Granite Cutting and Drilling

The great pyramid was supposed to be built by Khufu in 25 years. Think you can quarry and cut all those rocks, transport, and then lift into place (avg 2.5 tons, up to 60 ton granite blocks) in 25 years? The logistics of such a project would require a million plus people working 24/7 (farming, to feed workers, planning, manual labor, etc.

@@freddurstedgebono6029 don't understand how this relates to the original comment. But cool

​@@freddurstedgebono6029 The vast majority of the blocks are softer limestone though

@@archinatic678 aaaaand you still cant cut each in 6 minutes average time

@@freddurstedgebono6029 I am not against the idea of some techniques or tech being used that we are unaware of these days but that's just disingenuous. 6 minutes average would be if you cut them all serial. I can use the same serial logical about every mudbrick in the mudbrick pyramids and it wouldn't make sense either.

Your ma said it to me last night. I'm joking! Sorry, not your ma really! It was begging for a 'ma' joke, is all! Peace! ✌️😎

@@5amH45lam Don't be silly, you couldn't make anyone's ma wet.

Iron was found in the pyramid of Khufu by J.R Hill in 1837, just throwing that out there. In regards to the saw, they showcased in the video, they could have easily have gotten the teeth wrong. I know from experience, a incorrect teeth set can make a job impossible even for something as soft as wood. You can look up modern masonry hand saws and see the difference in how the teeth are set, a vast chasm of time between now and then, but something curious to think about. I often wonder if the Egyptians understood mechanical advantage, with a simple pulley or block and tackle you can move a monstrous amount of weight with very few people... maybe a lot less people and labor was required. As for the precision, at least for a saw, it is possible to create wooden jigs to allow you to cut incredibly straight lines with hand tools. I guess i am of the opinion they were not hand sawing blocks and muscling them out of there but using pulleys, saw mills, jigs , and scaffolding etc.... Without some sort of manufacturing works in place there is no way they got it done, not with a mass of unskilled labor like a lot of people claim. I think they were a lot more advanced in logistics and manufacturing than we give them credit. Hell even with steel and power tools you are not getting anything done with out great organisation, logistics and manufacturing.

@@anyport8061 They were masters of logistics that is for sure.

The pyramids are not made out of blocks they are sculptures, carved from 3 hills of sandstone. The granite blocks are not granite blocks but are in fact sheets of granite.

Gunnar Cedersund yeah the douchebag said 3-5cm in a few days but he didn’t specify how many hours they worked on it. In the beginning of the video, the scientist said 4mm an hour. In 12 hours that’s almost 5cm. You can then easily cut 5 cm a day with 2 people. Using your calculation with 5cm a day (which could have been higher with better technics and more energy) 2 workers could carve 20 blocks in 20 years if I am correct. Still that’s a lot of people you need to build the mass structures found in Egypt, but with efficient work technics, good organization (with work shifts, extended working hours of the time), the technics displayed in this video makes sense. Of course I’m open for other explanations

@@anyport8061 Maybe iron was found in 1837 but that doesn't prove the iron was ancient, it could have been put in there in 1836, i bet if it was tested it would prove it wasn't ancient. Why would they bring roughly 6 million (for the 3 pyramids) blocks from 500kms away when the Giza plateau is a plateau of sandstone ? If we are to believe the b/s stories then the so-called advanced civilisation must have been the dumbest group of people ever. There were standing on sandstone and in front of them were three hills of sandstone. As long as people want to believe in fantasy theories they'll never realize the truth and the truth is staring everybody in the face. The Sphinx is carved (no-one disputes that) so why not apply the same principal to the pyramids.

The revelation of ancient secret high knowledge! We are not worthy to receive this gift!

@@textech4056 Only Americans

You people want a fancier more alien-flat-earth type answer. Reality is not interesting enough for you so you demand something with more mystery .

@@lancehobbs8012 Sorry even if Denisovans and Neanderthals try to demonstrate it. they would have amounts of copper and stone abrasion slick mud. indeed it will run viscous, left and right from the cut. it should be there visible and rose, also gleams red. no copper abrasion, in this case not any one, means fake.

@@johnwalker1553 is english your first language? You have lost me sorry mate

with slaves lol

Who said anything about easy? People weren't nearly so lazy as most are now even a few decades ago, let alone back then, lols.

they werent cutting stones for fun, they were mostly slaves doing the work. lazy or not they had to do it regardless

there is no proof of slaves being used in the pyramids, this is a masterwork, not something that a slave could do just because they have physical strength (and not that much btw) actually, there is no proof AT ALL of the building of the pyramids being done by the egyptians, no records of it being done, no description of the construction, and we're talking about the egyptians, people who used their writting system to write a lot of things, and they wouldn't do a single refference to it anywhere? even the sphinx has one, about it's restoration, so, why the fucking pyramids don't have anything?

The pyramids are not made of granite. Just limestone. I ve been to egypt recently and while the pyramids are very impressive... The black granite tumbs are super impressive.. They are flush cut and super straight. The whals inside the pyramids are also impressive but you can actually see marks of chisel. To be honest, nothing in egypt really looks the same, different techniques, different stones... Different ages.

denver mason : Your argument is unbelievably STUPID!!! That's like saying, "Because I can't run a marathon, nobody else can". The people in this demonstration don't do this type of cutting for a living. They're not trained, and they don't have the muscles to do this type of work. In ancient Egypt they would have been very skilled. And, it's quite possible they would have worked in teams. When one set of people were tired, a fresh set would replace them.

What argument is STUPID!!!?

kab kab theyre not trained? One studies these techniques for a living and the other says hes been using water with sand for 25 years.... they know more than the egyptians in general. Nevertheless, the point still stands: They were either around for a lot longer than people thought (and so had time to do this), They were more advanced than we think, They had a much larger population (so more work force to build these monuments), Aliens. There are other hypothesis, but in the current acknowledged time frame they had to build everything, and their population size, they would not have been able to do it. The exact man hours required to build the pyramids with these methods (excluding lifting the stones) has been calculated, and it exceeds the egyptians "life time". This is a big question nowadays, since new methods for the construction of these monuments are suggested every year, archeologists take into account how long it would take considering the methods employed.

Someone claim authority because they do something for a living is not necessarily a good thing. The question as to whether the truth is paramount rather than the making of the living must be answered and truthfully it has consistently been shown the answer is money first.

denver mason wth are you talking about???

4mm in 1h it's roughly 80 cm in 8 days, if they took 8 days to cut a block, let's imagine they had 50000 workers and the great pyramid has more then 2 milion blocks then each guy would need to cut 40 blocks, they are pars so its 80 blocks, that would be 53 years of NONSTOP cutting just to cut the 2 milion blocks, u have to level them and place them. Complete non sense

@@whosthevictim367 these are amateurs doing an experiment. Not professional teams of Egyptian workers with generations of experience. Only the outer blocks and the inner chambers are cut blocks the filling are rough cut rubble you can see it in the pictures of the pyramids. 20 years and 20,000 to 30,000 men is what is believed to be the numbers.

Strange how they did not know this basic knowledge, they formed an opinion that was wrong and did not admit it

@@pranays mate, the entire pyramid is made of Cut blocks, Leveled blocks and each one around 1 to 3 tons, Kings chamber blocks are 500 tons and are from 500km away, the need to have cut those 500 blocks, Level them, and take them from the quarry 500km away and they didnt even used the wheel, try to scratch a window glass or any glass with your nails, go on ill wait, done it? u cant right? that's because the glass is harder then your nails, you cant scratch things with a softer thing, now imagine cuting those blocks that are lvl 6 to 8 in the mohs scale with copper lvl 3, It does not work like that, you guys type like you know anything but your only speculating on things with 0 knowledge on what you are speculating about

​@@whosthevictim367 well they use wet send as the cutting agent. The copper is moving them around. Copper is soft metal and somehow works better than iron which is harder. There is some science behind it though. In India they use both chisels for cutting stone. They use it different times. It seems to me that copper is used with sand.

I dont get it.

@@yonker1219 I get it, but not in the context of this video ;) It sounds to me like the OP thinks the mainstream is blinded by the illusion of knowledge and instead of testing rational hypotheses they should put more time into search for Atlantis and lost civilization who built the pyramids and evaporated without a trace ;)

@@pavel9652 now you make it even more confusing

You're talking about Hancock the nazi clown right?

This. If these displayed this technique to the ancient Egyptian laborers and engineers thousands of years ago they would concur with the principle but shake their head on the method.

@@insanetrickster Like the one guy said, "By the time we finished the 10th sarcophagus, we'd know the answer" I'm amazed how the Egyptians managed to do it at all!

Right? I doubt a operation as big as a pyramid that had a entire nation of people working on it was doing tiny ineffective procedures like that. They wouldn't have used a tiny saw, weighted down by tiny stones, with a dude fetching water and sad using a small vessel. They would have had a giant saw, using high weights, the best possible sand, a wooden contraption to guide the cuts probably doing 2 cuts a time, probably with purposefully made channels to bring water, probably some simple machines, and with big teams of people.

that's a neat idea and seems a bit less tedious.. at least for those big blocks and "saw marks"

Those masons would have mastered these skills perfected the process

You can also use copper, stone or timber shims aswell. Why do you shadow ban anyone who even mentions these techniques in your comments section, these methods have well and truly been demonstrated. You censor your channel to keep the echoe chamber alive, it's very misleading. kzhead.info/sun/ltWOcs6Cm6uqqoU/bejne.html .kzhead.info/sun/gNVre6uJmJycdKc/bejne.html

Low IQ comment The test is the saw not the chisel. They could have used a jig to do the same thing. You rascist Conman

Hey look, proof that you have watched the videos that completely debunk your claims, yet you continue to push them. Knocking that core out could be done with any kind of wedge. Even jamming another piece of rock in there would work. If you need to reach that hard to find something to criticize in this video, it must be pretty damning. What's next, are you going to call them out for using a plastic bottle to pour the water?

@@hydra70 lol why are you refusing to address the fact that they could not in fact do the task with only bronze tools in their own demonstration of bronze tools?

@@scoobihu1090 Are you saying it is impossible to wedge an already cut stone core without steel? Are you really that stupid, or are you just trolling me?

You know the new kingdom was iron age right? Egypt lasted from stone age through the iron age. Also flint and other stones can be used to chisel stone. Like cuts like.

That giant obelisk weights 1000 ton. We need a large special advanced ''truck'' to be able to carry a 400 ton stone. It just makes no sense.

Golden Darkness070 We have cut and transported stones for thousands of years it is nothing new. The largest stone known to be moved by man was done so fairly recently in the late 1700s it weighed 1500 tonne the thunderstone. Humans are awesome. Peace!

+MrSoothingjazz Unfinished obelisk was made not by cutting but by pounding of stone tools. It's slow but it works.

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You need to look at log hewing if you think you can't cut wood without modern engineered kit. Europeans have been hewing trees into beams with nothing but some strings and a hatchet. You either a) have no legitimate experience with tradition wood working and the results possible with simple tools and time; thus trying to imply inordinate difficulty to ratify your claims about stonework becomes irrelevant. Or you have experience with traditional wood working and the possible results, but you are intentionally lying about them to ratify your claims about stonework. In other words, you're either ignorant or a liar. Either way, you expose your lack of credibility to speak about the matter, and are not to be taken seriously.

I agree. They seem to think they have reached some sort of conclusion that this was the method used. Let's see them make a 100 ton box out of andesite with the same tools.

Pyramids are not made out of granite.

@@tiefensucht ....the 100 ton boxes inside the Serapeum are though.

um yes @LiveOakOkie

Same with machu pichu, ballbeck, Petra, and probably Angkor watt. Same people that built Atlantis in Mauritania

@@SgtJoeSmith Are you aware that there is no evidence of this supposed civilization you are talking about, right?

@@MrAchile13 you mean other than these structures they built around the world and skeletons dating 40,000 years ago right?

@@SgtJoeSmith 1) to say that the pyramids exist because of a highly advanced civilization and that a highly advanced civilization is proven by the existence of the pyramids is a cyclical argument and therefore not valid 2) the existence of human bones does not prove the existence of a highly advanced civilization What's the point?

Almost blocks of Pyramids are made of Limestone not granit?! Wat due you mean?

And that 20 years is only another theory.

many of the stones that were on the outside of the pyramid and have now fallen of are granite, and the ones inside the pyramids making the halls are granite. but even with limestone it could not be done using this method. not even in a 100 years.

They used water towers and carbide sand pressure in a water jet...copper plumbing

nah... they didn't.

They are just concerned with polishing their EGOS

@@BarefootViking and this disproves that granite can be cut by copper age technology, how?

They do except after he proves it. That's called science low IQ clown. The use his numbers for the final calculation. Did you even watch the video before commenting?

@@BarefootViking nice projection

@@censorduck you are right it doesn't disprove the video at all. they are just low IQ rascists making fake argument without watching the video first. So it must be white ubermench from Atlantis or mars or which ever nazi Thule society Mythology they believe today

They were cut to a small depth to the shape of a block and then wedges were tapped into the cut groove, water was poured over tge wedges to which they expanded and split the stone into its scribed cut shape. The wedges split the stone.

@@davidcorbett1713 20yrs just to buy the granite, then add to that the limestone, construction and planning - possible but would take generations (even though no good explanation is given how they placed all the bricks

They’re four guys trying something out as a test for a proof of concept. Take a family line of craftsman, give them a few generations to optimize their tools and techniques, and you’d have a much better output than what we see here using the same technique.

Spot on !! Why isn't this the top comment? I believe that diamond tip tools were used for chiseling

@@SF-li9kh Uhm.. diamond tipped chisels? No.. Diamond is hard, but very brittle. It can withstand lots and lots of pressure, and for grinding it is excellent. But for chisels intended for stone, it would be a waste.

Dude! They had TWO THOUSAND YEARS to build all of Ancient Egypt. Also... you can have more than one drill team (etc) working at the same time. Academia are very passionate about the people of the past. If you actually READ archeology you would know this.

"There's LOTS of granite work that required chisels - and it was experimentally proven that it couldn't be made from bronze or copper." No problem. A good, river-polished round stone is at least as hard as the material it is working on and is the right rounded shape to handle many impacts.

@@SF-li9kh One or two hits and the diamond is in pieces. Modern hard metal tools use silicon carbide or tungsten carbide powder cemented with a metal that is soft but tough and ductile like cobalt. The cobalt wears away, exposing only the hard grains of carbide to the impact. The small carbide crystals do not need to flex and bend, because they cobalt cementing it toghether can do this; you get amazing wear resistance. This is absolutely not necessary. Just some round, crack free river stones of a material at least as good as the stone you are working will slowly and steadily wear away at the rock.

Yeah and do one of those granite and basalt Serapuem boxes with a lid, both cut out of 200 ton solid blocks, with sides so smooth that one can see a reflection in it.

Highfive!

Karen P exactly thank you

@@G0rdonFr33man And while you're at it, do it in the middle of the fookin desert.

Also using tools that have actually been found 👍

Peter Gambier stated: _"the guestimated time of 20 years for the Great pyramids build time using the bronze chisels, saws and the bow/string methods would have taken a lot longer to have done the work."_ You cannot possibly validate such a claim unless you knew all the exact techniques and the total number of men that were working on it.

zdcyclops1 I'm not sure why everyone always jumps to "aliens did it". Many people think humans built them, just with much more advanced technology. Meaning, we are not the smartest civilization to ever have existed.

And yet this advanced civilization vanished without a single trace of their life or tools? Only recently actual proofs of the theories for stone henge and easter islands have been successfully demonstrated, putting an end to their magical conspiracy theories. I hope with our lifetime the pyramids will be solved with proof.

@@SF-li9khAgain you are full of shit. Nothing at Stone Henge has been proven. Hughe sarsen stones that are 7/10 on Mohs scale were supposedly cut by a bronze age culture. Hardness of copper and bronze is 3/10 on the same scale. Same with Easter island blocks. You just don't know what the fuck you are talking about. I'd be embarrassed to be you.

@@G0rdonFr33man Do you not understand what abrasive sawing is? The copper is not doing the cutting. Quartz, corundum, emery or even diamond, these are all abrasives which are used in conjunction with bronze or copper saws or drills and have been used for thousands of years. The chinese favored bronze wire abrasive saws and emery for their jade work. Peace!

Thank you for that great comment, but I'm still uncertain what to rate this video.

scientists should not be afraid to show failed experiments because we can learn from failures as well

I think this does prove that abrasive cutting is the way they did it. Maybe not exactly as in this video. I imagine a complex wodden frame holding the saw perfectly level. It is not at all hard to believe because today, massive, MASSIVE granite rocks are cut easily and very smoothly using a diamond wire saw that uses abrasive sawing as its working principle.

i don't know.. I think this is quite convincing if you think of the number of workers they would have had at their disposal

I don't know how you came to this conclusion?

Yeah they were in a hurry, because according to Egyptology they built each one of the pyramids in 20 years. Laughable. They could have been experts, but you are a dilettante.

You don't know what the hell you are talking about if you are cutting a 7/10 granite on Moh's scale with 3/10 copper. Just another youtuber commenting out of their ass.

In addition to what Drop said, they made the pyramids out of much softer limestone (hardness 3-4). The particular technology depicted here was used for smaller finer stuff like sarcophagi made of granite (hardness 6-7). I see no inconsistency.

@@G0rdonFr33man The copper is not doing the cutting, the Quarts aggregate is.

This is an absolute joke, they would also need 100+ copper saws to cut 1 meter because the material is cut both ways.

Agreed. this video never said that the ancients did it with these exact tools. it just shows that we haven't considered all the ways primitive people could have done something, the weight of the tube/saw, its shape at the cutting end/edge, the type of grit they use, the speed which they could do it, etc, etc would effect the finished look. I would really like some reports on analysis of the sand below ground that got covered up over the years to see if there is an overabundance of materials that might indicate the grit or tools used as the particles fell off the tools and stones. High copper particles would indicate copper tools and unaturally high particles of large quartz might indicate both sawing and quartz grit, etc, etc..

Wouldn't we find evidence of a harder substance within these monuments, embedded in the surfaces of the cuts?

The majority of the interior of the Stone boxes were hollowed out by cross sectional tube drilling,we know this as there are still tube drill marks present. the interior would have been shaped using a variety of bronze alloy chisels and then rubbing stones along with different grades of Aggregate for polishing.

What we don't know is exactly what the tube drill was made of and the aggregate employed eg Quartz, Emery or even diamond. We also can't be sure how the shaft was powered, we know they didn't use combustion engines or any power tools which only leaves man power, weights, pulleys, ropes, water or animals

Not the ones I have seen. They are as smooth as the outside.

@@tomburton1037 Surely you have studied the sarcophagus in the kings chamber at Giza.Tool marks on the inside of the granite Sarcophagus in the King's Chamber indicate that when the granite was hollowed out, preliminary roughing cuts were made by drilling holes into the granite around the area which was to be removed. These drill holes were made with tube-drills, which left a central core that had to be knocked away after the hole had been cut. After all the holes had been drilled, and all the cores removed, the Sarcophagus was then handworked to its desired dimension. The machinists on this particular piece of granite once again let their tools get the better of them, and the resulting errors are still to be found on the inside of the coffer in the King's Chamber:

Didn't see that one but I was fortunate to see the boxes at the Serapeum of Saqqara. The ones you could actually look into were as smooth and precision as the outside.

Genius!

Best idea all day!

@@kaptkrunchfpv This comment wins

I knew I would find an answer that makes me laugh. HA!

The copper tube was made into a granite hole, witch was also made from a copper tube, and so on .....

Once they have done that, They should cut 2.3 million stones. Then they should invent a time machine and go back to 4500BC. Then become a pharaoh. Then hire 40000 workers. Then actually build a pyramid. Then record a video and travel back to 2018 AD. Then come over to your house. Then show you the video. When you claim the video is doctored, take you also back to 4500 BC. Then build another frikkin pyramid to prove it to you. All these tasks have to be done to satisfy you. How about you try to cast a copper tube using primitive methods yourself and then we'll decide if that was NOT the case. Until then copper tube drilling is the way they did it

@@SF-li9kh The burden of proof ays not with us bu with Egyptology, which provided no answer, but bullshit stories no one buys. When Egyptologists like Vyse were blowing up stuff in egypt with dynamite and pushing a colonialist narrative, I didn't see you holding a candle. Any true person of science sees the Egyptology for what it is - a pseudo-science like astrology...

@@G0rdonFr33man Have you seen the bronze statues? A tube would have been simple to cast.

@@MrRecklessryan Copper doesn't cut granite, not remotely close.

bigbluntt Hi: I begin my response by saying: "I am a human being. I cannot run a marathon therefore no human can run, or ever has ran a marathon." Obviously the above statement is false. One reason why it is false is because it overlooks "skill". Just like I'm not skilled in running a marathon, the people in the video are not skilled in cutting stones this way. Not even Roger Baker who is a stonemason cuts stones this way in his professional life. As a result, his muscles are not developed, nor his techniques refined to do the work this way. Also, if only three people worked on the cut, I might agree with you. Thousands of people worked on the pyramid and as one group of people got tired of cutting, simply replace them with a fresh group. Plus, granite stones in the pyramid represents less than 1.6 % of the amount of the stone blocks in Khufu's pyramid by mass. They're simply not that many to cut and they had a couple of years to do it. I have to agree the video is poorly documented, but I guess it's purpose was to demonstrate the basic technique. At the beginning of the video Dennis Stocks does mention cut rates of 4 millimeter per hour were obtainable, but he doesn't state how that was determined.

@@catman8965 Clear and well articulated. Nice!

MrAchile13 Thanks. I may not know how Egyptians did things in the past, but there is one thing I'm sure of, "They were experts with sand". Best Wishes

Yes he is a Showmaster, running a Sitcom.

with 100,000 slaves and 20 years they had more than enough time. I'm sure they perfected their primitive techniques doing it all day everyday also.

@@cliffbrowning84 i heard it was 500 000 slaves you moron

I heard it was no slaves. it was workers. The only problem is according to papyrus Westcar Khufu was short of funds. No Problem if Mark Lehner comes to Egypt, he was looking for Atlantis and had no money too. just at this epic moment, the Edgar Cayce Foundation was helping him out.

I think it’s completely impracticle and it’s already been explained that if they built the pyramids in 20 years they would have had to cut, move and place a block in position every 2 and a half minutes which gets harder and harder the higher they get. Also cutting the blocks isn’t half as crazy as being able to encode pi, phi and the fibanacci sequence in to the structure itself also the fact that it’s actually eight sided as the face dents inwards and on the solstice you see the face split in half one side in light and one in shade to mark the solstice. Also it has the dimensions of our planet encoded in its structure too so whoever built it knew the earth was round and were able to measure its size. I think also when you look at the walls of sacsyhuaman in Peru as well it’s very clear that they were obviously much smarter and more well equipped to construct such structures

Also it points directly to true north and is place in the center of the earth

U need to take a lesson on metallurgy Bronze casting was perfected ages ago this was a piece of cake they made even more intricate bronze and copper object

For even more laughs, let's see them try to recreate the pristine, perfectly joined, smooth and multi-angular megalithic stones in Peru (ascribed to the Inca but clearly predating them and obviously distinct from their style of construction). View from the start for comparison, but what I'm talking about appears at 4:30: kzhead.info/sun/m5icorWFq2p5las/bejne.html

Lamebubblesflysohigh ... They were explaining cutting, Polishing is something else.. and yes some of those methods of planing leave striations too.

I highly doubt the pyramids were I learnt as you go process these things have been planned precisely from the beginning

Bingo

your missing that this are the older pyramids and the most recent ones are made of mud bricks and are mostly gone or basicly destroyed , by your statement the most recent ones should be even better then the older ones. 4mm in 1h it's roughly 80 cm in 8 days, if they took 8 days to cut a block, let's imagine they had 50000 workers and the great pyramid has more then 2 milion blocks then each guy would need to cut 40 blocks, they are pars so its 80 blocks, that would be 53 years of NONSTOP cutting just to cut the 2 milion blocks, u have to level them and place them. Complete non sense

@@whosthevictim367 The principle of the learning curve is that if the experimental archaeologists who have no experience of getting it right, can manage 4mm in one hour, experienced Egyptians would manage a lot faster as they would be higher up the learning curve. In terms of the second point you make; What dates do you attribute to the better made pyramids, and what dates do you attribute to the less well made pyramids?

@@simonthorneycroft1339 i dont atribute ages to them, mainstream midia does. you can not date rocks mate, there is no Hieroglyph's telling how or when or who build the pyramids, you would expect to find writen texts about the construction of the pyramids but there is none. they dated the pyramids from organic matter found around them, but i can drop an apple in front of your house and that does not mean that your house it's as old as the apple. They are aligned with the constelation, and the last time that constelation was in that spot was roughly 12000 years ago. You have to understand and grasp something, If you were alive in those times, how would you tell the future generations what year was when you built those things? jesus was not born yet so you dont have the 2023 counting years, so how would you tell the future generations the year that you build them? you had to use the stars, you had to align them with the stars because it's the only thing that will " record " the time, future generation can look up and understand when you built because constelations are a cosmic clock.

@@simonthorneycroft1339 and you are trying to dodge the question, if your learning curve opinion is correct, then why do the older pyramids are the greater ones and the most recent pyramids are the worst and weaker and not well done at all? shouldnt the most recent ones be the better? the greatest? if the learning curve was a fact then Why does the older pyramids are better? dont dodge the question

.....yup it's one thing just cutting a straight edge but it is another thing entirely cutting a straight edge inside a one piece box.......this guy is a charlatan.

Take your meds

@@decem_sagittae Too much for your tiny brain. Go play fortnite

Because you're a rascist and a blind liar?

@@blaze1148 nice projection clown. You soft handed simpleton. Use the drill cut out a bunch of connected holes once it is hollow smooth the side with sanding stones. This is grade 8 wood working class level stuff you morons can't figure out. That's how dumb your racism makes you look.

Put a layer of clay and 2 wooden planks. And slide the saw between the planks!

@@legotechnictrains8999 thx

Assuming 10 thousand workers (which is several times fewer than there was, but let's be pessimistic), that's 5 stones a year for each worker. Astronomical!

@@petros_adamopoulos 5 stones a year using bronze chisels... good luck on that. You can't employ the stonecutting techniques the Scottish use with bronze chisels. You know what physically happens? You go through bronze chisels and the stones absorb the shock. Moh's Hardness scale would not be your friend. 4mm an hour (demonstrated in video) , average dimensions are 127 x 127 x 71cm (6 sides) that's 1625 hours to complete one stone without any polishing work or fitting, thats 162.5 10 hour work days. Thats 2.2 stones a year per worker if they can manage the feat of doing it by themselves. Additionally the mainstream claim is 23 years as Khufu reigned from 2551 to 2528 BCE. So the time has been cut in several ways. The technology as explained for cutting the stone is wrong.

@@samueldavila2156 people were never that stupid. If they regarded their pharao godly then surely he would have found a better way to do it. We simply "explain" everything with religious zealotry when we fail to have another logical explanation. Somehow people back then seem to only knew graves and temples and never built anything else or what ? Also for a grave the pyramid lacks decoration and wallpainting. Every other pharao grave has hieroglyphs all over and if it wasnt robbed alot of treasury as well. The great pyramid has none of both. Doesnt add up.

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Stosh Y As I’m sure they did. Its not like they had much else to do between greys Anotomy episodes.

@@yopappy6599 farming

When you have an army of slaves finding people to push a saw back and forth 24/7 is pretty easy. Especially when its cut the stone or die. So get a few thousand slaves and have at er!

@@PerrinPansy Since they got about 4 inch in just a few days, and the stone is 50 inch thick. One cut would then take two persons only 2 weeks or so. Since you need a coupple of million stones for one pyramid thebcutting would then take 2 men only 75.000 years in round numbers. Man the saws.

@@Thestripper1 I was ready to call you out on the couple million bricks and then I googled it.. damn about 2.3 million of them used. I guess a far more efficient way had to have been used.

The video left a lot to be desired. The question of wear on the copper saw was not considered or measured in the video. The before-sawing and after-sawing weight of the copper blade (without the weights and handles on the ends of the copper blade) should have been measured and reported. My guess is that a substantial amount of the copper blade was worn away as you suggest.

Well the layman isn't going to be as good as a skilled professional. Experience and more skill is all that is needed. This was their 1st attempt.

@@swirvinbirds1971 LMAO!

@@yosefyahu4778 What's so funny? Any craftsman is not going to master it on their 1st attempt. What it does show is a couple people can cut granite with a copper tool, sand and water and the markings match the cutmarking in the stones.

@@swirvinbirds1971 there is absolutely no way that the methods shown in the video can accomplish near perfect symmetry and right angles of 300+ ton blocks, statues and obelisks! kzhead.info/sun/m5qBYZeFoGiBl6s/bejne.html - kzhead.info/sun/aa-OdNlsZ3R5aKc/bejne.html - kzhead.info/sun/jL5_fpZxfZZ5gGg/bejne.html

@@yosefyahu4778 why? Because you said so? 😆 What is the link for? You do realize we have Egyptian documents of the Construction of the Great Pyramid right? www.livescience.com/55439-ancient-logbook-on-great-pyramid-unveiled.html

@Ian Duke I meant water powered as in using moving water to drive the machinery e.g. a water wheel driving the spinning blade. Not directly cutting with the water like a modern water-jet cutter. Of course there are other ways to spin saw blades, workers walking in a wheel, dropping weights, animals...

@Ian Duke Pure speculation on my part. Just trying to think of how they would have powered such a system. It's obvious they had some sort of method for powering the saw to relatively high speed just by the cut marks.

how about a sand powered saw, sand falling onto a wheel

Assuming the egyptians built them which is in debate, they had irrigation pump designs so a Geared water wheel driving a circular saw with continual water and sand feed system isnt beyond the realms of possibility, plus it could be left running 24/7 to cut with minimal manpower, awesome accuracy and faster results

@@mowburnt Electricity aswell ?!? Using some kind of alchemical hydrogen pressure chambers. If there is any place i could imagine a bright white ship in the sky hovering above a pristine pyramids night sky it would have to be there- it almost seems meant.Or not.

They could have used a wood jig like in other tests. Low IQ clown

Perhaps I don't know. . . Sandpaper? Its also how they likely smoothed the granite blocks to an almost level finish too

@@kkkkk12122323232 - that's a lot of diamond paper for granite. Regular sandpaper is worthless for that application.

Sandpaper bro.. really?

@@kkkkk12122323232 Sandpaper😂😂😂

saw and then chisel?

I think the main decider for me is the fact there's documentation of them using core drills on wood but no documentation on anything to do with cutting stone or building the pyramids surely this is a much greater achievement than drilling wood?

@@gavinhammonds3440an we literally have thousands of unfinished stones in egyptian quarries, and even AN ENTIRE UNFINISHED OBELISC

@@roccopiosaracino3681 and does that imply it was the Egyptians who did that?

@@AustinKoleCarlisle no, but it implies that they could do that, and since we don't have evidence of other civilizations living in egypt at the time they are the best candidates

@@roccopiosaracino3681 i don't see how it implies the Egyptians did it just because they are the most recent occupiers of said land.

Get a hard stone, cover it with a light abrasive with some mud, and then use a wood hammer with said rock to fine detail surfaces.

alright now go do MILLIONS of perfectly cut stones. its literally imposible on a time scale. slaves eh? rotating continental shifts of just straight up cutting stones for their whole life? then stacking the stones in perfect order. it answers one aspect of a million problem question

​@@sxyqt3.14 Nope. Still not aliens.

making round things is very easy, you can take a square and put in some dirt; shake it left and right, and itll make you a circle fill that whole with charcoal, clay, or bronze and youll make yourself a circle. you can sand it to make it better. repeat the process and then youll get a better circle each time

And there were thick layers of sea salt on the insides of the pyramids that were hastily excavated before anyone could see.

Atlanteans actually seem to be the most reasonable theory/guess at this point.

Because it is a religion. They have not formed their opinions on evidence.

pyramids are mostly built of limestone, not granite. only very small parts are made of granite. and there are tens of thousands of people working on pyramids, not just handful.

Why are you using volume in this calculation? You need to use cutting length. Your calculation might be somewhat accurate if you were trying to find out how long it would take to saw the entire 5x5x5 block into dust one layer at a time. Assuming the top is already exposed, so you don't have to cut out the top surface, cutting a 5ftx5ftx5ft cube would take five cuts of 5ft each. At a rate of 0.4 cm/hr (0.16 in/hr), that would take 78 days.

They conveniently ignore just how much copper is abraded into dust, sand abrades the copper at an astonishing rate.

@@methylene5 no it doesn't. coper is ductile, it just gets blunt but doesn't lose material.

@@swunt10 Oh yeah? Test it. Rub a penny on some wet sand on any hard surface, then get back to me. The copper will abrade regardless of ductility.

@@methylene5 yes if you rub it against a hard surface. but if you rub it against sand not much will happen since the sand will not strip the ductile copper off.

molding and melting metal is a very ancient skill that was very much a practice during that time...

Surely you have seen ny the bronze statues? A simple cylinder would have been childs play.

Copper can be easily hammered into a flat sheet. Roll a sheet around a pole and you get a tube.

They would of made large flat sheets of copper or brass and rolled them into shape and sealed them

By making a flat sheet of it (which is super easy) then rolling it around a rod shaped object (probably of wood) until the edges meet (no need to seal that gap incidentally). that is why Anvils have always had a horn on it, for example.

Granite.

This video does prove that you only need copper and sand to cut granite. Also the pyramids were made of limestone, less than 1% was made of granite.

Actually, this video shows how to use simple, fairly obvious copper tools to create the cuts you see in ancient egypt. If you can't imagine these simple processes being honed and perfected over years to more efficient than they show in this first attempt, you lack imagination. Not every block's face in the pyramids was saw cut, some are split and faced with chisels.

Matthew Chin this process is retarded. The Egyptians never did or would have used it. Too slow. They were way more efficient and clever. Point is, no one knows. No one will know how they did it. You know why? Because they didn’t. The pyramids and the Sphinx are waaaaaaayyyy older than the Egyptian civilization. Funny how they recorded everything they did, and yet no inscriptions on the Sphinx or pyramids, and no scrolls or texts mentioning it or them at all... Seti the first had to uncover the Sphinx in order to remodel it. You’re kidding yourself if you credit the Egyptians for their construction. There’s no eveidence for that at all.

@@jesterboykins2899 This demonstration was three guys spending a couple days to cobble together a proof of concept model for how it was done. If you gave me two months to perfect the water delivery system thru the center of the tube, and a greased wooden bushing to hold it on top, I'd have that copper tube thing cutting 4 inches depth per shift in granite. If you can't imagine that, you're unqualified to comment about basic stone cutting technology.

@@matthewchin6454 I wish more people understood that. This is clear proof that it was possible with what they had and people still wanna say its some "lost ancient technology". No. Its a shit load of people with a shit load of time on their hands to perfect this stuff. People watch too much Graham Hancock.

Then how did they polished the inside of the 100 tones granite sarcophagus in Serapeum of Saqqara ? What is your bet on that

well you could just do it with 2 blocks right? youve cut 2 blocks that both need smoothed, stack them on top of each other with sand between them and move the top one around to polish both of them at the same time. if you did it with the blocks that were going side by side into a wall im sure you could get those really tight fits too.

@@ladoznalec I don't know how they did that. Great question I would love to know the answer to.

@@necaacen Makes a lot of sense. I've thought about that in the making of these stone walls with irregular shaped blocks that have delicate corners that fit perfectly. I think you could be correct and the people making these walls spent a lot of time and effort sliding, and even twisting, each subsequent block for a long time with sand, and with some serious mechanical effort, maybe using long wooden levers attatched to the "knobs", that's how it was done. I imagine people spending days and weeks pushing long wooden poles like oars back and forth to place each stone.

As Carl Sagan would have said: "millions and billions" (of man-hours).

@@SunRabbit 20 year 20,000 to 30,000 men to build the great pyramid. Carl Sagan would call you a moron

@@pranays Unlike Sagan, I've actually been inside the Great Pyramid and if you think you could find that many man-years in a country that had a population of at most, 500,000 people then I'm sure he'd call you a moron too.

Yes all they could dream off was a pyramid with the mass off 6.000.000 Tons, that seems exiting to build guys. Lets go! Look at the Osirion "temple" granite blocks 8x8x12 feet. Weighing up to 67 Tons and there are alot of them on that site. Also look at the presision. Those things are perfekt. For one cut you would need 900 hrs of cutting,which are 22,5 40hour weeks, 5,6 Months. FOR ONE SIDE. Lets not talk about moving them. You seem like a smart guy, at least your username is trying to resemble that. So maybe if you are interested, start looking into this. There is no scientific proof that the egyptians built the pyramids. Wouldnt they engrave that in stone ? And there are alot of "temples" all over the world which cant be explained. The question is why they dont admit that they are wrong. That there are erosion marks at the sphinx. That below the pyramids where tunnels connecting them probably, there is almost nothing about this in mainstream media. Theres so much stuff you could talk about. But if you follow a theory that someone assembled roughly a centuries ago, and built upon itup to this day, you start making no sence. Egyptologists like Zahi Hawass are a proof of concept. Just take a look at this video and how the former Minister of State for Antiquities Affairs of Egypt handles that brisant situation. Also look at the security guys blocking him, they fail at the end. kzhead.info/sun/a76ipZaxnneVips/bejne.html Have a nice day Greetings from Germany PS Göbekli Tepe

Lol...tell that to the people that lives on the amazon jungle.

Apis Hathor learn how to spell if you're going to make big claims. Doesn't make you look intelligent either. Plus it's very possible that built them. We can't know what they were capable of or how great their level of craftsmanship was. They were probably Master builders. And from what I heard people think these were actually built 12 thousand years ago and there were better tools and civilization back then but then they were all wiped out by some Mass Extinction. Whether it was a flood or meteor. It's not too hard to believe that there at one point could have been greater tools at one point. Look what we've achieved in just the last 500 years and especially in the last 100. You might say that cuz we had a few thousand years of other advancements that taught us to get there. But that's way less time than 10 thousand years or more. What you're saying sounds a bit conspiracy theoryish. And the burden of proof is upon you. Where, the stuff I stated is some people's theories, a lot of it is based on actual carbon dating.

David Norris - Hello Mr Pot, you’ve obviously met Mr Black! If you’re going to criticise the English grammar or syntax of somebody, at least proof read your piece first!

You COULD use transistor radios to make the internet, but it would be so huge that it would be the 7th wonder of the world.... lol see what I did there?

Or like Sputnik1 and the moon landing prior to even Commodore 64 level of technology? Unless you think that's all a conspiracy too..

It's usually chemtrails.

How do we know they had better techniques if we are completely unaware of such techniques? You my friend, are a fanatic.

Its because they weren't vaccinated

@@TheTravellingScotsman right? How do you lift heavy blocks? Fairy dust

@@TheTravellingScotsman wow bub I was completely joking. You're a douche

@bigAssGooseberrydich agree w ur comment lmao

Copper and granite sand the handle is wood and a weight.

Its amazing how wrong you can be in such a short paragraph.

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Is that you Joe?

what carvings?

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I think the vase are the most impressive www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/124271270947306452/

They used man power and made there own rocks which repled the other rock makeing things easier

@@justinc.morgan6682 bullshit

Stefan T facts

@@MsLemon42 The granite used in the great pyramid was transported over 500 miles to the construction site, tard..

@@rodrigeznonames7353 Granite was only used sparingly in the grand gallery and the kings chamber. GP is however constructed of majority limstone which is why the Egyptians decided to build on a Limestone quarry.