LET'S TALK TECH-HOOKER TURBO MANIFOLDS & BACK PRESSURE
2022 ж. 8 Қар.
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I AM WORKING ON A VIDEO WHERE I TESTED THE HOOKER/HOLLEY TURBO MANIFOLDS VS TURBO HEADERS ON A TURBO LS. I MEASURED POWER , TORQUE, BOOST AND BACK PRESSURE. PLUS, LET'S TALK ABOUT TWO COOL (NON CAR GUY) MOVIES- BALLS OF FURY AND DODGE BALL!
Think you sir for you knowledge and information sharing!
Hey Richard just wanted to say thank you, i’m starting my single turbo C6 corvette build this week and these videos have been a LIFE SAVER. I am going to be running the Hooker log style on the passenger side with the stock drivers side manifold with a custom crossover pipe. I am shooting for very low boost (7-8psi) on my 78/75 on my LS3. Thank you for all the videos and keep them coming as I start my wacky winter garage build!
A 3.5 liter Ford V6 Big Bang engine would be fun someday, they are getting easy to find in the yards.
Balls of fury is Great 😃! I've been interested to see some tests on this hooker setup I'm about to bolt one on that I have to run a 7875 with on a 6.1. but I almost want to test it against the stock truck manifolds that I currently have on the car just in normally aspirated trim to see what it does to the normally aspirated horsepower
You can street drive with a electric water pump. I did it with a SBC and never had any issues. Even on the interstate for several hour's.
the issue really isn't at cruise or idle rpm and load, it is at higher wot loads without changing the pump speed.
That manifold is very similar to the 6.2/6.5 diesel turbo manifold.
I’m about to test the Holley Turbo manifolds on a 365” s480 on E85 on the dyno tomorrow. I’ll try to report back for the results. Goal is 800/850 wheel through a 4l80. Should be simple enough.
Tony angelo now on hagerty youtube channel just made an exhaust for a turbo setup on some silver coupe mercury (maybe) thing that looked like the left to right bank back pressure will be completely unbalanceed ( way more than the hooker manifold ). Unless the stockish EFI can handle significantly different mapping for each bank i'm guessing half the plugs will fowl and half the pistons will melt but it'll be a fun ride.
All the exhaust ports are connected, there isn't a huge difference in pressure *within* the system, mapping does not care, Saab built a V6 with a turbo on one bank only. Ran just fine.
@@jamesgeorge4874 Thanks man, super interesting on the SAAB. went down a rabitt hole and found a bloke in a forum who stated "I've worked with plenty of Saab tuning systems before; they do adjust fuel individually and on the single turbo v6 setup they run different timing maps on each bank and use compression response knock sensing." this made sense to me so i stopped researching.....there were actually quite a few references to the trionic EMS being "highly advanced" very interested to see if the higher overall static pressure makes the cylinder perform similarly enough to make up for one banks air doing a hard 180. should defiantly be more even than the saab.
@@daleanderson7629 I had not thought about Saab's "Trionic" ECU that uses the spark plug as an ion sensing in-the-cylinder pressure sensor, they had been doing that since the 80's, GM copied it for the first generation Saturn, interesting when you are chasing a P0340 "cam sensor" dtc, because their is no cam sensor, the spark plugs do that job.
Maybe somehow the original video got set for private/unlisted? I remember you discussing it and that there would be a video, and I saw the Engine Masters episode on headers vs. hooker manifold.
better scavenging+less BP= ~44hp
Richard you did the Holley manifold video before. I saw it. but when I went to find it, it was gone...
I thought so
Hey Richard. I’m doing a boosted 408 with these manifolds. Should I look at forward facing headers instead and was also wondering if a 92mm TB on a TBSS intake on CNC Texas speeds 799 heads will be sufficient for my engine. Also not sure what size turbo to get. As of now I have the short block with 799 that aren’t ported and the intake and TB and the hooker manifolds
Depends on what kind of power you want to make? That's what Richard will ask you. With that list of parts though one would think you should have a pretty good idea what turbo to run if you're going to run a single with those parts
In general, the smallest turbo to meet your horsepower goal usually works the best esp for the street. For racing a larger turbo might be better provided you can spool it.
Well.....all this talk about Turbos and such, and now I'm having visions of "Power Add Ons"................
Hey Richard you ever test the On3performance stage 2 turbo cam ?
no sir-but I bet I know what it does
Have you done a review on the Amazon single turbo manifold?
You mean the hotparts t4 setup?
@@motherlovinsnuffstar yes
Richard do you have any info on the Fahler Speed and performance manifolds?
I will be running them soon
I’m eyeballing the Huron setup which is similar
@@richardholdener1727 I ordered a set, about a 6 week backlog. Hoping they are good…
Do you not think these manifolds a made for (mostly) dudes that will use them On their daily hot rod and not for high rpm all the time as in racing aka lower rpm.
NOT RPM BASED-BUT POWER AND FLOW BASED APPLICATIONS-BUT GUYS HAVE RUN OVER 1000 HP WITH THEM
How is flow to the gate and boost control on those hooker headers
@Papa's Garage yeah nice 👍 any cracks or warping yet? Is it twins or with a crossover pipe?They definitely look clean and there’s no risk of the turbine eating a bit of weld
Is it necessary for me to drink my own urine no but it's sterile and I like the way it tastes
Why twin turbo and not same money on a 200 shot and single turbo?
It's got to make bottom and spool quick plus it's a cool charge.
@@KimiWallrus so how does two turbo’s spin faster than one of adequate size? From what I’ve seen twins being more responsive is a myth!based on 1980s Japanese engines choose the correct single and it’ll spool!
@@needmoreboost6369 Anything will spool quicker on nitrous and nothing has zero turbo lag.
@@KimiWallrusn2o is definitely a good pick me up for any engine! I’m Not competitive racing mine so it’s not that important as just making it usable and fun to drive,the turbo being about 8’ away from the engine id used compressed air anti lag at one point and thought about n2o like e85 but it’s hard to get where I am. I’d gone through a few different turbo’s and housings and I’ve sacrificed top end for responsiveness using a cheap ball bearing gtx35/82r I’d tried.63 but it was hard to keep it under vacuum on the hwy and was ready to kill at any moment! lol but with.82 housing it’s on boost as quickly as it can downshift, but it’ll cruise like n/a and go full sleeper,on a stock converter it was lazy but the factory one has been modified for 2650rpm with 3.73 diff now it’ll light em up rolling and it’s still got near factory cruising at 100kmh it’s around 2100-2200rpm
@@needmoreboost6369 I will pivot from my position in that a big turbo AND a 200 shot would create quite the cylinder bangs and probably not feasible for a driver with a stock converter. "Converter and eighth mile....making poor motors live for twice as long on big cylinder pressure."
1 hour + video is too much to sit through, just post a video with the test and results.
10-12 min video is loading today-this is a live feed discussion
@@richardholdener1727 DONT LISTEN TO THESE SHORT ATTENTION SPAN UNAPPRECIATIVE TYPES RICHARD. MANY OF US APPRECIATE THE SHARING OF KNOWLEDGE AND HAVE THE BRAIN CELLS AND BANDWITH TO FOLLOW.