"REACTS" A close call in a 4x4 water crossing. They nearly lost the Range Rover!
So close to a total 4x4 drowning in this water crossing. Let’s learn about River Crossings from this situation that could have been so much worse!
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I was the driver in that video. You got it mostly right Matt 😂
lol. You did well. Is the rangy petrol?
Thanks. Yes it is with megajolt. Didn’t miss a beat even when submerged
i think i bought a bonnet from the green disco bud from your dad. well done
Good for the driver keeping his cool and not panicking. As to experiences we were on a causeway once that is exposed to tidal waters and it was a short distance from what during high tide becomes an island to the mainland, I may have misinterpreted the tidal times because as we started going back I could see the water rising on the causeway pretty fast, too fast for my comfort levels, and I could feel the tires hydroplaning. I could see the end/dry-land only a few meters away but those last few meters were really scary if we make it on time before our car starts floating away.
Hi Matt, if you see a video, heritagerat, history of bucklands Valley. In it, you see how many stamp batteries and dredges were working in the area. Bucklands there was over 60. One bridge is made up of 3 arms. So holes and rocks and gravel have been washed in. So, it needs to be taken into account when crossing rivers in the high country. Notice it is an inside bend. The heavy rocks drop out, river worn, rounded. Heavy sand. You disturb it. Think like a highbanker. It just washes away.
Thanks for sharing MM. Cheers
The secret is slow and steady don't let the tires Spin and you can go a lot farther
Another great vid Matt. Merry Christmas to the Mad Matt team. I love this area of VIC. Nothing worse than hearing water splash against the car at that speed. Keep up the great work Matt 👏👏👏
And not only do you need traction to power the vehicle forward and to fight the water, but if your vehicle is going in deep water, the flotation/buoyancy of the car leaves you with even less traction. So deep water makes things go south exponentially.
100%
agree, most modern 4x4''s float really well.
Your video is great and shows the danger of river crossings! Here in Germany we had about 3 years ago at two regions (Eifel & Ruhrgebiet) massive floodings around some rivers, where the water was flowing thru streets and swept every away. There were parked cars, oil-tanks from different houses, trees and garbage cans flowing thru the streets. A lot of Bridges broke down, it was a horror who started at daytime end get even deadly (over 170 people died) at nighttime. I write these lines, because there was one video of a really stupid person going viral! He was driving thru the floded streets and was angry about the other cars in front of him who drove really slowly, while he was filming and live streaming his ride. Then he was starting crying, because his engine stoped after hydrolocked and his car began to flow without control, till the video abruptly ends. He and his car were found two days later about 20 Km from the place the video and Stream ended. Yes driving thru water is fun and a cheap underbody cleaning, but everyone should now how dangerous the waterflow can be and the most recommended knowing every driver must have is a for these conditions special prepared car!
Wow what a wild story.
Great job in the Rangey well done 👍 👌
Thanks Matt, very entertaining.
Watching your videos from Southern California. Learned lots of Winch, Offroad Tips, and Ideas from you. Please keep them coming. Cheers!
Awesome! Thank you!
Great video. Old mate did a good job getting out of that. Merry Christmas to everyone
Thanks, you too!
Merry Christmas ⛄🎁 and happy new 🆕 year 🕛
I'd say the last crossing was because everyone else said "Bugger that!" and old mate in the Disco had to then get back. I had water break over the bonnet in my sierra a few times, the back end would then start to float and it was more good luck than good management that I kept it pointed at somewhere I could get out.
Matt, you need to point out that this is not the regular Macalister river track. I have driven the track a lot and I am not sure where these guys are? The Macalister river can become impassible at this time of year and I have turned around rather than risk a crossing in fast flowing water. I went into the first river crossing you come to from the Licola direction and been in to half-way up my windscreen in places even in the summer.
@MadMatt, the last video "Crossing another river" looks to be the same as the first, just back the other way. You can see the fallen tree in the background and layout of the crossing is the same. Wonder if your assessment of him being knocked off the track by the water pressure was correct. Didnt want it to happen a second time. Really appreciate the videos and I'm learning through others as well.
I think you’re correct.
I was at another situation where I drove into a whole thing and it was shallow but guess what the water was up over the seat it ruined the starter and I had to get towed out to the road
I'd love to learn more about hydraulic'ing engines going thru water...
Ways to hydro-lock an engine: 1. If your engine is not sealed properly, especially if you don't have a snorkel. 2. If you stall and water flows up the exhaust into the cylinders 3. If you back-up and water flows up the exhaust into the cylinders If you're driving a gas engine truck and you don't have properly sealed air filter box, valve covers, head gaskets, the intake manifold, distributor/distributor cap, loose spark plugs, improperly seated spark plugs, exhaust manifolds/headers, a crack in the exhaust pipe(s), etc.. Diesels are not as sensitive as they don't have spark plugs, SP wires, a distributor. Anywhere water can seep into the engine will cause hydro-locking.
I’m sure we could teach you about that. 😁
This is a mate who did his race car motor when he sent it into a massive water hole and destroyed the motor
Man oh man that would’ve got more than the adrenaline flowing, geezuz. I bet ya they unpacked that a 100 times around the campfire that night! Good to see it ended well, memories made right there🤘 We had a hairy moment at the base of Hamersley Gorge in WA. Had been raining golf balls for about 4 hrs. At about 11pm we were on the Valley floor on approach to the gorge when it started filling up like a bath tub around us. Pretty scary as water looks worse at night. We were in a 76 series. We knew we couldn’t go back and had to go forward and cross a creek that was flowing quite fast - we could see the Spinifex bushes floating at quite a speed on approach (we were already in water but knew where we’d hit the creek). We were pushed sideways but got out. Our experience helped us - that road is built up so you never drive to the side of the road in case the sides are washed out. If they’re not washed out the sides will be that soft you’ll get bogged anyway. 2nd gear low range worked. I’ve been up here for 20 yrs and it’s mind blowing how fast a road can disappear. Definitely my scariest time up here. We were the last vehicle through, the next day the road was gone with 3 foot drop offs cut into the road.
That’s wild. I’d be scared
I did something similar to years ago my Chevy truck I had water 2 inches over the hood
The root cause of his problems is to select a line immediately below the small rapids. That's where erosion at the river bed is most pronounced due to strong turbulent downriver flow and back flow at the base of the water column. Result: deep water. The other vehicle chooses a line where water has (relatively) laminar flow. Result: little erosion at the river bed, shallow water depth. For selecting a fording line, observe and analyze river hydrodynamics first.
Hey MadMatt you should interview the driver hes been doing the high country for over 20 years, he's got so much experience a podcast with MadMatt and MadMick 🙏
Yeah that would be interesting. .
You made some good points Matt. Most video's show crossings where vehicles are going too fast across. I'm sure if you took away the water, they would be driving at a more correct speed. Why does the water initiate a speed panic? Harking back to pre-barge days crossing the Jardine, I well remember post-mortems on the vehicles that DIDN'T make it across and found that those vehicles had more than 15 psi in tyres. All that did cross had aired well down. One point you missed was whether the Rangie in question was an automatic or a manual. I know that the driver in this instance had no choice but to change gears, forward to reverse, but I make the point that in a manual once you get water between clutch and flywheel it's game over! No drive, no go! On the whole, some good points, well made.
You know I’ve heard this about clutches and water but in all my years I’ve never seen it happen. My suspicion is it’s a myth developed from old days when clutches didn’t have the same clamping forces they do today.
Oh and thanks for the kind words
Nothing to do with clamping pressures mate. As long as the clutch is not depressed, water cannot effect it. But if the clutch is under water, ie water bungs have not been put in place (Range Rovers have this facility), then when the clutch is pressed water can enter between friction disc and flywheel or pressure plate, reduces friction just when you need to load it up to power out.@@MadMatt4WD
I wonder why they didnt use a second vehicle or winch for recovery when the front of the rangerover was up on the bank. Once the front is up, the vehicle is relatively safe and it might be cleverer to recover from a safe position rather than go back and end up in a worse situation.
It's obvious the RangeRover got into that Situation because it was Washed down the River (The Last Part of the Video is the RangeRover Turning around and Going Back). So if the Other Vehicle wouldn't have been able to get through too, to enable a WinchRecovery.
What I’ve found in these situations it’s easy to get tunnel vision and not stop to think of all the possible options. I’ve been trying to learn how to be more aware in stressful situations.
Walk up every crossing first "if there no crocs" ha ha!
Were the big hole is is the main crossing to the right from a camp site but the hole is too deep. To the left of the hole is to cross the river and seems he has slipped in to the home.
Ok.
I was in a remote area, but on a county road. The road went through a creek, and it was pretty wide at the crossing but not too far up on the body of the vehicle. What I didn't know was that there had previously been a heavy rain and a hole was washed out at the other side. The county ended up moving the road upstream a little ways because the old location kept washing out. I was in a little 2WD pickup with a Power Brute rear end. Just as I was almost across, my heart sunk as I felt my truck go down and saw water wash over my hood. Fortunately it kept moving and pulled up the bank. Didn't get any water in the engine. In that same county, or an adjoining county, the Sheriff went looking for a stolen vehicle and tried to cross a low water bridge after a big rain. His vehicle was washed off the bridge and he drowned.
Wow wow wow. Wild stuff
Then there's another situation I was in years ago I collected scrap metal and guess what I was out in the woods pulling my trailer around I got stuck and some water that's 2 in deep and I didn't know it there's a big rainstorm coming and by the next morning my Chevy Suburban the water was up to the back window and it was freezing cold and another track had to come out there and snatched the crap out of me I asked for help all night but nobody came until that morning
Then there's another situation I was in years and years ago I was in a Toyota 4Runner up at Boggs & Boulders and guess what I drove into a hole and guess what the mud was about 4 ft deep in the vehicle saying can I had to get dragged out and towed home a 100 MI
3 guys were drowned this week in the UK attempting a river crossing in 4x4s. I've also seen guys trapped submerged in competition trucks when they have rolled on sections that involve water. Water needs to be treat with the upmost respect because when things go wrong you won't have minutes or hours to try correct the issue, you will only have seconds.
100%
I watched this twice. Seriously, credit where credits due. Can't believe that motor didn't stall; and yes probably should have done a recce but some good driving and a great vehicle stopped this from turning into a disaster.
Maybe the gent tried to take a different line to main crossing or something.
at the and it is not second rover and another river but they were going back.... same crossing other way and that is where he probably got swept away from on the way there
I can drive a two-wheel drive in most places that some four-wheel drives can't even get to
Hmmm yeah ok come follow me
If they haven't engaged 4wd.
Thankfully I have a sedan and never get near these places😅.
😂😂
The last clip was the same vehicle going back the same crossing. You can see the roofrack. My guess is that the vehicle was washed away.
Yeah right. But he drove out but regardless it was not the best day
The second video looks like the same crossing and same range rover just the other direction, I think he was the lead vehicle and everyone else got scared and wanted to turn back, I say the same crossing as the tree across the river in both clips and the land look the same, but I may be wrong
I never thought of that but I think you’re right
not to mention putting fan through radiator
Viscous fan. No doesnt happen
@@mattluszczak8095 Strange my son put fan through radiator on Fraser going through deep fresh water. Nissan patrol
matt i played w u in warzone
I don’t play warzone so maybe someone else.
The water was flowing clear until he added a distinct brown colour of body fluid.
😁
Do not do anything like this in the Bundera or sick rock climbs she’s too rare, picnic’s day trips and photo shoots from now on! Erm what is happening with the Bundy rebuild btw?
I’ll try. Not much happening to be honest
Great video Matt! its actually funny that your latest react video features a river crossing, as another channel i follow and am subscribed to release his top 10 crossings, and trust me, you start to sweat just from watching the last few as they get scarier and scarier. But this guy knows how to drive his vehicles. kzhead.info/sun/hclthKdxh4aolKs/bejne.htmlsi=ew9wo6eV6xvvwCPT
It would have been nice to see how it got in that situation to begin with, rather than just cutting to it in trouble…
That’s all we’ve got to work with.
Poor choice of crossing and no prep done ie walk or watch other vehicles crossing. Driver fault either way imho
Bloke was trying to be a hero and create youtube content... ok, maybe not, but he was trying to take the "not the best line for the obsicle to show off his "skills"". The correct path was quite undramatic as the Toyota shows, It is/was a V8 RRC with simex pattern tyres (there is a remold brand that replicated them). He got towed over the second river as his engine was on about 4 cylinders I'd say, which is surprising with a Rover V8 that it didn't buck at the first sign of getting damp... The vehicle itself is more than capable of the depth providing a few mods have been made, the breathers and ideally need to be re made and pulled right up, I just felt sorry for his kit as it'll be soaked for days....
Well at least he didn't have to change his undies as they got washed when he went backwards.
Lol
👇That's always a mistake if you're in water that deep never back up just wait until your recovery vehicle arrives
Two things, Always check your exit before renting the river, Downstream if possible He was bloody lucky he didn't get water into his bell housing in a manual. It would have been all over otherwise, water on clutch plate is no good. Only a idiot would Cross where he did.
Renting a river is a bit of a luxury in this rental crisis.
predictive spelling , you know what I mean, '"entering"'
Range Rovers should stay in Melbourne.
Seems like range rovers get out of the difficult stuff. Stay with your toyota coolaid in melbourne
who owns a Toyota?@@mattluszczak8095