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The second installment of working on the Whip Sword. This time I'm tackling the rigidity problem and try to get the sword mode to work. This will be the last video I'm making on this specific sword as I'm not a huge fan of working on a prototype. I'll much rather make a new, improved version in the future!
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Can you make a polearm? like a bardiche or helbard or just a battleaxe?
Lol I'm pretty sure I suggested the idea of something like a ratchet strap mechanism to pull the cable in your last video
how very german of you to overengineer a sword into uselessnes. ^^P like "schwerer Gustav". took so long to get it ready that the battle for france and the warsaw uprising were over before it could get a single shot off.
Have a person who knows how to handle a whip try to handle this weapon. Bet they'd have a few tips and tricks to give ya
Maybe you can somehow make it so it can only bend backward a certain angle. So as you start to swing, the bottom segments leave it behind and the top ones whip after them like a spring to reconnect the segments. then they lock together after the swing automatically. Maybe after every trigger pool it unlocks the segments. So as soon as you swing back you activate the trigger to let the force of the backswing disconnect them. Then you swing it toward the target and let go of the unlock trigger to make it so it contracts together during the swing to actually make it whip. There has to be a whipping motion for it to be a whip right? It's more like a sword-flail at the moment.
(finally not a joke comment) you can further increase rigidity by doing male and female joints in the segments of blade, itself. So, when they retract, they lock together mechanically. It won't make it as rigid as a solid steel piece, but it will increase the rigidity, noticeably.
That’s noted for the second version! Thanks for watching!
@@NjordArtisan that's actually what I tried to suggest to you in your comment on both your *first* whip-sword video *and* Skallagrims video commenting on it; it should *also* allow you to make it double-edged more like Ivy's whip-sword in Soulcalibur.
Yeah I think this is sort of more on the right track, you'll need to increase the profile of the blade bevels to something more obtuse- basically an axe profile to fit it all in, but it will give you room to run the cables internally as well. My inclination is to make it 'less sword' and more individual, jagged saw sections that occasionally play together in a semi-rigid lump of distilled fantasy autism But I'm a full time kitchen knife maker so I basically know jack shit about fantasy weapons and take that for what its worth :)
@@krissteel4074 I'm just a hobby blade smith, but I like the idea of a saw-type blade whip.
@@noneyabidness9644 My thinking as well is that if the sections are smaller then it will give a lot more flexibility for each part to have more angle being possible on its horizontal axis. Whereas with the larger sections in this 'Mk1' version they're more limited in how much they can bend in relation to each other- much like in a drive chain you have all the little bits giving it that flex.
I see two major problems with the design: 1. Don't use flat blade segments. Use V or W blade segments so lock into each other and makes it harder to move around. Look at Ivy's whip sword and you can see they don't use flat segments, more like an arrow shape. Given how the force should work, you might want a longer and harder non-sharpened side that stacks on top of each other as reinforcement. 2. Hide the wires inside the sword instead of outside. But I do have to give props for using tape measure as idea for the retraction mechanism. That's a genius idea.
Yeah definitely! Thats the two major improvements I want to have on the second version. ✌🏻
@@NjordArtisan I'm super late to make any reccomendations, but using only one cord might also be a problem once you incorporate interlocking segments. The segments might shift too much even when locked, especially if you use V segments. W segments may not have this problem as much. Also, the flexing bothers me. The segments have rather strong cutting power from the whip forces, but since the blade can't reliably align it's prone to just shatter the edge against anything that with significant hardness. Still really cool though! P.s. for extra cutting power maybe try to work more of a *slight* curve into the 2 segments below the tip?
Also try to make the segments internals straight on the spine side so it mechanically limits the blowback the sword can do. Rough diagram _______________________________ / \ __________/ / o o / I________/___________\_______I I I / / /____________________________/
I feel like there is infinite potential with creating Bloodborne weapons, but the whip sword is by far the hardest choice 😂
It can only get easier now, right? 😄
@@NjordArtisan pizza cutter next?
Eagerly awaiting the powderkeg series-
@@NjordArtisan until you try to make the hunter's axe
Just need to slot in some magnets to get the dual blades built.
You handcarved a gear with a file . I have nothing but respect for you sir , Outstanding work .
Thanks! I almost died when a friend showed me that I could buy the exact same thing for 5$ online 😂
I can't believe this isn't the top comment, it never even occured to me that you can actually do that... Bit mind blown to be honest, mad respect. 12/10
The cat is very insightful. Puking in shoes had been shown to be a convenient way to relieve stomach upset. 😝
He’s a very wise one 😄👍🏻
You know… I feel like if you wanted to get rid of the “whip” function of it, and add slightly smaller blades in between each segment (where the wires are) so they can be covered when retracted, you could potentially make a great extending sword (possibly).
I thought about sharpening the segment links for the second version. I guess that would roughly be the same as you described. Thanks for watching!
@@NjordArtisan Of course! Great content deserves a watch!😁
i think for a retractable blade, a 2 to 3 segment telescoping mechanism might work better
*I'm here to go beyond my limit, not to compromise*
Sounds similar to Renji's sword, Zabimaru, from Bleach, I think. It was always hard to tell whether the parts on the inside were blades or something else though.
Renji's zanpakuto is really well thought out now that I think about it after seeing this video. Each blade segment has a diamond shaped opening which provides a V shaped cutting edge while also providing space to attach the wire inside the segments instead of outside. Also each segment has >> points for when it retracts to keep shape. Props to kubo for putting that much thought into a weapon design.
I was about to mention Renji Abarai's zanpakuto too
Years ago, I saw an ad for a flexible sword that stored inside a leather belt. It had blade sections that had two holes drilled axially for a cable to go up and then back down through (ie, a single internal cable that went up the holes on the back side of each section, turned around at the point and came down the set of holes near the front, so the cable was not externally exposed) and the top and bottom of each blade section was machined in matching V shapes so that the sections interlocked and self aligned when tensioned vs just being butted against each other. The handle was just like a small brake lever to tension the sections together. It had no spring as all it was intended to do was loosen and be flexible enough to wrap around your waist inside the belt and did not have to separate like the fantasy chain sword, so just a tension lever was enough to get it to lock into a straight and rigid sword. Anyone remember seeing this? I can't find any references using Google, but it was well over 15 years ago...
I think I saw a similar concept art on pinterest once. I’ll also do a very different tension system for the second version. This one is just too unwieldy
Apex RazorSword, they have a website where they sell different sizes and lengths
@Jim Bo Nope, not it.. The Apex is just a really flexible one-piece blade. The sword I remember was literally a 1/4" thick shortsword blade essentially cut into about 1" long sections and threaded back together with a cable in the manner I described above, that when tensioned by the handle, would hold the sections together in a rigid blade again. Very similar to what Njord built...
I love the longer build process vids. Nowadays it’s so easy just to take the shortcut of just your generic build montage. Keep it up 👍
Thanks! I’m glad you liked it. I’m sometimes afraid people get bored by the long stretches of explanations without any action, so it’s nice to hear that 🙌
I appreciate you presenting the failure, it's such an important part of the iterative process of engineering that doesn't often get talked about. And it actually inspires me to improve my own unfinished projects (working on a cane sword now before I attempt a similar build).
Those working noises are something else. Also, in the previous video I gave the suggestion of putting pins on each link that fit in to the next one, this would add rigidity and you would have to worry only about the shear force applied to the pins. Another solution would be to have plates with perpendicular pins one on each end, that fit in to the spine of the blade, securing each two links together. I know you'll figure this out, keep it up bro ♥️
I died laughing while recording those 😂 I‘ve also got some kind of form fitting segments noted for the second version but I haven’t decided how exactly I’ll be making them. Thanks for watching!
Some improvements that come to mind. Though they would be far more difficult and would have their cons. 1. Move the wire system inside the blade itself. You could use the same guide principle you have now. Pro: This would allow the blade edge to have a smoother transition so you could cut deeper. Con: You would need space on the inside of the blade. This also might make blade alignment more difficult as the retention would be closer to the center axis. 2. Add another wire retaction system to the spine of the blade. Pro: This would improve the rigidity of the blade by adding a 3rd clamping force and spreading it out along the body of the sword more. Con: Due to it being on only the back side of the blade this may produce uneven force and lead to the blade curling. (Could be offset by having the other two wires close to the edge of blade) 3. Tab and slot system Pro: Would allow the blade to be more rigid while retacted. Con: Getting it to align with the retraction system would be difficult. 4. Polishing the gear and guide system (wood and brass) Pro: Would provide a smoother action and allow force to be more constantly applied due to lack of binding Con: Time consuming.
Very good points! I’ll keep those in mind for the second version 🙌
I appreciated the effort and time that went into creating such a enjoyable and engaging video, and I want to thank you for sharing it with us. Keep up the fantastic work!
I’m glad you liked it! And thank you for watching. It’s way easier to spend all these hours when you know someone appreciates the work 🙌
I feel like whip swords aren't meant to deal the same damage as a normal sword, but meant to do "little" cuts to inflict pain and laceration. Great job so far tho! This is so cool seeing all the problem solving and mechanics going into a complicated weapon
Unfortunately if this was the case you would just use a whip. The idea of a whip sword is it is both a whip for creating pain and a sword for clean efficient cuts. I think there is a good reason weapons like these only appear in fantasy as creating something that is functional at both becomes quite complicated and doesn't ever work nearly as well as just having two dedicated tools. That said it is 2023, I am sure there is a way to make it all work given the machining we have available to us these days.
Also "Im over here but you require a mortal Kombat level *get over here* ass whuppin" 😂
Ngl that bit where you put everything in slow motion and just kept swinging and missing made my day, the project is amazing and I would love to see more of that whip sword
I’m glad you liked it 🙌 I’ll definitely make a second version ✌🏻
This guy's content is awesome
Thanks 🙌
I just wanted to let you know you have a great sense of humor. If feels natural, without feeling tryhard or forced. I see these other channels where they pretend to slip and fall or act overly dramatic and scream "Whyyyyy!?!?" falling to the floor when their crap fails... Cringe as hell... Keep doing exactly what you're doing. It's funny, disarming and doesn't detract from the core content. Don't let this get to your head and leave you trying too hard to re-capture lightning in a bottle. Just be yourself.
Thanks a lot! I love to hear that! I’ve read some comments about me sounding too monotone and bored in the last video but that’s just how my voice sounds 😄 It’s nice to hear you find the skits fitting without derailing the topic 🙌
It's called the rule of cool, sometimes style matters more. It definitely looks really cool
Can't wait for version 2, this looks so cool already seeing it function as intended is exciting
dude this blade is awesome! the mechanics behind this are truly incredible. i cant wait to see future progress.
You might try running the wires (if you stick to them) _inside_ the blade, on either side of the linkages. And add a small spring to your trigger, that pushes it into the unlock position, that way you dont have to manually reset it.
The wires on the inside are planned for the second version 👍🏻 And that spring is a very nice idea. Thanks 🙌
Man this is so cool, especially as a Bloodborne fan! Like seriously, this is a really cool build and I love the building process alongside the creativity. Honestly, I am wondering if you will be the guy to finally make a true doom blade from Doom eternal! Cheers!
Thanks a lot! I’ll have to write down the Doom blade 🙌
Bravo. Looking forward to the second version.
I really like see you working! Loking forward whip sword v2 videos!
a tricky thing you are building! some ideas: 1 if you put the spring on the other end, you can get rid of the ball bearings alltogether, if you dont need the length. 2 you could weld each connector to one of the blade segments, so you have half the moving parts, more stability. i think it can be done in a way to not lose length, but would require a large redo of the segments
Sadly i need the length over the bearing, otherwise the handle would be twice as long. But i like the idea of welding one end. I’ll write that down, thanks 🙏
man I'm so happy you revisited this build and really interested in what the V2 will look like! loved the choice of music lol was very entertained. more importantly, what's your cats name and will he be helping in the future? also just remembered how much the sword reminds me of bloodborne heavy whip, without screaming hunters trying to remove my head with it. great work overall!
Thanks a lot! I can’t wait to sink my teeth into V2, i think I’ve got some cool ideas for that one. The cats name is Neo, he’s my parents and surely will be helping from time to time. Even if it’s just cleaning cobwebs from behind the cabinets, like he did before this video 😄 Thanks for watching 🙌
I love your ingenuity and your video was fun and engaging. Loved the sounds. Can't wait for part 2
Thanks!
This is incredible. Keep it up! Can't wait to see the v2.
Thanks! Will do 🙌
In addition to some other comment suggestions, one way to possibly help the rigidity and usability is to modify the trigger in a couple of ways: 1) add more secure points between the lever and the gear and/or a higher gear ratio between the spring gear and the lever. Either of these would serve as added torque to the locking mechanism and will take more energy to overcome. 2) decrease possible user error for securing the blade. Ie, make the trigger mechanism control the *release* of the cable, rather than adding tension to the cable. This would allow you to apply theoretically any amount of locking force to the spring and release all of it with a lever, rather than relying on the force of your hand and a single lever to keep the gear locked against all the force of swinging the blade. If you really only on the grip force, you lose the advantage of automation (humans biomechanically have more control over force applied when static as compared to when in motion). Also several versions down the line, it could allow for a variable extension length, depending on how long the trigger is released while swinging.
Great ideas! I want to have sort of like a ratchet mechanism on the next version, where i can pump it tighter with the trigger and then have a separate release or something
I think you need more armor when testing that thing, just in case. Remember that textile armor was a thing and just layers of clothing would be better than nothing.
love the effort you put in your videos man hope to see more from you!
My favorite Type of sword. Looking forward to the next version
As always: 23min of great entertainment! Sven, I love how you make videos and make a torch sound (You are the next Peter Cullen😜) 😂! This sword need version 2.0. I'll be waiting:)!
I’m glad you liked it, Dawid! I was laughing my ass off while recording those torch sounds. By far the most difficult part of the build 😂
@@NjordArtisan Now We all know who ask for help in case of mic failure :P
@@DBCraftWorld for you anytime 👌🏻
dude!! you almost cut your own leg!! thought i wouldn't see you again! be careful!
Will do ✌🏻
Also absolutely love the sound interpretations absolutely amazing torch sounds
Love the working sounds
The whip sword is pretty cool, and I'm looking forward to the Mark II version. I suspect you're an individual that could build a shishkebab sword from Fallout and actually make it actually work.
The Shishkebab Sword looks pretty cool. I’ll have to write that down 😄👍🏻
love the working sounds
The amount of work alone put into this is extremely commendable! Good work sir!
Hello Skallagrim! I know you are here)
I am not the first
I’m so sorry to tell you that you are 😵
@Njord Artisan under different circumstances I would be happy, but I live in Egypt and I have exams tomorrow. The video is worth it, though. (So for legal defence, I am not the first)
@@Crownpanda my condolences 😄 And good luck tomorrow!
@Njord Artisan thanks! I'm really looking forward to the next video
Please never give up on this you have an amazing idea and I think that you can do it!
Thanks! I’ll keep at it 🙌
Loved the video, awaiting whip sword the second
Started watching out of sheer curiosity, stayed for the amazing real working sounds! In all seriousness just subscribed to your channel because the quality of the video and content is really really good.
Thanks! I’m glad you liked it I hope to keep up the quality 🙌
great vid man gave another like. love the editing style and cant wait for mark II
Thanks a lot! I’m glad to hear that 🙌
Can we talk about the fact that the guy made a gear from scratch using just a file and patience? I think that deserves a mention.
Thanks 😄 A friend send me a link to where I could have bought that thing for 5$ and I nearly died on the spot 😂
Can't wait to see a functional version in part 3
I'm really proud of you, you can use a compass and sharpie or marking fluid to set up round or concentric measurements. Instead of introducing increasingly loose tolerance into a system you want tight
You ! I liked for the mic pack. But I was way more excited for the impromptu shop sounds.😂😁👍 great Job!
omg this means it works with a v blade i have loved this series, thank you for creating this
I normally don't watch sponsor ads but I really like the jewelry and stuff and am definitely going to pick some up
The sound effects were perfect. 👌
This is top tier content bro. You need more attention. Not to mention the whole idea is badass
Love the new mic! Much support for your channel love your videos!
Once I figured out where to put it on my shirt the sound was waaay better than before 🙌 Thanks for the support, I really appreciate it!
The sound effects are on point as well.
Happy to see the sowrd survive and you are still working on it. I really this concept on the wip sword cause it does solve some of the problem with them. Maybe you can get another sword youtube to review yours?
Just found this channel, I'm very excited for version 2!
Welcome aboard! 😄
I salute you for trying this.
Awesome video. The struggle of building it is what makes the content good lol. So I’m glad you’re going to make a version 2.0 and just remember it’ll be good content when you get frustrated 😉
I’ll keep that in mind! Glad you enjoyed my suffering 😄
I have a design where it can be a double-edged sword and the Integrity of the framing can be more sturdy.i just finished watching your first video. I was going to point out some of the things that you already improved. I have to tell you Kudos👏🏽👍🏾 on the mechanism very good. These fantasy weapons have their own genre now.
I am loving your content so far brother. You’re funny as hell and the bit where you kept missing had me crying 😂 I’m looking forward to seeing whatever you come up with next
Thanks! 🙌
You could cover up the wire with half a metal tube cut vertically, and overbuild it a bit so it can withstand the extra percussive force of slamming into it's target, with the rounded portion right before the spine potentially allowing displaced matter to bypass if it's low profile enough. Granted, I'd also add a few segments and make it longer. Partly because I'm a Beast Cutter fan, partly because if I brought that thing somewhere expecting a fight, I'd want the extra range and security a whip or a sword is supposed to provide. I see some of the other suggestions, and I think you're already closer to a Beast Cutter than a Threaded Cane, which has a lot of very small blades and seems like more tiny segments than I think you want for this project. Great work. I'm super glad to see someone taking up this line of homebrew engineering, and I love what I'm seeing. Please keep it up!
You are getting there!
Zu geil man! Hab mich totgelacht und eine erfolgreiche Verschlimmbesserung war's auch! Kann einfach nicht immer alles klappen! Trotzdem mega geiles Video geworden. Bin mehr als gespannt auf V2!!
Das freut mich zu hören 🙌
this'll be a journey, subbed!
I realy love this project!
Thanks for watching! 🙌
Also the thin linking rail parts can be sharpened to allow them to cut when they hit too
Loved the video man!
Thanks 🙌
Thank you🙏
this is just dedication my friend
A complicated solution to the side wire issue could be either finding a way to run the tension wire down the back of the spide or create an internal housing in the blade segments. A modification to help with rigidity could be adding raised sections at the joionts so under applied force they press into eachother instead of rolling. Like book ends pressed together. Could also styalize them as spikes
Honestly, those are amazing sound effects.
One has to respect someone willing to show their process with all the failures included.
Frickijng respect bro!
I recently got this video in my recommended, and I hate how you beat me to making an idea I had during middle school under 10 years ago. I had thought of everything, like using two cables and slanted segments to make sword mode more consistent, and interchangeable tips, but I never had the money or space to actually try and make it! And now I'm an adult and I *still* don't have the money or space to do it!
So much effort in the work! Thank you for sharing such a great idea and your build! Keep up the hard work, I look forward to seeing more and watching old vids! Liked & Subbed! PS the music in the montages is on point and the ramping on the levels in and out are really well done! ✌️
Wow thanks a lot 🙌 I’m glad you found the editing enjoyable, I feel like finally starting to get the hang of it
@@NjordArtisan I use premiere, what about you? I can recommend some good channels that teach more advanced techniques. If you want?
@@lastnameintown i was using hitfilm express at first and switched to davinci resolve prior to the last video. And sure, I’ll gladly take recommendations 👍🏻
@@NjordArtisan I left a comment yesterday with 2 recommendations but it is gone. Did you see it?
I would suggest "nesting" the blade/segments so on impact they become more held together. The main benefits and targets for the "whip sword" are that it can fold over a guard, it does not need to be as easy to bend in the opposite direction. You don't fight with it like a actual whip where it needs that S motion to send the force along a wave. It's more like the benefits of a flail you are wanting it to hinge around the block so a "C"(or "r") motion is what you want the edge area to be able to bend and wrap but the back area to want to lock and resist bending in its direction. If this was mace/flail combo it would be "easy" (not really) to have the chain pull it tight on to a ridged pin to stop most flex. So don't know if comments can translate this but Edge => \ \ \\ \\ \ \ Layering the ridged blade like this means when you hit lower on the blade the higher part can hinged and wrap around to get the cut. But hitting higher on the blade the segments lock together delivering the force continually down to the handle. This means the force on the wire is only real their to keep the tension and segments in place. As a "solid" blade where these are slid tightly together this works exactly the same to provide strength on its. Each segment would look more like this \ \\ \\ \ Then interlock together
Thanks for the like, if you want, I can draw up the more detailed design for the segments. They would be one piece, should be reasonable to machine out before heat treating. Parts would interlock (top downish view) | ||| | | With the "chain link" you have being slotted into the segments keeping them dropping only so far, with a central line male female pin for the cable to fit down. This should allow strength and protection for the cable as the cutting portion should remain covering these gaps as folded. So let me know if you want and where to send more detail designs?
this is genuinely the closest i've ever seen someone get w a real-life whip sword so i believe in u and i believe in whip sword 2.0 ur doing this for all of us, the whip sword community
The quality of this production is impeccable and I enjoy the humor
Thanks! 🙌
For rigidity you either need to make a v shape on each section where they connect, or some sort of internals that connect when the sections retract.
Cool to come back to this
I love your transitions
Yooooo absolutely sick bro, Sword-whip is super cool🔥🔱🔱
Thanks! I’m glad you liked it 🙌
Dude really just uses whatever he has. respect
"Ah, I've got a belt sander!" Is one of the funniest, most relatable things. Forgetting the easy solution when you have a complex task or are just tired which then adds more complexity and more tiredness haha.
I love this!!
sehr gut gemacht
I had thought about this a while when I was younger and designing swords by sketches. I had the idea of using a gear chain and attaching blade segments to it. Seeing your videos made me think that you could also make this a rigid blade by skipping segments and by the pull of a wire through the chain you could basically kink the chain creating rigidity. Just a thought. I like what you are doing. God bless!
OK, fine, you have earned my subscription. Love the humor throughout
Awesome, thank you!
Inlay larger chain links in the spine of the blade in such a fashion it keeps it straight an rigid when it sword mode
Love how the tip scorpions back at you in that intro
That thing has a mind of its own😄
Amazing stuff man. Your humor (and content) reminds me of I Did A Thing, but not in a way that it doesn't feel unique. Excited to see more videos bro
Thanks! I love his content. But don't think I'll do a feet reveal any time soon 😁
after your amazing job with sound effects i had to drop a sub!
Thanks! 😂
You win me with the Mickey sounds xD Great work with the sword
For the handle, I would make it more circular, giving you more room for the retraction and locking mechanism. It would also be good for creating more resistance if you had the wire going over a slope.
Interesting and entertaining, thank you.
Thanks for watching 🙌
This is really cool! It reminds me of Zabimaru from Bleach
He himself making all the sounds sent me Cheers, mate
I think your focusing on a heavy cut when what you might want is more of a barbed cutter that can wrap limbs. A interlocking tube with 3 evenly spread bladed edges that point inwards (like saw teeth) is what I've been thinking. As for locking, a device at the end that you can pull the cord through before it locks. Less conventional sword and more reach. (As an added note, the tubes can be free floating but if you make a scabared with a twist guide they can be realigned.) Regardless, nice project.