17th century wheel lock pistols in action - accuracy & ballistics
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That's something I was waiting so much. Firing the brace of 17th century wheel lock pistols, faithful reproduction made in Poland. Patched round balls, paper cartridges and lead slugs in action.
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It is in fact my favorite gun channel on KZhead in beautiful, bright Hunglish language.
Yes! A scientific professional study.
This is not Paul Harrell.
What about Gun Jesus ?,
I ám from Hungary too
These Polish reproduction wheel locks are beautiful and very high quality.
They look even sturdier than 17c originals. I saw a lot of Suhl-made mass-produced wheel-locks that had weaker trigger guards and flimsy ramrod rings.
What's the price for these polish reproductions?
Where can I get a pair
Finally some wheel locks in action. That's the most beautiful and sophisticated ignition mechanism ever invented. I'd love to see more matchlocks too.
It is elegant but very complicated.
Even though it is not Christmas, a 22 minutes video of a dual Wheelock pistol is seriously a great treat. Thank you Capandball. :) Thanks for the likes, I have never had a comment that has more than 10 likes -_-
Fascinating. This sort of testing is enormously valuable to let us know how such weapons were actually used and what they could actually do. In context with historical sources, they give a degree of clarity that is simply not possible without this kind of testing,
Got to love experimental archeology!
Nerd
Yes and no. Unless produced with period tools then modern machining, bullets and gunpowder would be expected to radically increase accuracy beyond that achievable by period pieces. That said it's definitely worth doing and gives insights pure reading doesn't provide
@@nath9091 That's a very valid point!
@@Gigachadly So?
"Let's fire the school bus into the gelatin" is the funniest thing I've heard in a while. Great video as always!
That's a beautiful pair of pistols. Consider me jealous.
right? I bet he totally did not sit the entire evening in front of his TV with both pistols in hand for two weeks straight after he got them haha
@@peteraugust5295 :) Let me have a pic please!
You know he did. Stroking them.
Those slugs were the literal definition of "If it works well enough, it works" Fascinating video, always appreciative of the educational content this channel provides.
Straight stylin' with the dual wielding in the intro. Wheellocks are freaking beautiful.
Didn't they survive as heavily ornate hunting weapons for a while after the flintlocks where introduced? I understand it that it's main drowback was that they where more complicated and expensive. As such they never really took of as a weapon for mass armies of foot soldiers that mostly went from fuse lock to flint lock due to this.
Capandball: "Everybody had to have at least one firearm" Ottoman Akinji and Russian Baskirs: 😔🏹
hmm if its a matter of bows vs muskets id say the bows are no worse of. Muskets are easier to train large numbers to use buut if trained archers go against muskets itd be a blood bath all round. Of course that's assuming tha tthe guys with bows dont run away due to the BANG :P
@@sabo55 There's a very funny account of a French general(Baron de Marbot) who was fighting the Russians at the Battle of Leipzig(1813), and chastised their Bashkirs who principally fought with bows because they weren't well trained to shoot in an organized fashion which lead to the Bashkirs loosing arcing volleys which were inaccurate and lacking in power, and he described them as, "In fact the Baskirs, having no other arms, are undoubtedly the world’s least dangerous troops." Ironically this French general was wounded in the leg by a Bashkir arrow.
@@sabo55 the bows could shoot faster but the lead balls did much more damage if they hit anywhere.
@@sabo55 I live in a region where 5% of the population is Bashkir. The city museum presents composite Bashkir bows, very complex in technology. The Bashkir cavalry used them until the beginning of the nineteenth century. The range and accuracy are not worse than smooth-bore rifles, the rate of fire is very high. They used their bows to shoot from the saddle and presented a very big problem for the rifle-armed infantry. During the movement of Napoleon's army to Moscow and the subsequent flight of its remnants back to Europe, Bashkir horse archers made constant night raids on the French camps. Night, surprise attack and retreat are what they have always loved. But these people learned horseback riding and archery from early childhood and all their lives, this is a way of life.
@@colbunkmust He was lucky that, according to their custom, they did not store the arrowhead that had wounded him in the decaying corpse of the horse.
Given the technology at the time I'd say these were adequately accurate given the intended use and range of these. I'm impressed!
This is my absolute favorite Magyar gun channel.
The fellow that built those pistols should be very proud of his work. Craftsmanship is not appreciated much anymore. But, I recognize it when I see it…and I acknowledge it.
Thank you so much for such an educational presentation. The testing was of a level few other firearm channels have. The introduction of the hammered slug was interesting it would have been nice to see some examples that had been retrieved from one of the battlefields you mentioned. Please keep up the good work, we in America should take a lesson from your reverence of historical firearms.
Stay tuned for more!
@@capandball Maybe you could try to take a look at a Russian Berdan rifle?
What a beautiful brace of pistols! Your videos have inspired me to finally get into blackpowder shooting!
That brace is exquisite! Absolutely gorgeous. I have never seen a wheel lock fired before and was fascinated by the slow motion footage.
This just proves that contrary to popular belief, smoothbore muskets and pistols were accurate to an extant and not just wild inaccurate weapons
Capnball is the only channel I get to see things like this. Thank you.
The grace of that brace!! Beautiful pistols.
Love your channel man it’s made me pursue history as an educational interest! I have used your research in college papers never had a problem
One of the most consistent quality gun videos on the net to be honest.
Those shots were more accurate than what I thought you’d get from an old design
What magnificent brace of pistols. My congratulations to the gunsmith... and you!
I have been a muzzle loader since 1979. This was the most fascinating video I have ever watched on the subject. The pistols are gorgeous, accurate, and versatile. It was amazing to me how accurate the paper cartridge tied on to the sprue was. I thought it would tumble. It would have been extra deadly because it left the sprue and some paper in the wound. I wonder if the paper acted as a stabilizer like the fletching on an arrow or bolt to keep the ball+sprue from tumbling @25 m? I also love your scrimshawed deer tine powder flasks. Did you make them?
Dear Robert, thanks for the good words, yes I made both horns.
@@capandballHello ! I don't understand English very well. Please tell me, do you sell these reproductions of flintlock pistols? What is the price in dollars?
I like your channel because you have a very clear accent, with my English I understand 90% of your words in any video.
This is the first time I have seen a wheel-lock firing. It was a much better system than I thought. Thank you for the video.
What a beautiful brace of pistols!
I really appreciate the close-up shots here and the level of detail. Beautiful guns and hope you find a reason to update us again with the wheel lock
How awesome it must be to have this gem of a guy as your teacher lol
Those wheellocks are truly works of art. Fantastic video as always.
The most elegant pistol I have ever seen Formidable yet beautiful and quite frankly a masterpiece 🙂 greetings from Texas
( formidable for the people being shot )
that looks like it would be extremely satisfying to shoot. Just closing the little gate on top of the priming powder looked satisfying.
Its rare that wheel lock pistol covered. the pistols lovely and I must say its quite a fashion for army to have one back in the day
Those are a beautiful brace of pistols.
Absolutely gorgeous design on these pistols, especially with the little Fleur De Lis-shaped release for the priming pan cover. I'll gladly admit I like AR's and AK's as much as the next guy, but nothing compares to the beauty of flintlock/wheellock antiques and the artistic level of craftsmanship that went into making these weapons. Especially when you consider the fact that these firearms were born from a pre-industrial society. No conveyor belts, no robots on an assembly line. These were all made by human hands, slowly and painstakingly, to the precision that was needed both for the weapon to be safe and to function adequately. And that's to say nothing of the ingenuity it took to come up with these ignition designs in the first place.
Glorious reproductions; your friend is a gunsmith of excellence and artistry.
Excellent presentation! I had no clear idea before today how the wheel lock functioned. Another way to form (rather than pour) a correct sized slug is to drive a larger sized ball through a section of barrel of the the correct caliber for the pistol or musket/rifle. Obviously, this works best for a ball only slightly bigger than the intended caliber, but I found it useful on occasion when I did not have the correct mold.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video for us Capandball
Yes it is my favorite channel, the wide range of variety keeps bringing me back. But I have to say the early colt videos are very enjoyable to watch again and again
Man, I wish there was high speed footage of the sprue-ball and slugs. I bet the sprue-balls spun like mad going towards their target.
Stay tuned!
@@capandball Oho! Now I'm excited!
I'm very fond of your channel. This video takes it to a whole new level. Well done.
Excellent video, thank you for the work you put into making and editing all the videos on your channel.
Lovely vid, i am very suprised at how hard those pistols seem to hit.. i can easily imagine them emptying saddles in a melee!
Indeed , for that matter , should do respectfully well on the enemy Horse ! Later Flint and Percussion locks were less expensive to manufacture , and simplier to maintain , but as far as power and accuracy , they would compare favorably throughout the remainder of the Single Shot Pistol Era for another 200 or so years .
Oh we've been waiting for this! I have to say the lapel microphone is working really well and the audio is great.
Science and historical research combined make for compelling viewing. The first group of 5 was most impressive, especially the two in essentially the same hole.
Beautiful guns..we forget how desperate fighting was back then.
Thank you so much for cover such unique firearms in great detail!
This channel is very well produced and presented. peaked my interest in historical firearms. Best wishes from Colombo, Sri Lanka.
Excellent video. I have made and shot English wheel lock pistols and have found them to also be accurate and powerful.
Many thanks for this video! Didn't know about the slugs usage for the short ranges, it has such a devastating effect!
Seriously point blank only though. Were as the others could be used up to 40 or 50 meters with good effect. I'll pass on the slug, the paper cartridge looked to be all around superior.
this looks a incredible fun hobby , handling all the processes
Love your channel. Not into guns anymore (bows are my fancy) but your love for them is nice to see and learning from someone passionate about what they are about is the best way to learn
Great video of a beautiful pair of wheel locks, such gems.
Interesting analysis. The lock mechanism on the pistols if that is correct terminology is stunningly well done. Over all the craftsmanship of each is fabulous. I found it interesting seeing the on the spot projectile manufacturing as well. I must say your 25 meter shots with tight fitting round ball showed they were capable of darn good accruacy.
I find it amazing how fast the ignition is.
Fascinating the results with the tied ball with sprue!
Very nice. Thank you for the historical information and accuracy.
Interesting and thank you for the excellent videos. 60 grains is double the charge I use on my Pietta Colt 1860 reproduction. Keep up the good work.
Capandball stated that the weight of a normal power charge is a third of the bullet weight. Actually, it works out closer to a quarter of the bullet weight. He stated the ball diameter was .530. Ergo: .530 round ball (without sprue) = 224 grains lead... 224 grains / 4 = 56 grains powder. Your 1860 Colt Army's bore is .44 caliber. .440 round ball = 128 grains lead... 128 grains / 4 = 32 grains powder. However, usually a larger ball is used in the 1860, up to .454" diameter. A .454 round ball = 141 grains lead... 141 grains / 4 = 35.25 grains powder. Note that it is common for 1860 shooters to use less powder (e.g. 20 grains) for improved accuracy.
@@DigitizedReflections yes , I heard him say all those things as well. My 1860 prefers a full charge of 30 grains with a 128 grain .440 round ball. 20 grains gives terrible accuracy in mine.
Beautiful pistols and beautifully informative video. Thank you
Great video, as always! Truly a professional job.
Simply amazing at every level.
I agree that one MUST shoot and use a gun to understand its history. I carry an 1851 repro on my desert walks and I now understand that weapon inside and out. For a rabbit gun there’s nothing better.
Excellent presentation as always.
I always loved the aesthetics of the wheel lock
Hunglish is so relaxing to listen to. Thanks.
Wonderfull video and gorgeous pistols.
Have you ever tested Silk in front of the Balistic Gel Block to see if Silk really stops foreign matter being dragged into the wound?
This will part of the experimental archaeology project I mentioned.
@@capandball - Great, looking forward to that one.
thanks. those are very beautiful pistols.
“Hung-lish”…. Keep it up sir lol the brace is absolutely beautiful. I want a pair
The Poles made great weaponry and beautifuly crafted !
I enjoy your work. Thank you for sharing.
Thank you sharing with us! Greetings from Germany!
Pretty damn accurate really. Excellent video on the wheel locks pistols. Those are a fine example too. Very very nice.
Amazing work
Yeah, winged hussars carried two that pistols in their holsters too, among any other weapons... I love your channel .
Excellent video, well done lots of information! Thank You
Excellent video, very complete! I wish that one day, be it in a decade or more, you'd collaborate with Ian McCollum on some project, even though the two of you are more complementary: he is less interested in muzzleloaders and you're less into XXth century stuff (except repros).... but who knows!
For flintlock pistols they actually have a fair reaction time from pull to punch . I use to have a 58 calibre muzzle loader Confederate Enfield , but alas I sold Her . You have rekindled my interest . I'm a professional shooter culling Razorbacks Ferrel dogs and Roos in Australia and mainly use 30-06 , 222 , 303 World War 1 model that seen action in France and Belgium plus 12 gague and a 22 for small stuff like Ferrel cat and rabbits down South . Thank you for rekindling my interest in all things black powder . PS you are one hell of a shot my friend . Cheers from Australia kindest Regards Dan 👍
Thank you. This is a very interesting video and very informative.
now those are some damn cool looking pistols and thus whole vid was super interesting
I've read the wheellock was a huge stepping stone in firearms that's often overlooked by the flintlock ignition. Gone was the smoldering fuse of the matchlock and for the first time people could carry a firearm concealed that was ready to be fired. It really changed the dynamics of conflict in any form. The slugs make me wonder if anyone thought of making a pointed tip like an arrow to help with aerodynamics or accidentally stumbled upon it. (You know people are always tinkering.) I couldn't imagine medicine used to dealing with slashes, cuts, and arrow wounds having to deal with the new technology-not to mention the debris carried in and channel cut by the bullet.
When you said slug. I was thinking of like a shotgun slug, conically shaped, or Minnie ball shaped projectile. I guess this was a way of mass produced and/ or field expedient way of producing projectiles with limited resources. I sure it would have worked in volley fire or CQB. I need to go back watch the previous cited sources or other videos. I bought a CVA .54 rifle and bullet mold out a pawn shop in Oklahoma 3 years ago. Haven't done anything with it yet. This could be my other hobby. I enjoy your videos for the quality of content. Thanks! 😍
Wow that is some incredibly shooting
Wow! Thank you for sharing these wonderful pistols! This videos is very well structured, and provides an excellent look into the efficacy of older firearms.
Very interesting about slugs. I've been learning more about 17th century ammo types like double-moulded bullets and oval ones, this method of crafting slugs is very cool
These hammered slugs were mainly misinterpreted in papers, so that's my contribution to the subject. :)
@@capandball Im very interested in pirates and I think the slugs would've been great in the close confines of a ship
Amazing content, thanks.
I LOVE these kind of videos!
Very nice video! Thank you.
It was because of this channel that I got into black powder shooting. I bought my firearm a few months ago (a New Model Army from Pietta) and love shooting it when I can.
Great choice!
I would love to see these projectiles tested on Paul Harrels meat target
Should be simple to extrapolate. Imagine a 20ga Foster style slug , download about 200 fps .
My after dinner treat. Viewed while enjoying crumb cake and espresso.
Those pistols are beautiful.
Imagine reload speeds accurately portrayed in AC Black Flag. You'd be reloading your pistols in a bush for a good five minutes.
Square bullets blew my mind!
Very interesting, as usual!
I know this type of gun but had never seen it shoot, it is much more efficient than the flintlock, but also probably given the complexity of the mechanism, much more expensive to manufacture, This may explain the more common use of flintlock.
I love wheelocks. Ritters rock! (oh, and that is some impressive accuracy with a smoothbore pistol!)
Hey, that is good shooting with wheel locks. Very impressive.
Very beautiful Pistols.....Thanks so very very much....Excellent fun video....From Kentucky...!
Excellent video Thankyou