The Best Victorinox Competition in 2024 (Can anything beat the GOAT?? )
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0:00 Overview
0:37 Honorable Mentions
1:41 Gerber Armbar
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4:23 MKM Malga 5
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13:31 Ruike M32
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23:08 Mossy Oak 12 in 1
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25:47 Roxon KS2E (Elite)
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31:14 Roundup
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Just have to say I really appreciate the work put into the description with chapters, time stamps, and links to products. So many don’t do that and make it more difficult to find specific gear. I appreciate it.
Thanks! For long videos it's the only way imo
This is the factor I appreciate the most, the attention to detail....👍
When my mom bought a house in 2006 i found a Victorinox Huntsman in a drawer of the old kitchen table. I was 6 years old and grew up using that knife in every scenario you could think of and I never had any issues with it. By now I have 3 different knifes for every occasion, a small one, my huntsman and a bigger Hunter XT. Just a week ago I sent my first one to the Victorinox HQ for some maintenance and new scales. Also just found out it is at least 33 years old since they discontinued the exact model in 1991, so the knife is at least 9 years older than me. These are hands down the best knifes anybody could ever want. I get that some people might want a Leatherman Tool or something similar as backup but for everyday carry you absolutely don´t need anything more than a plain old and simple Victorinox.
Thanks for the story!
Do you have a Huntsman without hook? I have one Huntsman without hook, with special Swiss Confederation 700th universary scales from 1991. I got my first SAK on 2006 as aeroport security confiskated knife.
@@MSkachenite Mine also does not have a hook, It had a local tire companys name imprinted. Luckily my dad made me a leather necklace for the knife, otherwise i would have surely lost it as a kid. haha
Did you ever buy a real knife?
@@georgezimmerman3334 i have many knives, although most are fixed blades - what is a "real" knife ? lol
I had a Victorinox Rambler on my keychain for 4 years. "The best tool is the one you have on you." Boy, did I get good mileage from that. It was versatile, lightweight, and very discrete.
I carry a rambler every day. I love it!!
Love this. I just replaced my 17yr old rambler with a new rambler. Amazing what that little thing has done for me.
@GARBAGEMANBRAD i do not replace, i just send them in to victorinox, they repair or replace every tool and you get a like new knife.
What happened to it?
Sadly after carrying it for several years I lost my Rambler a year ago. Thinking about replacing it with the Mini Champ.
I carry a victorinox s557 with locking blade, phillips and flathead. The walnut scales look awesome. I broke one of the tools, sent it to Victorinox to repair and received a brand new s557 instead. That kind of service makes me loyal forever.
I been working in the trades my whole life. I've used a million multi tools. My favorite is the victorinox farmer or hiker combined with the 5-inch knipex cobra pliers. I have a ton of leathermans and they are great, but I feel like when I need a pair of pliers, I need a legit pair of pliers especially when turning bolts or to get a decent amount of leverage on something to bend or pull. I use the victorinox mostly for the flathead and phillips screwdrivers, saw and awl. Usually for poking or prying or to tighten or loosen a screw or the saw works great on wood, PVC, Hard rubber, ect. I have used the other tools on the victorinox farmer or hiker on occasion. The blades come in handy if I happen to forget my main pocket knife. I carry both tools in a leather slip that fit beautifully in my back pocket. To me it's been the ultimate multi tool combo and it's lighter and flatter in the pocket than most leathermans.
We need to do a plier/pocket knife combo video
@@maxlvledcYes!
I also rock the Farmer and the 150 mm Knipex Pliers Wrench as my EDC. I've tried many combos, this one works best for me. (Partly because we can't EDC locking knives here in the UK)
My choice is the Farmer X and a Knipex XS Cobra (100mm).
My wife said she didn't want a multitool with a bunch of tools on it she only wanted a good knife and good scissors. I bought her the ROXON you showed. She loves it!
The cybertool m from victorinox has to be my favorite.
The Victorinox SwissChamp is my all time favorite Swiss Army knife - mostly due to the nostalgia factor - my uncle brought back a Swiss Army knife when he visited the factory more than 45 years ago - I really don't recall which model or if it was a Wenger or Victorinox but the width of the tool and approximate number of implements felt very close to the Swiss Champ - that knife was "borrowed" from me by an acquaintance and I never saw it again. As and adult I own two and several other models - in all honesty I use the Tinkerer the most often out of my Swiss Army knifes - there's probably about a half dozen in various rooms in the house and in my vehicles...
I love the Vic Tinker series, I have all of them and even a couple of discontinued Tinker models. I also love the Vic Hunter Pro even though I think it could use a slight upgrade or a little modification.
The super tinker has my heart. It’s just classic utility. Amazing gists as well.
Absolutely! Any of the Tinker models are great for EDC, it's all a person really needs.
I’ve had a Champ for about 25 years. One scale broke (after a bad drop). I went to an official Victorinox shop in Germany and they gave me new scales for free right after hearing my story. I discarded the old ones and my Champ is like brand new. Amazing.
Its hard to beat a Swiss army knife. iv had Leatherman's and Gerbers. I'm currently carrying the Arc, but im always going back to the Victorinox Pioneer X.
Great video! The Spartan, Climber, and Compact are my go-to EDC Swiss Army knives.
I've bought five of the Mossy Oaks. Three were gifts, one was for myself, and the last is a spare. The hex bit holder and locking blade really sell it. I also think it has the best assortment of tools out of all the similar ones.
Very comprehensive! Thanks.
Thanks for this video. Have carried a Victorinox Tinker for over 25 years. Also have a Victorinox Adventurer in my go bag . Misplaced my knife was loooking to replace it with a Super Tinker (scissors are a plus with only 1extra layer) Also considering Fieldmaster and Farmer X. Got the Roxon and have used everything but can opener in the 3 days since it arrived. Heavier than Tinker but the other knives I was looking at would also have been heavier. Keep up great work.
I'm with you on the mossy oak. If victorinox came out with all locking implements damn boy. All time favorite is the tinker, then ranger, pioneer and basically all of them except the cybertool. Great video👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
great vid, loved the compare and contrast approach. I carry the Huntsmen all the time and I do have the Ranger grip in my grab-n-go bag as well. I have used my Huntsman for so many uses and let others use it as well. They all loved it. However you peaked my interest in the Roxon ks2 elite D2. Saved it on my amazon account and might go to it later. I think the only thing that "might' bother me is the bulk
Hey great video man! Ive wanted a Key-bar key organizer for a couple years now, i love the design and all the various tools you can get tor them. They just cost a bit too much, and i think they would still take up a big chunk of my pants pocket. I also really like the look of that Leatherman T4 Free, but youve given me food for thought. Appreciate it , thank you :)
Great review
Thanks!
the nextool E1 looks great. i love the bit driver and that it's compatible with the leatherman set. just ordered mine and can't wait to test it out. it's similar to your top pick but more modular. for DIYers, similar to the key bar concept of keys and tools in one package, i got the 1/2 leatherman wave clone and put the driver on the locking side and replaced the other tools with the 3 keys i need. so in the end i have a decent blade, and saw on the sides that lock, and a locking bit driver with flat and philips. i've carried it for a few years now daily and love it. you need to be handy to chop the keys down to nothing but the actual part that goes in the lock and drill holes.
keep it up, was a nice Vid for Vics
I mean, they are super hard to beat
Maxlvledc is definitely the best knife/edc reviewer there is. This is just my opinion, but when I want an honest review on stuff that does not break the bank, your channel is the best. Keep up the great work. I love how you care about your viewers' money. 👏👏👏
thanks, that is high praise.
@maxlvledc Well deserved! It is great to see youtubers care more about their subscribers than pleasing the companies they are reviewing. I can tell that you are honest and I certainly appreciate it. You do not have an agenda you are just answering the questions at hand. I respect that.
Great vid. I replaced my EDC Victorinox of 15+ years with the Roxon KS2 and bit kit around 6-8 months ago and haven't looked back. I only wish it came with a pen and mini LED option like the SAK Midnite Manager/Minichamp so I could get rid of my separate pen and keychain flashlight. (BTW all closed captions in this vid brought to you by Dom's hands. 🇮🇹😁👍)
Lols!! Hey I am half Italian! Sooooo 😅
@@maxlvledclol I'm Italian as well, so I understood everything your hands were saying.😄
Great video! I'm looking forward to what Roxon will put out in the next few years. They really seem to be putting in the effort to compete with Victorinox. As it happens, I got my latest Victorinox in the mail today. I did some research on the SAK Wiki, and found a discontinued but new Explorer Plus on eBay. It cost me more than a Roxon at $65, but I know I'll be carrying this for years. The Explorer Plus is the current Explorer model with Plus scales. Those are the scales on the Compact, and so they have the pin, pen, tweezers and toothpick all in the scales. Since it's an explorer, it has the inline Philips driver. You also get the corkscrew with the micro driver, and the larger Victorinox scissors. It's more weight in my pocket than my old Tinker, but it sure looks like an upgrade for the weight. I know enthusiasts aren't the biggest market for Victorinox, but I sure do wish they would make a line for us with G10 and upgraded steel. Even 14C28N would go a long way towards making the knife geek market happy. I have long thought of the 58 mm small knives they make as "minimum viable knives". The Classic SD in particular feels like the minimum you can throw in a pocket or purse to get the benefits of having scissors and a knife on you at all times.
i like the victorinox explorer special if they add wood saw its great
I bought the roxon ks2. And..... I love it. The knife is great, the scissors, amazing like there other multi tools, the deployment of the additional tools..is great..never had a tool where you could push a button and they pop out for easy access. The awl is incredibly sharp. Much sharper then any Leatherman I own. I use it to open.clam shell style packages with ease! Roxon is crushing right now and I would never have believed it if I didn't get one myself
Love this video! Personally, my current favorite Victorinox/Armbar/K2-format multitool is the NexTool 12 in 1. Cheap as hell, manufactured in China, but with a larger 3.11" blade and the right combination of tools I'm looking for to EDC. Currently $19 on Amazon, worth a gander.
Great video! You have got to get yourself a Fox Vulpis! It's excellent quality with great blade steel choices (M390 or N690). These remind me of the Victorinox Small Tinker (81mm, I think) but are closer in size to the 74mm Executive. They need to expand this product line to a larger format and more tools, but for those who like the small format (I do), my only gripes are the spring tension needs to be a bit higher, and I want a Phillips driver (3D, I hate 2D Phillips).
That was a great comparison of different brands. My very first Victorinox was the champ back in 1982 when I did my first camping, traveling trip from Canada through the USA down to the bottom of Mexico and back. I don't know whatever happened to that but the memory stayed with me over the years and a few years ago I decided to buy another champ. And then the addiction started. I have recovered now and I'm doing better. I keep Leatherman surge and the Swiss Army champ in my bag at all times. Those two tools give me a pretty decent range. It makes you appreciate how much precision they put into making these knives when you see the competition. The knife I bought in 1982 is exactly the same as it is today. Except I think I didn't have a little pin in there back then.
The Mossy Oak 12 in 1 is in my EDC tool pouch with the Knipex pliers. 4" cresent wrench, and the olight i3T EOS. It works everyday.
I totally agree with the KS2 Elite. I ordered one a month ago and it immediatly replaced my Victorinox i had for over 20 years. It is just really nice that every tool locks. By the way I am in Austria and it is totally fine for blades to be one-hand and locking here, so it is not illegal in the entire EU like you said. My favorite Victorinox would be the Swiss Champ if size is not an issue and the Manager because it even fits in a wallet and still has a great toolset for me.
Great comparison! Thanks for this… I was hoping to see a competitor to the Alox 1 or 2. If you happen to have any ideas let me know!
I really liked my T4…. But I still gave it away and went back to my Climber. I got the T4 for half price and it was definitely worth the price. The blade also got worked in really well and I could flip it open with one hand.
Could you please re-do the scissors series and test new materials like thick zipties?
Most would break..it's a terrible use of scissors in general
Great video--I've never seen anything on Victorinox quite like your "competition." However, I've never understood the obsession with scissors. I can't recall ever using them in the decades I've been carrying SAKs. If you keep one of your blades, like the secondary, extremely sharp it can do anything that scissors can (except maybe trimming your nails), including cutting paper, plus a whole lot more. But even the tiny pliers on some SAKs can pull, push, twist and crush. Those are essential handwork applications that you can't do with any other tool. And the large scissors on the Roxon KS2E could instead have been an even more substantial miniature pliers.
Hmm. A plier in that slot would be very interesting!!
I really do like victorinox knives and like them a lot. But having locking implements on the ROXON KS2 just makes so much superior and at the same price point is really nice. My problem with some of the Victorinox models is that they get to be to thick while the ROXON KS2 is the same thickness as my Victorinox Camper while still being slightly shorter and having a pocket clip. I really like the ROXON KS2 and will stay with me. I will still carry SAKs because they are just so good. My favorite is the Camper just because that was the one I was given, but think the Compact or the Super Tinker is the best.
8 years in europe (france) with my victorinox explorer and still the number one....Best quality/price ratio for 40 euros... Unbeatable
I had a brass boker mini tech tool I gave my dad - it had a knife, scissors, and that tool with a flathead and bottle opener and package opener - basically the same as the ruike. Fit and finish was excellent and 12c27 blade was way better than a 58mm victorinox blade. I think he still carries it all the time. they had some copper ones too and they were only about $25 at the time. Haven't checked again in a while though.
My favorites roxon ks2,leatherman free t4 and victorinox ranger👍
yeah man, the KS2E is such an incredible value. Roxon is cooking so hard rn, I can't wait to see what they'll continue to do. about the measurement markings: I really appreciate having them on my tools, even if they're as small as this. as a lifelong user of freedom units I find it hard to visualize centimeters, and it's helpful if I need to take a picture with a size reference. also, favorite Vic is the Classic SD because I've had them since I was a kid, but I think once I finally get ahold of a Jetsetter or Minichamp, that'll probably change. I do have an old Swisschamp that belonged to my grandpa, it's still perfectly usable but it's one of my most valuable possessions so I can't risk carrying and losing it 😂
I might have to pick that last one up. Ive carried the swiss champ for a while with zero issues what so ever. But i have been in a few situations where it would have been convenient to have a one hand opening blade
I carry one of my SAK collection EVERY SINGLE DAY, NO MATTER WHAT. My fav is my 91mm 5 layer Ranger, or my vintage 2 layer Executive. I love those two because they have excellent files, which i must have to maintain a couple fingernails that were damage by injury and never quite healed properly.
Cybertool S or M paired with a 125 Knipex as a "base edc". Then add in your favorite light, knife(s), pry, etc...
I really like the James brand Ellis and pocket it a lot but also love my saks especially my manager with micarta pen scales
Hello Sir, your questions are very simple to answer😁 nothing beats a real Vic since they bought Wenger. My favorites are 3 different ones for 3 different options: one for the key ring (ClassicSD) , one for my pocket (huntsman) and one for my edc bag (Ranger Grip/Wood 55, have both). If I have to choose between them, I would take the RangerGrip55 (Ex-Wenger) because of that big locking blade and the biggest saw you can find on a pocket folding knife. It’s not a silky, but hey… find another saw that works so great in this size and also carrying other tools with it. This knife sits perfekt in my hand, I can work hours and hours with it without having any problems. And here it comes to the issues I see with all the other ones you have shown . They all have harsh corners, I don‘t want to work longer than 5 minutes with them. The only knife i accept in my pocket besides a Vic is an Opinel with self made handle😊 yes I am a person, who likes wooden self made things😁greetings from Mercedes Benz town Stuttgart in south west Germany 🤗Judy
Skeletool is my preference always
I bought the ks2e and it's so smooth when opening the tools. It's just so good. The can opener isn't as good but it's good enough. Everything else is amazing tho.
Looks like I will be picking up a Roxon KS2E (Elite).
I am partial to the SAK Huntsman, and the Leatherman Juice XE6.
I have the officer suisse for 60yrs . I have never been disappointed in its functionality. I have been able to replace the pen , tooth pick and the tweeters. I will always look at the Victorinox for my knife.
The Victorinox Deluxe Tinker is my daily carry multitool. I use it daily at both of my jobs.
That M32 looks legit, definitely adding that one to the collection!
With Vic you have a huge choice to get (nearly) exactly what you need. If you can carry the locking blade, the 111mm knives are superb
All of those multitools look great. I would not be disappointed if I received any of them as a gift. I sometimes carry the Victorinox Trekker, but I usually carry just a knife.
I really like the Roxon M3. It’s smaller and cheaper than the ones you highlighted. It does not have the high end steel, but I’ve got many other blades. This one has tweezers, a really better toothpick (pointier than the Swiss army), and a hidden Phillips and flat head eye glass screw driver. Its main tool is another excellent scissor (folding from the middle) and it has a little blade, bottle/can opener/box cutter, Philips, and awl. Everything locks. And it’s $20. This one sits in my center console in my car. I’ve got a multitool and single use tools in my garage, car, and house for real jobs.
That said, when I was in Swizerland, I treated myself to a Victorinox Swiss Tool Spirit X with ratchet, bit an and leather case. Talk about a beautiful tool. It’s expensive and probably not as tough and as useful as my Charge Plus in titanium but I had to have one. It’s a work of art.
I have a medium Ruike. It is a solid beast.
After seeing this I did some searching and the Ruike LD51-B has everything I've been wanting in a multi-tool. I've been looking at the workchamp/hercules and wishing they had a 1-hand blade like my trekker. I'm pretty sold on this. My only hesitation is I have a weird brand loyalty compulsion. 😂 Lol
Please do a comparison with the Medford ASK! That would be great! Awesome content as always!
I'll never buy a Medford
I carry a knife with a locking blade clipped into my right pocket and a Victorinox Explorer on a keychain clip clipped into my left pocket. The keychain clip keeps the Explorer from diving to the bottom of my pocket with my keys and other miscellaneous hardware. I like the Explorer’s Phillips screwdriver and the magnifying glass which I use surprisingly often. Mine is also equipped with the mini screwdriver that fits into the corkscrew. The most used tool on my Explorer is the scissors. I also carry a pair of Crescent 4 1/2” mini pliers in a soft pouch.
The Sanrenmu 9019 should be mentioned. It’s a great Swiss Army type knife with the tools I need when out in the woods. The Sandvik steel is great, one handed blade deployment via thumb stud or flipper tab, the saw is amazing, and I use the rope cutter/guy hook when processing game.
I own and carry the mossy oak tool that you reviewed. I use the blade to cut bags of flour and open packages and cut cardboard. It’s sharp and very easy to use. The only disappointment I have is that the bits fall out of the driver on occasion.
Love the KS2 Elite! Does the Mossy Oak take the Wiha double bits, with or without a magnet?
Great vid! I've carried a Mini Champ and now Rambler for over 40 years. It's a family meme that I have to have it in my pocket. My one complaint is the poor steel for the blade. It dulls way too fast and sharpening wittles it away to nothing. I would pay double to triple if V would do a magna or S90V type blade.
The Ruike is probably the only SAK style multitool I would ever consider getting mainly for the tweezers.
I'm a huge fan of the Roxon M3
Favorite Victorinox on my wishlist is the farmer X. I have been carrying the Roxon KS2E for a couple months . Over all I find it comfortable to use . The blade is OK. But the scissors are the star of the show . I used the all on some wood and bent the tip. And the can opener bottle opener thingy is cheap and wish the would have just put a large flat (pry) instead. The driver is pretty good too. The saw is so short but pretty sharp. Overall I like it bit could do without that one tool. I have the Victorinox camper which I love the saw . And when I said I think the roxon is comfortable and then I use the Victorinox I feel like the swiss knife is so much more comfortable. But camper doesn't ha e the scissors. It is a choice for sure . I still have my Rambler on my keys and my 1998 wave on my hip . Just incase the roxon fails me . Haha
I've always found SAKs lacking; punch dagger Phillips, corkscrews and non-locking implements (twisting something without a lock is sub-optimal) and the blade being thin and good for slicing but not much else. And getting the implements out is a pain. The T4 might be expensive but everything works, everything locks, everything acts like it should (Phillips screwdrivers that actually drive) , opening,even one-handed, is easy (if you're struggling with the blade, instead of dismantling it and taking out a spring, just run a needle file over the pivot face to round it out, don't even have to take it apart) and the blade can slice, carve, gouge, anything you need. Oh and a pocket clip so it's not rattling around and I always know which orientation it's coming out. I'm not a leatherman fanboi, the shit they pack into the rest of their range is like SAK's offerings, either "who is this for?" or random "let's put a precision screwdriver in a massive pair of pliers, to utterly waste space". The T4 happens to have everything I need, in a safe and usable way, as an EDC for everywhere.
I'd just received the Mossy Oak from Ali Express Anniversary Sales. I am planning to replace my Swiss Tech because of the larger scissors since I am staying in urban area. Ali Express do has few lookalike Mossy Oak's with quite similar price range, namely Diacamping DL15 and Dakoyu. Another brand, Baihuabao, 9 in 1 selling at cheaper price..
Check out the Civivi Crit or Sendy. I think they'd be right up your alley!
That Mossy Oak 12-in-1 looks great. How's the quality? I can't help but wonder at that price point.
Ok got back from work and watched the video from front to end. So the issue with the KS2E and I bought it (and returned it) is that it felt like every tool on there locked differently. Some had the pivots that would lock it but others would lock in some other way. I recall there being 3 different ways to lock some of the tools and that got confusing. They should have just made it one lock that worked on any given tool that needed a lock.
Victorinox and leatherman are my favorite MT brands to collect 🤟
The large Victorinox shown at 20:30 shows the old slide-lock mechanism for the blade. They were discontinued years ago in favor of liner locks.
if we include S501U on here then the GHK12 should also be looked into. Incredibly similar to the Roxon (You can even use the Roxon swapping blades in it) but with 2 extra functions: A pair of locking 3d screwdriver tools in the bottom which form a square post for the incluided 1/4 inch adaptor/bit kit and the scissor and blade section can separate from one another. Currently have the combination pull-cutter can opener blade thingy from my phantom in and it works a treat.
I'll. Check it out
Great review. I think that when you look at the smaller multi tools (that really fits in your small jeans pocket) you have to address the toothpick and the twizzers, it’s so overlooked that I don’t get it. I’m using the toothpick pretty much on a daily basis (I have a few), every time after I eat and before I meet clients, I’m checking my teeth. The tweezers are also super useful and it’s annoying me and that all the other companies are simply ignoring it (accept maybe for Roxon that has both on some of their tools).
I think that the Victorinox Explorer is excellent, but I would love to have a Yeoman (discontinued and hard to find for a reasonable price). I have an older Wenger Swiss Sportsman, which is great, too! I dislike the handle shape, but it is hard to beat the tool, set on the Delemont S557 series. That locking blade, the wrench, in-line Phillips, and small slip joint pliers (a bit less robust than Victorinox style pliers on, say, a Deluxe Tinker but more useful)...I'd love to see that in a standard 91mm frame!
Super Tinker, although it is comparable in size to the Leatherman T4 if you don’t measure the size of the scales from edge to edge of the protruding tools/blades
I have a Victorinox Soldier from 1939. I could send it to them if anything is wrong with it, but it works absolutely fine. As far as multitools go I still think the Swisstool X is the most complete, well thought out and toughest out there, period.
I just did the mod to my Leatherman bond to add the rebar saw. It works great but the tools aren't smooth. I have a modded cyber tool L that I did and it's smooth but as far as a plier based multi tool I might give the flex a chance
Can the blade and scissors switch sides on the Mossy Oak? I like the idea of a one handed blade and an inline bit driver but I'm a lefty.
Was happy with my Roxon older generation knife until yesterday when I had to try and get a dog ball out of my drain. I opened the knife and started picking and prying on the ball to try and get it out. Well the locking mechanism for the blade would not stay locked and the blade kept folding in. Now I know that’s not what the knife is designed for, but the locking mechanism shouldn’t fail during such a simple task. I will say, I still like having the bigger scissors
Hmm, sounds like a flaw. Contact them to get replacement imo
Having hiked for 25 years in the wildest and most remote regions of Europe, I have only ever needed the first Victorinox Multitools while others were walking around with a lot of very impressive and not effective equipment and it has already happened to me that I have had to help others with huge survival knives. 🤣🤣
For me a tool needs a real use pair of pliers and screw driver bits. So for me, the only tool I carry is a Leatherman Skeletool. I have had EDC knives but the only one that keeps making it back to my pocket is the Skeletool
I think the prices for the different tools is very relevant and should be discussed along with the tools features.
That Ruike S31 is as close to a Vic's 84mm as it is to 58mm. So when comparing blade sizes, you could look to the 84mm blade just as easily. They are only 1mm different, and the 84mm blade is much larger and sturdier than the 58mm blade overall. Unfortunately, Victorinox hasnt offered scissors on the 84mm size for many years, claiming a broken machine. If scissors arent an issue, then an 84mm can be a great alternative to the larger 91mm. They are surprisingly more pocketable than the 91mm with little loss in tool functionality.
Have you taken a look or planning to take a look at the daicamping dl15 yet? I know you've mentioned the brand favorably before. The dl15 looks to be in line with these gerber armbar drive and LT Free T4 type tools. Must be pretty new as I haven't seen anyone review them yet.
I'll double check, but looks like DL15 is IDENTICAL to the mossy Oak tool basically.
My modded huntsman with Maize and Blue scales cannot be beaten 😏
It can by OSU most years . . .
@@neilwhitmer2671 get outta here with that red and silver alox junk 🤭
I wish I still had my huntsman. Lost 2 of them already. 😢 Making do with a tinker for now.
Nextools is the only company I can think of that make budget tools that are on par with both Victorinox & Leatherman.
I wonder if the weird serrated blade is there as a strap/clothing cutter. Angle makes sense for it, plus the glass breaker. I like the armbar. The driver with standard bits, and some versions have the hammer on the end. Scissors suck though, which is weird because they aren't bad on the Suspension. I still have my ancient Swiss Champ. Bought a 1 hand trekker, have a mini champ on my keys.
great work mate , Alox Farmer X , is hands down the dogs Bollox , there is no comparison , , thats just me , the ruike is good too but S A K is the biz , thankx Max , p
The Champ is The Champ of them all for me!
I can't seem to find it now, but I believe one of the Roxons comes with a removable craft blade instead of a full blade. That's huge, because it's under the 2.5" length limit in some cities, easily replaced, and means you can just toss the blade and take the rest I to many places you cannot take a knife. (Airport, courthouse, many office buildings, etc.) That's a feature no Victorinox has. It pains me that 91mm Vics are not street legal in Chicago and some other cities. Now if Vic took something like the Compact and replaced the blade with a good craft blade? Now we're talking! Especially if you throw in a third layer for an inline Philips, magnifier or, one of the other less common tools. Lots of cirections you could go there, but you'd still have a rock solid base to build from.
The Medford ASK looks interesting the liners are magnacut the blade is magnacut and it's modular you can build it however you desire.
This is a premium priced tool obviously
nope, sorry. Will never buy a Medford.
Cool channel. Well, I do think that Leatherman is truly a tougher tool and can take serious abuse at a level where you have greater forces on the tool. That said, how can we not have a soft spot for Victorinox? My everyday carry is the Leatherman Juice S2. Perfect set of tools for me, but am open to others that fit the bill.
instead of the Victorinox Super Tinker, try the DeLuxe Tinker, which has a plier instead of a saw. Also in my pocket most every day, is the humble Stanley 10-049 folding utility knife - slim, lightweight, rustproof, the very sharp blade locks and is replaceable.
Nothing is going to beat my Victorinox knives. Ever. Unless Victorinox does it themselves.
yep, for me the only thing that gets close is those Italian ones but they are 4 times the price.
The ks2 elite kicked vicorinox out of my pocket. Victorinox needs to step it up.
I eventually always come back to this conclusion. I also really enjoy the Leatherman Garage Euro 74 or whatever it was called.
@@afoolishman12same here. The d2 steel on the blade, and all locking did it for me. I used the scissors the other day to cut antenna wires, and it just went through. If victorinox used a premium steel for the blades, I think I would go back though. Doesn’t need to be magnacut, s30v or something would be nice
I couldn’t agree more!
I like locking tools, and especially the ease of their deployment, which is not available in non-locking tools like Victorinox, So you need really strong thumbnails to deploy them against the strong springs, which gives the impression my nail is going to break, trying to get them out. So I might well look at the alternatives you describe. I do have one of the tiniest Victorinox tools on my keychain and get good use from it, no real complaints there other than that my tweezers and toothpick are long gone.
Victorinox has been making pocket knives for over 130 years
I'd go ks2e > the half wave clones > Leatherman t4 > victorinox. Prefer locking. I use half of a super tool 300. Saw, serrated, 3d Philips, screwdriver, bottle opener(need to swap this).