Kia Sonet First Impressions | MotorInc First S02E03
The Kia Sonet, the indulgent small SUV, as Kartikeya Singhee likes to call it has been updated with small design changes, improved drivability, better suspension tuning and a more comfortable interior. On MotorInc First, Kartikeya has the full details on why the Sonet is even more impressive now.
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MotorInc First is a discussion between experts Kartikeya Singhee and Shumi (Shubhabrata Marmar), co-founders of MotorInc on new vehicles. Each episode will discuss one vehicle in great detail, covering the experience of driving or riding it, as well as what it means for the industry.
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CHAPTERS
00:00 Bhopal & Kia Sonet
01:55 What's Changed
04:37 What Needed To Be Fixed
07:34 Cabin Updates
09:34 More Equipment
10:30 Styling Updates
11:36 The Kia App
15:15 Better Back Seat
18:45 Driving The Petrol Sonet
22:51 Sonet Off-Road
23:59 More Driveable
25:53 Driving The Diesel Sonet
31:00 Kartikeya's Picks
32:53 Small Details
34:52 New ADAS Systems
39:08 Bose Sound System
39:31 vs Tata Nexon
42:11 Driving Modes
43:11 Kartik's Caveats
44:06 Quick Summary
48:33 Crash Test Ratings
55:52 Closing Comments
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Hullo! Thanks for joining us here! As it turned out / right after we finished this recording - Kia did confirm that there is a change in the tune for the engines to improve drivability. I think it was a much needed fix. Also - happy to see all-wheel disc brakes on the Sonet too - but didn’t really feel a difference in the conditions we were in. Need some proper hard braking for that to kick in. Look forward to testing that out.
please make a video on renault kiger
The fact that Karthik Sir describes the suspension sounds so well is what would make the audio podcast versions of these episodes sooooo much more fun..
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No click bait, no baised or unbiased reviews...just two auto loving friends sharing their experiences with eachother and us....from the 1st video till date, I Just love watching and listening to you guys.....keep this originality ❤❤❤
Thanks so much SS!
Which car you have
I think they are unbiased which is epic. But how can they be not biased nor unbiased.
There is something about these two, where i am watching a vehicle review and can't stop gushing and smiling because of their playful banter. Lot's of love to you both! I am planning to buy a new car this year, and will be heavily relying on you for an informed decision making.!
Hey Ajinkya! Thanks for kicking off this conversation - always happy to have new car discussions! Keep us posted!
Ajinkya, the exact same feeling has led me to book my first bike! My wife is amazed and flustered in equal measures when she sees me glued to KZhead or Spotify with wide grins or loud guffaws! Huge love to the entire MotorInc team! ❤❤
I think you guys should have some YT live sessions on car/bike recommendation based needs
Also I bought the facelifted Nexon in Nov based on your reviews... And yes I know what you meant by that tilted screen expression 😂
Hey Sumit! Congratulations! Which engine? Please keep us posted don how it goes! Thanks!
I'd really appreciate it if you could make a MotorInc Spark episode about road safety and car safety. I agree with your thoughts on focusing more on preventing accidents in the first place by driving well. For me, I don't consider crash test rating to help me when I mess up but more when some random drunk driver from the opposite lane crashes into you even when you drove sensibly and with good awareness.
That is true. However most people seem to consider that responsibility of being safe is transferred to the car and hence safer car makes you safe. Which is not the case.
In case of an accident where the car driver has very little to do yes the cars build and all of that is important. However most accidents could be avoided by the not so “common” sense! I mean landslide, cars jumping from the other side and on your car must be less than 1% Totally seconded, an episode on “HOW TO DRIVE also ROAD MANNERS” would add so much value! Not just drivers and bikers but also pedestrians at times!!! Lookkng forward to it
@@puushkardhharaap just by limiting use of high beams, slowing down on junctions and using turn indicators, I bet accidents would go down significantly.
Just can't get enough of these two guys! Love them and whatever they do!
Thank you for being here with us!
Please let karthik speak.
Yes please.
Karthik was just playing Kevin De bruyne
Googling that!
A. He is letting him speak. B. Here for Shumi's interruptions and "bad" jokes, not for the boring Sonet, so no, please keep interrupting Kartik (as interesting as he always is too).
@@MuditBadlanitrue Already bought HTX+ turbo imt. Pre facelift
This is how a review should be unlike many others influencers talking about things already mentioned on a car brochure
Hey Shumi, Karthik, fan from UK here. Moving back home to Bengaluru after 14 long years and researching automatic cars left, right and centre! I enjoyed this episode for everything that it had especially the last part with safety discussions and Karthik's agro mode! On the Sonet ADAS, i wonder if there is a known answer to whether the intensity of steering input to lane keep assist could be changed in driver settings? I have thr camera based level 1 on my A4 here and that lets me choose the input level! PS: Shumi, for what it is worth, I think you taking up some of the air-time in Karthis's points is very nice and pleasant to see. Keeps this light hearted and enjoyable rather than make it feel like a serious discussion about someone's funeral arrangements. Great job guys🎉
Fact fact🙌
Thanks for the the clarity on this critical topic.. My driving condition are very 70% Delhi Bumper to Bumper Traffic and 30% highway. I believe I should go for TC or CVT to avoid the complications. 😊
Just like Shumi, even I have so many questions! 1. Why do manufacturers insist on touch controls? Looking at you, Tata! Why do I have to take my eyes off the road to change the AC? 2. What is with gloss panels inside which scratch if I breathe on them? Who thought this was a good idea? 3. How hard is it to improve the sound damping? Just add more foam. 4. Why are touch screens so shitty? 5. Why do manufacturers not offer the top variant without sunroofs? Who needs a sun roof in India?
We have a question too! What do you drive! 😃
I presume the sound dampening costs more money because that's one of the main differentiators between an economy car and a luxury car.
@@muthukumaranc agreed. But some of it can be resolved with better insulation, right? I get that reducing vibrations from engines is difficult and costly.
@@motorinc after watching kartik's video, I am no longer buying a new car, other than my Tata tiago. I just rent something bigger for long trips. Most of the cars today are excellent but these tiny niggles are so irritating!
I do. I have the old Sonet GT Line DCT and use my sunroof regularly. Even in the summers, in the evenings, I love to open the Sunroof, really gives me a great feeling. Don't know much about others though. My daughter loves to poke out of the Sunroof, which I completely disapprove and just stop the car whenever she does that. She's learnt now not to do it! We also use it for taking some really cool pics on our road trips!
Dear MotorInc team, Never have I laughed so much the way I did for this one. The cheesy banter between these two were cracking me up all the time and though the interruptions to Karti's smooth delivery could be irritating at times, it is what makes the episodes great, so Shumi, poke as much as you can :P. Shumi has mischief written in his face all over, and he is always up to poke Karti whenever chance arises, lol. That being said, great content as always, keep it going. I must say that 2024 Kia Sonet is what I feel as a perfectly rounded car, much better than the new Creta for that matter. The amount of features at its disposal, armed with the plethora of engine + gearbox combos makes it one among the perfect cars to upgrade to. Had the 1.5L + 6MT been there last year, I would have definitely overlooked every con that I have wrote below and bought that as I feel a diesel is best experienced with a manual. Kia Sonet was a close contender for me during my car shopping last year. It was a well rounded car and ticked all the right boxes(almost). The showroom experience was pretty good and consistent. I test drove all the available combos(excluding the baseline one), and here is what I felt, which resonated Karti's thoughts pretty much : Kia Sonet(1.0T + 6IMT) :- Felt lethargic thanks to the turbo lag, followed by a jackhammer kick once the turbo spools up. The iMT was much better than the horrendous AMTs. Kia Sonet(1.0T + 7DCT) :- Felt like magic at work. Shifts were almost imperceptible and worked like a charm. Could only imagine how the DSG's performed, which definitely would be on another level. The ideal engine + gearbox combo in the petrol guise. Kia Sonet(1.5L + 6AT) :- The most reliable combo, I feel. However I couldn't connect with the car much, and the car felt slightly sluggish, though I wouldn't doubt its long distance mile munching capabilities one bit. Kia Sonet(1.5L + 6iMT) :- Had fun driving this variant. Felt like the best of both worlds on offer. The raw feel of a manual turbo-diesel car without the headache of clutching / FE worries. Reasons why I chose not to go for this car : 1. Our relatively low monthly mileage target(could have overlooked this bit still, if not for points 2&3) 2. DEF / DPF related concerns that could affect peace of mind. 3. Future of diesel vehicles thanks to the changing government norms. 4. The rear seat was not a very comfortable place to be in thanks to the premium space on offer.(Could have overlooked still) 5. The stiff ride quality. This was a strict no for me. Especially when you go over the unscientific speed breakers in our cities, you will be reminded very sharply of the same, especially when you are in the rear seats. Cheers, NI
Thanks so much NI! It’s awesome to get a peek at your analysis! Will be super helpful for others too!
Hands down 🙌 this was probably the most funniest Motorinc First video till date 😂. Really enjoyed it.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks VM!
Hi you both doing a great job. Really like listening to you!!!! One question - as per you which is the best body color option in new Sonet ( except Matt grey).
No shouting about the new features. That by itself makes this a much better approach to review a car. Great video team.
Thanks a ton! We'll pass your compliments on to the team FK!
The initial tune is so good. It has that different vibe. I made it my ringtone.
Woah! Cool!
Knowing about any vehicle has never been such a light, funny and informative experience! GREAT... 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed that, Santosh!
I loved the this ep of motorinc first and specially the ThisConnect part at the end 😆
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I think the camera feature would be useful for the mall parking as they have pillers marked with number where we park the cars and it the camera could capture that then while returning home from the mall when you enter the parking area, you need not have to remember where exactly you have parked the car. The photo would capture the piller number around the vehicle and you can reach that exact spot.
Or you could just take a picture from your phone when you park the car 😬 Also - network in basement parking - 😅
On a 2 wheeler we just ping piller number on WhatsApp to ourselves 😊
Love the podcast style first impression for cars too
Thanks! Glad to hear that!
Random thought, but Kartikeya's T-shirts are seriously cool. So minimalist, so chill.
😃 Thank you!
Hi we're looking to buy the Dct Htx variant. Wanted to know if the cabin is quieter in the nexon or the sonet. Thanks!
Lovely, captivating start, as always. 😅
Thank you so much Ishaan!
I just loved the conversations here :)
You both are wonderful, continue to do the amazing job you both do. God bless you both.
Thank you so much!
Had the opportunity to talk to Shumi yesterday, keep up the good work!!!
Awesome! Good to see you here too!
I've lived in Bhopal for almost all of my life. Feels proud to hear the praises of our bada taalaab (bhojtal/upper Lake).
Kartikeya was awed by it! Lucky you!
Every time a new video drops, me (excited to see what you folks have to say) and my 3 y old daughter (excited to dance on the intro music), we both get on the floor and express our joY!
Oh man Manoj! Thank you so much for sharing that with us! Hugs to your daughter too - the youngest member of the MotorInc Fam!
Awesome Podcast as usual... the summary rating is 17/10. Love you people @ Motorinc
Aww man! Thanks so much!
Dear Shumi and Karthikeya Thank you so much for that digression in the end. I was one of those people who bothered about crash ratings without reading the fineprint. But after listening to Karthikeya's statement about his Ignis, I realised i've always driven a Maruti myself, I consider myself to be a half sensible driver and I've never been in a crash or an accident. And I also love driving my maruti which probably was never crash tested! I agree that there should be certain features pertaining to safety and collision avoidance as standard, but this mindless reliance of crash ratings, as you so rightly pointed out, is stupid. Thank you for allowing me a chance to learn something. You've earned yourself a subscriber! Regards!
Hullo! Thank you so much for sharing your slice of life with us. Glad we could help. ❤️
I feel the safety point has been beautifully articulated.
You guys are awesome, informative & entertaining... love watching you both.
Thanks so much!
I always forget to comment this but whoever made your intro music needs a raise or a bonus. It's awesome!
Hey ADG! Thanks a ton for that!
I am sitting in a cafe and laughing my lungs out. Thank you sooo much for the digression at the end. It is literally amazing how you both make so much sense even when you guys are pissed off. I am so glad to have spent my one hour here. 🤜🏼
Hope you timed your sips of coffee right! Hehe Thanks so much for telling us about it! Feels like we were there!
Bro I love your channel. Thank you so much
- Shumi forgot the cup holders! - The tilt is the off-center tilt of the Harrier/Safari's steering? - Are the tyres the same on diesel and petrol ? - Really love this format. Shumi's hard reasoning on cars and their features is not just hilarious but also brings important things into perspective. - Kartik's experience and hang of cars speaks for itself with the change in engine tune confirmed by Kia. - Ignis is a keeper. - Kartik, what you described was classic T2 traffic which I experience everyday. - Star ratings, is just noise as the important info is never talked about. All the info is available on BNCAP's website and I doubt if anyone bothered to read the AIS 197 specs available in the resources section. MotorInc, we need a separate episode on this and Shumi's comments are bang on point. Folks have to understand that the crash test protocols cannot be described in a short or a reel, needs way more patience and reasoning.
Hey SD! Thanks again! Kartik is passing on - ❤️!
Wow! So many things that you explained, all the other reviewers of sonet have missed absolutely! Own the first gen Turbo petrol DCT! Really great that they fixed the suspension! Also great that the arm rest at the back seat is back! Looks really good from the rear but from the front i think it looks a bit like the Xuv 300/700. I feel that the Front could have been a little unique and different looking!
Thanks so much RC!
The end part of the conversation was gem. One of my acquaintance recently got a Nexon and was flexing on the safety aspects. I've seen the guy drive and I can assure he will crash a tank. One of the biggest marketing pull offs is the safety rating systems. Safety is important and so is to ensure that proper driving schools exist and licence is not given out to anyone who registers for it.
Good point! Thanks SNair!
Have a doubt here - It definitely would make a lot of difference if people got more careful while driving and thought about their actions on the road before flaunting safety ratings on the road But till that happens we do have a lot of unsafe drivers on the road and is that not exactly a reason why you need a safer car for yourself? Because my safety on the road is not just a consequence of my driving but of others as well, having a better safety rated car would be safer for me or is there not a big difference between 1 star and 5 star rated cars(genuinely curious here)?
You Guys are doing great information sharing , amazing 2 car lovers sharing knowledge ...keep it up guys
Thank you very much!
Simply love the u discussed the ADAS and our understanding of safety......❤
Thank you! Glad it was of help.
40:32 OMG! These people are hilarious!! The way they communicate with each other in a sensible and funny fashion amazes me every single time. I really liked sonet this time because of the slight improvements they added to the table hence this car will be in my list of test drives for sure. I would like to have a ranting session on the Japanese manufacturers by our professors in the name of ThisConnect S2.
Hullo ST! Thanks a ton! And stay tuned for S2!
Eagerly waiting on the Japan rant
i wanted to quit out of this long-ish video review but your conversation is so humane! :)
Wow, thanks!
No nonsense. Class apart. Well done guys.
Love the way u guys speak about cars with utmost clarity in thoughts and so unbiased. As far as this video is concerned it would be perfect if 1.2 NA petrol also had come into discussion!
Thanks SMuthu! Feedback noted!
Hi Kartik and team, Is there a review for 2023 Hyundai Venue in the channel ? I am not able to find it.
This review by MotorInc was instrumental in my decision to buy the Kia Sonet. I feel confident about the Sonet's capabilities and found the perfect car for my needs..! It's been a week with my new Kia Sonet GTX+ 2024 & I am loving it Thanks.
Congratulations. Thanks for sharing! , we are glad it was helpful.
The digression part is the best part, we need more discussion around these topics and henceforth create awareness
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As usual awesome content and review not sure if this was called out but is the petrol engine E20 compliant ? Also what would you suggest to someone looking to buy a new car but the engine as of now is not E20 compliant ? 🤔
Sonet E20 compliance was done last year. Better to get the compliant ones.
Hi Kartikeya.. would you recommend to buy top end Sonet petrol DCT than Honda elevate top end. Which both are in the range of 17-18L
Please have a long form discussion like this dedicated to safety info about cars
Thanks for touching on all important topics. Recently I booked turbo dct htx after putting a lot of thought for not going with diesel imt. It is true in almost all showrooms that they don't have the complete info on the changes that was made in this facelift. Just not sure on mileage figures for Sonet dct as it largely depends on the way we drive (my opinion). Still having second thoughts on not picking Baleno AMT just for the mileage as I also wanted an SUVish car with higher stance. And that my travel requirement is 80:20 ( Highway/city). Wanted to understand what will I get if I choose Sonet over Baleno (leaving aside the okish mileage).
The Baleno will have the better fuel efficiency no matter what. It is very impressive on this front. Do check out our View vid on the Glanza if you haven’t already. If you highway usage is higher then the FE gap will be much narrower. And for the lavish experience - the Sonet is right on top. Hope that helps!
Yooooo! Kudos to you guys. Someone had to say it regarding the damn safety stars!
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What is the additional cost of maintenance for DCT over Manual/IMT gearbox?
Hi, I have a question. How is the duke 250 in comparison to Vstrom. I mean in the rideablity part. I have ridden Vstrom in cities, highways and all. It is a very capable bike, can maneuver in the bumper to bumper traffic, can be ridden hard, doesn't stall at slow speeds and loves to revv as wel. Vstrom is calm and capable. How's the Duke 250 in comparison?
Do you guys have the idea of the fuel efficiency in city conditions for petrol 1.2L
You guys have the most nuanced view on safety ratings in India ❤
Already bought it, loving it.
Thanks for sharing! Appreciate it! Keep us posted please?
Which variant?
39:38, that's Schumi talking about Nexon's misaligned steerings. Many Nexon's and few of the Nexon's that were sold to customers had their steering a little misaligned, meaning, it would go straight only when the steering was slightly turned towards right side.
Nops, the misaligned touchscreen. Check the Nexon review for that
@@SuyashKaul That could be one as well! God so many misaligned things in Nexon 😂
Right on Suyash! Haha
Schumi's knowledge of cars is . Why don't send him for the next car's first drive, hearing his first observations for cars will be fun ....... or it can be a fun episode Kartikeya's observations are really the one which everyone will appreciate in day to day ownership. Great points keep it up!!
Mostly because getting Shumi to agree to go to a car launch is... 😅
Hi @MotorInc, Is the noise isolation better overall and at highway speeds compared to pre facelift one ?
Hard to say right now. But it was quiet.
This helped a ton! Been researching about Sonet1.0L Turbo engine and the infamous 1st-gen suspension. My doubts are cleared and I have decided to book the HTK+ IMT Turbo variant .
What doubt did you had for sonet IMT?
@@DrAmitJain-jz2fm Driving experience.
Hello! I really admire your style of reviewing cars. It feels genuine and organic! Most other "motoring journalists" just read the marketing material provided, without focusing on how that product is really going to add value. (The ADAS rant is totally justified). Last year I ended up buying Nexon petrol AMT, after test driving Sonet DCT and Venue DCT. The cons I felt for the last gen Sonet was the suspension, which was too stiff for my liking and the DCT gearbox was too jittery in the city traffic conditions. But it appears like Kia has listened to it's customers and made the necessary changes. Sonet facelift feels like it will be the best car in it's segment. Would you please share your thoughts or make a video on after sales service experience of the cars? The servicing experience? I think this can be BIG contributing factor when you are making a new purchase. Thank you so much!
Hi Viren! On this front we are asking for your help - as many of you write back to us in the comments about your experience - the more help all of us will have. What do you think? Do let us know how the Tata experience has been.
I would love to share my experience with Tata! Please share your email address as I have many things to share:)
Viren! Here! Where other people can see it too!
@@motorinc My experience with Tata Nexon. Booking the car & delivery: Before finalising Tata NEXON, I had also taken a test drive of Kia SONET and Hyundai venue.after considering many aspects of all the cars and my wife finalised to book NEXON automatic. I booked the car with Sridha Motors in Chakan near Pune. I would like to give a huge shoutout to Abhishek Hingmire who helped us in getting the car in under 60 days of booking while others had to wait for over a period of six months because of various reasons. Abhishek and everyone at the showroom was very helpful and had a great amount of knowledge about the car. They answered all my questions, and believe me there were many:) The is just one thing. I would like to mention here as I’m guessing not many people would know about this. As Tata motors factory is right outside the city of Pune. Most vehicles are driven down to the showrooms and are not delivered on a truck. Therefore, one might find the odometer in the range of mid 60s, and Not under 20 km, as it is usually is. And this was informed to me at the PDI by the showroom associate, so they were very transparent about this. The Car: The Nexon which I have Is a 2023 manufactured model (Bharat 6 Phase 2 compliant engine). The variant is called Nexon XZA plus LUX, which basically means it’s a petrol car with an AMT gearbox, and is without a sunroof. Personally, I am very happy with the car. After driving, the second generation Honda, Jazz, 209 MM of ground clearance is a welcome change. The AMT gearbox, in my opinion, felt better than the DCT of Hyundai, which was very jittery and slightly unpredictable in city driving conditions. I got the delivery of the car in the March of 2023, and I have already completed Little more than 10,000 km of driving. I just have to complaints with the gearbox. 1. Sometimes the car does not shift from first year till it process 30 km/h which is way too high. But if you start driving in manual/sports mode, it will prompt you to up at around 18 km/h. 2. There is a very noticeable lag between you putting the car in particular gear, and the car actually engaging that gear. This sometimes can be very annoying. But let me be very honest. This happens only 3 out of 10 times. Servicing experience: Oh dear! Where do I start? I have got my car. Serviced two times till now both the times I had gone to a different Tata servicing centre in the hope of getting a better service. Talking about my first experience which happened at Katraj in Pune was disappointing because they took took six hours for the things that could have been done in around 90 minutes. And there were just three cars and the entire service station. The second service station was of Tata Dev motors in Pune which is actually a very nice service station with great reviews and great facility. The problem there is that the staff is tremendously overworked. At this time, I was facing some issues with the Glass not working properly at the Driver side window. The issue was resorted immediately and the parts which were changed were under warranty so there were no charges. I just felt that 1. The staff at the servicing station needs to be trained, more about handling the extra workload they will be getting, as Tata is selling so many cars! It just felt that the people there are trying to do everything they can to help the customers but are failing at it because of lack of training and experience. 2. This I think is more to do about the technical side of the thing. In my car, if the car is due for servicing, every time you turn on the ignition, you will receive a notification on the mobile app. After the servicing, they were not able to reset the system in the car to Stop me getting the notification. only to get this issue resolved. I had to wait for additional 45 minutes as there were two technicians working on the issue. This worry as all the next generations of Cars are rely more on technology. I hope that my experience reaches Tata motors through you, and people there are listening to their customers to make their product and services even better. ( I believe in constructive criticism and all this feedback was shared at the service station manager) In closing, I would like to say that for me personally, Nexon is a great product (I am talking specifically about pre-facelift model of 2024). And I hope that Tata motors will have a meaningful conversation with their dealers to improve their service. I hope that my experience will help you in educating more and more people. Thank you so much! P.S. Please consider converting the intro music of this video into a complete track and launching it! It’s a banger😎🤟🏼
Hi could you do a program in adas I mean u said tata adas is not that great Sonet level 1 Adas so can u do a camparo
Hi Kartik, Could you please let me know which one is more practical and value for money car between Sonet HTK 1.2 NA Petrol vs Brezza VXI.
Loved the Bhopal review
Loved being there.
39:40 yes...! Its a digital display mounted on the streeing wheel.
You sure?
Just love that intro and background silence once the hosts start talking..I don’t understand when the car makers give you all the cameras except built in dashcam.
Thank you! Dashcams will become the new rage we think.
Shumi is on point, the view from birla temple is bhopal is best ❤
Oh wow! Kartikeya says he missed out on that.
Superb talk, folks. Would’ve loved it more if the 1.2 petrol NA engine was also discussed as that’s the one most Sonet buyers will be driving.
Thanks SP! Feedback noted!
What if the front suspension of the new sonet can be installed to the older gen. Would u say that will improve the riding comfort?
It would! But you would want all four to be switched to get the balance.
"Becuase there's a system, you must learn how to cheat it" this just made my day. As usual, very enlightening!
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Hey there! I'm in the market for my first four-wheeler and I'm torn between the Venue and the Sonet, both in diesel with manual transmission. It's odd that the Sonet doesn't offer manual in the GT or X line, which is surprising. I'd really appreciate your thoughts, reviews, and any criticism you have about both cars. Thanks in advance!
Bump Stop (usually silicon/rubber) is what stops metal from hitting metal when the suspension exceeds the travel it's designed for.
Yep yep! Thank you!
Love from Bhopal❤
Thanks so much! We loved being there!
Just like the back seat comfort everybody should also provide back seat ventilated seats and in case of 7 seaters back seats must be able to move forward and backward to adjust leg room space
Can you please give your review on mg astor, for 11lakhs is it a good option at 11lakhs cause its base variant has almost every basic things
Finally a Car on First Impressions after so long ❤❤.
Thanks for waiting!
can't get enough of you guys
😃 thanks for being here with us and for the encouragement! ❤️
Ok love everything u guys do ... But it feels like the car segments r comedic relief 😂.. it's fantastic...!!! Can u guys just do weekend podcast about everything and anything on wheels....!!! Early morning ride evening chilling with couple of beers with your videos on ... Oh yeah!!!!! And now its about time u guys swapped .. car reviews with shumi and bikes with karthik..!!
That will be wild!
I agree to the fact that Kartik had to honk in Bhopal. I have seen this in non-metro cities, people don't have a driving sense. I live in Delhi and it's so much more better, most of people atleast follow lanes. Here they have to get to a place and know that discipline is needed for that. The summary is as usual great. I also bought an Ignis as my first car because I trusted Kartikeya had it, it should be good. 😋
True and we're hoping the situation improves, Simar!
Hello Sir Nexon creative plus s vs sonet htx vs brezza zxi plus Which is good plz suggest
I see the kerb weight of sonet is now around 1500 kg which is more than nexon.. does it mean the build quality has increased now in Sonet?
Is Yamaha launching the XSR lineup soon?
The security discussion at end was so good, i bang my head when people bring up verna and scorpio with safety, don't worry my friend i did my research and i get agitated in the same way 🥲, in my case i fear a tad bit in wagonR in ola uber on noida greater Noida expressway but that's about it. Such a good discussion guys these are good cars....we are the problem
Hi Vikrant! Thanks for that!
Hi team...we are eagerly waiting for your views on updated CRETA & most importantly how it stands in comparison with Seltos...,🙏🙏🙏 please upload ASAP
hi, Thankyou for the detailed review but with being shortlisted of buying a Sonet HTX Diesel imt for my Dad as a second car while the first being EcoSport diesel, I am little confused with the Sonet itself that should i get 2024 facelifted ones or the 2023 prefacelift models, (My need is to get Diesel imt) which are getting really good discounts of around 2 lakhs, while this being, is it worth to spend 2 lakhs extra for the facelift? or should settle with 2023 Sonet diesel? is the facelift really worth pushing, 1. Rear Disc Brake 2. Rear seat space, 60:40 split 3.Ventilated seats 4.no alloys on facelift htx 5. 6 airbags 6. Chassis stiffened up (doubtful) 7.New one looks good tho 8. Colour choices
Get the normal it's more than enough
Can we get a video explaining the difference between IMT/DCT and all the other abbreviation of engine options available and which is better?
Gotcha! Thanks for asking, Parth!
The episode reminds me of the Adam west batman tv series with sound effects : twak , keddeng!😂 nice Episode
39:39 talking about the slightly tilted infotainment display in Nexon
I had kwid for 4 years and put 30k km on it and drove it everywhere. Chennai to kaniyakumari and back. I did multiple road trips like that and that was mid variant and a 800cc engineand i was pleased what it had to offer and wonderful machine to learn and taught me a lot about thinking about safety features in the car. I think instead of worrying aboht how many starts it got in safety each drivers should think about what kind of stars they would get in safety rating if they were to rate themselves and am damn sure majority will get zero. Might not mean much but their zero rating means they are putting other people on road in danger.
Perfecto! Are you a 5 star driver? Love it.
@@motorinc i am 4 star driver. Never crashed and wont do any stupid stuff. But i honk a lot coz otherwise this chennai traffic will consume me.
Totally agree with you guys about the safety. While the stars are important, what is way more important is our driving. It is not just about practice like Shumi said, driving is like gym sometimes. You have your off day and your good days. If you feel you are not at your best while driving, you need stop, then make sure you put conscious effort on being attentive and then calibrate your driving accordingly. You also get better each day you drive (just like you get better in lifting weights). Eg., If I feel like I am not in the right mood for Spots mode or even the ride mode on the Ather. I will stick to eco on that day. We Indians have to agree to the fact that collectively we are not good drivers (we have a big ego and we don't accept that) and then start learning.
Spot on. This is the harsh reality.
Loved the example KS! Totally relatable!
Shumi's mischievous smiles just make these convos that much more fun. 😆
53:09 Discipline and driving sense is the most important safety aspect everyone forgets and blabbers about crash test ratings. We have a WagonR. Yes its body is "Tin ka dabba" and some stupid crashed into our car and there were few dents out there. But I love that car for its ease of driving as a beginner. And one needs to have cautious behaviour while on the road. I feel frustrated when someone cuts me while I'm driving or suddenly comes ahead of me without any indication. This is called indiscipline which unfortunately our traffic system is unable to deal with. Also what Karthik told is true. People having a call while driving/riding just distracts their attention span and mishaps happen instantaneously. I think someone needs to address all these issues and teach us how to drive/ride well on a road and only then after people can rant about crash test ratings. Also people showoff saying their car is a 5 star rated or their helmet has ece certification so they're invincible but they forget the most important aspect that keeps them in shape that is locking helmet strap or wearing seat belt. Unless they wear them, there's no 5 star safety or an ece certification that saves you after a crash. People need to learn these little things to understand how safety works in the first place.
Hullo again ST! Thanks for speaking your mind. Glad to know of your garage and your way.
At 39.37, Shumi you made a hand gesture while speaking about the Tata Nexon. This has to do with the symmetrical crash resistance the new model has, correct? Please let me know. Lovely first impression. Enjoyed it thoroughly. Great job K and S!
Hullo sah! That hand gesture has something to do with the Nexon facelift - could we ask you to scan through it quickly? It will be funnier when you see it. 😃
I think it's the illuminated logo on the steering wheel. But I need to watch it again.
@@Anant.Bhatia.Antz_BinOn point
I love the 1.0 Turbo petrol DCT of Sonet. But would you guys recommend DCT for the hilly areas like Manali and Upper Himachal region. Should I buy the DCT or the IMT then? (Petrol Only)
Hey Sahil! Try the iMT for sure. From a simplicity and durability standpoint it will be hassle free. The DCT with the new tune for the engine will be the more indulgent option.
Shumi sir Became Shankar Mahadevan for Summary…Breathless and on Point..Great Discussion
Haha Thanks!
I have confidence in my driving skills but not sure about others, so ratings absolutely matters to me
Honestly i do partially agree with you in regards to the safety as driving properly is at the forefront. however one thing i like to point out is that the safety features are for "safety". So just because you are driving properly and follow the rules doesn't mean someone else in the road will and it also doesn't mean that he cannot come and crash into you. So its better to have safety features and have safer car as an insurance.
Hullo! The point we are trying to make is - buying a safer car doesn’t reduce your responsibility to be safe on the road. Which is often the perspective.
@@motorinc Well if anyone thinks that they can try to crash test their 5 star cars safety features with the unknown then it's plain stupidity. Maybe he/she will be an example for the masses on educational purposes when any mishaps happen.
@@motorincyeah absolutely as a driver my responsibility is to drive safe but the dynamic environment while driving in India is much more complex and can cause errors which can cause accidents and for that accident for that one mistake that one instance a 5 star rated car is a much better option rather than a 1 star rated car to ensure seamless survival in the accident because everyone how accidents can destroy a person’s life provided the speed is below 70 km/h at time of collision. As Shumi sir said it is a very Grey Topic and people should first understand all terminologies and then come to a conclusion and set their priorities accordingly
Hey MotorInc, I do understand that companies provide the top-of-the-line versions of their cars to review for better coverage of all the features that they provide and based on what I heard, the 1-litre Turbo variant definitely left an impression. But there exists a gap of 5 Lakh Rupees between the entry point of the Sonet and the 1-litre Turbo variant between which is the NA 5MT variant at a much more approachable price. For someone who would like to own a Sonet on a limited budget, it would be great to hear more about the lower variants too in the next in-depth video about the Kia Sonet.
Hey CM! Thanks for spelling that out. We however got to drive only these variants and hence could speak about those. Will try to cover that too in the next conversation.
@@motorinc Another little question that I've wanted to ask about motorcycling from Shumi, is rev-matching a good way to down-shift? I keep worrying about any damage it might do to the drivetrain. I own a Hunter 350 so I'm obviously not a racer or anything but it's just a lot of fun to do and I'm worried about any damage it might pose to my bike.
Spot on thought!
Hey Cyrus! Rev-matching is done to _reduce_ the strain in the system on shifts. To us, it's the only way to do it correctly
Shout out to the epic Tshirt by Karthikeya and Shumi, thats some damn good grooming for your beard you go there