History of Clash Royale's Most Hated Card
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The Mega Knight is a card that has not had any major reworks, and has had fewer changes than a typical card I would cover, but the community has drove this card through a painful journey, and after everything it's been through, still nearly appears in nearly a quarter of all ladder decks to this day.
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EVERY TIME I SEE THIS BIG BLACK FAT KNIGHT I JUST LEAVE, I DON'T CARE OFF LOOSING SOME STUPID TROPHY
Lmao
Hunter, pekka, and many more can counter megaknut if u feel like googling counters and putting them in ur deck
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@@Twiggy10 i now there are options to counter it my cat brother/Sister but, i don't want to use a card that i would never use just to counter a nother card that i would never use (i have problems)
@@maycol4eva u don’t use valk, inf tower, inf drag, knight, mini pecka, hunter, any building plus cards like bats / dart goblin, mighty miner, pecka,
I love how mega knight was made to be a counter to the elite barbarians, yet as time went on, people just made decks that combined both atrocities to ruin the entire game. I still see it to this day
I run el barb megaknight and fire spirit. Unstoppable if you get a counterpush with the megaknight
@@jesseshin2532I hope you step on Legos for the rest of time
@@jesseshin2532what's your arena that's not unstoppable
@@jesseshin2532 unstoppable for -5000 trophies, maybe 💀
@@jesseshin2532i tower delivery and ice counter ggs
As a megaknight, I can confirm I am literally ruinng the game with joy
You are the best card in the game
I have been a long time member of the Church of Mega Knight ever since the year 2020 the cards are on it may change but the Mega Knight is eternal.
MegaBuilder
I never used this card so I can't even tell lol
I have had the same megaknight deck since its release. I cannot escape the GOAT
My perfectly crafted push when my opponent plays Mega Knight for the first time with 40 seconds left:
It was probably me, he was my oh shit card on my hog rider deck so I usually defended w him and fire cracker then used what remained of the mk to push with hog rider, so usually he would jump on the building taking a hige chunk while tanking the tower for the hog
Honestly it’s really funny having someone not play a Megaknight for the entire game and pulling it out of nowhere when it’s about to end
One thing he doesn't mention: Decks designed to counter Mega Knight. I remember back when it was added, 6-7 out of 10 games, you either faced the MK, or faced a counter MK deck. Frustrating times.
Yup you had mega knight or you had Peka bcs you didn't have mega knight yet lol
@@BudzNBoose At the level that I am on my new account(4600), it's still kind of true tbh. At least one in every four opponents has the megaknight, and so people need to have a card that's decent against it(not necessarily the peeka, I currently use the zappy which isn't ideal but it's fine).
Overeleveling makes cards like Witch, Wizard, Mega Knight so hated. SC could have level-capped card levels to King Level since 2016, but that goes against their monetization policy.
Yeah i also thought the level cap thing but they never did ehh They should make the late game more competitive than midladder,which is a suffering stage.
funny how like 80% of these balancing problems would've never even existed if card levels weren't a thing.
Honestly, overleveling wasn't that big of a problem until the magic item update. Before that, I never really had a card more than 1 level higher or lower than my king tower due to trade tokens or donations, and I had enough excess gold that I upgraded other cards to get xp. Now with magic items it's so easy to get 1 card to a big level and there's not enough gold to spend upgrading anything else so there's so many level 10 players with level 14 cards that it's unbearable. Honestly, it made me quit the game cause I couldn't take it.
Yea that's the pay to win for ya
@@doggo4078mad cuz bad
I still remember beating the 12 win challenge to unlock the megaknight and my friends were crazy about it ... Getting a legendary doesn't feel the same anymore
Even then they were already common
@Wemple’s Temple facts
@Repent and believe in Jesus Christ Amen.
i remember spending over 500 gems only to end up with nothing
I don’t even have clash royale anymore; supercell terminated my account over nothing
My problem was always how Mega Knight contradicts the rock paper scissors of the game. AoE beats swarm, which beats tank killer, where the last two beat tanks, where the last two beat AoE. Mega Knight is both a tank AND AoE, meaning they can place an Inferno Dragon or Prince to cover the Mega Knight's tank killer weakness
There's no problem about it, thefending thegnices actually exist
Now tell me how broke would it be if healing spell still existed in CR
I just got into clash royale, 2 months ago. I'm still learning the game, basics, elixir economy, counters, etc... I've spent about 20$ on the game, just to acquire heroes, legendaries, and an evo or two. Thus far, my thought process is the exact same as yours was 5 months ago. Mega-Knight isn't "broken" per se, but it is overpowered in the sense that it's just as tanky as a P.E.K.K.A while being capable AoE upon playing it, as well as cleave when it's already in play. Like you said, the game operates on a "rock, paper, scissors" model. Swarm beats tank, tank beats dps, AoE beats swarm. Yet this card does it all. Flat out, this card is stronger than most evos, without requiring a cycle. The thing is, these kids crutch on it, big time. It's the elo-hell power-card. Pretty much any deck that you make at 4000 trophies needs to include some way to deal with a Mega-Knight, and even then, once it sets it's eyes on a tower, you're too late. You just lost a tower. Just about the only counter for it is to kite it through your towers using skeletons or ice golem.
@@dollahbill510 Exactly what I say and what I will probably forever say, I don't care if I sound like a midladder noob. Once I came back to the game after a 4 year pause and saw the mega knight (stopped playing right before he was introduced), I damn near pooped my pants. After 3 years I can only say that it isn't exactly overpowered, but It's one of the most un-fun cards to play against. Whatever annoying or toxic strategy I see in the game, I think to myself "at least he has no mega knight" every time. Seems like I'll never get over it, and it goes without saying that I really supported the last nerf he's gotten and I still do.
@@kiki88561 On my recently created account, I spent my whole time since like 3000 trophies being very annoyed at all of the over-leveled witches. When I saw that the next arena(don't remember which) unlocked the mega knight, I was like: ''well that sucks, but at least that might mean I have to deal with witches less often''. It hasn't really felt like that's the case. Instead, the same people who use an over-leveled witch now also use an over-leveled mega knight:(
A mega knight jumping your tower feels just as bad as it did 6 years ago
As someone who constantly plays 2v2, I always see many megaknight teammates sitting on full elixir to wait for an opponent card so they can use the megaknight spawn. So not only megaknight is an annoying card to face but also it encourages bad play for players who rely on it. That's my biggest gripe.
Yes, players who get outplayed & get their pushes destroyed can sit back, build up 7 elixir, and crush your own 10 elixir+ push with one card.
Yup. I use to play megaknight at the back to build a push when elixir was abundant but I stopped since waiting for an enemy cluster of troops to stomp is more efficient.
High ladder mega knight takes alot of skill bc people like me can easily counter it
😂😂😂 Mega knights are easy to counter, it’s all about timing
I still like it more than the damn electro giant or, god save us, elite barbarians
Thank you Inferno Tower, if wasn't for you, this mid ladder menace would still haunt me
I use both lol
I use inferno tower but they reset dmg with zap or electro wiz :/
@@ugabooga4144 just place a mini tank in front
@@ugabooga4144 that’s the reason I go one and off with the inferno tower as my building card in most decks
@@ugabooga4144 what about freeze and lightning
I as a low level player encounter really often opponents with Megaknghts at lvl 15. For me it's like a Pekka that does splash damage, can jump, has spawn damage AND has the healthpoints of a Golem. It's ridiculous in the river race. I have to always use an Infernodragon, Infernotower AND Sparky.
Just use a healer
your just bad its no that difficult. bait out the jump and use knight and i drag or something of that nature
@@dilkane8531low level doesn’t exactly have the luxury of choice with war decks buddy. Wth are you even supposed to do against any card like 8 levels higher than yours?
Megaknight is the sole reason I have an inferno tower in my deck.
Let me introduce you to zap, bats, or skeleton barrel. Oh and if you have wizard or firecracker? Yeah it's getting Miner'd
@@Bionimeticbro mega knight is so easy to counter
I just pack a pekka lol
It would be funny if they added an interaction where if two MKs jumped at each-other, they would just chest bump and proceed to ignore each-other from that point on. Wouldn’t do much just aside from being a tad goofy to see
agreed
I have a double gold leveled elite level mega knight at 5500 trophies
I’m not joking
@@shorts_Hello star levels change nothing only looks elite level rly good tho
@@shorts_Hellowho??
megaknight is the ultimate crutch card easy to use and gives great results on defense, pretty naff on offense, and not all that viable in high level play
Not even viable to the slightest bit in high level play i tried to use him in path of legends and got absolutely demolished
@@erfanwardana9769 Yeah, it’s a defensive card that dominates mid ladder and just gets you punished at higher play for how easy it is to counter for a positive elixir trade.
@@erfanwardana9769there's dozens of people that reach ultimate champion with megaknight and even people in the top 1k that use him so what are you smoking
@@DolphR yup just watched sir tag's video on mega knight deck from top 100 players
@@erfanwardana9769 The card still has some use in mega knight wall breakers (particularly the firecracker versions). You have to play very carefully with the mega knight, only dropping him as a punish play. I still see plenty of mega knight decks in ult league, so I'd say the card is still viable in some niche instances, even if it isn't good as a whole (although I do agree it could use a slight buff on offense to improve it's counterpush potential.)
I agree that MK is probably perfectly fine to bad in a vacuum. In any testing or high ladder environment, he will seem fine because his mechanics are relatively easy to counter. Unfortunately, and the thing I think you underestimated in your analysis, most ladder players do not play under ideal circumstances and MK is probably one of, if not the best card when it comes to exploiting suboptimal circumstances. Lag, device faults (like placing a unit one tile off) are far more prevalent in mid ladder and MK, especially due to the huge difference between him jumping and walking to a target, punishes the "mistakes" that are outside of your control harder than almost any other card. So while he is simple to counter with good timing and placement, the margin for error with him is so small that his power on attack varies wildly with the circumstances that you play under. For example, a hog rider comes in and you place your barbarians on him, but they are delayed by 0.5 seconds or placed in a slightly wrong tile. The hog rider might get 1 or 2 more swings than he should. If you place your barbs on a MK, those 0.5 seconds or that 1 tile off is suddenly the difference between him being fully countered and him killing them all and taking half your tower.
I remember back when it was added, in order to win, you either had a deck designed to counter it, or you had Mega Knight in your deck.
I think a huge issue why MK is considered overpowered is that, even though it can be easy to counter him in defense, the countering process relies heavily on the princess towers. Yes, you could theoretically play any mini-tank in your half and melt the MK for 2-4 elixir, but that is where the pay to win factor plays it's role. The big issue is that most players in midladder have way higher card levels than tower levels. If the MK is level 14, but your princess towers are level 11, you can play as many tanks as you want, it might take the entire 6 minutes of the match to get the MK killed. In itself, the MK really is balanced. Maybe not in low-midladder, but as soon as the players start gaining game sense, it's fairly easy to deal with it in theory. The big issue, as always with Supercell, is the pay to win
agreed, i really like your conclusion
I just throw down a Pekka when he gets to my side and that easily kills him
The same applies to hog. You may know how to counter it when you're equal level, effectively standardizing the interaction, but it becomes significantly more difficult when interactions that are normally hard-counters just don't, because "muh 4 levels overleveled cards, has 1,000 hp more than usual and 10x the damage output". Especially if said counters are really level-dependent (something Gob Cage suffers from in Hog interactions).
Well put, and not something I'd considered
I love the card cause I ran a no spell deck. It was my splash dmg card that and dark prince. They decks entire point was putting constant big dmg pressure on the towers and I’d often only play MK when they got a counter push goin to catch ‘em off guard
I hover in the 5700 trophy range, and Mega Knight used to be an absolute menace in this range. It's faded a bit recently, but a few months ago there were days at a time I would go without facing a single deck that didn't have a Mega Knight. It was horrendous.
I think the range of mega knight players have go down to the 4k - early 5k trophy tbh. I quit the game a few months back facing MK every game, now I came back and haven't met anyone using him in 20 matches straight
I am around 7300 not a single deck don't have a mega knight 😑
@@tabishkhan6259 aaaaaa I’m jealous
@@tabishkhan6259 it actually does I'm at 7200+ gettin so many mega knight decks
sooooooo, nerf miner?
Nerf miner
Nerf little Prince
Mega Knight I think has such a cool design. I remember when he came out, you literally couldn’t go a game without seeing him.
Mega knight isn't hated because it has no counter...it's hated cause it counters like 50 cards and promotes chipping with another troop and just defending with mega knight. You know what's infuriating, not being to play like 100 decks because a single commonly used card completely counters them... hog rider is busted overpowered, but at least it doesn't directly counter 50 cards☠️
hog is overpowered but if you have a building and it’s not 2.6 hog it’s really manageable
@@remsrhythm9408 unlike mega knight skelly army or just regular skeletons are all you need for a hog rider sometimes
damn, i just realized my frustration about this card was pictured on your comment. thank you for clearing my doubt why should i hate this card
Honestly like all the legendary cards it should cost 1+. If you think about that any legendary card have a strategic advantage over the other cards, like for the mega knight it's not just his massive hp, but the area dmg and the jump, the Electric wizard can reset everything and stop it for a second. The worst designed legendary card for me is that broken thing that only costs 6 elixir and basically 1 shots every grounded thing.
@@remsrhythm9408 hog is not op, all the cards with 3 below elixir are broken and stupid to use
I've always felt that Mega Knight is the most powerful over-leveled card in the game. 1 level difference greatly affects how much elixir you need to spend in most interactions to deal with this card.
Then again, what card doesn't feel strong over-leveled tho?
electro giant is the most powerful over leveled card hands fown
@@usuarioanonimo2114 Yeah, but it really depends. With Knight for instance it really hurts to have him when any card with Goblins is 1 level above since he can't one-tap them. The thing is with Mega Knight, his stats are high because he's a 7-elixir card which means his health, damage and jump damage kind of skyrockets. He's fair when you learn the interactions of how to counter him at tournament standard but that all goes down the drain when over-leveled because you now have to maybe cycle one more card or spend a few more elixir to distract him. And yeah, E-Giant is kinda like that too for the same high-cost, stats scaling reasons.
Well it's because leveling up increase your card stats by 10%, and high cost card is well a heavy unit so they have outstanding stats. Basically every tanky is op when overleveled, but MK is splash so it can't be countered by swarm well, it need to go againts single target unit but since he's overleveled, he'd rekt that interaction. Same goes with e giant that can't be countered by swarm
@@HenIsHuman it’s literally so easy to counter it has no health
Imagine not using PEKKA
Inferno dragon
I played CR when it rolled out until 2019 . Just played it again in late 2023. This video bought back my memories
Could you do a video about the differences between midladder and competitive play? I'm curious how the same cards can be viewed so differently.
Simple Competitive play has high skill Mid ladder doesn't
There are Reddlt posts about difference usage and win rates between top players and regular joe schmoes.
@@Culereterno1899 in Competitve play you win by out playing your opponent and having a favorable matchup. Ladder you win by having higher level cards
Mid ladder players are simply not skilled
Competitive players love spamming spells,any card weak to them will either be useless or too op/annoying in some bait deck. Splashnado is very popular strat on top, midladder rarely faces nado. That also changes meta alot.
I think the biggest reason it's so hated is because of how easy it can counter. I remember before this card, there were a bunch of different strategies to win (mostly ground level) such as xbow, hog rider, etc. Then this card came and basically made 90% of those methods worthless. Everyone had to switch gears because of this card. MK was really impactful in the competive scene, but in a *really* bad way.
So much so I resorted to my monk I got last mouth during 2 v 2 battles beacuse he can somewhat counter mega Knight
It literally just needs less hp and it would’ve been balanced smh
never understood why the fuck a tank card has splash damage, spawn damage, and jump damage next thing you know they'll make him throw his metal gloves to hit air troops
@@vincentdreemurrsupercell gonn take you alive
Good thing it’s almost as easy to counter especially in midladder
I haven't played clash royale in a while now, but I've never had problems with the mega knight, I however have seen a lot of people struggle to play against him. I'll give a little guide, I'm not pro don't get me wrong, but I hit leagues at level 8 so I'm alright at the game. I'll start with attacking against a mega knight player as I think that is what most people struggle with, the key is to change your playstyle once you see that your opponent is using mega knight. You need to make sure to not attack with big grouped up ground based pushes, you need to be splitting your pushes into smaller cheaper more often rushes, attacking both bridges can also be quite strong against mega knight players as the player has to either choose a bridge to drop 7 elixir on which makes them majorly vulnerable on the other side, or they have to try to kite your two pushes into the middle, which at the midranks, can easily be done wrong and result in a tower going down. I cannot stress this enough though, stop giving the mega knight value. I see a lot of mid rank players sending the same push multiple times, despite the mega knight simply countering. On the other end of the arena, you need to be able to kill it as well, the general kill mega knight strategy is to distract it with something high health like an ice golem and then kill it with something high damage like bats. Another strategy is a very simple pekka, inferno tower or inferno dragon. Also a great counter to the mega knight is to distract the mega knight with the tank of your counter push, such as placing a golem to distract the mega knight with something high damaging to kill the mega knight, which then turns into it's own push. You have to be careful with this though, if they have a spell that can kill your backup, the golem will just kite the mega knight back, giving the opponent time to cycle back to another megaknight, then you have to deal with two. I hope this helps some people.
Distract everyone with an insane goblin giant buff, you’re better at predicting the future than the simpsons
I’ll never forget when the Mega Knight was *the* hard counter to the Elite Barbarians. He was *very crucial* in my eyes in the events of stopping them. Not anymore.
He still is the hard counter to E-barbs,but it actually needs some level of skill now,even if it's low
Especially since they reduced the speed of ebarbs theyve honestly been pretty manageable to defend for a 6 elixir card
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The rework makes ebarbs functionally similar to MiniPekka It dies to Ebarbs because it dies to minipekka
This card was literally the reason I quit the game back when it was released. I was f2p so I would constantly play against legendary cards I didn't have and cards that are way higher leveled than mine with occasional delays when deploying cards (so the game was already mildy frustrating to play) but the Mega Knight was the last straw because it just felt impossible to counter with my lower leveled cards and with it's stupidly overloaded kit and stats.
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Same. I perfectly defend against his attack and build up a counter attack army, then boom, he drop 1 mega Knight and solve everything, he just stop my counter attack and have a tank to build a counter - counter attack 🙂
Just inferno tower plebs or a god damn knight, is it that hard
i remember getting this card when it came out and it springing me to the higher leagues when i wasn't good enough to. it speaks for itself
that challenge in 2017 made me cry. i was very young and i wasnt good at the game, however, i managed to get to 11 wins. ended up losing 11-3 and i had not enough gems to replay. i was so angry because it was a hard challenge and i still managed 11
The biggest problem with this card is that it just countered pretty much every card in the game in one way or another. Even if the win rates were balanced, everyone hated it because it took the fun out of the game.
It really did not, you could have a bit of an argument with midladder but simply put mega knight has so many counters that if you cant counter it its just a skill issue on your part
A singular Mini Pekka of a similar level counters Mega Knight for 3 less elixir.
This is a complete skill issue on your part. Mega Knight in no way shape or for counters "pretty much every card in the game". If anything, pretty much every card in the game can counter it.
Lol
@@LightDarkxZ What about levels? In midladder you can go up against a level 14 megaknight with level 11 as your average card level. I'd say Supercell should add more mega knight counters that are easy to play, but don't thrive in high ladder
Gratz: *tries to explain why mega knight is actually balanced and only a problem in mid latter* Also Gratz: *shows a clip of a mega knight countering a mosqueter, barberian, mage, frost mage, eletric mage, witch and 2 skeletons all at once, a 24 elixir push, by himself and still getting out alive multiple times in the video*
Mage 😭
@@Crecross mage would have not countered that push by himself. He would have gottem 2 fireballs out at most and then died
@@tdl1315 he’s making fun of you for saying mage instead of wizard
@@reillyshoots1841 cards have different direct translations to English from different languages.
...those troops were literally lvls 1-6
Been playing off and on from high school, to now. I am playing now in ladder arena 18 and still using mega knight, balloon, witch and lumberjack at max 14 level. lambast me all you want but i just honestly love playing him, ive learned every way to counter him showing up against me even im not running him by using bats, inferno tower surrounding him with my own barbarians hell gunning him down with musketeer or wizard if i have space and he's low. The one change i would like to see is a change to the lava hound, maybe drop him to 6 ex and give him less overall health but more speed because hes a dps check if your opponent has range or not. He's a little uninteresting to see pop out.
Gay
This card was one of the main reasons why i stopped the game entirely. Because i just hated facing it in almost every single ladder game over and over and having to build my deck around specifically being able to counter the MK because of it just being omnipresent back when i still played making it just very unfun as either i choose to have counters for the MK and have no counters for other threats, or i dont have specific MK counters and just struggle to deal with it. It took me almost a month of constantly losing to MK until i would even find viable ways of countering it that dont just make me instantly lose to other cards. And that really killed the fun and joy of the game for me. Because at least on ladder which is what i primarily play, MK became like the only thing you face. I dont know how it is now as i dont play CR anymore. But that was my experince a few years ago back when it was still new and i had to fight it as a casual ladder player. And it still is my most hated card even now
The only thing that bothers me about the MK is it’s Mid-Ladder career (and it usually is 2-3 levels above your entire card collection)
PROS with Lvl 11 cards vs SUBSCRIBERS with Lvl 14 cards. This should be a weekly series. C'mon Mo Light, Morten, Boss, Ian, Ryley, etc.
Man isn't that the story of my life right now. My cards are level 11 with 2 12s and I'm constantly spammed with full level 14s with maybe 2 13s
It's not about mega knight being too strong. It's his rock paper scissors nature. you can either counter him with 4 elexir, or you can't. Certain decks are a free win, others are a free loss, because you don't have a mini tank.
yeah, I've been playing 2.6 hog for years now, mega knight is mid to defend against, it isn't the hardest or the easiest but depending on opponent's use, against a really good player it becomes negative elixir trade to defend it while it can still be countered in 5 elixirs with a canon and ice golem.
@@gandalfthegrey2777it all depends on the opponet like you said.. 2.6 hog is super easy to beat with mega knight, wiz, nd just a ram rydr
man i love you so much, might be a bit too drunk, but anyways, your vids are great
Then why do can I still face mega knight 5 games in a row?
In my experience there’s a few things that make a card attractive to people that aren’t very good at the game (high health, splash damage, and instantaneous damage/ high one shot ability) Look at things that are objectively not very good but remain popular on ladder and you’ll find one or more of those things in basically all of them. Valk is a high health splasher with a basically instant first attack, E barbs are relatively high health and often can one or two shot things, wizard is a high damaging splasher, etc… mega knight is a very high health splasher with a lot of instant damage so it checks all the boxes. I think it will always see use because of that. And just because splash cards and cards with a lot of health make defense very easy.
i see freeze and rage a lot with bad players too because they cant make good enough pushes without them
valk is just generally good, not rly a midladder card
valk is pretty good
It's similar logic to braindead AQW players. Big number = more dopamine
@@azarfromafar3237 freeze definitely is one of the most toxic cards
The problem comes from the mega knight usually always being insanely high leveled. Of course there are good counters, such as a knight for example, but if the knight is slightly underleveled then you have to aid it with additional elixer which can often be the losing factor
The funny part is that MK isn't a wincon but he's designed to soak hits so you can sneak in a win con like battle ram 😉 I would know bc I play MK and just maxed him today 😅
Yeah and with the extra added new level 15 and the free pass being insanely nerfed it's almost impossible to progress as a f2p player. Megaknight is easy to counter in fact I just beat a kid with level 15 megaknight when my highest level card was a level 13 mortar. I think it's honestly not even that good of a card in general. Something like evo firecracker deserves to be complained about but it's balanced. It's only hated cause you said it's usually extremely overleveled because the players that use it are just pay 2 win
I remember using Mega knight during it's first release and all the way until fisherman was added and I have to say he was good before and I really didn't see an increase in effectiveness. I was consistently top 50K and in master rank those seasons with a deck consisting of Mega Knight, Barbarians, Balloon, Rage, Skeleton Army, Freeze, Electro wizard, and Wizard I never even knew he was considered broken💀
Returned to Clash after a break and got the knight and added it to my deck - worked out well.
Even till this day the card is very annoying. You either have to carry high dps troop/building, or use many cycle cards to counter it, which puts you at a negative elixir trade
You just need skeletons+ice spirit :D
+1 mega knight is uncommon because +2 mega knight is more common and to defend it you have to spend more than 7 elixir every time not to mention mega knight nearly always crushes any push and attacks you when your at low elixir
Really sounds like a skill issue. Meganut is good at punishing overcommiting midladder players.
It literally just needs less hp and it would’ve been balanced smh
A mini pakka of same level can counter it for a positive elixir trade . A knight or valk can do the job too .inferno drag , inferno tower , pekka , a charged prince , minions , hidden Tesla or a MK itself. all are very good counter to the MK . + MK as a 7 elixir card doesn't do that much damage either( except it's jump and spawn damage ) . if you're willing to spend 6-7 elixir then there are better options . I believe everyone has atleast one of the counter card for MK in their deck , it's not that annoying cuz it's only problem is it's spawn damage and jump damage . Other than that it's very average .
I’ve played Clash Royale on and off since launch, and dealing with overleveled Mega Knights was literally impossible. Because I stopped playing consistently, my cards are still all underleveled, but it was more egregious back then. I would face level 12/13 Mega Knights with level 10 cards, and it was just impossible to win those matchups. Especially when the entire opponent’s deck is two-three levels higher than mine.
This is what high elo players don't understand. People who play casually don't have the time or resources to level up all their cards to a usable level for their elo. Instead they level up 10-12 ish cards to a decent level provided they don't play all the time or spend money. This means, when the meta shifts, its too costly to just switch into a different deck, and so you focus on trying to brute force with levels than learning the game better. At 5000 ish , ( i tooks a 3 year break), my king tower levels are 10. But most cards levels are 12 or higher. This simply means that the towers barely chip things like meta knight so I HAVE to invest more than a usual amount of elixer to defend. Before a took a break, the level disparity was so great that my wizard could not one shot enemy minions. When people say pay 2 win, this is what they're usually talking about. Back before I took a break I had lv 9 king towers while most opponents had 11 or 12. The game felt frustrating simply because everything they had were just stronger.
@@halinaqi2194 Yeah I had to get to tower level 12 just to be able to get trough that hell, but now I have some level 12 cards so I can counter them pretty good
Wow This brings back memories This game was a different game in those days I got Megaknight from the challenge, i stopped playing for a couple years and started playing it again recently This guy is right about the old CR, it was a different time
Christ, I think the last time I played was close to 4 years ago... damn time flies
I joined Clash Royale about early september, and I've since gotten to 5k ladder rating without spending a cent. I've literally had to make entire decks around how to counter that single card. I used to like Witch because of the handy stall that the skeletons provide - same reason I liked tombstone, actually. That all changed when I got into the arena that had mega knight. Mega Knight singlehandedly changes the nature of the game in such a way that I'm not exactly happy with; I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that at the point in the game where you unlock it, it's unbeatable. It's fine later on; you finally unlock cards that counter it and start to appreciate other cards that you'd had before. But there was a good 2-3k rating there where I just knew that every time I saw that card, I'd lose. Edit: the 'card that counters it' is literally just Little Prince lol.
The Mega Knight ended an era where you didn’t have to change your deck past arena 3. Strategies were a lot more diverse, the game was a lot more fun because you never knew what type of deck you were going to get.
That is just simply not true. Not changing your deck past arena 3 has always been a bad idea. The game introduces new cards to you for a reason. If something isn't working with your deck, then change it. Don't spend a month stuck in the same arena because you're too stubborn to change your deck. Half of the skill of CR is building a good deck and recognizing when it isn't working. If you can't do that, then learn to do that. Don't blame your skill issue on mk.
@@rexmayshark6212 no
@@rexmayshark6212 it doesn’t even matter if you do change your deck. Your fighting too many players who have cards you shouldn’t be going up against yet. Im talking cards you don’t unlock for another 3 arenas. It shouldn’t be allowed for anyone to derank that low.
You can win those cards by challenges, clan members, etc). Stop being so butthurt
That was an issue of card levels not the mega knight
The biggest problem is the overleveling of the card. Its why top ladder dont see the terror. Facing a level 13 mega knight when you have a single lv 12 in your library makes so many of the interactions a nightmare. This combined with e wiz made any counter but mega knight pretty much pointless since why wouldnt you spaen a pekka with fireball dmg to defend
Yea, they'd always be like "oh obviously you just put down a knight or bandit for a plus 4 elixir trade"! Ignoring the fact that even at equal levels, knight and bandit BARELY counter mega knight. Underleveled knight only takes half of a level 14 mega knights health, bandit takes even less
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020 people i play against on average have level 12 or 13 meka knights, where as my bandit is level 10, so my bandit barely does shit lmao
@@Caffeine_Addict_2020 ofc u need 2 years to max out a proper deck.all top ladder players have gone through that stage especially the one who were f2p. The real problem faced is basically the meta changes way too much. At the high ladder some cards are absolutely broken and at mid ladder everyone says it's ok. The balance changes should be made only according to the top ladder plus u can't complain to the slow progression as f2p. The fact that champions were fresh but they ruined the strategic element in the game.
From my experience: I started playing in 2016, in march 2017 I had to go in a foster home where i couldn't use phones and similar, in 2020 I started playing again and the game was so different from what I remembered it like, I immediately noticed how strong MK is and i had no choice but to use it myself, my deck is a literal cancer but I just adapted to the new game
Mega Knight is my main card in my deck, I use it the least out of every card in my deck but it brings it all together. I use it defensively mainly and if my main strategy to hit tower works I may not use it at all. It’s definitely a cheese card but I personally love the versatility. My whole strategy is to sit around 6-7 elixir as much as possible so I can use MK to push/counter. Mega Knight, Bats, Witch, Skeleton Barrel, Zap, Skeleton Horde, Lumberjack and Flame Spirit is my deck
Mega knight is balanced, but only in a state when you’re equally levelled with it, my alt is currently at 5500 and nearly 90% of games I play on there contain an obnoxiously overleveled mega knight who just spawns on your push, killing all your cards due to its high level, then pair it with something like zap to counter inferno tower and it becomes an absolute nuisance to defend, requiring much more than 7 elixir to defend without taking much damage
I think the bigger reason why Mega Knight is so good in mid ladder is because he destroys the unorganized non-meta decks mid ladder players generally use.
And ironically, some midladder decks are so wildly unbalanced that meta decks can struggle to beat them.
@@doodgoi9102 laughs in log bait against mk witch wizard exe freeze
@@doodgoi9102 I won a mid ladder match with like 167 hp on my tower bc homie had no big spell and for whatever reason used his zap on my princess and gbarrel
I consider myself a good player and I usually take a decent amount of games off my friends who r are like 7k+. I find the game fun using more technical decks, gob drill, wb, miner Occasionally xbow. My account is v under leveled and it sucks ass losing to maxed out mega knights 5k trophies. My placement and kiting is pretty good I can activate king tower with a spirit and skeles. It's just so boring to face him game after game and u fuck up one interaction cuz u forgot your card is 2 or 3 levels below and u just get fucked. I can't climb to get aq or mighty miner cuz it's just so zzz.
@@doodgoi9102 One day I decided to play Lavaloon Barbarians, the first match I got had Firecracker, Executionner, Wizard, Rascal, Freeze, E-giant, Hog Rider and Minions.
Very nice video ❤
I think the main problem with this card in mid-ladder is that being a ground splash tank, it really restricts the kind of decks you can play. I for example was a cycle player(I quit in 2021) and cycle decks' game plan is to maximize the value of lower elixir cards by kiting and using specific placements to stall for the princess tower to do enough damage to defend and therefore hope to have gained a positive elixir trade and get to counter. More often than not the MK will be higher level than my king tower and most of my card, which means my troops will die a lot easier and my princess towers simply don't do enough damage to counter it due to it being underleveled. This makes it extremely frustrating since I know I could have countered it if not for it's level. The nature of MK being a ground splash tank makes trying to defend against it really hard for cycle decks since most of those deck don't really use MK counters but rather rely on stalling/kiting and princess tower damage, which are unreliable while underleveled. So if I wanted to win against these overleveled MK decks the simplest answer would either be to join them or play decks containing cards that are able to specifically counter it even if underleveled which made the game unfun for me so I quit.
The thing is that it can easily be defended IF you have a counter. But there are a lot of cards that don't counter it. Most of the time you are caught off guard, that's what makes it so strong
The thing is, you can really counter it with almost any cards if you place and time them well. You can redirect it, surround it, or just kill it with a pekka or barabarians. I think the big issue people have with this card is that in return it counters almost every ground push, except pekka and the giants
It can be countered fairly easily but he usually comes with a Witch or any Wizard from behind
I use GK and knight logbait with inferno and it is the perfect mid ladder counter.
@@ekamsingh1640 Golden knight is an arena 16 card how tf do you use it in mid ladder
@@danifurka6790 Arena 16 is still mid ladder bro
"Never underestimate the community's influence" hasn't aged so well 😬
Yea mate
wait why?
RIP Magic Archer
Lol I remember those pre released tournaments back in the day. I won the Mega Knight, Night Witch and Royale Ghost before they dropped. Good times. Took a few years off CR but I'm back
Now i am mad with little princess🥵
The problem with mega knight that I hate so much is if you misplay your elixir a little bit or if you use your counters before knowing they have it then it’s almost impossible to mitigate massive amounts of damage on your tower. That’s why I hate it.
It's almost like that's how the game works
@@realdomo stupidest shit i've ever heard, they're still allowed to hate it. do you cheer at gamma's funeral just because people die and that's how the world works or smth
@@realdomo Nah. There aren't many single cards that can punish as hard and as quickly.
The funny thing is, that always happens to me in the beginning of a game. I usually lose the game in the first minute. If I don't, I probably win, and I have not played against MK yet lol.
That’s just a skill issue ngl
My biggest problem with MK is not how strong it is, it's fairly balanced in the competitive scene and barely gets use in there as well, but it's the reliance of so much ladder climbers to the guy. MK's problem isn't how strong or annoying it is, it's how much people in the ladder have to rely on the fact that their enemy has or doesn't have an MK to win.
Fr. The deck I use is to directly counter mega knight because they can't defend if the only card they know how to use is mega knight.
@@connorfrederixon7508 Same thing for me, yeah I started winning the games instead of losing but then I realized... the problems is no that im winning or losing, the problem is tha this mf NEVER GOES AWAY!!! You have to see him 9 out of 10 games and it gets soooo boring
Elixir golem kiting be lyk 😂😂
Over leveled cards like mk witch and wizard are annoying to go up against simply because the fact they are better than your cards even if you have the counter
this exactly. back when i was playing around when he came out, every time you saw him he just rolled you. he was rare enough that i didnt see him every game, but he was a menace that you couldnt really fight against.
the only 2 bad things about MK, are the easy accesibility and many ways to level up in mid ladder, like, I'm actually at 6k and many people has MK at level 14, but the rest of the deck at 12 or even 11, and the spawn damage is also a bit annoying, cuz if the MK level is higher than some of your cards, many of them can't reach the tower or even kill a troop behind the MK, also, it has good synergy with hogrider and bandit, I used to use MK, Bandit and Hogrider combo and I swear it's annoying asf, in mid ladder you find, that, MID LADDER PEOPLE, usually u can't get with people who can easily defend MK, like I used to defend MK with Bandit or even I think u used to with goblin gang, but with the 1.1 to 0.9 jump time change some of that easy defenses were gone, and many people just play it from nowhere cuz in many decks simply there's no strategy behind using the MK, it's a balanced card and it's ok, I just think they need to revert the jump time to 1.1, the card isn't unbalanced, the fact that you can easily level up it it's annoying
I’ve a day 1er. Idk if it’s my luck or sheer spite for the MK, but I’ve collected every card but him. Feeling blessed
My problem with megaknight is that it has a low skill ceiling, it just felt like i played better than my rival yet still lost
the thing is that I hate it because it's in 90 percent of the decks I run into, which forces me to to build a deck to counter it or it forces me to completely stop attacking and out everything into defending against it which always makes the games go into over time and one of them always manages to slip by and jumping onto my tower killing it
Fr bruh 😑
Same man. It feels like you’re playing against the same opponent over and over again like damm I wanna play against someone different
Am i missing something here? Pekka can shit on mk all by herself, im not sure why people are building decks all around defense if all they need is one card
@@Socrates.02because than you build a deck around peka and peka is way easier to counter over mk
Love the osrs music in the back 😍
The way I see it is whenever someone says “bro he’s not that bad just use X” but I think they forget a big part of the reason he’s a “mid ladder menace” is because we don’t even have half the cards the top ladder players do unless they already hit the top arenas. It’s best counter early is inferno tower but it isnt like that doesn’t have a dozen ways to reset or distract it’s not. Perfect response like a troop might be
Your history of card videos are very entertaining to watch, because of the amount of effort and dedication you put into them. It seems like you spend days or maybe weeks just researching all the facts and writing your script for these videos. Just gotta give you a round of applause. Your hard work is paying off! You will have a million subscribers in no time, no question about it.
i remember seeing its reveal trailer and immediately thinking "Wow thats op" and then i didn't ever think about it again
Well, I am one of those people who play Mega Knight. It was my one of the first legendary cards. And I can confirm it is very OP. Especially when u have mirror. Imagine two Mega Knights together, that is like 2 non-stop fireballs.
I had to build an entirely new deck to progress on ladder because I went against mega knight every single game. After months of levelling a WHOLE DECK to level 14 I was finally able to break through. Now that I'm above 6k there aren't as many mega knights. He really is a ladder gatekeeper
What was your deck?
Back when the card was still fairly new, I found out that I've been facing him so much to the point where I built a deck to SIMPLY COUNTERING THIS ONE SPECIFIC CARD. It ended up being super effective in the long run, I managed to climbed out of mid-ladder itself just because of my deck is made specifically for beating mega knight alone with nothing else in mind.
When I was playing from arena 10-15 now, I had to tailor my deck JUST to counter hogs and goblin barrells. It's just the same, they're just more popular so no one says anything.
@@amj.composershare ur deck pls
My deck would counter yours
The thing ive learned with mega knight is that if you cant beat it join it
As a pekka user i can only laugh at seeing an megaknight😂😂😂
You should do a video on the miner! That card feels like it never falls out of the meta
Honestly it’s pretty balanced and takes skill in all archetypes
True
Miner is the only card that takes skill
Hog u mean
@@gorandamianovici5720hog was horrible like a year ago
From the day that card appeared in the game,I have never stopped wishing that it never existed
Skill issue
@@kbe9125”erm skill issue 🤓” definitely a mega knight user
Easily countered, it is a skill issue
@@hotice9828that's a bad argument, since every card on it's own can be easily countered.
@@Bruhbhrisnbrubruhg2 elixir can counter it, cant beat it? You just suck
Interesting vid, nerf miner tho
i remember when the MK came out me and my younger brother were trying it out in a 1v1. The confusion was priceless when the MK survived the rocket that was thrown at it
Truly doing gods work mate, Clash Royale video essay's were well needed, glad someone took the plunge to get it done.
I love this channel man, swear I’ve rewatched so many of your videos multiple times, the detail is amazing. And it’s such a laid back ride we get taken in time every episode to the OG days of Clash. Huge props to the research you must put in. Keep it up 👍
i stopped playing the games a couple years ago but i’ve been playing here and there but literally the only way i was able to stop him good strategic placements and a good cycle so like cannon and placing something in between to make him walk slow but not jump or something
Now we have little Prince
Basically he was easy to use, took very little skill to apply effectively. However it took more skill to beat him than it skill to use. Once you figured out his timing, how to abuse his jumps and learned a little more about the interactions... he was actually fairly easy to deal with. Obviously this is why in competitive play he wasn't used, cause he was never really THAT good. But when lower level players that don't want to learn how to get better, refuse to change decks or learn other ways of playing; a card like this gets abused
Or when the mk has 78% better stats from overleveling
Yup lvl 11 mini p vs lvl 14 m.k 👍
@@1000-THR_Benjamin you dumb? lets take pekka for exmaple. They both get about a 300 hp increase per level, how does MK get better stats? if you overlevel anything obviously its going to have more stats
how can I abuse his jumps ?
@@Paradox069 well for starters, you can easily activate your king tower with only 2 elixir (skeletons+ice spirit) using his jump mechanic, it requires a bit of precise placement tho
these vids are incredibly unique, and even nostalgic. i broke an ipad over how broken some cards were, and and looking back…it takes me back to a simpler time when my biggest fear in life was ebarbs zap. great video.
Brooo I remember when E Barbs came out, that was my jam lmao.
Electro Giant is way overpowered, this video needs to be about that card!
The problem with the card is that there is no skill in it. When a card has insane stats and low skill, it becomes super easy to counter but super punishing if not able to counter. Its the same with E barbs, where it had high hp and high damage, speed etc, easy to counter if you have skeletons or smt but super punishing if left alone on your tower. Same for wizard as has a huge splash radius and high damage
That's like 90% of the win cons lmfao this game is basically rock paper scissors. Hog takes literally no skill to use at all yet people meat ride the mess out of that card.
@@123cornerstone321i just use hog because hes overall a fun card for me, but damn do i hate it when my enemy has any sort of counter to it
@@SomeCowguy or when they use three extra win cons with it.
Sorry but that's most win conditions. No one will ever convince me that hog, goblin barrel, 2.6 cycle decks require a high amount of skill. You literally just spam and spam and spam at the bridge or you kite with 1 elixr troops. This is why I love Mega Knight, hog users can say "hey that's low skill" while spamming hog at the bridge.
@@amj.composerfr most decks in clash don’t require skill at all especially 2.6 hog. There’s no variation in attacks it’s the same attack every time and the same defenders. I like to use mega knight + miner wall breaker + bandit cuz there’s a lot of variation
I remember being super frustrated with the card back a few years ago. The spawn damage is just such an irritating thing to deal with because you could have tons of cards going for a push on your opponent and then that single card would completely reverse the situation in a way that hadn’t really been the case previously they would wipe that push and then also get a very tanky card on the field for their own push. It encouraged a lot more poking with low commitment stuff. It wasn’t broken but personally if adding a card makes a significant chunk of the player base not like the game as much and get frustrated I would rather it be nerfed or heavily reworked than make a more toxic environment
3:25 bandit megaknight backshots is wild 💀
I remember back when MK came out, he was fun to play but not necessarily broken or too overused, mainly as you pointed out because it was WAY harder maxing out legendary cards back then, I mean hell it was a challenge to even get one to begin with. So around in late 2021 I came back to the game, having lost my previous account that was decently leveled up, I started fresh, many new cards, many new features, it was basically almost a new game to me. The meta plays were WAY more different and difficult to learn and play against, and then there was the MK, stupidly versatile as a solo card and even more ridiculous to face against when over leveled and supported by an over leveled wizard or a witch. It was a NIGHTMARE in every sense of the word to get to 4k trophies, then slowly I maxed out a few decks, climbed to about 6.5k and remained there due to the gap in skill level. It was definitely an experience having to go for about a year and a half without being able to do anything against a card that was found in roughly half the decks I played against, which were basically identical: Have MK in them, some anti-air support high damage card, cycle cards and a spell.
Yeah now everyone has maxed out full decks
That's just the Ladder experience, if it's not Mega Knight, you're facing E Barbs Rage or maxed out cycle decks that BM every 3 seconds.
Lll
Pretty good summary
I'm still stuck on 4k with lvl 11 cards, had to start a new profile to play the game
I actually love your effort you put in the videos. Searching their history, speech, editing, just perfect. Keep it up sir!
Well see you said it yourself, it’s very difficult for a midladder player to really switch decks because they’re so invested, so if someone has a level 13 witch and they have MK it’s basically over because of how much damage he used to do on landing. Yes it affects a number of people, but it helps so much more that it just makes sense. Yeah it sucks for top ladder players who like him, but those people have the luxury of just switching decks
As a mega knight user I don't use it as a win condition I use it defensively when a massive push of strong or weak cards occur like it was meant for
The only frustrating part for me with mega knight is not the spawn damage but the jump.
Agreed. They are really telling me a card this tanky is suppose to have almost as much mobility as a bandit? "YES! AND IT ALSO DOES MORE DAMAGE :D, AND HAS SPLASH :D, AND CANNOT BE STOPPED WITH A ZAP :D"
@@noahbohlin5462kite it
just use pekka or mini pekka to counter him lmao
I feel this. It makes even stalling MK improbable with things like skeletons or Ice Golem to the middle of the arena.
@@Onnet131 you can use .. dart goblin, valk, knight, pekka, mini pekka, mighty miner, inferno, e barbs, normal barbs and ice golem and those are just from top of my head, cards that are cheap and if well put also make counter push, mk is joke
This was a great video. I would love to see more like this on the Ice wizard, golem, and elites tho. The first two have always felt really underpowered while the latter feels broken. Again, great video
time is also psycological so as long as you keep on satisfying and unsatisfying your players will eventually feel like the final changes are worth it
conclusion: mega knight was just a mid ladder menace
As someone at 6000 with a level 13 mega knight seemed perfect the issue is over levelling It’s unfortunate that he’s getting the porygon treatment and being scapegoated for what is essentially a pay to win issue
Might I ask about the porygon treatment?
@@domotron3598 So basically in the gen 1 pokemon anime episode "Electric Solider Porygon" there was a scene with a ton of flashing lights w/o warning which caused many kids across Japan to have seizures due to how popular pokemon was and still is. In the episode, Pikachu was the one who caused the flashing lights. Despite this, Porygon was and still is banned from the pokemon anime because A.This was Porygon's Debut Episode and B. Game freak wouldn't ban Pikachu from the anime because Pikachu is Pokemon's mascot and the main character's signature pokemon. If they did ban Pikachu, they would've presumably lost lots of viewers and money. TL;DR Pikachu messed up but Porygon was blamed for it causing Porygon to be banned from the pokemon anime
@@domotron3598this is a reference to the Pokémon TV series. In summary, there was an episode staring porygon during the early days of the series. This episode ended up being banned after it featured a scene which was so bad on the eyes it caused seizures in children watching. Due to this, porygon has been banned from featuring in any anime episodes, to this day. Just because porygon was the star of that one episode, he’s never allowed to even appear again.
If you are interested, there are great videos on KZhead about the incident and you can even find the banned episode on the internet
@@domotron3598 Basically receiving the blame for poor animation decisions causing epilepsia. If it was just red and blue slowly alternating then it would have not caused issues.