2024 Force Gurkha 5 Door review - Hardcore off-roader is bigger and better |
With more doors, more seats and more power, is the new Force Gurkha more rounded as well? Gavin D'Souza finds out.
Cameraperson: Abhijeet Kamane
Editor: Deven Bhalla
0:00 - Introduction
0:41 - Dimensions
1:21 - Styling
2:05 - Interiors
7:13 - Off road test
9:58 - Performance
13:31 - Ride and handling
16:28 - Verdict
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WHY IS THERE NO MUSIC IN THE VIDEO
Continuous wheel bearing failure. Even skoda doesn't have wheel bearing failure. Mileage of 8-9kmpl. Price of near 22 lakhs. If I have this much money. I'd buy Innova/Isuzu vcross or an Mg Zs ev ( mg zs ev I can run for free as I have rooftop solar ! ). Middle seat is useless and non adjustable. Normal 5'8" adult will have difficulty sitting. Changing seats with other cars etc will cost 50,000 or more depending upon how ,any seats changed etc. Articulation is poor, even thar and jimny have better articulation!!! Which are not hardcore offroaders. You only need to spend small amount to get difflockers aftermarket. Parts rust. Media system is pathetically useless reminds of 15 yrs old aftermarket 5000 system. Plastics and other things are fine. No petrol option. Diesel will be banned in 2-3 years. Already life reduced to 10 yrs in all metros. No automatic option at 22 lakhs is idiotic. Don't give expensive/failure prone excuse. Torque converter based zf transmission are the best and most overbuilt in the world. Except for good Ac nothing good about car. Fails in all aspects.
Makes a lot of sense for us people in the hills with horrid roads who don’t want to deal with Mahindra reliability issues
I am in Himachal Pradesh, thinking 2nd hand land cruiser, but now maybe better this Gurkha, if 6 airbags will come
@@JustasG it's a tank bro , those extra 4 airbags hardly make a difference:)
why mahindra has great reliability only initial units have some problems
@@ayushbhardwaj7650 yes, one most important safety thing is the heavy weight, that's why I like Gurkha. But need to do a test drive with family, to see will they fit in second row behind me, I am a bit tall, but I like sitting upright, so maybe they will have knee room
This car will have the same reliability issue tho
I can smell karol bagh wale bhaiya ready with g wagon grill for it 😂😂😂
Same thoughts when I saw the black version. They have hit it out of the park this time.
😂😂👍
'Smell' him bro what 🤢
See they are going to simply transform this vehicle into something very different we in Pune are also expecting this vehicle to become and Lifestyle vehicle in aftermarket fitments
@@pranay6716 lol 😂 not him . I meant smell of the thoughts of selling after Market fitments
Gurkha already got Merc Engine.. They should hire International designers and work on Interiors as well... Trust this brand got capability to create history.
All their cars are licensed old car models from different brands tho. This one is from Defender's old model,💁
@@Michael-Anghno it uses old merc engine and old g design
Merc engine thats decades old
@@cineenthusiast1234 👍
Diesel Merc engines are the best ones I have worked in my 14 years experience. They never fail even under extreme temperatures.
In real life it looks massive on the road. Its huge
Too tall of a vehicle even for average speeds
@@BudgetCarnivore Thus for offroad.
Common Man's G-wagon is here
Men always love to handle heavy vehicles.
@@maryyaan exactly
Finally a 140 bhp engine and ground clearance..
Only 140bhp they need to increase power period
@@spblore agreed with you.. But what I appreciate is at least they are moving forward..
Before it was only 91 bhp now 50 up on that is huge that only 132 bhp @@spblore
Three door Gurkha is smaller now so I think the weight is also less and power will feel good than previous one. Not much as thar but since they improve
Continuous wheel bearing failure. Even skoda doesn't have wheel bearing failure. Mileage of 8-9kmpl. Price of near 22 lakhs. If I have this much money. I'd buy Innova/Isuzu vcross or an Mg Zs ev ( mg zs ev I can run for free as I have rooftop solar ! ). Middle seat is useless and non adjustable. Normal 5'8" adult will have difficulty sitting. Changing seats with other cars etc will cost 50,000 or more depending upon how ,any seats changed etc. Articulation is poor, even thar and jimny have better articulation!!! Which are not hardcore offroaders. You only need to spend small amount to get difflockers aftermarket. Parts rust. Media system is pathetically useless reminds of 15 yrs old aftermarket 5000 system. Plastics and other things are fine. No petrol option. Diesel will be banned in 2-3 years. Already life is reduced to 10 yrs in all metros. No automatic option at 22 lakhs is idiotic. Don't give expensive/failure prone excuse. Torque converter based zf transmission are the best and most overbuilt in the world. Except for good Ac nothing good about car. Fails in all aspects. Lifestyle lifestyle bolke bailgadi kharidva denge force aur unke dalle autocar
It's funny how this car was considered substandard transport for villagers just a decade or so ago but now it's an expensive lifestyle vehicle because people have internet and know about G wagon.
true
that villager, that's me
I think you are referring to the Trax. The prev gen Gurkha 2008 model one was not that popular in villages. It was crude but still but fancy. Maybe the village leader had one lol
tu bhi jio ki galti hai
In villages force cruiser is used not gurkha. Gurkha is a 4×4 vehicle. And villages dont have 4×4 😂😂
I'm still using force one 2014 bs4 Marc 2.2 disel engine crossed 244756 km .. very reliable brand and engineering ...time for change new Gurkha 2024
Did you made adventure trips? Any experience of capabilities
Much needed upgrades are done which were killing the sales and the capability of Last gen Gurkha 🔥🔥🔥🔥
This is purpose built workhorse. Get a creta if you want sophisticated features.
For real, This made for men, kids even cry in G wagon 😂
Oh ok we have jimny and thar
@@cineenthusiast1234 Jimny is a kei car, Thar is a mall crawler with features and auto gearboxes. This is a crude offroader for people who like classic.
People fail to understand that this is also an overlanding vehicle!
The lack of features and the barbaric dashboard can be forgiven if priced well. But the poor ergonomics and the pathetic space management cannot be forgiven.
Love it,IT will be tough competition for Upcoming 5door Thar and Jimny,Still outdated interior and no steering controls,
Competition to jimny but 5 door thar will be a different category because of its road presence
@@PS-ug7nm Thar is a Wrangler copycat and is wide, Gurkha is a Gwagon copy and is super tall.
@@shahan484 Copycat is a poor word of choice. You cant ignore the fact that Mahindra had the license from willys for cj4 , so the mahindra evolved with the jeep platform. Also daimler and force are very close even the gurkha uses the famous MB om616 derived engine(they used om616 back in the day). Plus pre facelift gurkha looked similar to g-wagen from front and LR defender from back.
Gurkha is literally the og G Washin which was made for wartime@@shahan484
@@darkseid1358The only true thing is you said is about the Force (Bajaj Tempo) Mercedes (daimler) relation. The earlier gurkhas also used First gen Gwagon engineering in the car. However, if I'm not wrong, Mahindra was given lisence to produce CJ jeeps in India 70 years ago, and not to copy a new 2010s wrangler, bit by bit. There's a reason why they can't sell the Thar outside of India and Mahindra terribly lost the lawsuit for Roxor in Aus, because a copycat is a copycat. They are only safe in India. No lisence cr*p can explain why the Thar has [] LED tailamps like the Wrangler, Fenders and Bumpers shaped like the 2010s wrangler and front LED drls shaped just like the wrangler and none of these resemble the original jeep models.
Now the modifier companies has pressure on them. If they somehow try to bring kits , interiors, blue matte colour, yellow , bottle green color etc and sound system, infotainment system from other companies, ambient lighting this would come out Dope AF. Just thought if someone can put Tata's new digital infotainment system aftermarket. They should have provided Cruise Control atleast. Yet good.. can't wait to see our Kerala boys modifying this Beast
Modify kyun karoge?!
@@aviksanyal2527 Ache kapde kyu pehente hai log?
It not a cruiser. To have cruise control
@@joffson_pinto cruise control doesn't mean cruiser
@@joffson_pintobrother you are totally wrong 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️
Better than Thar
तो loge😁क्या सर
But people will buy only Thar.
Not even selling 1000 in a year .even for a offroader you need some moderness
Yes this time Thar has a real competition on ground in terms of capability not sadly not sales though
@@Jawan269zyaada sales hone se gaadi acchhi ho jaati hai kya?! Aise toh Creta bhi bohot bikti hai, iska matlab yeh thodi na hai ki woh doosri gaadiyon se acchhi hai.
I have never seen reviewers complaining about something, just because it is better 🤔
Those were the days when there were only print magazines and that too monthly... Back to the era of 90s, then there used to be real reviews, rather than just praising each and every car and bike they used to review. There used to be proper comparisons too!
This reminds me of the Toofan from the sides 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
That is called trax
For a multistrada, TVS Vicor seems a joke, but it is TVS Victor which is more useful & meaningful 😂😂😂
It uses the same bodyshell as trax cruiser just cut short.
This is toofan infact. Better to say it's a force trax which was sold in 2000s but just put with new engine and 4WD.
Exactly 💯 😂
Everything is good. It's purpose is clear and crisp: Being a hardcore off roader and dominating the road, just it could have been more appealing with better interiors, more features, and we need a more powerful engine, the previous one was just too sluggish and boring 😑 Thankfully, Force corrected it 😍
Yes exactly like but Karol Bagh Chpris will not understand. This is a proper Hardcore offroader not like a Lifestyle part time 4WD Jeep. But we gotta wait for Thar 5 door
you are smart bro!! I am for sure buying one!
Force Motors is now Tata Motors from 2000's
No bro , they are doing it like Mahindra , improving slowly step by step and started with little jugaad !
Finally ground clearance
I think Force should actually be marketing the fact that this is the same bulletproof engine, albeit updated to BS6, that Mercedes used to use in 80s G Wagons and in Unimogs. It literally is a G Wagon underneath 😂 Even if the body falls off after 10 years the engine will keep running.
But 80s was like 44 years back ? It will be a shame if someone is still using that era parts
@@Anuj_TomarSeems like u've got no knowledge.90's Mercedes engine was what is called solid superior engineering.Todays Merc engines are all craps and bullshits.
@@Anuj_Tomar brother that was a mercedes like old bmw cars are still faster than majority of the new cars lying in this range
Dashboard looks like a college project.
😂😂😂😂 Nice one bro
The whole vehicle is look like project vehicle...every part like after market look
Hahaha atleast appreciate, they are keeping up, its not for the mass..
Plus a Chinese screen which you can easily get in Karol bagh
@@ALLINONE-ld2took then dont buy let them make good car
Is 3 door also boosted to 140 hp? Are the front wheel swings upward than before, had it gained more offroad clearance. Only 3 door?
Finally the front lower arm doesnt seem to get in the way. A little more detail around the suspension design would have helped. Informative. Thanks.
Don't even have money to eat samosa but still watching 😂😂😂
😂😂😂Same here
Dekhne mein Kya jata hai entertainment ke liye😅
That's why I love car related youtube channel. Itna deklo khi bore hojaye us Gari tha khi Lena na pare gari.
This was recorded in Goa?
Will there be an automatic transmission option available for the Force Gurkha in the future?
They should also make a luxury variant along with this standard variant
Why is the instrument panel showing D in a manual car? Did they source the display from Ali express?
Most probably 😂
is it possible to convert the bench seat to captain seats, same like third row??
Does all the updates comes to 3 door gurkha? Specially the engine?
Yes
Finally i am here on time. All the Given offroad gears and tweak in engine plus the easy wide ingress on all doors is what a real offroad should be. Unpowered yes but stability and rugged work horse is the deal.
how tf is this underpowered? My scorpio has 120bhp, its top model had 140bhp, Thar still has 130bhp, The Gurkha almost doubled its power.
Power to weight ratio matters bro..😅@@shahan484
What would be the Ex-showroom and on road price range in Bengaluru?
The gearbox is from the Gurkha Extreme as I understand to handle the higher power and torque figures.
Its really nice that they have bumped up the power! Hope that they improve further in othrr departments too and make this vehicle likeable to masses!
How is the leg space and head space Mr.Shumacher?
Any update about the front swing arms??
ground clearance issue has been resolved a official company statement confirmed and evo india also said so in their review
@@JagdishKumar-sj8cc Thank you so much!
Hi can you please make a detailed video on the three door 2024 Gurkha as well? Please🙏🏻
Does the 3 door also get the updated engine option ? 👀
yes
What about the pickup version?
this is good now...hope to see more customers buy it...
Fuel Economy? Just wanted to know if it is under 10 or above ...
Under 10
I Always wanted that and waited lot and bought jimny over thar and gurkha due to daily off-roading conditions,sand and snow is the biggest challenges for this bulky machines,still am in live with this two machine gurkha and thar
Paint quality? The biggest question mark on Force remains as it is. The rust on 6 month old gurkha was same like my 7yr old Wagonr. And hence i opted for Thar instead of Gurkha.
Ask the force to hire a senior designer for both interior and exterior if they consider the market so seriously. It looks generations old.
This is purpose built workhorse. Get a creta if you want sophisticated features.
@@kabilanmahi2380 look that's the problem. You keep creta with u I own a compass. This product won't pls masses and eventually it will come as a failure.
@@ankitrawat4736 compass itself is a failed in india,
@@mostlyonwheels5288 u r interested in compass?? As a product? It hasn't failed. It's a global product. It has low sales due to the company's stubborn behaviour. As a product it has no competition nearer to it.
@@ankitrawat4736but that force is reallt more reliable than your refined turbo charged engine, eventually I was intrested in scorpio n but now will stick to it cause I am owning a bolero since 2014 and it suits me more rather than sofesticated cars, I want simpler and maybe the interior may look old but the engine is what I need to be fair engough others can be done in karol bagh if you desire and already smelling yt videos of converting this to a literal g wagon with stage 3 tuning maybe
How is the performance of this car on highway. Do we get to hear the tyre noise while driving
Ok, not great, for highway but for bad roads it will reach destination earlier than even high end models because of wonderful suspension. I have travelled in these vehicles for 20+ years.
Thank you for your reply 👍👍
Terroble tractor engjne, yoh ding yead tyrd noise because you will hear loud tractor noise from engine
Is fitting a carrier legal ?
Is there any option to remove that snorkel?
Are they planning to come up with Automatic gearbox ?
I don't know why people get confused Force Trax/Cruiser are commonly used in rural areas which has7-9 seating. And Gurkha is made for offroad use it looks similar but platform is modified and now with modern features finally
That force cruiser have 14 seating..😅
@@nicco1295does Trax or Cruiser have diff locks and low range gear?
Is it body on roll chasis???
Is roof track legal for private vehicle?
For trips it is ok to use, but not for daily, few days ago I went to police station in Palampur to ask about this thing, as my wife with family wanted to go to Manali with our small Santro Xing, they said just for trip use and don't argue with police officers if they stop you. As I am foreigner, police officers always give good advices how not to get into troubles in India 😊so I went to Manali and all was ok. After trip I removed the carrier and waiting for the next trip, maybe with new Gurkha 🤩 but some people I see using these carriers daily, maybe you can use it daily if it is original, not universal
Has Force improve their after sale service too??
Can we use it as regular usage
6:27 Did someone notice that the instrument console looks like a modified one from Renault kiger 😂
EXACTLY!
Absolutely road side after market types interiors
Colour options?
A great review, although the track was a let down. What type of axle does it have in the front ? Rigid ? I mean, it must be, for a diff lock to operate. The gear throws remind me of the Traveller...is it that gearbox, modified to suit the 4x4 system ? The dashboard looks lik ean after thought, like they forgot about it and did something last minute to catch the launch deadline !! IS the cluster display fixed ? Having a 24x7 TPMS is distracting... I'd prefer the needles for speedo and tacho, like the Jimny, with an MID for the fancy stuff. The second row aircon is the similar one that the Safari and Sumo had earlier.. although it gets the work done, it dosen't look good from any angle. A huge vehicle and requires similar broad places to pass through, I guess. The Jimny scores better here. The Gurkha, Rubicon and the Jimny all share similar storage spaces...:) The rear seats are comfy for travel, but luggage has to travel on the roof, I guess. No two ways about that ! A tough car indeed, but, in Delhi-NCR, one has to junk it after 10 years...that's the sad part. The Jimny and the Petrol THAR can survive another 5 years..although with it's dismal FE, the petrol Thar would be disposed way earlier than it's 15 year deadline !!
What is the towing capacity of this car?
Bro are you really short or is the Gurkha so huge ??
Going through the review, this reminds me of SUVs from the 1990s. It's actually crazy how they were ok with selling a product that's so terribly constructed from the inside.
Wow they fixed all of the issues with Gurkha. Good job Force motors.
You know what should they do? Create a gurkha without any interiors, like no seat, no those cheap looking plastic on doors, or cheap plastic inside. Let after market guys take over, im pretty sure they gonna modify it like a beast, make vidros go trending, make more sales for force
The centre row ought to have been offered with a foldable bench seat option and should have offered a sliding and reclining capability and should have been removable as well. There should have been an option for 3 rows of Captain Seats too. The Rearmost Captain seats also ought to have been foldable. It is good that they can be removed as needed. Small practical touches like this right out of the factory would have been great!
Middle row seats can replace with force citiline middle row seat
Pls share RPM vs Speed in 5th gear. Captain seats could have been placed in the middle with the bench seat moved to the rear with 60:40 split option. Entry and Exit would have been much better.
Where is the 3 door Gurkha review? I think it also received new upgrades? Waiting for it. Tbh 3 door looks way more handsome than 5 door (which looks like the commercial toofan)
ground clearance increased ????
Yep, now at 233mm
Desi G WAGON😂
Yessss 🔥🔥🔥🔥
It's 1st gen g wagon
We also have desi Wrangler to launch in 5 doors 😂
Kudos to the desi team . We are growing stronger . Soon such cars will go international..rooting for our home boys.
Adblue? DeF?
This needs to be exported, I'm sure there's a good chunk of people worldwide who would like to own a reliable boxy SUV and need 3 locking diffs with a good ol' reliable Merc engine, just like the older classic G-Wagen.
Force need three things, some improvement to attract cusomers seriously. Dashboard, Engine and should make it a little bit wide. Rest all good
The main thing they need is a good service network pan India
Engine Issue Is Resolved. Dashboard Is Ok But That Steering Wheel Need To Go.
They have definitely worked on front suspension as compared to previous one 👍👍
Upgrades which are still missing 1) All around Disk 2) Proper updated Suspension setup at the rear ( still using leaf spring, common it's not a pick up truck any more...) 3) Good amount of space in middle row, With Captain Seats at least as an option. 4) Add more goodies to make it a more updated and comfortable. 5) EBS,EBD & all other options. 6) beg, borrow or Steal but hire good team of interior designer's. and don't worry if price go up above 30lac (janata hoon 140 hp ke liye ye bohot hai ) still people will Purchase it
It's looking good ❤❤❤
Can we use Gurkha headlights on THAR??
😂
Wow, Force finally upgraded their 90hp traveler engine 😮. Hopefully it will give good competition to Thar and Jimny.
I have been waiting for this for the last one year.
changes i want are ventilated front seats, ottoman second row seats like innova hycross
Upgraded version on Tempo trax.. from back those days..!! It used to be the road king before the Tata Sumo got launched.
Just throw some 35 inch tires swap out the rear seats put a tent on top you have a perfect overlanding adventure vehicle😎😎😎
Yssw
As usual… Autocar India Reviews are more sensible and upto the point… Good Job🌷
The power and torque outputs are very amazing compared to the last updated model
Love it! What’s missing is a more practical steering wheel with controls and slightly better interior 😅 Otherwise great job !
Woooooohoooooooo!!!!!!!!!!! Time ro start cutting my unnecessary expenses. I need one of these in this very red shade.
I might will take if they will put 6 airbags 😊 black one I would take 😊 for Himachal will be best I think, or 2nd hand land cruiser 🤔
@@JustasG how much is a 2nd hand landcruiser going these days?
@@beast236 100 series for 10-20 lakhs, but it is 20 years old almost. Himachal roads are narrow, maybe Gurkha will be better than land cruiser
Wow wow wow. I loved the ride quality with those 16 inch wheels, hope that setup isn’t disturbed. To the Force Gurkha Team -> ❤❤❤
Kinda disappointing tbh. The 2nd row should've been more spacious and the interior should've been of better quality.
Ohh .. bro I was dreaming about the 5door with better engine specifications now the dream come true..
Another vehicle for overlanding hope its not bigger than a G wagon :). 140 bhp is much needed engine for SUV of this size. Lot of improvements wish they give steering mounted controls Are they giving Merc engine now ?
For force break is always issue.. with hill control break will not strained during decent.. otherwise if you use break you aren't going to stop during decent..
Красивые машины,мне особенно нравится трёхдверная версия,она выглядит очень симпатично.Я хочу чтобы эти машины продавались и у нас, привет из Казахстана 🖐️
140hp and 320 NM, now this will be a rival to the armada, which may come with the new scorpio n engine
What is armada bro ?
@@ayushbhardwaj7650New name for Thar 5 Door, but still originated from previous gen
@@ayushbhardwaj7650 You dont know Armada ? When were you born dude ?
With 200hp refined engine not a tractor like gurkha
@@HarvinderSingh_steelpony11 oh ohk paaji
In whole video i thought what parts to add/remove to make it look like a g wagon
Gurkha is like a wise grandfather ; If you stay around you will end up with some of the best stories of your life.
Atleast Force Motors Actually Listens to Customer Feedback and they have geniune pricing. Not fooling and cheating customers like Maruti did with Jimny. Kudos Team Force
Go Adventure ❌ Escape Zombie Apocalypse ✅
🎉
We have 3 Force trucks and these trucks are so nice. I think these cars are also so nice. I'm waiting to buy this
The engine improvement is definitely worth praising. Good job force, next thing left is fit & finish, choice of material and comfort before this car etches its name for forever as a fan favourite.
Proud to see made in India products getting world recognised.
Substandard for city .... BOX comes to mind EVERYTIME you look at it .... FORCE NEEDS NEW GUYS IN DESIGN TEAM for sure ..... GREAT ENGINE in a CHEAP PACKAGE
Why this curve shape on roof.. Why not flat like gymny...
Having seen a 3 door up close and in traffic, the car is massive. Almost bigger than marazzo & it's seating position probably. Almost thought it was a G wagon lol