@mvanzijderveld3826 Жыл бұрын
  • For anyone who has learned about Permaculture this is a bit unnecessarily obscure... I thought there was some kind of new discovery, but food forests are already a well known approach to most people who know about agriculture. Admittedly I think what Wouter van Eck is doing is very interesting, largely because he's kept details of his yields, which helps to prove that food forestry can compete with industrial ag. But you miss out a key aspect which is that we all need to adapt our DIET... currently a huge proportion of calories we eat come entirely from wheat, rice and corn, whereas a food forest produces a diversity of food crops. So to make use of them we need behavioural change interventions to encourage people to adapt, to learn how to cook with these foods and to enjoy them.

    @cleonawallace376@cleonawallace376 Жыл бұрын
    • nicely put: Most Americans only eat "food products". They insist on food products even in the evidence that 75% of their own deaths are caused by diet (I made that up but you get the idea) Americans prefer to consume their pills and potions. Maybe we have to accept permaculture is optimal in countries where people aren't addicted to food products? I live in Mexico and still have but an occasional success with "converts"

      @timisaac8121@timisaac8121 Жыл бұрын
    • Wheat, rice and corn all lead to a myriad of health problems, people would do well to consider abandoning the SAD and exploring better, healthier options.

      @RalphTGP@RalphTGP Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you, Cleona, You have answered one of my (Western European) questions; namely: "What about wheat (for bread, pasta and so on) and potatoes (for everything!)?" Answer: "Change your diet!" (We have only had potatoes here for about 500 years.) Best wishes, Luke

      @lukewiseman9946@lukewiseman9946 Жыл бұрын
    • the yield maybe competative with indrustrial aggriculture but these forrest are was more labor intensive to harvest

      @Kr4zYm0f0@Kr4zYm0f0 Жыл бұрын
    • People should eat a KETO DIET.

      @fekkyb@fekkyb Жыл бұрын
  • One thing not mentioned, but very important: How much time does it take to harvest the crops? Way more then harvesting with machines. It's very labour intensive. Something we already have a big problem with. It's not going to work on large scales.

    @quickwimnl@quickwimnl Жыл бұрын
    • Monoculture is a flaming disaster. Permaculture is another name for this. Lots of people have been doing this for years. Geoff Lawton has a lot on youtube about it. Farming in this manner requires zero external input. It works off of what nature does better than suits behind desks do. The problem with too many people is that they're incapable thinking their way through the dynamics involved in farming. They foolishly believe you toss sees on the ground and they grow then you pick. That is why centrally controlled agriculture of any sort especially the WEF version always results in abject failure and finger pointing. It's a lesson nobody seems to learn.

      @richardhawkins2248@richardhawkins224810 ай бұрын
    • @@richardhawkins2248 Some crops don't care about being on the same ground for decades. And for the rest, we rotate. One year it's potato's, next year it wheat and then it's carrots. Every harvest leaves plantwaste that will be plowed into the ground to fertilize the next growth.

      @quickwimnl@quickwimnl10 ай бұрын
    • @@richardhawkins2248 You didn't aswer my question on how to organize harvesting. Not to mention storage. You can't harvest all year round. A lot of crops, fruits and nuts can only be harvest in a short period of time. You need people for this. And worse, you need those people everywhere at the same time. We don't have that many people (let alone people who are willing). There is your biggest problem.

      @quickwimnl@quickwimnl10 ай бұрын
  • In theory it sounds great, but as many have already stated it would be a nightmare to harvest these forests.

    @DenniskuhhNL@DenniskuhhNL Жыл бұрын
    • Jobs jobs jobs

      @nerlind@nerlind Жыл бұрын
    • @@nerlind If you need a ton of people it won't be financially feasable

      @DenniskuhhNL@DenniskuhhNL Жыл бұрын
    • @@DenniskuhhNL Yes, the finances do matter. There is savings in input though and right now we are only speaking through our assumptions in general terms. A closer look at the details would reveal the bottom line. I simply commented because monoculture has so many problems that we are not aware of and it is simply not working when we look at the long term effects. This is in real terms, not theory. Just saying let us not discount something outright without looking deeper into it.

      @nerlind@nerlind Жыл бұрын
    • @@nerlind oh I'm all for this idea. I just don't see an easy way of automizing harvestation of randomly growing forests. You just can't beat the modern harvesting techniques with a bunch of workers combing through a forest with a bucket. Sure, those forest grown products are more healthy, but you need A LOT of workers & manhours to get the same yield. Because of that, products would get signifactly more expensive which would harm our living standard. Also, farmers can no longer mass produce products that people actually want. We would be dependent on what the forest offers us, which would cause scarcity for products people want, and leftover waste for all others. Creating more segregation between the poor and the rich.

      @DenniskuhhNL@DenniskuhhNL Жыл бұрын
    • nightmare? sounds a lot nicer to pick fruits and nuts there than sitting in a cubicle 9-5 every single day... it would be healther for you too... but of course you would have less time drewling mindlessly infront of the TV...

      @LiLBitsDK@LiLBitsDK Жыл бұрын
  • As a Dutchie, I would not call it a Dutch plan. The idea of food forrest is not really widely adapted yet besides some very local places.

    @MarkNieuwenhuizen@MarkNieuwenhuizen Жыл бұрын
    • Except for all the rain-forrest that humans havn't entirely taken over yet. Since it is the normal state of many forrests.

      @ShieTar_@ShieTar_ Жыл бұрын
    • Het heet het Nederlandse plan omdat het hier bedacht was, niet omdat het hier zo veel toegepast wordt ;-)

      @pieterveenders9793@pieterveenders9793 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@ShieTar_ no doubt humans need to keep doing better... but when those in power keep reminding us that there are too many people, they mean its you and me.. we are the too many people. . No one wants to destroy the planet. . But there are other solutions than starving us all...

      @oxelaroost@oxelaroost Жыл бұрын
    • @@pieterveenders9793 Het is eerder al toegepast door andere volkeren, o.a. in India. Andrew Millison op youtube laat dit tot in details zien en interviewt de mensen die het hebben gedaan daar. Het een naam geven, betekent niet dat we de uitvinders/bedenkers zijn.

      @NihmBizoh@NihmBizoh Жыл бұрын
    • Food forests are more productive as a collective of calories produced than standard agriculture, but harder to make a living doing it because of the stretched out tasks on the farm. It's also harder to make mortgage payments with it

      @blackduckfarmcanada@blackduckfarmcanada Жыл бұрын
  • I've been doing a micro version of this in my backyard for over 15years now only two miles from a major American city. It's very hilly where I live, so we incorporate bioswales to slow and collect the rain water when it flows. It's awesome and we have crops coming up every year that we didn't even plant!

    @johnmcnulty4425@johnmcnulty4425 Жыл бұрын
    • @@user-hi3um6dh1y Why bother planning ? You just have to select crops that naturally grows in your garden.

      @TheSpongebob1919@TheSpongebob1919 Жыл бұрын
    • And you rely on this totally as your source of food.

      @otooled@otooled Жыл бұрын
    • No, it's supplemental.

      @johnmcnulty4425@johnmcnulty4425 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@jondoe5536 That's fantastic&if u can be as self sufficient as possible,which means less reliance that has to be a good thing(if only frm a personal state of mind) And it's got to be more economical! And I hope ur managing to sell some of ur produce on the side(farmers market& like)

      @jerryoshea3116@jerryoshea3116 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for your input. I want to try it.

      @lukeblackford1677@lukeblackford1677 Жыл бұрын
  • I find this a very interesting principle and would definitely want to know more about it. But I do have some doubts about the claims and wonder how certain things are handled. For example: 1. With so many different crops, how are they individually harvested? With all crops next to each other and overlapping, the harvest must be very labour intensive as there is no space for mechanical harvesters. 2. The yield will be small per crop because there is only a small amount of that crop. Economies of scale will be hard to accomplish. 3. This might work for some crops, but for many others it will not be possible (e.g. grains) 4. how to deal with fungus, bacteria and insects that want to eat the crops? I imagine different fungi will affect different crops. With everything so close, any pesticide or poison will also touch crops that are not affected by that specific fungus/bacteria. 5. Not all crops are as popular by the population. Can the more popular crops also be grown in this context or only certain specific ones? 6. The claim that this grants bigger yields than traditional farming is hard to believe as traditional farming does everything to get an optimal yield for one product. Every millimeter of space is used for an optimal crop yield. But if so, how is this measured? But, this does sound very interesting and i would love to see a much smaller example than this (for people with only a small patch of land).

    @arnoudvandenakker2116@arnoudvandenakker2116 Жыл бұрын
    • small area, small crop... large food forest, large crop... harvest and eat what is in season... try to get away from the "we need big machines to harvest this, else it isn't efficient" those thoughts are what brought us into the trouble we are in

      @LiLBitsDK@LiLBitsDK Жыл бұрын
    • @@LiLBitsDK this means everyone has to live close to the crop to be able to harvest it, and a lot are needed to harvest a lot. Those people won't be able to do much else as this will be very time consuming. You are basically foraging not farming. You will not be producing enough excess to feed those in cities, so they have to move out of the cities to where they can forage for themselves, whilst not spending time on their normal job. As for eating foods in season, that's what mainly happened when I was a kid, but you still had farms growing the stuff. And you need food through the winter when nothing grows so you need to produce enough to supply the population through the winter. Which is possibly the root of the "western" profit motive ie you must produce more than you need now as you will need it later in winter. So just producing a little and varied crop is fine for a handful of people, but it isn't practical for a large population. The last time the majority survived mainly on similar foraging in Europe was probably before the bronze age. Since farming began it has allowed society and population to grow.

      @crabby7668@crabby7668 Жыл бұрын
    • @@crabby7668 so you live close to your work now? define close? even to this day there are "day laborers" that travel around the countries to harvest whatever is in season in the various areas... not hard and don't waste my time if you don't know the difference of forage and forest farming... forage = you try to find stuff farming = you harvest the stuff because you know where it is

      @LiLBitsDK@LiLBitsDK Жыл бұрын
    • @@LiLBitsDK if this were to be done as a replacement for traditional farming as some (you?) are positing, then everyone would need time to do their farming, which would detract from their normal activities. How many can spend 8 hours at work and then spend multiple hours farming? Not many I would bet, particular if farming properly. Farming is not an easy job, particularly on a commercial scale. Yes there are day rate workers who travel round real farms harvesting crops, usually for money. That means that the farm has to produce enough excess to sell to be able to pay them. In this theoretical scenario it still has to be enough to feed them and their families or they are going to be back home doing their own forest farming and not available to work for someone else. If you run it as a commune then people need to live close to it or they have an even worse problem with available time. There seems to be different ideas on how this is supposed to operate ie either commercially or as a commune/small holding type of operation. I severely doubt whether the productivity would be anywhere enough to run commercially on a large scale ie feeding the general population., rather than just selling some mushrooms to a local restaurant. As a private small holding or commune it has its merits, but people would still have to spend a lot of their time on it. If it produced much more product than normal farming as claimed, it would be highly unlikely that traditional farming would have evolved away from it the way it has. Also planting non woodland crops isn't likely to work very well because the trees will block the light that the crops need. Woodland products tend to grow where they want to, so either you have to make them grow where you want them to, which will tend to micro monoculture because it's easier for you to have one type of plant all together, or you run a natural woodland where everything is all over the shop. If the latter then it is akin to foraging. Yes you know where the trees or bushes are but you don't necessarily know how much crop and when is best to harvest (usually in dribs and drabs) unless you spend a lot of time in the forest observing the crops. I suspect many people are viewing this as a if it were a hobby rather than a serious method of feeding the population. That is doubly so if you have to produce enough to keep the population fed over winter. A slight adjustment to your definition of farming. "Harvesting the crop because you know where it is" and the essential point" because you put it there in the first place"

      @crabby7668@crabby7668 Жыл бұрын
    • @@crabby7668 no they wouldn't... guess you have never worked with farming or have any clue about... atleast that is the vibe I get from you... I have worked with various sorts of farming for 30 years... 1 person working with farming with food forests can feed a LOT more than one person... will it take more people than now? yes... will that be bad? no... is there tons of useless pseudojobs now? yes... can those people doing useless stuff produce food? yes... but to be honest I don't care... as long as I can produce my own food then you can starve when they ban all the farming as they are doing now... enjoy your grubs and printed meats and tofu crap...

      @LiLBitsDK@LiLBitsDK Жыл бұрын
  • About seventy-five years ago my father bought a house in a little subdivision. He planted fruit trees all over the yard, grapes along the fences that bordered two sides of the yard with a house showing one end and a raspberry patch on the other. In the summer we had apples peaches pears plums cherries apricots and sugar pears. We had grapes Concord green and honeydew. We had raspberries growing and hazelnuts. Along with a wide variety of garden vegetables inclusion Swiss chard watermelon tomatoes green peppers radishes asparagus and several other. We gave many fresh fruits to our neighbors my mother registered nurse and mother of pork and many vegetables and baked many pies and desserts. She sewed costumes for the school band and Halloween and V plays our school put on. She was very adaptable and wonderful mother. In the Summers we go into the woods and collect Hickory nuts and black walnuts and pick dewberries blackberries and loganberries in the resting corn fields. When I woke up with a child in the sixties I would go out in the yard and eat some cherries and then some grapes and go look in the garden and basically get my breakfast off of the ground. In the 50 my father had chickens and other wild foul. It was a wonderful childhood. I wish I'd known then what I know now. God bless my parents may they rest in happiness. Other people's yards in this subdivision were neatly trimmed and some had a few trees and some head absolutely no shade in the summer. We can change the way we shop we can change the way we live and we can save the planet but we must put away the cars and the dependency on big agricultural products. It's much healthier I've lived to be over 70 now, by at least three months. Take care of God blessing everyone plant yourself a damn Garden you'll feel better. The more gardens you plant better you live.

    @edwardroche2480@edwardroche24809 ай бұрын
  • Growing food is one side of the medal. Harvesting the other side. I see a problem: harvesting in a food forest requires a lot of manual labor. I think it is good for producing some types of food but not for all food. E.g. grain is needed in huge amounts of quantity. Even if a food forest can produce so much grain, harvesting will be impossible, because the machines cannot be used.

    @rolfs5854@rolfs5854 Жыл бұрын
    • That's what I thought

      @salvia506@salvia506 Жыл бұрын
    • This isnt supposed to be harvested by 1 man, to feed a 100. It is supposed to be harvested by a 100 people that are going to eat it themself.

      @jankaas2760@jankaas2760 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jankaas2760 How would that work for cities like - London - with millions of inhabitants and no easy access to such land even if such woodland existed. If they all of them had to drive say 20mile out of the city to access the land and then 'pick their food' surely that would lead to more pollution not less. In modern households where both/all adults work, often long hours, where would they find the time to do this. What happens if I arrive and find 'no suitable food' left? how is pricing agreed? Looks like a great small scale solution in rural communities, but I can't see it being viable more widely.

      @ianmatlock1@ianmatlock1 Жыл бұрын
    • Grain is only needed in such large quantities to feed animals.

      @johnfowler4820@johnfowler4820 Жыл бұрын
    • @@johnfowler4820 solution - reduce the livestock stack.

      @mvanzijderveld3826@mvanzijderveld3826 Жыл бұрын
  • I own a large area of land and leave 20% of the property in native conditions. When Dad was alive he donated 300 acres of land to conservation. I go there from time to time just to see how big the tree's actually get in the wild. I do wish we still had the giant Chestnut trees,but a imported insect killed them all.

    @jaymartin4166@jaymartin4166 Жыл бұрын
    • Can you elaborate what the imported insects are? This is a new concept to me. How did the insects kill the trees?

      @satheeshragothamanrao439@satheeshragothamanrao439 Жыл бұрын
    • @@satheeshragothamanrao439 ,it was a wood bore bettle There's a Utube video about it Killing of the Chestnut of Appalachia.

      @jaymartin4166@jaymartin4166 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jaymartin4166 How sad and tragic

      @misst.e.a.187@misst.e.a.187 Жыл бұрын
    • Yes, I love that you shared this comment. Our farm has retired many sections of land to regeneration. Areas that are not great for commercial agriculture. Trees are planted in these sections every year. Some 25 000 trees now planted over 20 years. And so many more can be planted..... I suspect now the land has had enough rest and could take in different species of trees now. Thank you for this. Gives us hope

      @riversedgegoatdairy297@riversedgegoatdairy297 Жыл бұрын
    • Can i introduce you to viktor schauberger. He wrote lots of valuable books on conservation.

      @kevd7664@kevd7664 Жыл бұрын
  • I knew you could do this. I commented on these methods when I first heard of what was happening to the Dutch farmers and fertilizers. Congratulations!

    @THEROOTMATTERS@THEROOTMATTERS8 ай бұрын
  • This looks like an expansion on the French Intensive gardening method dating back to the 1500's- it works! The late Alan Chadwick could create an ecosystem over barren rock with the right stuff.

    @breft3416@breft3416 Жыл бұрын
  • In Canada, we call it going to the wilderness because if you know where to look in Canada, you’ll find wild berry bushes already growing you’ll find hazelnuts bushes you’ll find fruit trees, strawberry patches, you name it you can find it in the Canadian wilderness provided it grows in our climate But one word of caution, black bears and grizzly bears likes to grazing in these areas so you might become food to

    @moose6144@moose6144 Жыл бұрын
    • It's okay, Justin wants you all herded into cities...

      @thursoberwick1948@thursoberwick1948 Жыл бұрын
    • nice!

      @iga279@iga279 Жыл бұрын
    • Nice for you Canadian, but how is that going to help me here in NL?

      @neckreth@neckreth Жыл бұрын
    • @@neckreth move to Canada and if you have socialist ideas leaving them their

      @moose6144@moose6144 Жыл бұрын
    • Thanks for the comment DUH.....try living on GRUB HAMBURGERS sport !! right now you can eat anthing you want..but what if you only had food made up of BUGS ..FUBAR FUBAR FUBAR !

      @carlmayer691@carlmayer691 Жыл бұрын
  • How do you harvest your produce consistently in that mess? Only by hand?

    @yeshuadvargas5552@yeshuadvargas5552 Жыл бұрын
    • How about building community along with the food forest? Every community, their own food forest. Possibilities✨✌

      @ZANAHEALING@ZANAHEALING Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@ZANAHEALING literally medieval infrastructure, that you're proposing.

      @albertolopezadrados8282@albertolopezadrados8282 Жыл бұрын
    • @@albertolopezadrados8282 Exactly, hope that the unauthorized cutting of hazel won't be punishable by death just like then.

      @Rodoriginal101@Rodoriginal101 Жыл бұрын
    • My thoughts exactly. Only very skilled and knowledgeable people must be involved in the process. This is going to be quite a task, as the whole paradigm would need to shift for it to work.

      @Rodoriginal101@Rodoriginal101 Жыл бұрын
    • It's a sincere question. I know there are farms that are actually doing this, I'm just asking how does it work in terms of logistics. Again, is it all just done by hand?

      @yeshuadvargas5552@yeshuadvargas5552 Жыл бұрын
  • The Netflix documentary - Kiss the ground - is all about regenerative farming. Great concept. The Dutch plan applies this concept as well and takes is one step further with the idea of food forrests. Sounds great. But will this approach really enable production of food to serve our current diets? I would imagine that it would at least change the menu quite significantly. And since human nature is to resist change how would this plan bring about such change?

    @florisluger5167@florisluger5167 Жыл бұрын
    • We might get healthy.

      @leenvanmelle@leenvanmelle11 ай бұрын
  • The Netherlands does it again! So proud of my heritage.

    @corriehordyk3342@corriehordyk3342 Жыл бұрын
    • Me too. Very proud to be dutch.

      @robertvanderbaan3722@robertvanderbaan37225 ай бұрын
  • Sounds great, however without details of what is actually grown its difficult to say how good this actually is. I would like full details of what is grown in this food forest, specifically the vegetables grown.

    @margaretg711@margaretg711 Жыл бұрын
    • Be proactive and do your research

      @misst.e.a.187@misst.e.a.187 Жыл бұрын
    • There are no details because there are no harvests worth mentioning. Did you crunch the numbers? 5,000 tons of harvest from how many square meters? This is a fairy-tale!

      @klauskarpfen9039@klauskarpfen9039 Жыл бұрын
    • Always the calculating mind, isn't it? The fact that no chemicals are involved, and wildlife thrives in this food forest, offers lasting security into the future. While the mono culture farming ends 1 day, with the soil entirely lifeless. No calculating of yield anymore, just dead soil.

      @devonseamoor@devonseamoor Жыл бұрын
    • @@devonseamoor This of course justifies lying with absurd numbers.

      @klauskarpfen9039@klauskarpfen9039 Жыл бұрын
    • Sounds like going back in time, living in jungles without any mechanization.

      @vrugtmanable@vrugtmanable Жыл бұрын
  • This can never work for high output industrial farming. The logistics of harvesting eliminates profitability except at small business level

    @mejustme8138@mejustme8138 Жыл бұрын
  • We did this in North and South America, a long time ago. After European diseases wiped out most of our population over the first couple hundred years after contact, we lost our knowledge of horticulture, and devolved into hunter/gatherers. We have since rediscovered our heritage, and its nice to see that it has had a positive impact on the Europeans, even if it did take a few more hundred years and a misanthropic Australian in order to catch on.

    @Green.Country.Agroforestry@Green.Country.Agroforestry Жыл бұрын
  • I was amazed at the sense your Dutch Plan poses. I highly support the food forest. I

    @rogerengley4357@rogerengley4357 Жыл бұрын
    • Geoff Lawton has been doing this for many more years.

      @richardhawkins2248@richardhawkins224810 ай бұрын
  • The capabilities of a country that does not primarily fund an industrial war complex is endless.

    @Susie7760@Susie7760 Жыл бұрын
    • 100%

      @michaelthescreechowl9427@michaelthescreechowl9427 Жыл бұрын
    • This is one man's initiative though. And the US there's a lot more to it that military spending. Even if the US had spent 1.6% GDP on the military as the Netherlands did pre-covid (it's up now), it still would have had an overall 2.6% budget deficit. And unlike the Netherlands, still have shitty infrastructure and public transportation, sub-par education and no universal healthcare. The US needs a major overhaul, but it's not coming any time soon. But people can start food forests alone or in groups though.

      @MrMezmerized@MrMezmerized Жыл бұрын
    • @@MrMezmerized The problem of coercive govt. forced on all by popular demand is worldwide. If just one (1) country started a govt. based on choice, not violence and threats, it would be as a beacon of freedom to all and therefore it would be attacked by the United Nations before people could learn they self-enslave when they support the present worldwide political paradigm.

      @1voluntaryist@1voluntaryist Жыл бұрын
    • Holland is NATO member and that on its own says it all.

      @arnold3785@arnold3785 Жыл бұрын
    • @@trystwithdestiny100 I had no idea. Thanks for the information.

      @Susie7760@Susie7760 Жыл бұрын
  • I think this is a great plan.... but it will never be implemented in a top-down method due to the huge lobbying bank rolls funded by pharmaceuticals and agricultural industries. Keep in mind that Bayer also owns Monsato, so they are financially incentivized to keep the world on an inflammatory diet with a heavy grain dependency.

    @KH-vv5dq@KH-vv5dq Жыл бұрын
    • @Садоводство so true!

      @pierrejamison1239@pierrejamison1239 Жыл бұрын
  • the thought that popped out at me was how much labor would be needed to harvest anything, and would the harvesting interfere with the soil enrichment if done to most of the food produced? it looks like collecting would be a very manual process

    @mm-yt8sf@mm-yt8sf Жыл бұрын
  • This is really cool. I seen a video where a person made a small pond and planted a bunch of different plants around it, and it brought all kinds of different wildlife to it.

    @Homer4prez@Homer4prez Жыл бұрын
  • I have just two questions about economics of such an endeavor. How you manage to harvest different plants in different seasons? In addition even if the soil could provide for a better growth of plants how will they compete for the sunlight with trees?

    @tomaszworoch@tomaszworoch Жыл бұрын
    • Your intelligent questions and understanding of reality is not suitable for the already old "idea" presented here. :)

      @pierrenilsson6189@pierrenilsson6189 Жыл бұрын
    • @@pierrenilsson6189 Nowadays we fear intelligent questions more than anything in the world :-))))

      @nickso30@nickso30 Жыл бұрын
  • Sounds great, like a lot of fairy tales do 😉. You’d make the story far easier to believe giving some numbers illustrating how much of what crops those two hectares of food forest are actually producing

    @przemekszubstarski718@przemekszubstarski718 Жыл бұрын
    • Also ... a description of how all these different food types would be harvested from wild woodland (because it would be tough labour, and time consuming). Then there is packaging, transport, and retail (before it goes off). Neither described was the battle of life, where insects place their eggs in fruit (where they grow, before exiting the fruit). I can cut out the bad bits in fruit, but most people would want fruit to be undamaged.

      @EngineTuning@EngineTuning Жыл бұрын
    • For the most part these forests will need to be hand picked. I only see how this will decrease the overall food supply, but maybe that is the point.

      @pablopolski1228@pablopolski1228 Жыл бұрын
    • Pro corporation, huh?

      @Caged63Man@Caged63Man Жыл бұрын
    • @@Caged63Man ?

      @EngineTuning@EngineTuning Жыл бұрын
    • Timestamp 4.09 ....5000 tons of fruit and nuts annually...😅🤣😂

      @hedfuka8608@hedfuka8608 Жыл бұрын
  • This is the first time I have heard of the concept "Food Forest". I'll need to learn more but on the face of it, it looks good, maybe very good indeed. Additional benefits would be that a diverse selection of species would mean protection from a plague that could wipe out a single major food supply crop.

    @jakedee4117@jakedee4117 Жыл бұрын
    • Look into Permaculture and Natural Farming if you’re looking to learn more

      @monicacruz4407@monicacruz4407 Жыл бұрын
  • I wonder... I believe the statements made but I am missing the production level compared to mono-culture. Will the farmers have the same profitability? What would be their incentive to move to this?

    @MrWiggenhammer@MrWiggenhammer Жыл бұрын
  • The whole reason the worlds large scale farms are the way they are is so not everyone has to be a farmer. With food forests many more people would have to be farmers since there is not a way to mass harvest these more natural food forests. Works well for small scale like homesteads though.

    @joshuasjams1207@joshuasjams1207 Жыл бұрын
    • Mass harvest is an illusion it only works with grain crops, most fruit and veg farms use human hands for harvesting. Often they are casual or seasonal workers many 'illegal' immigrants, under paid, overworked and bad working conditions, exposure to heat, since no shade on moncultures and exposure to chemicals. The work they would do in a food forest would be much more pleasant compared to a big agricultural farm.

      @LeafofLifeWorld@LeafofLifeWorld Жыл бұрын
    • @@LeafofLifeWorld Besides fruits, vegetables, herbs and flowers, pretty much everything can be mass harvested. Some examples are Potato Wheat Corn Rice Soybeans Rapeseed Sugar cane Cotton Alfalfa Clover Wouldn't call it an illusion by any stretch when those are big food staples. But yes, if such a "food forest" could be laid out in such a way as to allow access to some smaller machinery meant for transport, it could be a viable alternative for vegetable and fruit production; there still remains one problem though, and that is the impact of nature on the produce. People don't want damaged goods, i.e. fruits damaged because they were used for insect reproduction and similar things you wouldn't find in the "not quite sterile but not far off" conditions you find in monoculture. Might well be a more pleasant working condition, though the pay might have to be adjusted downwards to account for lower productivity per worker (longer travel to drop off goods, wilder patterns that require more thought, compared to nice uniform accessible fruit/vegs). I don't see a reason illegal immigrants or other people with little recourse to abuse would not be used for "food forest" harvesting. That's a different topic and I feel is unrelated.

      @theral056@theral056 Жыл бұрын
    • @@LeafofLifeWorld So potatoes are grain crops now?

      @BlacksmithTWD@BlacksmithTWD Жыл бұрын
  • Permaculture is spreading slowly around the world. I hope to see a lot of it in urban settings, I'd sure like to see it in my area, and am working toward it in my small piece of property on the west coast of the U.S.

    @RevLetaLee@RevLetaLee Жыл бұрын
    • We’re hoping to start a permaculture site as well. For now, we have our balcony garden.

      @mountaingardening@mountaingardening Жыл бұрын
    • Years ago most homes had a small garden which they grew there own food not difficult let’s go back

      @crisb3631@crisb3631 Жыл бұрын
    • @@mountaingardening it's still Its still permaculture even if it is just on your balcony. Well done, and best wishes once you get some land.

      @b_uppy@b_uppy Жыл бұрын
    • CUCKOO WHACKO HERE FOLKS... eats bugs, wants government to take care of her too..

      @carlmayer691@carlmayer691 Жыл бұрын
  • Plus the main thing, grains store well over long periods without much cost. And fresh produce needs refrigeration to last a few weeks during shipping and storing

    @KenSoHappyClegg@KenSoHappyClegg Жыл бұрын
  • I don’t doubt these farms have the potential to produce more but I wonder about the logistics of harvesting it.

    @Bespelled22@Bespelled22 Жыл бұрын
  • I love Food Forests, but I think 1 acre won't produce 5,000 tons of anything. Did I hear that wrong?

    @wtfutv5419@wtfutv5419 Жыл бұрын
    • No,you heard correct...timestamp 4.09 .. "5000 tons of fruit and nuts annually" ...😅🤣😂

      @hedfuka8608@hedfuka8608 Жыл бұрын
  • The more food forests the better. It is probably one of the most ancient human ideas, although permaculture gave it another life.

    @ludwikawykurz4345@ludwikawykurz4345 Жыл бұрын
    • Permaculture is the modern human name for how nature works since the beginning of times

      @MrPoilleke@MrPoilleke Жыл бұрын
    • @@MrPoillekewell, yes and no. We are student's of nature but the "culture" part is for human conscious choices according to knowledge based on observation of natural ecosystems. Nature does not create a geodesic dome greenhouse or a compost toilet and you don't use the name permaculture for a wild rainforest or an ocean reef system. But you can use knowledge about how reef and rainforest work to improve the ecosystem of your garden - and it is fair to name that a permaculture approach.

      @ludwikawykurz4345@ludwikawykurz4345 Жыл бұрын
    • @@ludwikawykurz4345 damn, you gotme, as a newbie i thought it was that way, lol. As i thought the first agriculture came from crops found in a food forest and planted as a monoculture... Thanks for the lesson :)

      @MrPoilleke@MrPoilleke Жыл бұрын
    • also remember to poop in them. give the nutrients back

      @rgw5991@rgw5991 Жыл бұрын
    • @@rgw5991 that's exactly one of my official mottos "shit happens - use it as a manure" :P

      @ludwikawykurz4345@ludwikawykurz4345 Жыл бұрын
  • We did this in our front yard at the beginning of Covid. We had a shallow barren slope in our front yard only about 10 feet wide by 30 feet long separating the house from the sidewalk but it was at a 30° angle and so Grass would only survive the winters in Los Angeles, and in the summers, it would just turn to bear dirt, after years of trying to keep the grass alive, I gave up and we created two terraces that we planted with fruit trees and tree collards and then understory it with herbs and vegetables and we compost it about a gallon or two of kitchen scraps every day that we planted in there and we now have over 15 different types of butterflies And our front yard is used by local college professors as a model landscape. We have fresh greens from our front yard. Almost every day takes work but it’s doable.

    @playinglifeoneasy9226@playinglifeoneasy92268 ай бұрын
  • This is a practice that have been used for generations in Cameroon, Africa. I'm glad to see that the Dutch are also adopting the same system.

    @alexdesousa7966@alexdesousa796610 ай бұрын
  • Can you imagine if the state of Iowa was a food forest rather than just fields of endless corn?

    @tao_dude2798@tao_dude2798 Жыл бұрын
    • That would be beautiful 😍

      @LeafofLifeWorld@LeafofLifeWorld Жыл бұрын
    • Iowa in particular is such a travesty. We have a lot of cropland in Michigan but at least there are forests off in the distance. Farmland does degrade quite quickly over time. Many old abandoned farms become scrub forests. Scientists thought it would take a century or more to become a full natural forest. But if we are smart, and bring in compost and woodchip mulch to degraded soil, and fell some of the dying older trees, newer healthier trees shoot up. Fell & mulch weak trees and plant more of the varieties you want, keeping only the healthiest. 100 years can be compressed to 15 or 20 years.

      @Nphen@Nphen Жыл бұрын
    • From an Iowa resident. Iowa has not been forested since at least before the last glacial period. Most of northern Iowa was bogs and swamps. There are currently more trees in Iowa then at any time in the last 20,000 years. It is true that modern agriculture produces dead dirt not living soil. It is also true that grass captures more co2 then trees do over their lifespans.

      @alanlong2121@alanlong2121 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Nphen thats what I say, invest all our reaources for the next five years and rejuvenate the millions of acres of land

      @mrwess1927@mrwess1927 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Nphen In Iowa you won't find abandoned farms. There might be a few dormant farms, but that is usually for legal reasons such as inheritance litigation. Occasionally there is land willed to the state as nature reserves. One such nature reserve near me went from corn field to 50 foot dense trees composed of maple, white oak, walnut, cherry, and locust in 50 years. Our farm ground should have been better cared for, true, but still has some of the highest organic matter content for farmed ground in the nation. I don't doubt your sincerity, but you really need to select your sources better.

      @zmavrick@zmavrick Жыл бұрын
  • In Brazil Ernest Goetsch did the same in a much larger scale, and became recognized by the syntropic agriculture.

    @ceciliaherzog@ceciliaherzog Жыл бұрын
    • We have so much to learn from him

      @joaquimbarbosa896@joaquimbarbosa896 Жыл бұрын
  • I have been promoting the idea of food forests since I first heard of them back in the 1970's. It is nice to see them finally catch on before I die.

    @davidhogan621@davidhogan621 Жыл бұрын
    • Don't hold your breath!

      @kerryfoster1@kerryfoster1 Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent performance, we should not calculate the cost which we invest because if world go this way quite possible possible; humans may decrease 1 degree of increased temperature in 7 years. Great work done by the people of Netherlands. I thank you

    @ghjeelanisaboon7122@ghjeelanisaboon712211 ай бұрын
  • I think there is something important missing from this video. I listened to a video from Wouter van Eck a while ago. He explained his version of the food forest and how it needs to be rational ie easy to harvest and scalable. So while it is building on an idea from permaculture it is something a little different.

    @ronamcintosh8762@ronamcintosh8762 Жыл бұрын
    • Thank you for pointint that out! Yes, it would have been nice to have had that in the video, as that would have given it some substance that it was lacking imo. There are so many videos already about how fantastic permaculture is (and it is), but so little about the important transition from small idealists to methods and organizations for actually feeding the masses.

      @peasinourthyme5722@peasinourthyme5722 Жыл бұрын
    • "to harvest and scalable". That's what I was looking for in the comments. It does not matter if it produces x-times more food as the farmer next door. How do you get the food out of this 'jungle'? :)

      @GerritDeSmedt@GerritDeSmedt Жыл бұрын
    • @@GerritDeSmedt Wouter van Eck explains this in his KZhead video 'Food Forests Future Role ; Feeding the World?!' He explains the difference between a 'romantic' food forest ie a jungle and a rational one. I imagine it is the rational version which he presented to the government for the Dutch Plan!

      @ronamcintosh8762@ronamcintosh8762 Жыл бұрын
    • @@peasinourthyme5722 I agree that permaculture is great and I think the more people adopt in either wholly or partially the better. I think all food forests have so much potential, whether 'romantic' or the 'rational' version.

      @ronamcintosh8762@ronamcintosh8762 Жыл бұрын
    • @@ronamcintosh8762 yes, i believe food forest really is the way go, and we need the whole spectrum from romantic to rational. We also need i think to accept a different agricultural economical model where a lot more people are working there than currently. (In the sc developed world)

      @peasinourthyme5722@peasinourthyme5722 Жыл бұрын
  • I had heard of the food forest concept a few years ago and thought it was an amazing idea, so I created my own food forest and I love it. My goal is to do food preservation from my excess produce. Self-sufficiency and community trade are invaluable. I am in full support of this!

    @kiwitexan6022@kiwitexan6022 Жыл бұрын
    • Try and think of a politician planting a food forest and giving lip service to working it

      @bartbley1269@bartbley1269 Жыл бұрын
    • I am thinking of growing a very small food forest in my backyard. What I wonder about is how much time it takes every day after things are planted. Is it more for people with plenty of spare time?

      @tnijoo5109@tnijoo5109 Жыл бұрын
    • @@tnijoo5109 just let it grow buddy, and harvest what yo uneed when you need it.

      @mvanzijderveld3826@mvanzijderveld3826 Жыл бұрын
    • As a hobby yes, I have a food garden myself. To feed the world? Especially the poor? no, won't work at all

      @DrTheRich@DrTheRich Жыл бұрын
    • It will be hardly impossible to become or continue to be the 2nd largest food producer of the world with food forests. Food needs to be hand picked so it will only work on a small scale or many, many small farms. This also does not consider that the Netherlands is one of the biggest milk producers of the world and also does not consider meat production. If every Dutch person would do this in their backyard it would be great. But most people don't even have a backyard. Let alone one that is big enough to feed them. This is very idealistic way of thinking and not realistic for feeding the world.

      @socialhostage8534@socialhostage8534 Жыл бұрын
  • Save the Dutch FARMS AND FARMERS!

    @richardgirard642@richardgirard642 Жыл бұрын
  • Very nice as a private enterprise (Van Eck is selling food forest courses for more than €500 per person) but it is impossible to feed a population with this concept. Harvesting will be way too expensive.

    @typpiet5140@typpiet5140 Жыл бұрын
  • The Biggest Little Farm did a great job building a 'farm forest' like this from dead soil in only 7 years but also used animals. They are still doing very well years later.

    @lukeweaver9287@lukeweaver9287 Жыл бұрын
    • Just loved the movie!

      @morganclare4704@morganclare4704 Жыл бұрын
  • I don't see how this will produce more food. Comparing forest soil to soil with fertilizer is avoided in this video. But, they want us to starve and eat the bugs, so i'm sure this will move forward.

    @jdwyer4851@jdwyer4851 Жыл бұрын
  • "170,000 hectares converted to food forest can feed 1 million people". Great. How about the other 16 million Dutch folks and hundreds of millions of people outside the Netherlands who currently eat Dutch grown and produced food?

    @f.fields2703@f.fields2703 Жыл бұрын
  • There are many all around the world, thank God, working on similar permaculture projects. I think it is excellant. All the best in everything you do.

    @HeatherMyfanwyTylerGreey@HeatherMyfanwyTylerGreey9 ай бұрын
  • Wooter? 5.000 tons annually food? Dude, I’ve bin there, it’s a bunch of weeds with a berry here and there. 5.000 tons of food on one and a half hectare … sure. Am I one of the last none poked human beings with a functioning frontal cortex left or something?

    @stephenvanwijk9669@stephenvanwijk9669 Жыл бұрын
    • 5 tons it is greendealvoedselbossen.nl/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/Boulestreau-Y.-van-Eck-W.-2016-Design-ans-performance-evaluation.pdf

      @bonomonkey@bonomonkey Жыл бұрын
  • This is neat! My dad always said a lot of farm land was worn out and if they didn't use a bunch of fertilizers on it they wouldn't be able to grow anything. I live in the US and we could certainly use something like this to help get our soils healthy again and help our environment and people to be well. Thankyou!

    @marycompogno5665@marycompogno5665 Жыл бұрын
    • Check out regenerativ agriculture. And check out holistic grazing management. Both larger scale solutions to our biodiversity and climate crisis

      @TheNightwalker247@TheNightwalker247 Жыл бұрын
    • Regenerative ag will help with that.

      @karlrovey@karlrovey Жыл бұрын
    • The EU's Common Agricultural Policy leaves fields fallow for this exact reason.

      @alanhat5252@alanhat5252 Жыл бұрын
    • Also check out dr. Elaine Ingham's Soil Food Web. As a leading microbiologist in the US she developed a compost based method to regenerate degraded soils, that can be adopted by large scale agriculture.

      @robsollart2580@robsollart2580 Жыл бұрын
  • This is what I love to see/learn. Working with nature vs against it, Efficiency, Multi-function, super beneficial. This is awesome!

    @RayneHellfire@RayneHellfire Жыл бұрын
  • A necessity! No time to lose!

    @astzfat3319@astzfat3319 Жыл бұрын
  • Well, it seems a good idea from the standpoint of natural variety, solving ecologic issues etc. But in terms of productive growth, harvesting, transportation, storage and downstream further production of food it is rather far fetched. For a local food chain, in certain seasons, with a wealthy and eco-minded consumer group it might work somewhat. So this falls into the category ‘if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is’.

    @HaErBeSo@HaErBeSo Жыл бұрын
    • The 'local food chain' could encompass an entire country like Holland within a decade or two, so could be super productive for the country,; but as ever, the difficulties of changing the mind of Big Farmer (I know!) away from efficiency and the bottom line, may well keep the plan within 'controllable' local areas. Wonder how many trees and bushes I could fit into my garden?

      @jackdawes120@jackdawes120 Жыл бұрын
    • Productive growth? Harvesting is done the same way just one gets a mixed basket not one variety only, transport is reduced because we can grow them nearby where people live in any climate. Storage? Well nature stores food just fine on the plant itself,

      @urallwyz3498@urallwyz3498 Жыл бұрын
    • Agreed. While it's a wonderful way to regenerate what we have "destroyed" the reality is, it is much more time consuming to search for a meal in a forest rather than plucking it from a cultivated row. Big food corporations and farmers may not be willing to give up their economic chain so easily. Also, to try and harvest for a global population so many more people would have to get involved in agriculture (not necessarily a bad thing per se) and create a food forest for themselves and local community. Harvests would have to be done individually, not commercially, eliminating produce sections in our grocery stores (also not a bad thing IMO). I'm all for it because I love gardening but unless we have a global catastrophe that wipes out the current social and economic structure, I don't see this happening.

      @emrsngs@emrsngs Жыл бұрын
    • Monoculture is a flaming disaster. Permaculture is another name for this. Lots of people have been doing this for years. Geoff Lawton has a lot on youtube about it. Farming in this manner requires zero external input. It works off of what nature does better than suits behind desks do. The problem with too many people is that they're incapable thinking their way through the dynamics involved in farming. They foolishly believe you toss sees on the ground and they grow then you pick. That is why centrally controlled agriculture of any sort especially the WEF version always results in abject failure and finger pointing. It's a lesson nobody seems to learn.

      @richardhawkins2248@richardhawkins224810 ай бұрын
    • @@urallwyz3498 Sure. Have you ever tried to eat a pear or apple that is still hanging on the tree in Januari?

      @quickwimnl@quickwimnl10 ай бұрын
  • I believe costs are lower but does it really yield more product? Also, isn't it way to labor intensive to harvest all fruits and vegetables? Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of improving biodiversity while at the same time growing crops and decreasing the amount of nitrogen in the soil and water. Though I'm not shure this is feasable at a larger scale. At least not in a heavily intensified agricultural industry like the Netherlands.

    @sytsevriend7933@sytsevriend7933 Жыл бұрын
    • we don't lack people... people can do meaningful jobs of collecting food in food forests... or the same people can do pseudojobs shuffling paper in an officer, while getting stressed over pretending to be really busy and important, trying to justify their position so they don't get fired... one is sustainable... one is useless...

      @LiLBitsDK@LiLBitsDK Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@LiLBitsDK I expect you to show up and do this manual labour for half a living wage lol. (Half because nobody would be able to afford the full price) Social engineering geniuses have killed millions of people in the past.

      @davidheipel2934@davidheipel2934 Жыл бұрын
    • @@LiLBitsDK Amen to that, I was about to comment the same thing.

      @TheSpongebob1919@TheSpongebob1919 Жыл бұрын
    • Right or wrong, I think this is the only alternative we have in the long run.....

      @folkeholmberg3519@folkeholmberg3519 Жыл бұрын
    • Seems to me that it’s ideal for enabling communities to source their own local food. Even if it’s not practical as a widely used way of agriculture, it would be great for smaller towns or even larger cities to support themselves by a local agricultural source. I live in Houston, Tx and I could see the farmland surrounding Houston being changed to this as a way of an almost complete source of produce. This would cut down on importing so much from other places. I’m sure there is more to this than was in this video but it seems like a good idea to me.

      @marilan3455@marilan3455 Жыл бұрын
  • I have been trying to be self sufficient for 30 years without success in Australia. My soil is poor, the tall gum trees take all the nutrients, then we have dought, then floods, then fires, then insects and animals eating everything and digging them up. However, the place looks beautiful and we have created a bird sanctuary and a pleasant place to live. The food still comes from the nearest shops.. Everywhere is different and there is no plan that works well in every place without total dedication and back breaking work from what I have seen. And even then there is no food growing naturally here. Good luck.

    @Wewillwin777@Wewillwin777 Жыл бұрын
    • Funny you should have posted this...The You Tube last vid I watched was 'A Literal Oasis - Syntropic Agroforestry at Lightening Ridge, NSW, Australia'. Found the reference to the 'literal oasis' slightly misleading, but otherwise found it very informative. Hope you find it helpful, and Good Luck to you too!

      @ceeceec9073@ceeceec90733 ай бұрын
  • Knowledge and truth are always targets for evil politicians 🤔😒🦠

    @BOBLAF88@BOBLAF88 Жыл бұрын
  • Produced by the Dutch government? Its hard to Run a tractor through a forest. There is some logistical nightmares waiting to happen.

    @vegacool1@vegacool1 Жыл бұрын
  • This is how our aboriginal ancestors tailored their landscapes to their own needs. The ‘conquerors’ of these lands did not know how to value what they conquered, believing (wrongly) that the natives were naive and unsophisticated, living like animals. They had systems for allowing certain plants that they used to thrive. Now, the real question is: can we wrest enough arable land from corporate farming interests to make this transition possible?

    @doloresreynolds8145@doloresreynolds8145 Жыл бұрын
    • You asked the right question.

      @mareknieznalski328@mareknieznalski328 Жыл бұрын
    • The right question is will it really feed the world.

      @mrsc120@mrsc120 Жыл бұрын
  • I grow healthy organic fruits and vegetables for my family. I made my own compost that feeds the soil. I also use the no dig method. The plants are full of nutrition, so we don't need to eat as much .

    @stuartwakefield1657@stuartwakefield1657 Жыл бұрын
  • Love this. Thank you for producing these wonderful videos. I am creating a 40 acre food forest in California.

    @kellerhorton@kellerhorton6 ай бұрын
    • Wonderful! Keep us posted

      @LeafofLifeWorld@LeafofLifeWorld6 ай бұрын
  • My question is: How can you harvest those forests effectivly?

    @Micha23147@Micha23147 Жыл бұрын
    • Probably the way most farms do and have always been doing and still do it by hand

      @LeafofLifeWorld@LeafofLifeWorld Жыл бұрын
    • @@LeafofLifeWorld In a modern industrial country like the Netherlands, are there sufficient numbers of people who want to farm the land (by hand, no less), or do they have to rely on migrant workers like many of the places in California? This is back-breaking labour which is why most people in North America choose to let someone else do it as long as they get their fresh lettuce in the middle of winter.

      @nowherecam2592@nowherecam2592 Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent idea & video, a Paradise Regained for the Dutch, Godspeed!

    @angelstrong792@angelstrong792 Жыл бұрын
    • Glad you enjoyed it!

      @LeafofLifeWorld@LeafofLifeWorld Жыл бұрын
  • The efficiencies of modern agriculture aren't gained from total edible products by weight per acre, but largely from specialization. Harvesting hundreds of crops from food forests and processing the products for long-term storage would require orders of magnitude more knowledge and skill than processing a single product.

    @crawkn@crawkn Жыл бұрын
  • How is harvesting done? It would seem difficult to automate it. Also it would seem that harvesting wouldn't be as seasonal but more continual. Is the by- hand labor available?

    @johntynio3416@johntynio3416 Жыл бұрын
  • Masanobu Fukuoka came up with this concept of the food forest, in the "one straw revolution" book in 1975. Then Bill Mollison adapted it into Permaculture

    @yananaidenov5171@yananaidenov5171 Жыл бұрын
    • I think schauberger was a little before. He wrote in an around the early 1900th. Of what we are dealing with.

      @kevd7664@kevd7664 Жыл бұрын
  • Long winded and vague?! Some details would be appreciated. Not against it but, just wondering where the efficiency in the model is? Great for feeding smaller groups.

    @awen777@awen777 Жыл бұрын
  • It does mean that foraging becomes an important pass-time. I need to see the calorie output per person foraging.

    @SumBrennus@SumBrennus Жыл бұрын
  • Brilliant ive been banging on about food forests and fruit nut vegetable production for years I'm glad someone has finally got something going

    @martinhoult@martinhoult7 ай бұрын
  • you might have a problem doing that in holland soon,you might want to look into the tri state city that is planned

    @jofknoll@jofknoll Жыл бұрын
    • 💯..👍

      @hedfuka8608@hedfuka8608 Жыл бұрын
  • I love the concept. It's good for those who have the luxury to hobby farm. But how does this method provide food certainty to the majority of people, who live in cities and don't have that luxury?

    @margaretvanson3601@margaretvanson3601 Жыл бұрын
    • I think the worst solution of all is: "let's do as we've allways done" That thinking doesn't belong to the future.

      @folkeholmberg3519@folkeholmberg3519 Жыл бұрын
  • wow you just looked in my head just started to gain support for food forests in my community to help all

    @johnrowland6144@johnrowland6144 Жыл бұрын
  • I am from the Netherlands. We have a fears debate for years and years about farming. This is never shown on Dutch Tv or in newspapers at All. So who is the sponsor off this plan that No One in the netherlands talks about?

    @dabbiedeejee4804@dabbiedeejee4804 Жыл бұрын
  • Again one man, one idea, held fast, can change the world. For good! Thank you for sharing. Love this, ❤

    @dmvrant@dmvrant Жыл бұрын
    • @Roots in Karst Actually Robert Hart predates within the food forest idea of Bill's expansion into Permaculture and its wider and more encompassing processes and zones, etc.

      @timbushell8640@timbushell8640 Жыл бұрын
    • not sure about men changing the world unless there is a lot of clever pr involved. Nature of humanity is way out of place and time with nature on our planet and clever men are not what we need. We need to find our way as animals who get on better with life.

      @karate4348@karate4348 Жыл бұрын
    • We have the answers. We just need the will.

      @kennethdegooyer7229@kennethdegooyer7229 Жыл бұрын
    • The Foodforest is permaculture. Permaculture needs many employees. One would therefore have to get people out of the factories and employ them in agriculture.

      @lenny108@lenny108 Жыл бұрын
  • There are plenty of examples of Permaculture operations around the world and I believe this will be the way we farm going forward. Exciting times ahead.

    @simonfredrick3029@simonfredrick3029 Жыл бұрын
    • very exciting!

      @LeafofLifeWorld@LeafofLifeWorld Жыл бұрын
    • Agreed. This is the best way to farm. We want a permaculture site one day. For now we have our small channel and our balcony of plants.

      @mountaingardening@mountaingardening Жыл бұрын
    • @@LeafofLifeWorld it was exciting 50 years ago, now it's quite mundane.

      @alanhat5252@alanhat5252 Жыл бұрын
  • The only issue I can think of is quick large scale harvesting. The tractors and machines we use today will harvest hundreds of tons of their crop super quickly compared to in that kind of forest. However, I think that's more of a technology problem, and we could develop solutions once we really look at it.

    @54m0h7@54m0h7 Жыл бұрын
    • How to harvest, that is the question.

      @garymoore7613@garymoore7613 Жыл бұрын
  • Great for the Netherlands. Stay on top

    @richardmeo2503@richardmeo2503 Жыл бұрын
  • It is nice that they are just now figuring this out. But countries in the Pacific Ocean like Palau have been growing farms in the forests for thousands of years. Should it be called "The Pacific Way"?

    @johnathanmagliari8461@johnathanmagliari8461 Жыл бұрын
    • Its not just the Pacific also the americas, asia and even Europe probably everywhere before big agri started taking over

      @LeafofLifeWorld@LeafofLifeWorld Жыл бұрын
  • I am also a Farmer, think it's a good idea. The question is how much Fruit I can sell in €, some times is isn't easy to find buyers for organic fruits, or is it just a new subvention game. And right now in Holland many conventional Farmers are on riot, because they forced to give up there kind of Farming.

    @christianlollmann9537@christianlollmann9537 Жыл бұрын
    • please send your questions to leafoflifefilms@gmail.com

      @LeafofLifeWorld@LeafofLifeWorld Жыл бұрын
    • Good to be sceptical. Need evidence not just good intentions

      @darrensussex1153@darrensussex1153 Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent news. Thanks! -- Subscribed

    @BailelaVida@BailelaVida Жыл бұрын
  • 5000 tonnes of produce from such a small plot of land?? I'm assuming that's a typo!

    @John...44...@John...44... Жыл бұрын
  • 5000 tons annually? Seriously?

    @Kamaldhillon81@Kamaldhillon81 Жыл бұрын
    • Lies !

      @hbuzdbuzdh9723@hbuzdbuzdh9723 Жыл бұрын
  • Specifics, please! This' fantasy-talk without plant names, numbers of plants yield quantities, man hours of labor, market value of crops, etc. Thanks for the attractive feel-good video.

    @c62west@c62west Жыл бұрын
    • There is a video in Dutch you can watch about specifics just such wouter van ek you find it

      @LeafofLifeWorld@LeafofLifeWorld Жыл бұрын
  • i like this guy "Wooter" ik ga stuk xD

    @Brolaf2000@Brolaf2000 Жыл бұрын
  • I'm glad he's found a specialty market in local restaurants for his produce - and I'm certain some other farmers could do the same. Can we really produce the volume need, though, if we tried to eliminate all monoculture? Or is this being thought of as a good idea for a fraction of our farming?

    @HeatherSpoonheim@HeatherSpoonheim Жыл бұрын
  • There is no way that a 1.1 acre forest produces 5,000 tonnes of fruit and nuts. I doubt it does 5,000 kg ( 5 tonnes) from the whole 2 hectares (5 acres). Magic thinking involved here.

    @auldfouter8661@auldfouter8661 Жыл бұрын
    • Magical thinking indeed. Permaculture has lots of good ideas but it is complicated to be genuine and to really produce food.

      @kenfield9485@kenfield9485 Жыл бұрын
    • More like less than 500kg

      @rogergregory5981@rogergregory5981 Жыл бұрын
    • 5000 tons....🤣😅😂

      @hedfuka8608@hedfuka8608 Жыл бұрын
  • A wonderful plan! It is so much we can learn from natu re. The idea can be applied to other sectors of the economy, architecture and planning. Elevated urbanism would free up the ground for forest farms.

    @honeycomb7502@honeycomb7502 Жыл бұрын
    • 💯 exactly

      @LeafofLifeWorld@LeafofLifeWorld Жыл бұрын
  • It appears to be a good plan at the individual level but I am not sure how well it will scale. Does it provide grain at a volume necessary to produce bread for the county or beyond? It looks as though, scaling beyond a small community level would require large amounts of man power to harvest the various crops. It doesn't seem practical at a large scale as it appears to be difficult to mechanize or automate.

    @oldgeek59@oldgeek59 Жыл бұрын
  • The main point here is that food forests as well as permaculture, organic/biological agriculture is very labour intensive. Meaning much less production per farmer. Meaning if introduced large scale you need many more farmers but also the price of food will increase substantially.

    @drsprof6295@drsprof6295 Жыл бұрын
    • yeah, where's the BEEF!

      @marychristenson3913@marychristenson3913 Жыл бұрын
    • @@marychristenson3913 you can combine food forests with grasslands/wetlands with cattle on... instead of sloppy feedlots... it won't be as intensive but the quality will be way better + healthy for the nature instead of toxic sludge knee deep on the animals

      @LiLBitsDK@LiLBitsDK Жыл бұрын
    • @@marychristenson3913 between your ears

      @theSTUNTHAMSTER@theSTUNTHAMSTER Жыл бұрын
    • What proof do you have that food forests need Alot of work? Most systems like this look after themselves as they create an ecosystem.

      @urallwyz3498@urallwyz3498 Жыл бұрын
    • Robots and genetic engineering will solve that problem

      @ericliu5491@ericliu549110 ай бұрын
  • Dutch are able bodies, genius. Nothing is impossible by Dutch.

    @soewin9784@soewin9784 Жыл бұрын
    • One day the dutch will win their long battle against the sea by making all of the atlantic dutch soil.

      @edward9674@edward9674 Жыл бұрын
  • 5000 tonnes of fruit and nuts annually on 1.1 acres? It's hard to believe that you're really producing an average of 230 lb of food per square foot every year. Also, you said he planted on 2 hectares but then said his food forest was 1.1 acres. Why?

    @korganrivera4659@korganrivera4659 Жыл бұрын
    • Good questions. It sounded outragious. 5000 ton..... That is in no way realistic. That is an industry amount. One man processing 5000 ton... no way.

      @Pilot333@Pilot333 Жыл бұрын
    • 5000 tons annually..🤣😅😂

      @hedfuka8608@hedfuka8608 Жыл бұрын
  • Fabulous, I live in Ireland and there is so much unused land in different regions and this is the most common sense idea to create food and wildlife sanctuaries .

    @vapoureyes@vapoureyes Жыл бұрын
  • It is a marvelous plan. It has been around for 000's of years but we all need to be retrained ad i for one salute Wouter van Eck !

    @lets_go_see_@lets_go_see_ Жыл бұрын
  • Trees are Refrigerators ,they cool the air around them.I discovered this during the heatwave last year ,my local woodland was a lot cooler than town.

    @larrylonesome7224@larrylonesome7224 Жыл бұрын
    • concrete and bricks store the heat... trees and shrubs block the heat... it also protects the soil from the suns rays = the soil is cool and moist instead of dry and dead... deserts have no trees to protect the soil, the soil dies and blows away... so that is why you gotta plant trees to protect the soils and yes in the start you need to protect and water the trees but in the end they will bring more water to the area and hold more water instead of it rushing into the ocean when it rains

      @LiLBitsDK@LiLBitsDK Жыл бұрын
    • When the air moves through the forrest it creates the venturi effect, in other words it is compressing and expanding as it moves through denser, and less dense forrest. A d we know that when a compressed gas expands it's temperature drops.

      @glennjames7107@glennjames7107 Жыл бұрын
  • It’s so cool that he can do something so incredible. But on a lever scale would it not be harder to harvest large amounts of the same crop?

    @lightningyonko7490@lightningyonko7490 Жыл бұрын
    • Why? Most farms already harvest fruit and vegetables by hand. Its only grain fields that use tractor.

      @LeafofLifeWorld@LeafofLifeWorld Жыл бұрын
    • Just posted a comment above which may answer your question.

      @ronamcintosh8762@ronamcintosh8762 Жыл бұрын
    • @@LeafofLifeWorld Well not only 'grain'. Almost every mono culture crop has his 'machine' to help gathering. More farming by hand. In my European country that means importing seasonal labour from poorer countries. Best add a living space with basic human facilities in the ground plan of the forest.

      @GerritDeSmedt@GerritDeSmedt Жыл бұрын
  • Sounds great for a small community. But it would clearly be labor intensive for planting and harvesting. How will it work on a large commercial scale? where will you get the labor force? Machines would clearly be of little value under such conditions so you would need to include the manpower cost to determine the overall viability for large scale farming. The bottom line is how much will the food cost in the store? Food cost are low thanks to the machines being cheaper than human labor!

    @csipawpaw7921@csipawpaw7921 Жыл бұрын
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