Making Dry Ice from scratch

2024 ж. 14 Мам.
1 493 156 Рет қаралды

In this video, I'm going to show how to make dry ice (frozen CO2) from scratch. I thought using dry ice to pre-cool my pulse tube cryocooler might help me get lower temperatures, since dry ice is -79C, and adding my pulse tube's ~100C temperature drop on top of that could get me very close to liquid nitrogen temperatures. But instead of just buying dry ice, I wanted to see if it was feasible to make it myself, so I went through the steps of producing, cooling/compressing, and discharging the CO2
as liquid to form ice.
There are several ways to produce CO2 - a few of these are:
-Reacting acid with baking soda
-Cooling and collecting exhaust from combustion of hydrocarbons
-Capturing exhaust from yeast as it consumes sugar
-Capturing human breath
-Dissolving atmospheric CO2 in water and extracting it under vacuum
-Reacting atmospheric CO2 with Calcium Hydroxide, creating Calcium Carbonate, then decomposing the Calcium Carbonate to release CO2 and Calcium Oxide. The Calcium Oxide is later regenerated back into Calcium Hydroxide with sodium hydroxide.
Once the CO2 is captured, it has to be stored. In theory, large gas bags could be used, but that's not very practical, so i used a fridge compressor to force the captured gas into a compressed air tank at ~160 PSI (about 12 bar). Using a 10 gallon (38L) tank, i stored approximately 1.8 lb (0.82kg) of CO2 gas.
However, to freeze CO2, it first has to be liquified by either high pressure, very low temperatues, or both. To liquify at room temperature around 25C requires about 60 bar of pressure (~867 psi), but my compressor was only capable of producing about 400 psi (about 28 bar). In order to liquify the CO2 at this pressure, i had to put the tank in an ice bath at 0C.
Even this wasn't quite enough, though, so to get a little bit of extra pressure, i fed the output from the 12 bar tank into the suction side of my compressor, allowing it to produce close to 600 PSI at the discharge side. In the ice bath, this was enough pressure to liquify the CO2, but it took a little over an hour to transfer and condense the CO2 from the 12 bar tank. I collected about 500 grams of liquid CO2 in the high pressure tank.
Once I had the liquid CO2, i turned my high pressure tank upside down so that the liquid would come out first, and discharged it. Liquid CO2 can't exist at 1 atmosphere of pressure, so as soon as it comes out of the tank, it flash freezes to dry ice at -79C.
The tricky part is capturing the frozen CO2, since most of it blasts out into the atmosphere. The container being used to capture the ice needs to be vented to work properly, but not vented too much, or else all the CO2 will be lost. To do this, I tried a sock (effectively a porous container), which probably collected less than 20% of the CO2 from the tank as ice, and came out in a fine powder, meaning it didn't last long. The second approach used a mold with velt holes, but i only recovered about ~2% of the CO2 this way.
I think the key to creating a block of dry ice is to discharge relatively slowly into a mold. I had my valve full open, and I think instead of allowing ice to collect and settle in the mold, the flow was blasting it out.
Ultimately, the time and cost of producing the dry ice from scratch make it impractical as a pre-cooler for liquid nitrogen generation.
Music Used:
Kevin MacLeod - Lobby Time
Kevin MacLeod - George Street Shuffle
Kevin MacLeod - Groove Groove

Пікірлер
  • For those who are curious, the "KSP Soundtrack" is "Groove Groove" by Kevin MacLeod. Kerbal Space Program used several Kevin MacLeod tracks for their music in early development because they're royalty free, and left them in the game even after they started producing their own soundtrack music.

    @HyperspacePirate@HyperspacePirate Жыл бұрын
    • @@criticalevent Not really. Better to buy the CO2 unless you happened to already have large quantities of the reagents on hand

      @HyperspacePirate@HyperspacePirate Жыл бұрын
    • Might have been a bit easyer if you used like a water chiller for like a laser, they can get super chilled for around 150 bucks and have pretty powerful compressors.

      @dragonsyph2557@dragonsyph2557 Жыл бұрын
    • at 14:10 you should really be wearing some gloves for thermal safety from frostbite, aka frozen skin & body tissue. Which is very is nasty & painful to experience. You can quickly cause your hands to become damaged, in very a painful way as they thaw and the flesh may be necrotic. Requiring amputation. Freezing your flesh or "Frostbite"(the name trivializes how serious it can be )is something people climbing mountains like Everest fear more than falling. Cool experiment and great teaching video , just please think about preserving your body. I used to work with dry ice in large amounts on shows, often breaking big blocks from the storage coolers into small pieces so they hard more surface area for the dry ice fog machines. There few more safety rules you want to follow, but that bare skin contact is big no no for the risk. Even if just momentary.

      @ablemagawitch@ablemagawitch Жыл бұрын
    • 13:12 oh god no lol XD

      @matty4z@matty4z Жыл бұрын
    • @@ablemagawitch NO

      @dragonsyph2557@dragonsyph2557 Жыл бұрын
  • I love the carefully included humour and educational value of your content.

    @RNA0ROGER@RNA0ROGER Жыл бұрын
    • I agree

      @WillSmithAnarchy@WillSmithAnarchy Жыл бұрын
    • yea, the mask thing had me rolling

      @bobbyc2768@bobbyc276810 ай бұрын
    • newest addition to the crusty sock collection!

      @justrolledintotheshop@justrolledintotheshop8 ай бұрын
  • I used a very simple dry ice puck maker designed for special effects use. It was two disks of wood with velcro hook strips glued and stapled on them, and a pipe connector tapped into one the disks. In use, a larger velcro strap was applied around the two disks with a gap for the puck of dry ice to form inside. Then liquid CO2 was blown in until the puck started making slight creaking noises. When the velcro was undone there was a nice solid puck of dry ice inside. That was an impressive way of making enough CO2. I wonder if the first compressor was angry about being started under pressure, since they aren't really designed for that.

    @bigclivedotcom@bigclivedotcom Жыл бұрын
    • It may not have been broke, could have just been the starter burned out, easy replacement. There is also a chance it melted some insulation because he ran a heavy load with no cooling (usually refrigerant provides cooling in addition to the oil.) Lastly, he plugged it in with no load (rotor) so of course it'll just overheat and definitely short at that point. It's impossible to say.

      @etherealrose2139@etherealrose21392 ай бұрын
  • 3:32 - You need to add an air stone diffuser to your bubbler/scrubber to reduce sloshing and improve absorption of fumes and such. The sloshing is depleting your desiccant capacity too quickly as can be seen with the dripping into your drier. Also add some salt to your ice bath for a few extra degrees of cooling. You can get down to -21C with enough salt, reducing your pressure requirement for condensation down to just 19 bar.

    @MechMan0124@MechMan01248 ай бұрын
  • Your DIY chemical engineering is so awesome and inspiring. I’ve studied this stuff in school, yet between all the thermodynamics, transport phenomena and kinetics classes, I can’t think of a better way to demonstrate the spirit of engineering than what you’re doing right now. Keep up the good work!

    @samgrattan5465@samgrattan5465 Жыл бұрын
    • What else does he make at home? lol

      @izzzzzz6@izzzzzz6 Жыл бұрын
    • His wife.. happy

      @romancandlefight1144@romancandlefight1144 Жыл бұрын
  • "It could eeeasily be lethal... Anyway" Stay safe!

    @MarkusBenjaminAnders@MarkusBenjaminAnders Жыл бұрын
    • If that tread fails all that pressure is released. Frosts damage to skin, suffocation, loss of hearing and turning bottle into ballistic missile that has enough force to punch trough brick wall are the very potential consequences depending on detail like location, top of turning that peace into impro bullet. Local trade school had student be poked to weld cap to pipe, fill it with oxy acetylene mix and hit the spark. End result lead to whole welding section moving it self to walls and removing all the windows in 50 meter radius. Top of that all the gas bottles also went to walls from several broken the valve off and turned into ICBM's going trough the brick wall, metal roof like it was not there. Furthest away one was found 100 meters away, mind those bottles are really heavy even when empty. This one has less mass and pressure, but its still enough to be dangerous if you fuck something up, so learn what is needed to make it safely, well as consider all the risks constantly. Its better if you can do everything remotely from behind the brick wall or similar shield to hinder it and mind having well ventilated area that allows co2 be replaced with fresh air fast. Full lung full of co2 can knock you off pretty damn fast.

      @Hellsong89@Hellsong89 Жыл бұрын
    • Safety 3rd, right?

      @Paulster2@Paulster2 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Hellsong89 Yeah I've heard a couple of oxy acetylene bombs go off and they go off with one hell a bang lol. I guy I know made one when he was an apprentice welder. Set it off in the workshop and ruptured his bosses ear drums. He wasn't an apprentice there after that 😂😂

      @28russ@28russ Жыл бұрын
    • So true, But so is an outlet Or gasoline. That being said, again true, Well said

      @goldenmeanphaseconjunction313@goldenmeanphaseconjunction313 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Hellsong89 päüää Ä0ä0äü0ä

      @erolflyn1741@erolflyn1741 Жыл бұрын
  • This is so underrated. C'mon, this stuff is much better that all of pop-science channels put together

    @maddsua@maddsua Жыл бұрын
    • Trapped farts. LMAO

      @maddsua@maddsua Жыл бұрын
    • I know as much as I love channels like NileRed, everything has become clickbait-y and unoriginal.

      @jacobb7608@jacobb7608 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jacobb7608 well okay, not all 1M+ channels suck, but most of them for sure

      @maddsua@maddsua Жыл бұрын
    • Explosions&Fire / Extractions&Ire (sis channel) and LabCoatz also don't suck. 😉👍 Although, the latter is just starting out and last time I checked, he only had 20K subs with NileRed's help (I stumbled across him at 10K, and also mentioned him in a E&F community post).

      @DUKE_of_RAMBLE@DUKE_of_RAMBLE Жыл бұрын
    • Chemiolis, chemdelic, and chemical force are also great

      @Correct_Opinion@Correct_Opinion Жыл бұрын
  • I am so used to watching Nile Red and all of his proper glassware and then I find you... I sub'd the second I saw the gatorade bottles as test equipment. Now I know we are about to learn some sketchy fun stuff. This is how I experiment in my garage too. Sometimes you just want to learn but don't have every single part so you just make it out of normal household goods.

    @genuismensa@genuismensa Жыл бұрын
  • you’re level of ingenuity is inspiring!! definitely got yourself a new subscriber!🤘🏽

    @robinnegus6499@robinnegus6499 Жыл бұрын
  • I work at a big box store in the plumbing department. Sometimes we get people trying to do such creative projects. I'm glad that you understand the danger. Thank you for allowing us to live vicariously with your videos! Stay safe!

    @k.c.sunshine1934@k.c.sunshine1934 Жыл бұрын
    • Hey I love my custom built muskets.

      @humannotanalien8675@humannotanalien8675 Жыл бұрын
    • Can ya elaborate on these homemade blunderbus lol

      @Willrocs@Willrocs Жыл бұрын
    • ​​@@humannotanalien8675 You can make the best cannons from scrapped hydraulic cylinders. They even come with a built in pivot and touch port🫣💥

      @amosbackstrom5366@amosbackstrom5366 Жыл бұрын
    • ​@@amosbackstrom5366 Ha ha !

      @charliepearce8767@charliepearce876711 ай бұрын
    • Yikes. Closest I've come to that was making a u-bend nozzle for my pressure washer to clean gutters from the ground, and even that sketched me out.

      @ProtoV33MK1@ProtoV33MK18 ай бұрын
  • I remember seeing in a science equipment catalog, maybe Edmund back in the day, a dry ice sock, the use of which I never explored. I hadn't thought about that in probably 20 years or more until you tied the sock to the outlet. "Hey, so that's how it works!"

    @leifhietala8074@leifhietala8074 Жыл бұрын
    • I remember that in the Edmond catalog, it came with a denim sock to collect the ice.

      @bobbyvarnell9350@bobbyvarnell9350 Жыл бұрын
    • @@bobbyvarnell9350 is there anything special to it(material it's made of or something) or is it basically just a sock?

      @KibitoAkuya@KibitoAkuya Жыл бұрын
    • @@KibitoAkuya I think you just want a thick material. You can buy the bags and make your own with a tank of co2. It wastes a lot though. They also make these little plastic blocks that you can release the co2 into. Also wastes a lot of co2. This is fine if you only need to make a little bit every once in a while. Anything more than that and you'll want to spend 5k on a machine that pulls co2 out of the air and makes dry ice like a regular ice machine.

      @kathleenrobertpogue6818@kathleenrobertpogue6818 Жыл бұрын
    • @@kathleenrobertpogue6818 And in-between those, just buy the dry ice directly.

      @tylisirn@tylisirn Жыл бұрын
    • @@KibitoAkuya Denim is good because it's relatively smooth so the dry ice doesn't tend to stick to it. Our setup used a denim sock surrounding a laboratory beaker, it seemed to be very effective.

      @cambridgemart2075@cambridgemart2075 Жыл бұрын
  • Utterliy fascinating project! Thank you for going through all that and sharing this with the world!

    @perpetualjon@perpetualjon11 ай бұрын
  • Humor, knowledge, and safety, perfect! You, sir, deserve an internet. Thank you

    @mylittleparody2277@mylittleparody2277 Жыл бұрын
  • I was fearing another silly video with no redeemable science - but instead got physical chemistry and a wealth of information about bodged together pressure fittings! Now, all you needed to do was add some salt to the ice to further lower the temperature below 0C and you would have made my day! Thanks for sharing this! (btw, I'm a p chemist by training - very well done!)

    @en2oh@en2oh Жыл бұрын
  • That was incredibly interesting and really fun to watch. One of the most informative and entertaining videos I've ever seen.

    @t.mendoza1396@t.mendoza1396 Жыл бұрын
  • Brilliant video. I love how you implement the science with minimal equipment and look for creative rather then expensive solutions :D

    @benjaminriedmuller8085@benjaminriedmuller808511 ай бұрын
  • Testing the co2 by extinguishing flames is essentially the mechanism by which welding gas works. Keeps the oxygen out to keep the metal from burning and reacting with atmosphere making oxides and shit. Argon does that also but also assists in maintaining an arc.

    @Fab-n-dabKev@Fab-n-dabKev Жыл бұрын
  • As someone who fills cryogenic liquids, the lack of ppe is both realistic and terrifying 😂

    @evanwilliams9801@evanwilliams980110 ай бұрын
    • Yes, was noticing no gloves. Even in the HVAC field, minor frostbite is common without gloves.

      @todd8155@todd81558 ай бұрын
    • @@todd8155 In HVACR we don't wear gloves with refrigerants specifically because the tips of the gloves soak up the refrigerant before it all boils off. It can actually make things worse. If you know what you're doing and don't have your head up your ass there shouldn't be a situation where your fingertips are coming into contact with refrigerant in the first place, outside of a fraction of a second when you're disconnecting your gauges. I tried wearing gloves when I first started, that stopped on my 3rd call. 20 years later it's smooth sailing and properly callused fingertips.

      @RT-qd8yl@RT-qd8yl8 ай бұрын
    • @@RT-qd8yl - Thanks for the info!

      @todd8155@todd81558 ай бұрын
    • thanks for posting this A++@@RT-qd8yl

      @overbuiltautomotive1299@overbuiltautomotive12998 ай бұрын
  • Definitely interesting! Thank you for all of that time, work, and effort to make the video

    @tymz-r-achangin@tymz-r-achangin Жыл бұрын
  • Thank you. You answered like 3 questions ive been asking my self for years.

    @melissamackay9003@melissamackay9003 Жыл бұрын
  • Those little compressors are usually cooled by "cold/cool" refrigerant in the return/suction. It was probably working so hard windings got hot and shorted. Like others have said, lubrication is important too.

    @flipping1n0s@flipping1n0s11 ай бұрын
  • Your crusty sock collection joke just earned you a like lol

    @andrewevenson2657@andrewevenson2657 Жыл бұрын
  • Great channel! I am your newest subscriber. Great presentation! Awesome demonstration, excellent pacing, digestible graphics...and O THANK YOU for using your human voice!! On THAT note, consummate job with the audio! Your voice over is so easy to listen to and the music is perfect choice and so expertly tempered against the V.O. throughout!

    @jonphebus6720@jonphebus6720 Жыл бұрын
  • This is an awesome video man, definitely falling down this rabbit hole and very informative!

    @SimplyMagic123@SimplyMagic1233 ай бұрын
  • At a guess, motors often have lower torque starting up than when running, the compressor got to a high enough pressure that while it could still run, the load was too high for the motor to be able to start again, it stalled and instantly burned out.

    @AngDavies@AngDavies Жыл бұрын
    • Compressors actually release pressure when stopping, so that when they start the next cycle, the starting torque doesn't have to fight the pressure inside.

      @graealex@graealex Жыл бұрын
    • Electric motors produce the most torque when the rotor is stalled. Depending on the type of motor the torque will drop off as the speed rises. The piece is called a “unloader valve” and releases the compression in the cylinder when the motor cycles off.

      @jonathonhaberkorn233@jonathonhaberkorn233 Жыл бұрын
    • Even if the motor was locked it wouldn't instantly burn out. It would draw 2-3 times it's rated current but still take a while to burn out.

      @fascistpedant758@fascistpedant758 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jonathonhaberkorn233 true of some types of motor, but not all: induction motors which are quite common tend to have this weird humped torque speed curve, where the torque grows to a peak and then shrinks again

      @AngDavies@AngDavies Жыл бұрын
    • @@fascistpedant758 it’s not burned up. It’s a pressure lock. Refrigerant systems don’t use an unloader valve. They have what is called a “compressor delay” if you have ever programmed a thermostat this is the variable that allows the pressure on the high and low side to equalize before starting the pump. These compressors are very high efficiency and rely heavily on the inertia in the rotating mass to achieve the high pressures that are needed. Chances are he could have let the pressure out and it would have started right up.

      @jonathonhaberkorn233@jonathonhaberkorn233 Жыл бұрын
  • Seems to me like you chose the grippiest material to gather dry ice onto. Thin pillowcases perform much better and its easier to get the dry ice out of them, also dry ice packs rly nice, so u dont have to go straight into pellets. I also think a 3D printed nozzle of some kind could help with creating more snow.

    @M4n10L@M4n10L Жыл бұрын
    • We use a commercially available horn and a denim bag to collect the dry ice.

      @scottmacintyre3620@scottmacintyre36206 ай бұрын
  • There's more cool science info packed into ithis sixteen minute video than probably the last 10 or so other videos I've watched combined. Thanks for the subscription.

    @paulweston8184@paulweston8184 Жыл бұрын
  • Really enjoyed the video!! Thank you for putting this all together!👍

    @Adam_The_Archivist@Adam_The_Archivist9 ай бұрын
  • I would recommend Adding a ball valve after the needle valve that you already have in place so that you can set the flow rate and open and close the outlet as necessary. It may also be beneficial to try an atomizer Nozzle similar to what is used in heating oil furnaces.

    @petercoutu4726@petercoutu4726 Жыл бұрын
  • Great video, I've been wanting to do a co2 generator for a while "sodastream from scratch" type of thing, definitely going to steal some ideas from you 😉👍

    @DiegoSpinola@DiegoSpinola Жыл бұрын
  • Thanks for this video. Not only did I learn a simple way to make dry ice, but also a way to store wood gas.

    @Jazz-ji9zu@Jazz-ji9zu Жыл бұрын
  • Love the attention to detal,just awesome, great job!!😎👍

    @warrenfloyd1484@warrenfloyd1484 Жыл бұрын
  • Awesome Upload!! Thank you very Much!!

    @AndreaDingbatt@AndreaDingbatt Жыл бұрын
  • I think there is still a lot of potential to increase the yield by precooling the CO2 liquid to reduce the vapor pressure. Try using a bath of ice in saturated saltwater to get it below 0°C. Also you could take inspiration from the Linde process: Fix a copper tube to the CO2 pressure vessel and squeeze the end nearly closed, so that the flow of CO2 is throttled there instead of the valve. Put this upside down inside a thermos bottle or dewar - preferably a narrow one. The CO2 cools at the throttle at the bottom of the thermos. The escaping gas will then precool the liquid in the copper tube and increase the yield. Of course you must make sure the copper tube can take the pressure. It might be brittle at low temperature.

    @UltraBrot@UltraBrot Жыл бұрын
    • Good idea, but you could even use a thermos bottle instead of a Dewar.

      @firstmkb@firstmkb Жыл бұрын
    • Using ordinary table salt (NaCl) can get down to -7 °C or 20 °F. Other salts can get a lower temp, but are not as readily available (you would have to order them online instead of getting it at the grocery store).

      @jimellis1496@jimellis1496 Жыл бұрын
    • @@jimellis1496 In Northern states, you can get rock salts from the grocery store during winter. They can help bring the temp to -15°C.

      @Rollyn01@Rollyn01 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Rollyn01 Actually, the freezing point of NaCl and water is 18 °C. I think CaCl2 and water is -40 °C. I used such a cold solution of NaCl when I was distilling benzene. It was a bad idea. The benzene froze in the graham condenser (coiled tubing).

      @louistournas120@louistournas120 Жыл бұрын
    • @@louistournas120 Soooooooooo... CaCl2 + H2O + Stirling heat pump = a really good cryocooler is what I'm hearing? 🤔🤔🤔

      @Rollyn01@Rollyn01 Жыл бұрын
  • A very exciting and comprehensive example.

    @jaaps772@jaaps772 Жыл бұрын
  • one of the best videos out there, thanks for sharing

    @pick_pick_pick@pick_pick_pick3 ай бұрын
  • Your Embraco is a R134 refrigerant. In order to reach high pressure you should use a R404 or R410 refrigerant type of compressor. Danfoss series SC12CC or SC15CC. Also preferably look for a "medium back pressure" as they are suited for higher current through the stator. Putting current through the stator without the rotor running results in no counter EMF (Electro Magnetic Force). Every stator will burn if you do what you did. Notice that all hermetic compressors are protected with a bi-metal current limiter. So the click you heard probably is the over current protection, which will reset itself automatically. When you start experimenting with ethylene, make sure the first trap is at least -30'C, otherwise pressure will be too high. Use preferably R410 in your first stage. For the second stage you will be unable to find an expension valve. You can only run this stage using capillary. It is a long way to get a two stage system working from scracttch or know-how. You can reach me via linked-in, Roland van Hall - Tamson Instruments.

    @rolandvanhall8622@rolandvanhall8622 Жыл бұрын
    • Isn't it great watching homeowners try to do refrigeration?

      @RT-qd8yl@RT-qd8yl8 ай бұрын
  • Eat your heart out Mr. Wizard! This is great! well done HP!

    @beesod6412@beesod6412 Жыл бұрын
  • Absolutely howled at the "crusty sock collection"... oh, and wicked video BTW. Thank you for your time and effort!

    @DJAltheas@DJAltheas Жыл бұрын
  • You could add salt to the ice bath to lower the temperature even more and make your poor compressor happier (or at least not that unhappy!) by not having to reach a pressure as high.

    @MCPicoli@MCPicoli Жыл бұрын
    • Might even be able to liquefy oxygen if you do a 2-stage using the dry ice with an acetone bath to cool the second stage

      @frontiervirtcharter@frontiervirtcharter Жыл бұрын
  • This is bonkers! Subscribed.

    @EvocativeKitsune@EvocativeKitsune Жыл бұрын
  • This video was literally the coolest thing I've seen this week

    @Dis-Emboweled@Dis-Emboweled Жыл бұрын
  • Awesome food for thought. I love the humor as well. Thank you

    @bonzaifpv3015@bonzaifpv3015 Жыл бұрын
  • really interesting and ive been wanting to see someone do this method, also a little note: i suggest you get some borosilicate beakers, blowtorching that isopropyl in the glass had me a little bit scared as common soda lime glass tends to shatter on heating and ive done that far too many times

    @EdwardTriesToScience@EdwardTriesToScience Жыл бұрын
  • Something I was wondering in your last cyrocooler video, it did seem to be getting stuck at around dry ice temperatures. Given you were continuously taking in fresh air (and having to dehydrate it), perhaps you were getting CO2 freezing up inside of your system? At any rate, if you 'recycle' the exhaust, you wouldn't have to do as much drying. But, same goes for closed loop hydrogen, etc. If you do go the cascade refrigeration way, take a look at making some "R469" - its just a mix of CO2 and R410a (easily recovered from dehumidifiers, etc). Much easier to get than ethane or ethylene, but won't freeze at -55C (triple point at 5Bar) like pure CO2 would. I'd probably add some propane to the mix too for oil solubility goodness. (or better, "MAPP Gas", which is just propylene, boils 10c colder). Also, add a heat exchanger, warming up the suction line to the compressor, using the 'heat' left in the refrigerant after the condenser. Bit of warmth makes for more oily oil, and makes sure all the bits of the blend have boiled off. If you haven't played much with diy compression systems before, /other than running stupid high pressures which will cook the motor/ (or, near zero flow, depriving it of cooling) they're a lot more forgiving/harder to fuck up than various tradespeople on forums/youtube/anywhere will go on about - in terms of captube sizing, "fuck it, whats there might work" often does. BBQ tank propane+butane+stinkgas bastard mix will work in just about any system. There is roughly nothing in this world which needs to be brazed, (cheap-ish, "silver bearing", plumbing solder 100%. Cheap, by-the-litre-from-pharmacies "fatty cream" moisturizer+zinc oxide+Hcl= plumbing solder flux), and no brazing means no nitrogen purging (I use CO2 sometimes) - though I flush any flux, etc out of a system with ethanol first. Nothing needs to be vacuumed for more than 30 minutes, if it does, its leaking. (Oh, and try not to vent ODP/high-GWP refrigerants like the "professionals" do. Its so easy to recover them into old gas torch bottles for playing with later)

    @s6e67tysd@s6e67tysd Жыл бұрын
  • Unorthodox. Cavalier. But literally cool and awesome! Thanks for sharing.

    @SuperWhizy@SuperWhizy7 ай бұрын
  • Nice to see your funny commentary. I was a ammonia operator we used ammonia as a refrigerant making lco2 and dry ice. Our main compressor was 1,750 hp. At 220 psi. The lco2 got down to -21 f before going out to our tanks. 5 tanks at 220 tons each. Btw only fill refrig. Tanks 80% max.

    @nathank4708@nathank4708 Жыл бұрын
  • Very cool, I have seen the sock thing done before. This is a lot of work and equipment to pull off. I think it's easier to buy co2 in a cylinder from a welding supply store , cheaper also. But fun video keep up the great content

    @newmonengineering@newmonengineering Жыл бұрын
    • the cheapest way to source co2 is to pick up a siphon tube co2 bottle as used for soda fountains, they can be picked up for under $50 and refilled for far cheaper than a larger co2 bottle

      @mouserr@mouserr Жыл бұрын
  • "with a little bit of force, a standard barbed fitting can be pushed into the inflation valve of the beach ball, and now we've got our gas bag" gets me every time

    @bottlekruiser@bottlekruiser Жыл бұрын
  • I loved that the step-by-step process was easy to follow. I think a couple more iterations and you'd make as much as you want.

    @numberoneappgames@numberoneappgames2 ай бұрын
  • This was fun. I was not expecting to stay for the whole video. Good video

    @antoniopeterson3277@antoniopeterson3277 Жыл бұрын
  • Refrigerator compressors need to have the oil coming back in the return pipe. This lubricates the motor, cools the winding and provides the wet bath to seal the piston in the cylinder bore. Maybe drip some compressor oil into the intake? It will mean that the output from the compressor will be expelling an oil mist, which your set up will probably need to deal with. This video is good stuff!

    @PaulMetzler-gu6ew@PaulMetzler-gu6ew Жыл бұрын
    • Actually most of the oil does not dissolve in the refrigerant, with stationary home style compressors the oil usually stays in the compressor (unless it gets hot like in this circumstances). You really don't want the oil to get into the gasses being compressed, so, hmmm, using a little compressor like this one would need to fine a way to cool the oil. In automotive uses the lubricant, at least with R12(mineral), r134/R152a (PAG, etc.) the oil is soluble and flows with the refrigerant through the whole cycle.

      @theradioweyr@theradioweyr8 ай бұрын
  • I think even if the motor was still okay powering the windings without the rotor like that can set it on fire, because if there is no ferrous something for them to magnetize their inductance is way lower.

    @netman69@netman69 Жыл бұрын
  • Absolutly loved the video! All aspects of it. Subscribing and looking forward to more!

    @Moist_yet_Crispy@Moist_yet_Crispy Жыл бұрын
  • Very interesting thanks. Watching the CO2 powder just disappear was sublime.

    @jasonlowery1369@jasonlowery1369 Жыл бұрын
  • I have a bar and we used large CO2 bottles for our keg system. The large cylinders are called 50lb CO2 cylinders and cost about $50 bucks to fill up. You can have them filled at a fire extinguisher dealer cheap. Most dealers can also recertify a tank of any variety. Should be able to find some cheap cylinders. For CO2 our tanks stay around 800 psi

    @Dave62530@Dave62530 Жыл бұрын
    • Is the CO2 used to refill fire extinguishers "food grade"? Do you have to worry about impurities when using fire extinguisher CO2 with beverages? I wonder if the CO2 used with paintball guns is food safe? I've been meaning to get some small CO2 tanks for pneumatic projects. I'm pretty sure CO2 provides much more working gas than pressurized air in a comparably sized of container.

      @ddegn@ddegn Жыл бұрын
    • @@ddegn Seltzer bottles use common CO2 carts like airguns use. I've never seen anything about having to use "food grade" CO2 in them.

      @Centar1964@Centar1964 Жыл бұрын
    • @@Centar1964 Good to know. Thanks.

      @ddegn@ddegn Жыл бұрын
    • @@Centar1964 That's "food grade" CO2 because it's just clean CO2, I don't know if the CO2 used in fire extinguishers is suitable for food use or not. But CO2 cylinders used for welding have some oil from the compressors, at least some of them.

      @ruben_balea@ruben_balea Жыл бұрын
  • Every time I watch a chemistry video, I feel like I'm acquiring forbidden knowledge, thus becoming more powerful

    @Embassy_of_Jupiter@Embassy_of_Jupiter Жыл бұрын
    • *In a sense u r .. which should make u question many things*

      @my_flippin_journey@my_flippin_journey Жыл бұрын
  • 09:00 I was half-expecting a "get well soon" card lying off tot the side. You have a great sense of humor man, keep it up :)

    @stalincat2457@stalincat2457 Жыл бұрын
  • I figured out how you figured this out .. the dog 🐕... The brains of the operation... Dude your amazing! Thanks for the video!

    @hkr321hkr@hkr321hkr Жыл бұрын
  • You will always burn compressor without starting device what is sitting on connector to steel egg that compressor sitting in. compressor have double winding... one for working and one for starting. This starting winding gettin power thru thermistor in starting device only for few seconds, because thermistor getting hot and resistance rise rapidly. Normally spark and boom comming from thermistor and many times You just have to change it to keep compressor starting again.... You can even use crued methood and use momentary switch to energize starting winding. Best regards.

    @killallfornothing@killallfornothing Жыл бұрын
  • Have you played with vortex tubes? They're pretty neat. They separate the hot and cold air molecules and at their respective exits can boil or freeze water by using only compressed air at common pressures (I ran them off the regular pneumatic/air taps at work).

    @russellzauner@russellzauner Жыл бұрын
    • Cool, any videos of that?

      @willyouwright@willyouwright Жыл бұрын
    • @@willyouwright actually yes! Linus Tech Tips has a video where they tried to cool a computer. The video title is "This is a CPU Cooler?"

      @kasuraga@kasuraga Жыл бұрын
    • kzhead.info/sun/e9JxmKiRa5Sso4E/bejne.html Here's one on machining one.

      @ransombot@ransombot Жыл бұрын
  • Congratulations on 100k!

    @PsRohrbaugh@PsRohrbaugh Жыл бұрын
  • Beautiful , Interesting and very well explained, congratulations and thank you for shearing your knowledge

    @ernestoterrazas3480@ernestoterrazas3480 Жыл бұрын
  • i love how you've essentially made a homemade co2 fire extinguisher. i bet you could refill empty ones in the same way 😄 (yes i know that's a horrible idea for many reasons)

    @StellaFoxxie@StellaFoxxie Жыл бұрын
    • As someone who *_doesn't_* know why that would be a bad idea... I'm certainly open to hearing why that would be. ☺️

      @DUKE_of_RAMBLE@DUKE_of_RAMBLE Жыл бұрын
    • @@DUKE_of_RAMBLE i guess its not that doing it is inherently unsafe (you can basically do it as safely as the video) but the danger lies in actually using it as a primary fire safety device. because (as far as i know) fire extinguishers are extremely regulated devices intended to be refilled exclusively by a certified service company as to insure the upmost reliability, as a faulty fire extinguisher can really make a bad situation MUCH worse its kinda like building your own parachute for skydiving. can you do it? probably. should you do it? probably not

      @StellaFoxxie@StellaFoxxie Жыл бұрын
    • @@StellaFoxxie Actually, most people who skydive DO pack their own chutes... And if you've ever met any of the people who service fire extinguishers, you'd know this guy has his shit together way better...

      @kleetus92@kleetus92 Жыл бұрын
    • @@kleetus92 i meant like sewing your own parachute, out of like bedsheets. and of course you can refill a fire extinguisher easily, that's the whole point of the first comment. why are you so hostile?

      @StellaFoxxie@StellaFoxxie Жыл бұрын
    • @@StellaFoxxie Who's hostile? I'm just saying this guy not only has all his ducks in the same pond, they're also in a row!

      @kleetus92@kleetus92 Жыл бұрын
  • You could have added a lot of salt to the ice bath to drop the temperature below 0 .... wonder how much that would help you keep the pressure more down...

    @snapo1750@snapo1750 Жыл бұрын
  • Wow! The compressor collection beachball storage setup was simple genius.

    @AB1Vampire@AB1Vampire Жыл бұрын
  • Such a fantastic learning video. Thank you🎉 Cheers🥂

    @al_vin007@al_vin0078 ай бұрын
  • Very nice. What types of fittings would be appropriate for those pressures if one was concerned about safety?

    @JuulCPH@JuulCPH Жыл бұрын
    • A proper adapter for the paintball tank fitting would be fine. I just jury-rigged mine by drilling/tapping

      @HyperspacePirate@HyperspacePirate Жыл бұрын
    • Hydraulic. Hvac refrigerant lines are usually rated at 10k or 8k psi but brass fittings “shouldnt” explode. But its not like those 10$ home depot fittings are stress tested to pressures that high when theyre sold as water fittings.. ive gotten brass fittings new out of box with hairline cracks and at those pressures a defect in the casting will blow apart a fitting with enough force to embed pieces in your meaty parts.. plus a hose burst or sudden purge of 1000 psi will also easily rupture an ear drum.. not from the pressure differential of the room but the sound that shit makes is crazy loud.. i had a 450psi pop off valve go on me once and had it on recording. What the camera picked up was just psssd. But what i heard was a bbrrrrrrr.. thought that was wild..

      @Z-Ack@Z-Ack Жыл бұрын
    • When considering which fittings to buy, you're quickly going to realize that the ones you NEED are pretty expensive. If you can cross reference them from Chart Industries to their supplier, you'll be fine. I maintained the equipment at an Industrial and medical gas distributor and there's so much that can kill you in a project like this that while fun and cool, it's like playing with dynamite. Safe until it's not.

      @d3m0n54in7@d3m0n54in7 Жыл бұрын
    • English brass/copper ,yorkshire fittings WITH OLIVE RINGS . YOU CAN G#ET FROM PLUMBERS MERCHANT S in U,k.

      @rabitrees9709@rabitrees9709 Жыл бұрын
  • Now this is, some cool shit

    @Top-Code@Top-Code Жыл бұрын
  • I never laughed so hard on one of these howto videos. Love your sense of humor. Keep it up.

    @BangkokBubonaglia@BangkokBubonaglia Жыл бұрын
  • Just found you and I gotta say I'm already loving this. You are like Cody's Lab but more concise. As for your cryo cooler, perhaps if you used another means of cooling it, like a salt bath as salt tends to have a cooling effect on water. The big brained move though would be to figure out how to use the cryo cooler to cool itself down. But I doubt that will work very well without a closed looped system that will work against what you intend to use it for.

    @sypoth@sypoth Жыл бұрын
  • Hmm ... at what pressure does your baking soda+acid reaction still produce CO2? It's not going to easily stop just because there's already a high pressure of CO2 around, right? Could you sidestep a big portion of this process by directly making the CO2 in a pressurized system? Instead of running the chemical reaction at 1 atmosphere and then pressurizing, just letting the reaction itself make your pressure. Maybe it's more hassle than worth but it would be cool.

    @MrRolnicek@MrRolnicek Жыл бұрын
    • you would find the equilibrium point of partial pressure for this reaction

      @notabagel@notabagel Жыл бұрын
    • I was not able to find how much pressure this reaction could produce but I think it's pretty high. I did find examples of using baking soda and acid to launch rockets made from 2L pop bottles. I think your idea is worth investigating (as long as I don't have to do the work).

      @ddegn@ddegn Жыл бұрын
    • @@ddegn Chemical reactions like this (just by looking happening instantly) tend to be able to push a lot of pressure. Dangerously high ammount in fact which is why I would personally never "investigate" this idea as you say. But for those who know how to be safe about these things...

      @MrRolnicek@MrRolnicek Жыл бұрын
  • This guys like I did a thing and Nile red at the same time

    @Impossible_Fishy@Impossible_Fishy Жыл бұрын
  • thank, you for you're video. this, works great and last a long time.👍

    @gerlandkent6377@gerlandkent63776 ай бұрын
  • Domestic refrigeration compressor’s need off cycle pressure equalisation to start, they can’t start against differential pressure, simple refrigerant metering devices such as the capillary tube that they generally use do this provided there’s enough off time. Normally the Klixon provides some protection in the event of a short cycle restart

    @ianbottom7396@ianbottom7396 Жыл бұрын
  • 13:16 Making it the newest addition to my crusty sock collection 😂😂😂

    @w04h@w04h Жыл бұрын
    • Had to look that one up, definitely shouldn't have 🤦

      @canonicaltom@canonicaltom Жыл бұрын
  • Actually backed away from screen as gauge approached 800psi

    @robomaster1000@robomaster1000 Жыл бұрын
  • With no load and not all ferric parts in place resistance will be very low in the windings and will thereby very easily be heated up if used incorrectly. Very nice video! I've been working with dry ice production for a few years. Nice to see some hobby production!

    @FyaaahS@FyaaahS Жыл бұрын
  • Very entertaining!! Basic chemistry! Awesome and amazing

    @nitromax5150@nitromax5150 Жыл бұрын
  • You can easily convince me to wear a mask, but no shot that I'm carrying around a CO2 tank. Or a fucking beach ball.

    @WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart@WhenDoesTheVideoActuallyStart Жыл бұрын
  • Really cool stuff! Once I used up an entire fire extinguisher making dry ice haha would love to give this a try another time

    @tanchienhao@tanchienhao Жыл бұрын
  • I worked in air-conditioning and refrigeration and enjoyed this video.

    @charliepearce8767@charliepearce876711 ай бұрын
  • love the video and the info is amazing and u keep it interesting the whole time!!

    @VuduWRLD@VuduWRLD Жыл бұрын
  • Very cool! Great job and fantastic narrative!! (Latest addition to my crusty sock collection!🤣)

    @jerrydaugherty4657@jerrydaugherty4657 Жыл бұрын
  • I love this stuff. The utility of everything around u makes then best alchemist

    @gruboniell4189@gruboniell41898 ай бұрын
  • This is pure genius!

    @MrHichammohsen1@MrHichammohsen1 Жыл бұрын
  • Now this is a truely scientific spirited video, congratulations friend!

    @danielduarte6149@danielduarte6149 Жыл бұрын
  • Hyperspace Pirate you have some pretty cool videos! I think if you made a small scale co2 extractor for collection oils would be right on part with some of your past videos. would really love to see how you would accomplish building such a device. keep up the great work!

    @spaz1879@spaz1879 Жыл бұрын
  • You are a very brave man.

    @thombaz@thombaz Жыл бұрын
  • Very cool video, thanks for sharing it was very interesting and educational. 👍

    @jetenginethrust863@jetenginethrust863 Жыл бұрын
  • Excellent presentation. Subscribed.

    @tedfeats1719@tedfeats17199 ай бұрын
  • Thank you Pirate, very cool

    @dogeenjoyer7581@dogeenjoyer7581 Жыл бұрын
  • This is how to make a KZhead video. In the 1st minute everything was explained. Then it was explained again in great detail but in an interesting and entertaining way.

    @freehat2722@freehat2722 Жыл бұрын
  • I have a 20 lb CO2 cylinder for making soda water. It is not expensive to refill so that would be an option for CO2. Back in the 1980's I worked for Liquid Carbonic and we took CO2 from a fertilizer plant (waste CO2 from the manufacture of nitrogen based fertilizer) and processed it then filled railcars and trucks with the CO2. The plant had sold dry ice also (but by the time I started working for them they had stopped making and selling dry ice). The industrial equipment for dry ice was still there and we could still make some.

    @RioSul50@RioSul508 ай бұрын
  • This is a job well done.

    @Mr_Pr3sid3nt@Mr_Pr3sid3nt Жыл бұрын
  • Have you seen commercial dry ice production? They expand the liquid into a large chamber which makes CO2 snow, then compress the snow into large blocks that are then cut into smaller blocks with a band saw. You can make the snow just need a way to gather it and then compress it into the final form. Your video is great, thank you.

    @cookingforone6359@cookingforone6359 Жыл бұрын
  • I like your sense of humor 😁

    @sathancat@sathancat Жыл бұрын
  • that was cool . thanks for sharing

    @overnightOCD@overnightOCD11 ай бұрын
  • I found it very interesting. An enjoyable video. 👍

    @paparoysworkshop@paparoysworkshop Жыл бұрын
  • I'm impressed 👍! Ty

    @lii1Il@lii1Il Жыл бұрын
KZhead