Jocko Podcast 420: Pushing It Until Things That Are Totally Crazy Become Possible. With Alex Honnold

2024 ж. 12 Қаң.
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ALEX HONNOLD is a professional adventure rock climber whose audacious free-solo ascents of America’s biggest cliffs have made him one of the most recognized and followed climbers in the world. A gifted but hard-working athlete, Alex “No Big Deal” Honnold is known as much for his humble, self-effacing attitude as he is for the dizzyingly tall cliffs he has climbed without a rope to protect him if he falls. Honnold has been profiled by 60 Minutes and the New York Times, featured on the cover of National Geographic, appeared in international television commercials and starred in numerous adventure films including the Emmy-nominated “Alone on the Wall.”
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  • The absolute peak of human athletic achievement was performed by Alex Honnold.

    @234i9@234i98 күн бұрын
  • Wow, gentlemen. 420 episodes. It would’ve taken me way longer to find you both if I hadn’t let KZhead run one day while I left to go grab some terrible food that was digging me into a 8 year long hole that I’ve been spending the better part of a year clawing out of. Almost 100 pounds down after 313 days of getting up when the night becomes morning and getting after it. Thanks for sharing your accumulated knowledge and philosophies of yourselves and the guests you have on. I hope this podcast never stops.

    @WaveformWizard@WaveformWizard4 ай бұрын
    • Great to hear you have garnished some inspiration to go GET some !!! Keep up the great work mate As I say to my kids daily Effort equals results I tell my kids about schooling I don’t give a single fuck about their grades . What I DO care about is the effort grade which is 1-5 5 being the most effort For the fist time in 7 years of primary school for grades k-6 my eldest boy the year before high school achieved grade 5 for effort in all subjects which was an absolute dream for him AND I. His marks result was a C average but the effort for the year was exceptional On the other hand my youngest in year 4 received mainly 2s for effort and D for all subjects showing clearly effort DOES in fact matter So my eldest bounced into high school with some confidence and belief in himself for the first time in his life and my youngest learning a valuable lesson For you , don’t look at the results , they WILL come . Look at effort and only you will know the truth in how much you have been putting in Sorry for the long ramble but it took a while to make my pint with an example Just try your best I say. Give it everything you can I tell my boys. If there is no effort expect me to be pissed Its preparation for life I wish iou the best of luck , or is it luck ? Nope. Its effort and results that are earned . No luck I wish you the best if effort Fucking GET SOME, FIND some. Keep us posted. Take care J

      @Johnhealey-@Johnhealey-2 ай бұрын
  • Alex- “Why does the Navy want an English major blowing things up!” 😂 classic!

    @adamgray7721@adamgray77214 ай бұрын
    • He is indeed unintentionally funny, which adds to his appeal. 😂

      @chefjonsf@chefjonsf4 ай бұрын
    • Maybe the Navy was trying to suggest something about the duality of man. The Jungian thing. Giving real life Captain America an English major😂

      @angelbob77@angelbob776 күн бұрын
  • I went to Yosemite last year and climbed one pitch on the bottom of El Cap...looking up and imagining Alex climbing it with no rope is just...no words to explain. I think this is the number 1 most amazing physical feat of any one human ever.

    @MotoJitsu@MotoJitsu4 ай бұрын
    • makes me sweat just thinking about it

      @tomaseriksson5430@tomaseriksson54304 ай бұрын
    • @@tomaseriksson5430 Same bro it's insane

      @arunmoses2197@arunmoses21974 ай бұрын
    • Maybe not physical but for sure mental. Yeah, crazy

      @NemohHoes@NemohHoes2 ай бұрын
    • I scrambled up that first step on the nose and got so ridiculously overwhelmed just looking up. I always thought maybe I'd want to climb it until then. It's outrageous.

      @thehospicemurse5924@thehospicemurse5924Ай бұрын
    • @@NemohHoes bro there is a v7 boulder problem at 2000 feet. Physically not even 15% can do a v7 in a gym with 6 months of training. Its like running a marathon, and having to do a sprint in between, where a single mistake and someone shoots you in the head

      @linkinlinkinlinkin654@linkinlinkinlinkin65421 күн бұрын
  • Alex free soloing the El Capitan is the greatest human athletic feat of all time! What this man has accomplished is literally unbelievable and mind-boggling!!

    @Manojshankaraj@Manojshankaraj4 ай бұрын
    • Jimmy Chin described it as a world class athlete competing for a gold medal, but if you don’t achieve the gold medal you’re dead. Seriously an awesome feat.

      @jalexb503@jalexb5035 күн бұрын
  • I’m a truck driver and I greatly appreciate these podcasts, well worth listening to while on the road

    @Hypershiftmediajake@Hypershiftmediajake4 ай бұрын
    • I appreciate you bro

      @tydupont8084@tydupont80848 күн бұрын
  • It seems to me that his process is: 1) Being haunted by a relentless inner drive. 2) Needing to get it perfect. 3) Humility and never thinking you're good enough, or have arrived. 4) Extreme attention to detail. 5) Logical, consistent, fully focused, grinding practice and iterations, again and again. And again. 6) Full immersion. 7) Finding motivation to keep pushing forward. 8) Literally putting yourself on death ground (after you are ready and trained). 9) A deep level of integrity. 10) An obligation to do what you can do better than others / a competitive drive.

    @IArkProject@IArkProject2 ай бұрын
  • Alex knows what he's done. He applies logic and reasoning before emotion to his climbs. He frankly operates on a different plane yet walks among us, it is truly something to marvel and wonder at.

    @ap8riot931@ap8riot931Ай бұрын
  • 420! I’m smoking up for this one folks. Let’s gooo!

    @howardhavardramberg7160@howardhavardramberg71604 ай бұрын
    • cheater lol, its only january 14th

      @night_watch720@night_watch7204 ай бұрын
    • @@night_watch720 😂😂

      @nikecrsh254@nikecrsh2544 ай бұрын
  • Akex raised the bar insanely high. I Started climbing rock & Ice 30 years ago. It was the only activity I'd ever found that shut off the noise and completely centered my spirit. Did a bit of soloing, several grades below my roped climbing level. Even so, it's an entirely different animal. It definitely has an addictive quality. I've been lucky enough to have experienced a wide variety of somewhat edgey activities. I think climbing has given me the best and most useful life lessons. I'm forever grateful to my best friend, teacher, and climbing partner for opening that door. He's passed now. But always close.

    @icescrew1@icescrew14 ай бұрын
  • Alex DOES have a physiological advantage. When they did an fMRI on him, they found his brain doesn't react to stress, threats, etc normally. The doctor said: “That kid's amygdala isn't firing.” It's part of how he can remain so calm free soloing.

    @BrianS-ny9yd@BrianS-ny9yd13 күн бұрын
    • kzhead.info/sun/p6iLadCFe4J3Zmg/bejne.htmlfeature=shared

      @BrianS-ny9yd@BrianS-ny9yd13 күн бұрын
  • Jocko if you see this, you nailed this interview. I’ve been a climber for twenty years and I HATE listening to people who don’t climb interview climbers, especially honnold. You managed to make this a fabulous interview despite being a relative laymen!

    @jwollheim@jwollheim3 ай бұрын
    • Agree, he did it well enough for sure.

      @234i9@234i98 күн бұрын
    • I think apart of it is because a lot of interviewers I've seen can't get over the hump of understanding why Alex would free solo and risk his life to climb. Whereas Jocko as a Navy Seal completely understands that and has probably been in so many of those same life or death situations where a single wrong decision could mean your family will never see you again. Jumping out planes, running into gun fights, seeing other Seals die in combat, etc. That mutual understanding of knowing your job and what you do and love is dangerous but you still go back and do it helps them relate on a deeper level than any casual interviewer whose biggest risk they took that day was wearing a burgundy suit instead of a blue one or some shit.

      @angelbob77@angelbob776 күн бұрын
    • Gotta give Jocko credit tho. He does a great job relating to his guests and in asking good questions.

      @angelbob77@angelbob776 күн бұрын
  • Did Jocko say 420....GOOD.

    @Thizlamic@Thizlamic4 ай бұрын
    • could you imagine the new Jocko on weed

      @night_watch720@night_watch7204 ай бұрын
    • Every intelligent naval officer knows we must accept marijuana to bolster our forces.

      @daveharringbone8512@daveharringbone85124 ай бұрын
  • The two men solely responsible for my personal growth as a human. I cannot thank you enough. Echo too

    @rustyolgun@rustyolgun2 ай бұрын
  • Alex is a true GOAT and the master of his craft.

    @acidtrungpa4760@acidtrungpa47604 ай бұрын
    • Agreed.

      @night_watch720@night_watch7204 ай бұрын
    • The Sky is Blue and has no clouds. Well said Cap'Tin Head Obvious.

      @jt.8144@jt.81444 ай бұрын
    • free soloing el cap is absolutely out of this world,

      @rfcdgaf@rfcdgaf4 ай бұрын
    • what got your panties in a bunch?@@jt.8144

      @night_watch720@night_watch7204 ай бұрын
  • This individual is an amazing human with an unbreakable will.

    @danielowen5889@danielowen58894 ай бұрын
    • If he wasnt a climber, he'd be a mathmatician, i'm sure of it.

      @night_watch720@night_watch7204 ай бұрын
  • alright, 420 spark up.

    @doughboybellmore2347@doughboybellmore23474 ай бұрын
  • With his grip strength, Alex is probably one of the only people who can out-handshake Jocko.

    @gijoey5912@gijoey591214 күн бұрын
    • I met him and shook his hand, expecting it to feel like sandpaper wrapped around a brick. Nope, regular hand.

      @BrianS-ny9yd@BrianS-ny9yd13 күн бұрын
  • This is like a dream come true. I love Jocko podcast and i love Alex Honnold. Been following both for years now. I'm studying and i'll have this as company in the background. Thank you.

    @WeightedCali@WeightedCali4 ай бұрын
  • I’ve never seen Jocko so animated before. Pretty cool

    @MD-jf1ml@MD-jf1ml4 ай бұрын
  • I was very passionate about rock climbing for about 30 years, did a lot of things and my driving force with climbing was to carry less and less weight to do the objective. Leave the gear and the partner behind and basically run. Its a powerful feeling of going fast and not being fearful, the exact opposite, the feeling of moving past a crux like it was nothing, of having that inner reward that you did do your best is such a good feeling. Takes many years of doing the climbing thing to get to that point. I do like how Honnold did document the monk life and dedication to achieve his record. Its not casual at all. Even to experienced climbers, that feat of climbing Freerider is insane. No one is lining up to repeat it. Its so "out there". Free soloing hard routes has became mute after that in the climbing world. He pinned the bar with that one. No one needs to push it any further, the point has been made, anything more difficult is death.

    @tomasr64@tomasr644 ай бұрын
    • And yet, so little is said about Alain Robert, whom even Alex admires.

      @shawneetree1440@shawneetree14404 ай бұрын
  • He has great comedic timing. Very funny guy.

    @JiuJitsAZ@JiuJitsAZ4 ай бұрын
  • Been following Alex for atleast a decade. He's a savage ❤

    @tekneek911@tekneek9114 ай бұрын
  • You can’t do family activities if you don’t know how to rappel, legend

    @Raydeas@Raydeas20 күн бұрын
  • EPISODE 420 !!! 💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚💚

    @cjapao8058@cjapao80584 ай бұрын
  • 1:28:50 It's the same with parkour! 14 years of parkour and almost no injuries even though we stare death in the face almost daily!

    @AntonAdelson@AntonAdelson2 минут бұрын
  • I've watched Alex free climb, in those movies, and ts unblievable. Anyone that hasnt seen it, it will blow your mind...Crazy skills

    @night_watch720@night_watch7204 ай бұрын
  • BY FAR the best Honnold's interview I've ssen. Amazing as always

    @albertoduqe@albertoduqe3 ай бұрын
  • Two legends of their craft. Again. Incredible.

    @tdwl4373@tdwl43734 ай бұрын
  • Alex is like, the polar opposite of Jocko. Jocko is like, "Wake up at 0400! Make no excuses! Own the day!". Alex is like, "Wake up at noonish. Put on some slippers. Go see what looks fun or interesting to do and give it a shot. Unless you really suck at it... give it another shot if you fail."

    @MichaelGalt@MichaelGalt4 ай бұрын
    • Not trying to comment snipe you, your point is pretty funny because Alex is such an autist and chill guy that he may come across as very undisciplined, but the dude trains all day. He finished free soloing El Cap, in roughly 4 hours, something completely inconceivable and world record breaking, before most people are awake, then returned to his van and conducted his daily exercise routine on his hang board like it was a typical Tuesday. Dude is a disciplined monster, though he certainly is low-key about it.

      @Johnny_Cash_Flow@Johnny_Cash_Flow4 ай бұрын
    • @Johnny_Cash_Flow Not saying Alex isn't disciplined, just that his overall approach is diametrically different. He isn't even remotely organized or strict in his approach to anything. I mean, for real, the dude forgot his chalk when he was filming one of his hardest free-solos ever... do you think Jocko would forget his chalk? Jocko probably has a checklist he goes over after waking up, a different one before he leaves the house, and a different one before he goes to sleep. Like, Alex's whole discussion of "downstream" parenting. He has likely very similar goals for his children as Jocko, but a completely different way of going about it. Alex is more, very persistent, very dedicated, 0 fear, endless optimism and creativity. Jocko is relentlessly disciplined.

      @MichaelGalt@MichaelGalt4 ай бұрын
    • @@MichaelGalt LOL fair, yeah, definitely different approaches to the same problem.

      @Johnny_Cash_Flow@Johnny_Cash_Flow4 ай бұрын
    • ​@MichaelGalt then again, for important stuff Alex is insanely organized and prepared. He memorizes every single hand and foot move for an entire 3000 feet climb and executes them perfectly. He trains in a super organized and meticulous manner.

      @234i9@234i98 күн бұрын
  • Imagine Alex Honold buying life insurance for his family in case he passes. "You did WHAAAAaaaaaAAAAAaaaaaat?" -insurance agent

    @adammm46473@adammm464733 ай бұрын
  • Kudos to this group for having Alex Hannold on. Slowly become my favorite podcast ‘of all time’ outside of casting the best advice, in English (hint, hint), in the world!

    @ericendreszl9855@ericendreszl98554 ай бұрын
  • Amazing to here and see very powerful discussion.

    @johnnystanley4469@johnnystanley44694 ай бұрын
  • I like how jockos hypes him up, and alex just pushes it back down, lol

    @nelsonkingman8516@nelsonkingman85162 ай бұрын
  • *Happy 420 everyone!*

    @GalactusOG@GalactusOG4 ай бұрын
  • Thank you.

    @camron1501@camron15014 ай бұрын
  • Been listening to the podcast for years, and have also been a huge fan of Alex honnold. Went to a climbing gym today and tried out bouldering for the first time. To my surprise I opened youtube and found this podcast!

    @christianfrome5437@christianfrome54374 ай бұрын
    • You’ll fall in love with it. I started almost 2 years ago and it’s been amazing

      @Jonez5@Jonez54 ай бұрын
    • Keep going bro, it's 👍

      @234i9@234i98 күн бұрын
  • Thanks for all the awesome content. 420 💨✌️😉

    @BlueWaterSTAX@BlueWaterSTAX4 ай бұрын
  • Man there are so many good lessons to be heard in this podcast with both Jocko and Alex. Great meeting guys well done

    @Po3try27@Po3try27Ай бұрын
  • Love these podcast episodes and the other content, Jocko and Echo! Keep up the fantastic work. Also, well done to you and Pete and the team at Jocko Fuel and Origin! Love the products!

    @crystalbuck6525@crystalbuck65254 ай бұрын
  • Great episode and guest!! GET SOME!!

    @kylehamburg244@kylehamburg2444 ай бұрын
  • Awesome podcast. One of the best ones out there. Thanks guys

    @1toRespectReggae@1toRespectReggae4 ай бұрын
  • Thank you!

    @Montanaj419@Montanaj4193 ай бұрын
  • Thoroughly enjoyed the podcast as per usual thank you 🙏🇺🇸🇬🇧🇺🇸🇬🇧🪖

    @user-yb9sm5jp5u@user-yb9sm5jp5u4 ай бұрын
  • Jocko is the perfect person to do this interview! He has enough climbing experience to relate to Alex, but still has the perspective of a non-climber.

    @lesteve3@lesteve33 ай бұрын
  • When Jocko reads this it sounds like a battle story not a climbing story. 😂

    @joerossa1112@joerossa11128 күн бұрын
  • Awesome interview. Always on point with Jocko and Echo Charles. It's great to see how calm and still Alex is. Any mountain shop provides a lot of interesting vibes, yet I don't see it with Alex.

    @45122@451224 ай бұрын
  • This is awesome!

    @deborahfisher423@deborahfisher4234 ай бұрын
  • Love you guys, bless.

    @MichaelJames707@MichaelJames7074 ай бұрын
  • 420!!! 🎉 Very cool that it’s with Alex Honnold

    @HzrdHaze@HzrdHaze19 күн бұрын
  • The height isn't what impresses me, I'm sure he almost never thinks about that because doesn't matter if you fall 50m or 500m - falling means certain death. What impresses me that in order not to fall when free soloing, it requires nothing short of perfection in his movement and grip. His first mistake has a good chance of being his last.

    @TheNavalAviator@TheNavalAviator4 ай бұрын
    • Try 1 move on a 5.13a(the grade Freerider is) & you’ll see how incredibly insane 3,000 feet is lol

      @MD-jf1ml@MD-jf1ml4 ай бұрын
  • Red Honnold’s book, and then saw the movie. Mind blowing. Amazing. Great discussion.

    @JohnPatrickWeiss@JohnPatrickWeiss3 ай бұрын
  • Absolutely insane combination of people this episode literally the episode I never knew I wanted

    @AngeloMartinez-jz5nt@AngeloMartinez-jz5ntАй бұрын
  • 53:47 I had to step away from this podcast for a while, and came back at this exact part. Caught me off guard, made me laugh. Someone please make a viral clip of Jocko’s voice saying these words.

    @internet_internet@internet_internet4 ай бұрын
  • 10:25 nope, even on my phone, it was very clear what is the scale 😅..i don't think i would be able to watch it in imax😅

    @AlexaOleksa@AlexaOleksa18 күн бұрын
  • I wonder if they have ever considered releasing the 'raw' (or should I say minimally edited) footage of Alex's full ascent of Freerider. It seems like the sort of thing at least rock climbers would be interested in watching. I mean the documentary movie is good, but I would personally find the full thing even more compelling.

    @ThompsonDB@ThompsonDB19 күн бұрын
  • Fear must be challenged. Not with naivety or ignorance. But with clear knowledge. With clear understanding of the danger and consequences. Only true courage can be gained from the truth. The real truth. The full truth. Then you can grow. Then you can change the world.

    @joryiansmith@joryiansmith4 ай бұрын
  • i love alex. low key alex

    @caterpillakilla@caterpillakilla2 ай бұрын
  • Alex!!! No wayyyy

    @JohnMarston1876@JohnMarston18764 ай бұрын
  • Spot on!👍🏻🇺🇸👍🏻👊🏻

    @arthurcitron9774@arthurcitron97744 ай бұрын
  • After watching this, I would love to see Jocko have Jack Johnson on!

    @gilvalladolid88@gilvalladolid884 ай бұрын
  • Great convo just flows

    @pazful@pazfulАй бұрын
  • awesome 🎉🎉🎉

    @HealthZo@HealthZo4 ай бұрын
  • Damn right always push the limits 1:03

    @davelane4055@davelane40554 ай бұрын
  • great pod

    @michaelk90@michaelk902 ай бұрын
  • dope episode

    @ScoopTheMighty@ScoopTheMighty4 ай бұрын
  • Go caving I've been in rooms that hold 7 story building within😂 get the best adrenaline rush from climbing crawling duck walks to alligator crawling 😊

    @wateringthefate3890@wateringthefate38904 ай бұрын
  • I just subscribed to warriorkid podcast. The hell i might learn something from that too :)

    @Rapfan965@Rapfan9654 ай бұрын
  • 🐑🔪🎙️💥 Listening to that powerful introductory excerpt, just imagine Jocko narrating sheep butchery. It'd be epic- turning a simple task into a thrilling drama…

    @5alasmashy@5alasmashy4 ай бұрын
  • 420 smoke the enemy

    @muckfoot-4093@muckfoot-40934 ай бұрын
  • All I wanna do is climb mountains and dig holes. I used to do this when I was a child

    @daveharringbone8512@daveharringbone85124 ай бұрын
  • I thought Eddie Bravo Eddie would've been the ep 420 guest...

    @BOBSMITHH@BOBSMITHH4 ай бұрын
  • I can't say i expected to see alex honnold on a podcast

    @rangoo8136@rangoo81364 ай бұрын
  • Crushed the loaf

    @wizedomseekeer6494@wizedomseekeer64943 ай бұрын
  • 420, cool....- Beavis

    @bgoldsm@bgoldsm4 ай бұрын
  • Yes, when Jocko was a boy, he was just a caveman who wanted to throw rocks and bang on things with sicks. Then as a teenager, he discovered hardcore punk rock music. His favorite band sounded like they were banging on things with rocks and sticks. The band's name? The Cro Mags.. Now you know ...the rest of the story.

    @theundergroundlairofthesqu9261@theundergroundlairofthesqu92613 ай бұрын
  • 420!!

    @veugeler72@veugeler724 ай бұрын
    • engagement:engagement .

      @veugeler72@veugeler724 ай бұрын
    • thats the longest intro ive heard this dude dooo ooo . .

      @veugeler72@veugeler724 ай бұрын
  • Jocko read that like a Jack Carr novel 😮

    @HourRomanticist@HourRomanticist21 күн бұрын
  • @Jgvhdx@Jgvhdx4 ай бұрын
  • I’ve been looking at your products online. Have you ever considered making cowboy boots that are reasonably priced? Feel like it would be a cool idea.

    @brendangear@brendangear4 ай бұрын
  • Damn it we won't ever see the 1.5 hours of conversation !

    @nekomancer4641@nekomancer464121 күн бұрын
  • Now get Tommy Caldwell on next.

    @christiankennedy9417@christiankennedy94174 ай бұрын
  • Alcatraz

    @willivonen3886@willivonen38864 ай бұрын
  • Jocko podcast needs to have Vern Unsworth and his team!

    @porter88030@porter880304 ай бұрын
  • Go look at any professional climber. They all have monster hands

    @bradwood556@bradwood5567 күн бұрын
  • Commander Willink is like a mentor to me. His 4:30 wake up call inspired me to get after it. I’m up at 3 am and going after it in the gym, at work and at home doing what I can to get fitter, wiser and more diligent everyday. Thanks for your talk and work Commander. I’ll always be in your audience and customer base.

    @DieHarder4ever@DieHarder4ever3 ай бұрын
  • 2:33:34 Damn, Jocko hands looks like a girl size comparing to these Alex "rock hooks"

    @acidtrungpa4760@acidtrungpa47604 ай бұрын
    • you like those big hands huh

      @night_watch720@night_watch7204 ай бұрын
  • From what I know, I see you are a man of war too, Jocko. I fought in Iraq, 2010

    @Going_dark-hz4qs@Going_dark-hz4qs4 ай бұрын
  • I was curious that what would be comments before listening, since its uploaded 1 hour ago and its 3 hours long

    @AminABbasi@AminABbasi4 ай бұрын
    • everytime and always

      @night_watch720@night_watch7204 ай бұрын
  • 420 69!!!

    @daveharringbone8512@daveharringbone85124 ай бұрын
  • Great Interview!

    @DanicaPatrick@DanicaPatrick4 ай бұрын
  • this dude jujitsu all the whole damn mountainous cliffs

    @johnjackson4572@johnjackson45724 ай бұрын
  • Jocko looking lean

    @theoptimistictraveler3558@theoptimistictraveler35584 ай бұрын
  • 💪🏻💯✝️

    @DudeZack@DudeZack4 ай бұрын
  • Light Up Your Kannehbossom ( fancy word for Cannabis)

    @JSMI@JSMI4 ай бұрын
  • Climbed with a buddy in h.s. He was a good bit heavier and less athletic (I was running 5-15mi a day and he probably couldn’t run around the block) he had a car and could go to the gym way more often than me. He surpassed my natural abilities so fast with pure technique it was ridiculous! Technique is everything in climbing!

    @natec599@natec5993 ай бұрын
  • Gonna get high as fuck this episode

    @jeffd1337@jeffd13374 ай бұрын
  • First 🙌🙌

    @muhddn8383@muhddn83834 ай бұрын
    • nah, i was frst but im shadowbanned

      @night_watch720@night_watch7204 ай бұрын
  • 420

    @evanweeks8492@evanweeks84924 ай бұрын
  • The golden rule for two-year-olds 😂😂😂😂

    @Our_Patterns@Our_PatternsАй бұрын
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