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I feel like bill was having a bad day when he graded these cards 😂
Bill needs to get laid off. I'm glad I saw this video. I was planning to try Beckett after using just PSA but now I will NEVER use Beckett. They have NO idea what they're doing. I doubt their black labels mean anything honestly.
@@wind016 they don’t watch rattle’s video on black labels
@@wind016 I've had a great experience with CGC. They're a little tougher than PSA, but are nothing like what I just saw in this video with Beckett. I think psa is a little to lenient, and CGC is just about right on how a card should be graded.
@@wind016 no bill has no idea. They probably hired him during all the hype and obviously he doesn't know what he's doing
@@muskyhunter1994 thanks for referring rattle. I've never heard of him and Im liking his videos
After watching this I can confidently say I’m never grading my cards with Beckett.
Agree 100% PSA it is.
@@siegistic psa is a joke
you won't get the price your asking for without Beckett
I’m never grading my cards period *yawn*
@Rynik05 so who do you suggest between the two? Is one company's more reputable or valuable? I always see psa everywhere. I'm going to be grading my first card soon
I Beckett 9 amounts to a PSA 10. There is a reason Beckett 10’s and black labels get premium prices on the market.
Yet BGS seems remarkably inconsistent.
psa is also inconsistent af
Moral of the story: put a note in asking for the grader to not be Bill xD
This video has really shown me that Beckett is not the move lol
Beckett the others are much easier to get high marks which makes people go to other companies. All those 9.5 would be 10's at the other grading places.
How come? honestly feel like Beckett is the best just because you can add sub grades and see what a card didn't get a 10, Plus they do .5 grading whereas PSA rarely does. Labels also look cooler and the cases seem more durable
@@Mysticfateee how come? Watch the video again lol. Never was gonna do Beckett, but after seeing this, I'll completely stick to PSA. Hell nah are people going to fail grading my cards because of some ghost colour added, madness. That Bill in the video either didn't have a great day or saw the smallest thing ever and couldn't grade, which is such bs, there simply wasn't anything to see. So weird. I'm glad Rev did this video and informed us.
It's sad they see a submission like Revs with a 100 and tell Bill to be hard on him cause they Know Rev can offord to send more in. These cards were clean
@@DragonyCat PSA has a worse rep, especially since their increased staff that gave low headings on more than one occasion that deserved better
Honestly this makes me question card grading as a whole more than just Beckett. It just goes to show that the grade is subjective to the individual grading more than the standards of the company and community.
That's why you grade with AI first. Ie. MANA. Get all the exact attributes and then send to Beckett with full AI lookup. It's easy to get black labels, and you know which ones will regrade black label before submitting. Beckett doesn't want to look stupid, so they use the already thoroughly graded AI attributes. They know that they can't grade better than laser measurements, so they give you what AI gave you.
it really does, but i’ve always known it was BS. Because you can look at 2 of the same cards in the same condition and get a different grade. Or crack a case and resend it and get a different grade.
@@BigDirtDawg do people do that often, cracking them up and sending them to other services? I feel like the only bad outcome would be that you wasted x amount of money on the original grading and everything, but if you could get a PSA 10, it would probably be worth it, but no idea if people actually do this often...
I'd honestly crack one of each different type of card maybe 2 high grades and 2 low grades...make sure you keep track of what the original grade is. Send the same cards back to the same grading company and see if the grade changes more than half a point. If all of em or more than half are over a point different that the original than I would question their grading in an email, phonecall...fb post...or someway that notifies th of the inconsistency...but I personally would wanna be on the phone with someone...trying to recoup some $$
Beckett in my experience tends to under grade cards. A Becketts 6.5 alot of times will grade between a 7.5-8.5 at PSA. If you're gonna use Beckett only send the best cards you have and look them over carefully. Beckett grades do carry a higher premium for anything over a 9.5. Black label 10s carry a stupid premium over PSA 10s for the same card. Sorry Beckett burned you on some of those cards.
Psa 10s are a joke most of the time
oh well
Bill woke up and just chose violence that day 😂
Beckett is like that professor who brags about “only 3 students have ever gotten an A in my class” 🤣 like wtf
All grading companies should be required to sent the reason for the grade with the card. It’s just wild someone could be upset that day and be a garbage individual who takes it out on a PAYING customer. It’s wrong man.
Yeah that’s what I don’t understand about these companies at least have decency to actually explain why and how
@@danielsmith9789 Umm....MANA Grading Services
Why would they bother? There's really no need. They could charge extra for it sure. They're fairly reputable tbf? Imagine how much longer that would take, it takes them long enough to get the cards back to you as it is 😂
They do, that’s what subgrades tell u but it’s very stupid BGS/CGC charge extra for this when that’s literally the point of using their company..
@@matthewcahill1749 bro they do.. it’s called subgrades but rev didn’t pay extra to have them on the label. It’s super stupid they charge extra to print the label properly, the numbers are calculated regardless and that’s why people use BGS/CGC 🤦♂️
I never had any problems with Beckett…. Even a few Black Labels are in my collection
You are my favorite KZheadr in the world, I can't believe you are going to give 5 of these away to random people you are amazing.
Send the "coloured error" ones to PSA and see what they have to say, that would be a good video to create conversation *sips tea*
CGC once gave me an "inked" mark on the back. I looked all over the card and I found a weird light/dark ink blur, but I know for a fact it wasn't inked because it was pulled straight from a pack. I feel like these graders sometimes don't account for factory ink errors. To be fair I do respect and like CGC grading, but every business has Quality control/employee aspects that could result in failures.
Yeah. I wonder if it's a fact of they know the possibilities of factory error but there's no way to differentiate the difference between purposely inked or inked after the fact compared to factory error, so you kinda just have to say it's inked just based off that there is even a small chance it's not factory
@@staylifted2326 I agree. There's no real way for them to tell the difference.
@@staylifted2326 or if this was because a submission of 100 cards and one grader was asked to grade and he just put a grade without looking or this bill guy doesn't know what he's doing
I mean there has to be some references and ways to consult rather than just saying “inked” there is science behind is topic -and if your paying between 20-100 dollars for a card to be graded, the effort should be there.
A buddy gets black labels pretty frequently he scans them in and basicly puts all his cards thru a process before sending off tho too
im not sure if u will get a perfect black lable but i sure hope so. good luck
I thought sixteen months was bad for a quarterly special from PSA at 8$ a slab. You sent a submission off almost two years ago and got it back and didn't even know what it was. At least PSA sends an email saying hey your cards are done. That was a rough submission and it's nice to see that BGS makes stuff up to not grade cards as well because of the overwhelming backlog that is the current status of card grading.
Yes...the "overwhelming backlog" is why the decided not to grade not even a handful of cards xD wtf
This is why I’m starting to trust other grading companies like AGS that’s use machines and software to grade their cards and are transparent with their customers About their process
The same in germany We also have a grading company here called Absolute Objective Grading. These also have an artificial intelligence-supported, highly objective evaluation method with additional validation by specialists. Everything is transparently explained on the homepage, how the assessment works and what is assessed and how. In addition, the customer repeatedly receives emails with the current status. At the end you can look at your own cards to see exactly what the shortcomings were. Beckett and PSA can learn something from that
I haven't graded with AGS yet, but I've heard more and more good things about them over the past few weeks and I'm hoping they continue to grow and eventually become the gold standard.
You got 6s from pack pulled cards. 6 means there is chipping, notching, stains, fuzzy corners, etc. It is INSANE to get a 6 on a carefully packed card. A 6 is typically like...a kid put them in their pocket to bring them to school for trade before sleeving and top loading them.
On the second ungraded pikachu I saw barely visible darker coloring. Probably just how the card normally looks but it could be something else I have no idea why Bill was having a rough day.
I’m gonna keep it 💯 here. No offense to “Bill” but these were graded so poorly. These are straight from the pack, into a sleeve and sent in. The centering isn’t bad from what I’m seeing and unless the corners or edges are trash, there’s no reason for that many 7’s and 8’s LET ALONE 6’s These people are paid to provide a service and we know people are grading out of jealousy or taking their day out on customers. It’s disgusting man lol
So right!
American cards are made in a way where it's easy for improfections and Becketts standards for grading is way more strict then CGC or PSA
Usually it’s psa
They're told by Beckett to do this so people don't send a ton of bulk cheap cards in and they keep population reports low.
Straight from the pack and into a sleeve doesn’t mean anything.. and for how English cards are printed this is basically what to expect. 8s-9.5s are as good as it gets unless u know what perfection looks like
Place the “inked/color” color cards in between a few cards. And look at the edges of the card. I think thats where they are indicating ink. You may see it there.
i think it’s just some BS. Did you see how many 6.5 and 7 this dude gave him on pack fresh cards. There is no way in hell
I think bill was intoxicated during this grading session 🤣
Beckett seems to just give random numbers. I feel like you can take out send in and regrade one of the 6.5s and they will give you like a 9 on it if you regrade it enough
I'd be interested in seeing some of these cards cracked and submitted to CGC for a direct comparison. I often see people say CGC is the toughest, but they seem much more fair.
Yea do the ho ohs or something and just send all em to psa or cgc
@Slumbr Tracks so true
Cgc seems Like their standards have changed as of late.
Rev, this is absolutely crazy! Can you have these re-graded with PSA? Even looking from here they don't look like 7's and 8's.. unbelievable.
He wouldn’t make anywhere near enough money for crossover to be worth it. He’s already neg from all the product and grading fees on relatively cheap cards.
he goes poor aultomatically XD jk but is not worth it
Yeah, I understand it wouldn't be worth it because of the cost, but id want to for the better grade. Imo, psa grades the card for what it is. The other guys don't always do that..
I love watching ur vids they are amazing keep it up I have been collect8ng Pokémon for so long😊
YES! Because you get really good Pokémon cards every time in a Pokémon pack👍🏿😃
Yes
I definitely feel like you have a chance at a black label! Beckett seems to be a really tough grading system but you seem to have some good luck with graded cards.
This is going to be insane. I you you are going to get at least 1 black label 10
I can see a lot of marks on the 6.5 shining ho-oh but i dont think it should be as low as 6.5
Perfect cards are very hard to get but I think you might have 1 :) I have never owned or even touched a graded card. This is just awesome to watch.
Let me know if you list any of these !☺️ and thanks for the content Rev back into collecting after 5 years, loving it. Beckett is tough for sure
Yes you probably will because you are the best Pokémon person I watch you I love your videos and please
Yes Beckett are really tough but 9.5 in beckett is equivalent to PSA 10, in the hockey cards world Beckett is the garded cards that are worth the most.
You should send the “recolored” cards and all the 7.5s and lower to PSA to see what they all get.
Would be a great idea if PSA wouldnt charge 150 a card.
@@EasternEGG39 yeah that’s the problem. Would make for a great video though.
@@RichieWilliams97 definitely so
@@EasternEGG39 if these grading companies feel that they need to continue to charge so much, they have be held accountable for inconsistencies. Those types of vids from guys like Rev are great exposure for that.
@@EasternEGG39 PSA is down to 50$ (with the membership) but I’d still hold off
You'd probably have to hold a special light up through the card, and I wonder then if something would pop up. Could be a printing error honestly, extra ink got dripped onto the edge of the card, and with a light held up through it looks funny. They probably have to do that, because some people might take a card that has some whitening on it, and add color to hide the whitening for the grade.
No bill doesn't know how to grade cards
Yo bill had a nap in the middle of his jod lol 😂 😂
The 8.5 graded Pikachu promo the one with the swirl but I love all the pikachu's and I am a very big Pikachu
Definitely think you have a good shot at a black label with 100 cards and the first one being a 9.5 Also like to add i love watching your videos, honestly nothing against Leonhart who i also watch but your videos are just a tone more fun to watch. Even remember watching a few live opening streams a few years ago when i had the time. If it wasn't for you and Leonhart i wouldn't have started collecting myself
I know right
We have some cards that were pulled or purchased and looking at them we thought we might have a good chance at a Beckett 10 (Under light and magnifying glass, even measuring the centring on the cards). After seeing this we will definitely not be sending and will stick to PSA. It just makes NO sense if we wanted to sell the cards later on and make some income from it.
7:12 I have no clue what’s wrong with that card lol
i really think your going to get a black labeled card but if not it was a good try
Grading like this is why I’ve chosen to keep everything in binders now. I’m tired of the grading companies giving ridiculous grades.
you will always feel like your cards are worth more and having them in a binder will kill them
I definitely think there will be a black label 10 in there. Those sleeved cases are eluding to something, I can feel it lol
Yea that they Are so bad condition that they did not want to grade it😂
I think your gonna get a perfect black labeled card for sure
New to Pokemon with 1 st edition can't get any help with getting submission sheet from psa
Im a little late but man you got me into pokemon i spend every night watching your videos. I was never into pokemon until you shed light on it for me The thrill of the hunt is awesome I think youll find a 10 im about to watch this video now!!! Thanks man you put alot of work in and i think we all agree youre the best at it!! Much love from detroit area!!
I still remember the feeling when I pulled a red Gyarados EX a few years back plus alot more and a rainbow it was a sick booster definitely enjoy watching your videos good luck and to many more
I've seen a PSA 10 in slightly off centered card, but i dont understand why your good cards didn't get a perfect 10 on Beckett, i wonder what tool they're using to grade cards. So strict 🥺
awesome all the pikachu's hope there is 1 blacklabel
okay so this isn’t a proven fact, but I’ve heard Beckett RARELY if ever gives 10s if you dont pay for subgrade nowadays. The reason i’ve heard is that you can’t actually see what they remove grades for, so to keep population of cards down they pretty much take it out on cards that people dont pay to subgrade Again this is all stuff ive heard not something I know for sure This last point is just my theory though, but lots of people who subgrade and get like an 8 on centering for example but the card is obviously not that off centered, can be like “ok beckett doesnt know what they’re doing”
I wish I could find the video again but it was a guy talking about Beckett grading and how cards where they graded centering an 8 literally had measurement perfect centering. As in the person sent in only cards where they had been measured from the outside to the inside and inside to outside. Front/back, Top/Bottom. That really makes this all seem extra sketch to me. And since there aren't any sub grades you have no clue what is making them grade pack fresh cards this way. And considering the amount not a single 10 and only one 9.5 I think? On top of the "evidence of added ink" claim makes me think this is some bullshit.
I totally believe you’ll get a black label! Gotta catch em all! Thanks for the cool videos
I’m thinking the promo cards just don’t grade quite as well anyways. They all have a slight bow due to the plastic.
Love your videos I would love to go to Beckett 10 one day
I hope you’ll find a black perfect 10, The swirl on the pikachu seems a fart to run faster, love it👍🏼
Bgs had fun Packing those cards 😂
Probably lol
Hey Roc :)
@@arcade2947 hey
Imagine they put silver on the label then you turned it over and got a black label 10
As a card grader myself i can explain why the grader did not grade those cards, its because the card board between the front and back (sides of the cards) are blue instead of white. This look a lot like someone used ink from a pen to alter the edges, however the grader made a mistake since this was not altered but this was a very common print error on modern cards 😬
Man. /; .be too oyyyb
No
Yeah you aren't a grader and just completely wrong
I definitely think you’re going to get a perfect black label hit ! It’s pokerev at the poke cave and anything is possible man ! Love your vids Keep up the great work !
I’m not entirely sure how difficult it is to get that type of grade but I’m WISHFUL! For you rev!! I think you’ll get it!!
I was thinking of grading my cards with becket but after this I probably won’t
Cards are cut. Sometimes some colour from the front gets onto the side of the cards, in this case, the yellow might be slightly visible if you look at that .5 of a millimeter thick side of the card. Often when people touch up cards with a pen or pencil or marker, it also leaks onto the side of the card, where is it supposed to be white. To be on the safe side, they'll just say it's touched up with colour then, even if it's fresh from a pack. You know that it is, but they don't, after all.
Then clearly they aren't that precise on their grading if they are making that big of errors on top of that assuming that those two cards are altered when there is absolutely no reason to believe that those two out of the 100 or so he sent in, would be touched up somehow.
Hey I’m new to your channel and love your content, super entertaining and informative. Honestly I was wanting to send cards to BGS because of the name and I love the aesthetic of their slabs. However after watching your video turned me off from wanting to send anything to them, the insanity of getting a 6.5 from a slightly off center card that was freshly pulled is unfair due to bills opinion. Anyways keep up with these entertaining videos every time!
I think you’ll get a black label! Edit - Wow, seeing this, Beckett being the way they are, they won’t be as popular of a choice. especially if the value is higher with psa of the same grade. Awesome vid Rev!
5:54 you can see the border on the card is not curved and it is meant to be.
Woah you always have the craziest graded card batches! Love watching these!
Rev, I actually have some insight for you here! Shining legends is infamous for having “white dots/speckles” on the back of the cards. This was a problem from the factory. I grade with Beckett a lot and they really came down on shining legends cards for this issue.
I was already in the process of sending my cards to Beckets. Now they go to PSA instead.
I could see the Pikachu with the color it’s at the very end of it.
I honestly don't think you'll get a black label because beckett has been tough with the grading 😪 but I'm excited to find out! Love the content 🙏
I think you do get a black label card I believe in you pokerev
I agree. Their grading system is every complex. Also cards won't sell for the price. Psa will always sell at a higher price.
@@aec103183 not true a black label card will always sell higher
That was honestly crazy, i have never seen this harsh of grading and I've bought from tons of grading companies. This was brutal but informative to watch. Definitely gonna sway where i get my cards graded. Thanks for the insight Rev!
Subgrades suck
First picachu was fine nothing ring but the second one had a little more white on the side
Bill was feeling very petty that day at work
Good luck finding that mysterious black label!! I remember that black label raichu you got 🔥
I have faith Rev, sending my energy to you for TWO perfect 10s out of the lot Edit: My faith and energy were apparently not enough to defeat Bill 😅
It’s easier obviously gonna get one cause you’re the best KZhead ever
On the second card that Was sleeve. Up the spot look lighter then the rest of the card
I am pretty sure you will be able yo get a black label, you have a keen eye when it comes to card conditions! Loving the content 😊
I feel like for the amount of money you pay to get cards graded, each service should be required to include that same little sheet that they include with the cards that they chose not to grade, but explains why they graded your card the way they did. To prove that they aren't just being lazy or giving out random grades. It just seems like there's no accountability this way 🤔🤷♂️ If I get cards graded I'm definitely sticking with PSA though
Trust me CGC is the best grading company
PSA is ridiculously expensive right now
People are complaining about random and lazy grades only because they're low. PSA does random and lazy grades, but people don't complain because they're high! From my experience, CGC grades most accurately.
@@worldcurrency1 that’s the problem even rev goes like: wow this actually got the 10?! I’m not complaining😃😃and then just does not acknowledge that it is the same type of lazy grade.
it feels good to have graded cards
I love ur vids keep up the great work I love ur vids
How can you have 100 pack fresh cards printed in 2019 and not get a single perfect card? I question whether it's a issue with the subjectivity of grading or just a quality control issue? Leaning to the grading company being the one trying to do everything it can to preserve the value of their higher grades. There should be no excuse for cards printed today to be pulling less then an 8~ right of out of the pack. The 6s and 7s are insane.
Hmm Yes! If you have a 100 I am guessing around 4 or 5 would be a perfect ten. I am not sure because I was never able to grade a card though:(
I wish. I've got a few cards I'd love to send in but I could never afford it 😔 goodluck mate!
@@brandondonnelly78 Same
Absolutely not, I’ve graded over 800 cards at BGS and I have got NO, ZERO perfect 10s.
My luck was very high the very first card I graded was a 10 the card was DCG graded raikou amazing rare.
@@shoe0 Nice!
So many graded cards that's wild
Maybe it's ink bleed or something on the ungraded ink added cards. Beckett goes for perfection and we all know every card isn't a 10 out of the pack. 🤷♂️
I think it will be tough because they’re really hard to get a perfect 10. But as always we wish you the best of luck!
Yes! I believe you will get a perfect rev, you have such a quality selection of cards and boxes you’ve opened I think you’ll get it. Let’s go!!! Thanks rev for all the content and your generosity 👍🏼
That was hard to watch… I had a lot of cards I was going to submit to Beckett that are 1st edition.. I may do PSA instead..
How can you forget 100 cards that you sent to beckett hahaha
Honestly Rev, with your insane luck, I think you can pull the black label. All we ask from Almighty Sinnoh is simply 1 perfect black label BGS 10! LETS GO GET IT!!! Edit: oh how wrong was I 😂
The messed up thing about the grading is that they intentionally do not give 10s just to control the population of 10s out there. Most of those 9.5s are 10000% 10s but they just give them a lower grade just because they can. Same thing with that shady non-grading scenario
I agree and the fact that somehow Logan was able to get a 10 on a 20 year old card that was cut out of another plastic is suspect. Almost like the company not only withholds 10s to cull the population... but maybe they take bribes too.
Also further proof Logan Paul's Charizard was not a perfect 10
Yesssssssss you will get a perfect black label :)
You know that 2nd card that you had, and it was a charizard, well, I have the same charizard
Rev i think there is a great chance that you get the black label ! I believe in you ! You singlehandedly got me back into the hobby and im sure others can say the same. You really got my son into collecting as well which is awesome🙏🏼
I love checking out slab returns! Great content again Rev!! I don’t have any graded cards so it’d be game changing for my collection 🙏🏼 😊 🔥
I think you will get a black label bgs 10😊
It was either Bill's first or last day at work when he graded these
I feel like there is a 50/50 chance. Good Luck Rev!
Hi Rev! Great video. Amazing work! I was emailed and I'm not sure what to do.
@@calvinwelser1219
Shut up
There’s gotta be at least one black label! I’m glad to see a BGS return, I honestly believe BGS has a better slab and overall value over PSA. They may become the top dog in grading soon.
Wow I was way off!