Why are the BRITISH so happy buying CHINESE EVs?
2024 ж. 10 Сәу.
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In this video James Ruppert of Bangernomics fame and Geoff Buys Cars ask why British people have been so quick to adapt to Chinese EVs, as well as asking what on earth has happened to Volvo.
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I won't buy any EV, far less a Chinese one. They are all junk.
They're ideal for a golf course, where silence is key and range is an afterthought.
Good old deisel. 😊
@@pixie706 I before E except after C
Did you have one previously?
Separate the wheat from the chaff everywhere. When the chaff goes well will all be happier.
These Chinese shitboxes will be E-waste in 5 years time.🤨
5 years? how optimisitic
@@mistahsusan2650 🤣True!
Lol. So true. Every time I see someone driving a Chinese built MG, I keep thinking “you muppet” 🤣
E waste, to be recycled in Kilwinning 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@binits777A friend is very pleased with her MG.
For the same reason, we buy air-source heat pumps. We are gullible ill-informed sheep.
It's just an air conditioning unit, mini split system, up untill recently we all believed they were part of the problem( I still believe they are they pump out heat and use a massive amount of power) People that have installed air source heat pumps to heat the home will no doubt use it to cool their home now in hot summer months as well leading to more energy use
@@shugthehornyhaggis one of the problems is that they actually don't pump out heat, we haven't had a really cold winter here for some years now but I've been in several new builds during the winter and they're bloody freezing, one particular property where I was working in west Norfolk was 14 degrees indoors and they had a superser in the living room. To be fair these people bought a new house that had a heat pump installed but I can't imagine why anyone would want to pay a fortune to be cold and skint?
I have had an ASHP for 10 years + and it has been satifactory in all respects.
@@bernardrobinson5942 what kind and how much did it cost you
@@shugthehornyhaggis Mitshubishi ZUBADAN air to water heat pump tied into existing central heatinh about 7 K fitted , some time ago
Because they don't see themselves as part of the problem or don't see a problem. Ignorance of major consumer issues is endemic in Britain.
Anyone else seeing the dots flow together? Removing vehicles from the motorists, making 15 min citys more viable. People buying the MG under the illusion that they are buying something with British heritage.
Oh yessss! And when public transport is removed too, so will everyone else!
Flow? im seeing a landslide
I don't care if MG British or not . Want the right product . Where your device your using now made? Is it British ? Look round your house tell me what else you own is made elsewhere.
@@AdrianMcDaidYes, outsourcing our industries was the right move. Excellent point, destroying our future really set us all up for success.
It's not mg anymore.
The problem with new dodgy brands is, if they go bankrupt....the software is turned off and the car is dead.
The car industry is killing itself, there's nothing new I'd like to buy. Or perhaps government restrictions on car makers are to blame.
It's all being done by design...
As above, the Chinese pure EV brands have a massive head start of the proper brands who are changed from ice to EV. The fact proper brands never made a cheap, every man EV is fishy too. I think they are sacrificial lambs, to open the doors to a market where only Chinese evs are available.
Car manufacturers lobby (bribe) the government...this is all part of a globalist fukwitt agenda
More to the point nothing new I could AFFORD to buy even if I wanted to.
Own buy UK owned car manufacturers?
Cheap. That’s it. Not thinking of residuals at all unfortunately. However how many actually think it’s British because it’s badged as MG?
It’s really morags geely
Most people lease. If it drops value not your problem.
@@AdrianMcDaid yes, a lot of the EVs on the road are on a lease due to the crazy company car tax breaks.
@@AdrianMcDaid True but the insurance needs to be shouldered by the lessee, that could be escalating year to year and cannot be deleted.
MGs were shite years ago. Why would you buy a Chinese built one that looks like a Qashqai ? Scrap in 10 years.
Coal powered Chinese EVs
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Not in the U.K. they aren’t. The last coal powered power station will be shut before the end of 2024.
@@davecooper3238 Chinese cars are made with energy that comes from coal powered power stations. They are then shipped halfway across the world for some smug twat to drive in the UK. They are anything but green.
@@davecooper3238But China has 1200+ coal powered power stations and building another 2000 to make the shit EV's ( and all their junk factories) they are flooding the world with.
@@davecooper3238 The point is China runs on thousands of coal power stations.
I wouldn't trust my life to Chinese tires, yet alone a chineseium car.
well to be fair.. most tyres are now Chinese made inc. those from the likes of Conti and Michelin. China makes some incredible things. It's a shame we don't make very much here in Great Shitain. EV's are still crap though..
@@chaosflower4892 You mean like aero-engines and mixro-processor designs?
Where are your ones made ?
@@EvoraGT4302 things is good
@@chaosflower4892at least when established European brands have things manufactured there, they are answerable to those brands with their reputation and clout. Unlike with some generic Chinese brand.
The old cars were the best cars Geoff. The Bishop of Aston spoke to my Sunday school, in 1967, about his time in a Japanese prisoner of war camp and made us all promise not to buy a Japanese car. Imagine that happening now😢?
that's a really powerful anecdote.
The Bishop of Aston was a powerful speaker, unlike Montefiore the Bishop of Birmingham who was the pre runner of WOKE, i was 42 before i drove my first Japanese car. It wasn't by choice, it was a company car and l felt lie I was betraying a promise. Lots of regrets, lve never bought one with my own money.
If you want something made in England toyota is the only sane choice. And they are sensible about EVs
What's do you think is sensible about EVs please?
If it was a matter not to buy something from country English had war with . Be nothing to buy
As a swede it's sad to witness the downfall of Volvo. They made awsome estate wagons all the way from the 50's up until about 2010's when suddenly they abandoned their core market - middle class families. I'm now in that consumer category myself but would never consider any new Volvo model, but rather happily buy an old one.
I completely agree woth you. The change in around 2010 coincides with the Chinese company Geely buying into Volvo.
Spot on - my Grandad was in Burma from start to finish and what he said about the Japanese cannot be written down!
An XC90 with a 1.6 must be a special experience! I'll bet it's ragged to an inch of its life just to move away from the kerb!
Haha😂
I swear this sort of large cars with puny engines are mainly meant for the Asian market, where people care more about the badge than how a car drives.
They did this with the s80 it had a 1.6 engine not sure if it was petrol or diesel
You nailed it when you asked who in their right mind. Sadly few are still in their right mind.
Morag has a Chinese MG battery powered car, and she's switched on. McMaster is hoping that someone will switch her off 😂
Sad to see the disarray present in all car manufacturers with the traditional names being trashed and the adoption of low quality high price electric vehicles being pushed at us. The only source of reliable vehicles is now in the used sector!
Absurd but true.
So why is European industry so backward in building EVs?
They have opened the gate and are pulling in the Trojan Horse. When will they ever learn?
Tin-foil hat moment.
Why is British industry incapable of building EVs. That's the question.
@stephenbirchall941 It's asking a lot of Morgan, Ginetta and Caterham
The problem existed long before there were EVs. The question is why are people so happy to buy stuff made in China and to buy it to the point that there are things that are only made in China. I go out of my way not to buy made in China but there are times when it’s just not possible to find a product I need that isn’t made in China. If the item is something I want as opposed to need then if it’s made in China I just won’t buy it.
It's pretty much impossible not to buy things that don't have some parts of it not made in China (hope that sentence parses!). Even if something is assembled in the UK or Europe, there's a good chance many of the components will be made in China. It's a vast country with massive amounts of production, so some stuff is badly made and some stuff will be made to a decent standard. Generalising about a product's country of origin isn't always helpful, it's probably better to focus on the actual companies involved in making particular products. So many companies are based across multiple countries, and products also not made in a single country.
@@davem9204 A lot of household named itemsare coming out of China. I had a PIaggio scooter which I assumed was made in Italy wrong!! I had to take the panels off to do some work on it and there was a made in China sticker!! Ok they may be built to a decent quality as the manufacturer requires. Someone in the trade told me once what the Chinese do is build one example to really good standards and send it over to be homolgated and once it has been approved standards then slip.
Many people choose cars the same way many men choose girlfriends. Cheap and pretty wins the date.
When I worked for a very large local authority (park's dep) thay tried to sack a gardener for refusing to use a new mower with a honda engine. He was a Japanese prisoner of war & had very good reason's for his refusal. We in the machinery maintenance department supported him & supplied & maintained a mower for his use only. The alleged management were a complete shower.
Great story.
My ex-sister-in-law wouldn't eat rice...because her dad was a Japanese prisoner of war 🤔
@@metannica1little bit silly as rice is across all Asia. It’s not just Japanese. And it’s also across India as well.
@xr6lad You know that...and so do I 😂🤣😂
My 1st chargehand at SW Gas was tortured by Japanese soldiers after the fall of Singapore. He refused to have anything to do with Japanese goods. When he retired, we bought the birdwatcher Zeiss binoculars, "nice, bleddy good lens makers them Jerries" he said.
I worked for a Honda car dealer in the early 90’s, there was still antipathy from the older generation then. Much less when I went back to Honda in the noughties. I am now in my 70’s and have owned British, French, German, Chech, Polish, Italian, Russian(!) American and Japanese. My thinking now is “If it ain’t a Toyota, it ain’t a motor” apologies to all my Honda acquaintances.
I had three Honda vans nd a pick up,over around thirty years, all night used,and all reached high milelages,with minimum maintainence,and repairs,and one major breakdown.
No, you're right. Honda humped the bunk in '08 and their quality now is not first class.
Not Purchasing them, leasing them and handing them back 😂
The residual lease value will be low, just like trade-in of one purchased. Many will be caught out.
@@EllieMaes-Grandad The leasing company will be taking the risk on the residual value, they will set the monthly payments based on their residual estimate but if it ends up being a lot less than they predicted then that is their loss and not the lessee's. With residuals falling as they are it will mean that leasing costs are likely to increase for new leases.
Yep most cars on the road are lease cars that's why nobody drives with care and respect because they don't own them
James Ruppert is so right about the post-war attitude of the British to Japanese cars. I threatened to buy one and my father pleaded with me not to reward them for their extreme cruelty - yet neither mother nor father had any qualms about buying German or Italian cars. I guess it was understandable given the number of their friends who had suffered so terribly at the hands of the Japanese and who continued to do so right through to the sixties and seventies.
I agree. There’s a lot of people buying Mags thinking they’re buying a quality vehicle of British heritage. It’s like people who buy those awful Jeeps thinking they have military WW2 DNA.
Or minis with the rear light clusters done in the Union flag, or shopping at Aldi with Union flags everywhere Flag shagging idiots
At least originally the Chinese ones were built up here from kits so it employed a few workers but now it's all from China and the old factory is now just an import and distribution centre. Nothing British about it any more.
I'm glad I couldn't afford the XC90, it was a blessing in disguise, my Honda CRV is still going on strong like new.
I am especially disappointed in how the iconic London black cabs are now made by 'London EV Company' - a Chinese company (Geely). My job involves helping people into cabs and so far this month while dealing with these electric taxis I've encountered a door handle on the verge of sliding off, last night a woman's coat got caught in a loose piece of trim and the other day a taxi driver ended up having to give up in his attempt to pick up a couple as after countless attempts the doors just refused to open altogether!
Geely are a very good company.
They have owned them for over 10 years.
I had motorcycles for over 50 years, never heard one good word for the Chinese makes
My Dad and his brother, fell out for a while when his brother bought a Triumph Acclaim (rebadged Honda) in the early 80s. Dad had seen what the Japanese POW camps had done to his Best friend. Conversely, Dad was happy to drive the VW camper we hired for a camping trip..
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Your Dad is a hypocrite. The Germans murdered about six million Jews and five million prisoners of war from 1941 to 1945. They didn't just treat them badly, they murdered them! I hope your Dad felt comfortable with that whilst he happily drove his German VW camper.
I remember one of my college lecturers. He was very slim and had a weak voice. One night, he was looking outside the window and made a noise a lot like a cat looking at birds through a window. One of my classmates asked him what was up. The lecturer said he could see someone driving a Japanese car. It turned out he had been a prisoner of war of the Japanese and had got that undernourished he had three heart attacks whilst a prisoner...... He really could not understand why anyone could buy Japanese products. To this day, I think of him when I am buying something made in Japan.........
All down to price. The brits as a race are now , in the majority , a "must have now with the latest number plate " They will buy a polished turd if it had the latest number plate on it. Where have we gone wrong 😢 ?
Don't include me in that majority, I drive a perfectly good 22 year old car and own a 5 year old phone that I obtained second hand .
@@jasoneldridge4738 hi Jason certainly dont include everyone. I drive a 10 year old car and a 25 year old classic. I am aiming my comments at thd majority of car owner. Just look at the number of green tags appearing on must have latest EV . I did qualify it by saying " in the majority"
Hi Most people don't understand that MG and Volvo are Chinese brands with a nice badge that they feel they can trust. The sheeple are buying Chinese because they are cheep. I don't understand why our lack of government hadn't put a steep import duty on Chinese products Keep up the good work
Don't forget about Lotus, Polestar and the London Taxi company .
Problem is almost everything you buy is made in China, even if it has a British brand name. My sister bought a MG ZS and was shocked when I told her it was made in China!
What a great conversation! Thank you
My father in law has stopped driving so he said I could have his hybrid mini I used the excuse it couldn't take a towbar and traded it for a new Dacia Duster it's brilliant
My old man was in Wolfsburg in '46-47 putting the roof back on the VW factory. He always said it was a mistake.
Having seen the rust under an MG after 2 years on the road I wouldn't touch one with a barge pole. Add on the fact that the spare parts network is pretty much non existent, these are pretty much disposable cars, just like a Huawei phone.
What kind of phone do you have . If I may ask ?
The Price is Right!
The slur on British Leyland cannot go unanswered. I had a 1.8l Mk1 Morris Marina Estate which was a very comfortable, reliable and very roomy car. Regrettably, the 1.7l Mk2 estate that I bought afterwards was a heap of oil burning junk with a badly designed interior. The 1.4l Metro Automatic that I had later however showed that BL could do things really well- great performance and enough room to get the family of 4 plus luggage to the airport with comfort. I also have a soft spot for the original Mini- not the huge machine currently using the name. I think the peak of British car reliability was in the early 80s. Electronic ignition but none of the expensive extras that are fitted these days regardless of what the customer wants or needs and no EU interference. I later made the mistake of buying a German made Ford Escort and it was worse than that Mk2 Marina. Since those days, my wife and I have both had British made Nissans and they have been very good. My younger son has a Nissan Leaf and it is very comfortable, but I am not tempted by EVs and I wouldn't touch a Chinese one with a bargepole. The benefits of EVs to the environment are overstated. EVs are heavier, so more road wear and tyre life is apparently much shorter. As regards MG and Volvo now under Chinese ownership, that is sad but typical of their acquisition policies.
In a traffic jam the other day, the car in front of me spelled out its logo (BYD) Build Your Dreams; really? More like Bugging Your Data. QED.
I like what someone else put, Burn Your Driveway!! BYD are catching fire left, right and centre in china. White washed all over in the UK
The Chinese EV market is in crisis so they are dumping cut price EV’s on the world market.
Great news for us.
@@AdrianMcDaid not when they have control of your vehicle and its cameras.
@@keegan773 are you control camera on your phone your using right now ?
People did not quickly adopt Japanese cars for a number of reasons. Before the 70s they were not very good. They had strange quirks like the indicator stick was on the opposite side to any other car. And parts were expensive and not so readily available
Had a Chinese motorcycle, didn't buy a 2nd........
Was is that good that you're never replacing it?
Why did you buy it for over others ?
@@AdrianMcDaid cost and availability, we were getting off road motorcycles and we took a van down to Hull from Scotland, Chinese off road motorcycle was £400. We picked up a Suzuki 125 two-stroke, RM model that day, the Chinese bike was interesting as was four stroke 125cc (great engine) but was let down by horrendous quality of metal and plastic parts
I'm not anti Chinese, far from it but my personal experience with a cheap 2nd hand motorcycle 🏍 put me off further Chinese vehicles if that motorcycle was an example of poor quality metal and plastic compared to Japanese motorcycles.
@@TheVicar ha ha, yes, hadn't thought of it that way, actually wish it kept it . Great little engine but overall poor quality.
My Dad bought a brand new Toyota Carina in 1974 ! It blew everything out of the water ! Reliable, well built. Metallic paint and it had a push button AM radio !
I used to work for a small rural Fiat dealer. When we had some new cars arrive we had to fetch them from a larger dealer a few miles away and drive them back not far just delivery mileage. Anyway this large dealer also sold Datsuns and they were like luxury vehicles at a budget price. The Datsun Cherry had everything included and was far superior to the Fiat 127. They were equal in some ways. Which one would rust away quicker??? lol
Choice is good for the end customer.
my sister and husband just bought chinese M G plug in hybrid . i hope she wont be disappointed with it . 1 year old ,less than 3000 miles on the clock . i wouldnt want one if it was given to me .
My mrs has just returned from China - there are dozens of ev’s over there for £10k brand new. Loads of discounts. Will probably blow up but hey….
It seems the modern generation think it is the norm that nothing lasts more than 3 yrs !
Vast majority of uk car buyers have no clue anymore.
They're not unknown brands after social media adverts have been forced down your neck for a few months before release.
My Uncle had an Audi 80L in about 1973, it was magnificent. He ran it for 5 years when most Brits changed their car every 3 years!
Uh, just watched this most excellent discussion a few mins ago.
Yeah sorry about that, wanted to upload this as a standalone.
Few people mention EV's is insurance costs, a basic Tesla model 3 is a higher insurance group than a BMW M3
The M3 will go twice as far and sound 100x as good too 😂
Actually I was pleasantly surprised at my last insurance renewal with the quote for my Tesla. There are 5 big insurers that tend to cover EVs.
@@stephenbirchall941 Tesla are so boring. Its an old I pad on wheels
@@stephenbirchall941 how much was it?
@@Technical5tuff £1200 for a high performance EV. For comparable ICE cars, you have to pay quite a lot too. The downside to EVs on price is you pay a bit more for insurance and tyres but brakes last forever due to regen braking and filling up at home is very cheap and convenient. Owners typically say between £6 and £12, depending on your tariff.
Ah yes, an old codger reminiscing with a whipper snipper about the good ol’ days. When men where men, women knew their place and friendly motorcyclists could be identified by the flies in their teeth. The same ol’ days, children died of measles and pneumonia, parents where terrified of polio, orphans were offloaded to Australia and most could not afford a car, let alone a new one!
Now motercyclists have no teeth: NHS Dental care
@@bernardrobinson5942I absolutely LOVE Britain and are as sad as you must be at some of the (perceived?) decline. Still, my gripe is not with Britain per see, but with some of the blithe attitudes toward innovation and progress, evident on this and other vlogs. (Greetings from an old, continental ton-up boy, now living in ‘stralia…
It's sad watching from the sidelines what's happening to the car industry, all driven by useless governments around EVs.
My dad never owned a Japanese car because of the WW2 prison camps and I will never own an EV because im not a virtue signalling idiot.
My next car will most likely be Chinese but it will be a full hybrid..already tried BEV for 3 years. Longest 3 years of my life!
They're happy to buy EVs because Labour told them to be.
Like they told them to buy Diesel.
The Chinese "Acquired" Volvo to destroy it.
@@johncolley3317 Unfortunately
I think they just dragged it down to their level
Aren’t Polstar, Tesla and many other “ main brand”’EVs also made in China 🤷♂️
Geoff has already given a financial dissection of the relationship between Volvo, Polecat and Geely (who own both), so have a look at that,. And Yes, Tesla have a mega factory in China, which is why Mr Musk only insults non chinese people.
Drive a Chinese built Tesla and love it and planning to get an MG4 X power EV in near future.
0% APR available on the MG4. I wish more manufacturers would follow suit.
What? Making terrible cars or offering cheap finance? They will probably throw in a suitable kidney for transplant if you ask nicely.
The ex series from Volvo are simply terrible in terms of interior! Something Volvo was so good at!!! Everything had a flow and great placement, and nice buttons, now... Shit large display, and then on the ex90 a tiny tablet looking thing that looks shit and cheap with no home. So diy looking, and then ex30 even a bigger offender with no speedometer at all!!! Just terrible!!! A real shame! I will keep my 2014 v40 thank you very much!!!
People buying Chinese EV's because of price. However, most EV's are made with Chinese batteries and parts, whatever badge is on it!
I will never buy a Chinese car or an EV from any manufacturer.
It's a massive payback for the Opium Wars.
Not like the English to start war.
Watching this video reminds me of diecast model of a borg ward SUV I thought that brand was german but The Borgward BX7 is a Sino-German compact luxury crossover SUV from the Borgward Group and produced in China by Foton Motor.
I've always bought British cars from the 1960s onwards, though I did own a few foreign ones as well, i always returned to the Brits. All my British cars started in the morning, or indeed anytime I wanted them too. Even today I drive a Rover 45 fitted with a Rover K series, its the 3rd Rover fitted with this Engine and I've never had a head gasket go on any one of them either. 😊 Im often driving down to London or Kent on the M1 and M25 and yes , ive also noticed a growing profusion of MG cars and wondered if people are buying them as the last vestige of a 'British' car. These cars are also powered by Rovers K series engine, (in truth a truly brilliant design) though it now called something else and built by SAIC in China. Though MG cars are headquartered and designed in the UK, so they probably do now have more British connections than anything else now available, sadly !
Also early Japanese cars had poor sustainability such as heavy rust issues, similar to Fiat. But they soon learned and now top the annual reliability list, mainly Toyota.
I remember many people back in the 60's who wouldn't buy German and Japanese, it was as Rupert said the way it was back then. He was spot on about the Japanese and how just about everyone back then had had a part in WW2 and 1. Now the old guard are almost gone and we are where we are.
The anti Japanese feeling in Australia but we came round to Japanese cars in the 1970s when Australians realised how reliable they are and it has carried on today we get Chinese vehicle's in Australia and we get LDVs and they rust in Australia l can see why they don't sell them in the UK and the LDVs are vans and a 4X4 ute also we get the Chinese EVs you know the ones that catch fire they all do particularly in China
Yeah, the Bury Your Dead brand😂
Because they have an MG, Range Rover and Jaguar badge.... 😂
What values do the younger generations have if this is true? Cheapness over ethics? Is this what the world of advertising and the Internet does to your soul?
The younger generations will squeal about ethics, but when it comes to the crunch they will always forget that and go with what is easy for them.
@zm321 Seems to be the way, even when they lose freedom of speech, they will stare at their mobile screens or look at the floor with a blank expression. Soulless.
They're (relatively) cheap, and that's for a reason. Too many people are still completely naive.
My parents won’t let me have a starlet as my first car coz of what my grandparents said. Now I own Jdm legends still not owned a starlet!
Mao's Garage = MG
The UK is obsessed with buying cheap Chinese junk....one could have brought a Honda from Swindon that was a car for 20 years.... Gracies to debacle of Brexit they packed up and left.....😂😂😂
Since China became the factory of the world, it was inevitable that consumers ended up with a full range of products that are made there even if they truly believed they were buying something manufactured in the UK, or Sweden. The problem will always be quality, because, for the Chinese supplier, it's invariably about quantity.
Because they are Mad
…and foolish 🙈
If I scraped my car I would get 200 for it probably more just a guess!!! But in five years time you will have to pay them to take it off your hands
I love my Chinese MG 4 nearly as much as I loved my MG Montego .The worst car I have ever owned was a VW Golf rust breakdowns etc .After Rover group closed I went Japanese now I have gone Chinese
Safety safety safety!!! But people are Sheeple 🤑🤑
I will never buy a Chinese car. My mission now is to see if I can keep my Mercedes E Class diesel running for the next 20 years
The ol’ kitchen sinks have tapped into the power of the virtue signal.
I would buy a British EV but there aren't any decent ones. Why have we let our manufacturing industry decline so much? I've therefore bought one built elsewhere.
Same here in Israel, lots of fools have been purchasing unknown flashy expensive Chynese EV's, at high prices with no support network.
What means MG now these days ...Mao's Garages??
Modern Gentleman Yes, really
I wont touch electric cars. No range slow to charge and a fire hazard.
My Volvo XC40 inscription 2.0 turbo petrol was made in Ghent Belgium they are now building them in China WTF.❤
Just a thought if all imported EVs had a return to contry of origin clause when knackered or scrapped ,would this not help to improve the import quality??
No
@@alanpartington2540 fair nuff
945 was the last good Volvo
A ev battery scrapyard has been burning for three days in Scotland , ts ridiculous.
The one that recycles Lithium Ion, all types, EV and portable. NiMH. NiCad, both wet and dry cell. Alkaline. Lithium Primary. And more…..
Since you mention previous adversaries of GB I must say it seems you have forgiven the US for 1776 since our visit to England was one of our best vacations ever. Of course, I didn't mention that there was an original German in your midst since I tried to avoid a scene a la "Faulty Towers - the Germans are coming" ---- my favorite show.
I always think the English and Germans share so much in common in terms of culture, compared to other European nations, but then again alot of England's history is Saxon.
@@jasoneldridge4738 As well as some of your Royalty which I hope you never give up.
Historically, like many Euro markets, UK drivers are used to finicky budget vehicles like Renault, Citroen, and Fiat that place budget ahead of quality or reliability. This is what SAIC is doing with MG. Eventually, less budget concious brands like NIO, Xpeng, and GAC will sell, too. People have heard of them, you haven't. But many Chinese brands aren't bad car brands. Some are! MGs aren't good, but the afformentioned perfectly fine and easily comparable to Euro cars.
Im happy to stick with my Morris Ital VW Golf Mk4s & my D2 Discovery.. just getting pissed off with insurance.. my VW renewal at 43 from £333 to £598 12+yrs NCB.!!! Thats nearly double.!!
Sounds alright me
Brits are buying/leasing these ev’s because we are obsessed with shiny and new , doesn’t matter in a couple of years it will be junk . People didn’t buy German cars years ago because of the price , quality costs more.
If you have a regular car made by a European or even an American car brand, most of the parts it is assembled from will have been made in China. EU and US moved all manufacturing to China in the 1980's as a deliberate, planned, move. Everyone knows an MG4 is Chinese. Same goes for a 'Volvo' Polestar. The MG4 is an excellent value for money EV, that is why people buy them.
With a hilarious in a perfect world range of 360 km. I’ll be doing that next weekend each day (there and back) on two weekend day trips each day - with a 5 minute refuel. Not an hour + recharge.
On the contrary, China has become the largest manufacturer on the planet. Its goods are in most people’s homes. Its EVs will prove, by price and quality a big seller around the world. As does its solar, solar equipment, and batteries. The irony of China coal powered electricity generators is not lost on me. Nor the fearful US, as it slips from top spot, boycotting Chinese goods. New ICE has eleven years, a world wide oil crisis is not impossible. Things must change.
what happened to volvo ? they became a luxury brand here the XC60 is 52-70k GBP equivalent I see they slashed 6000GBP on your prices we still have the "old price" way too expensive edit : scratch that xc60 core is 59528gbp now "only" 16'000GBP more than in the UK geez
Volvo were never luxury. Safe and boring.
Congrats to them about buying a CCP car.
I have no desire to buy a ev of any discription or make,that said I bought a Huawei mobile phone for my daughter,she was a I phone fan and wouldn't have anything else,I got tired of being robbed by apple so bought the Chinese phone 3 years ago ,it's the best phone she's ever had ,I bought another 2 ,one each for me and my wife and I have to say they are very very good,I have no idea if this carries over to their car manufacturing though.