The TINIEST E-Bike Conversion Kit Just Got CHEAPER | Swytch
The battery is SO small, Swytch claims it can fit inside of ANY pocket. But small doesn't mean it lacks the range OR the power.
Swytch has made a huge name for themselves in the world of DIY electric bike conversion kits with their convenient, portable batteries that can turn nearly any old (OR NEW!) bike into an electric speed machine!
I got the opportunity to go visit Swytch HQ, convert my own bike into electric AND test if their kits are as revolutionary they claim to be.
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0:00 Eilis gets schooled
0:16 Coming up
0:42 Hitting up HQ
1:09 Components
2:13 Step 1
3:00 Step 2
3:41 Step 3
4:17 Step 4
5:24 Final Step
5:46 Electric Pennyfarthing?!
6:24 Let's ride!!
7:57 Optional bonus
8:54 Ultimate pocket test
9:58 Public reactions
11:25 BIG reveal
12:56 Testing the GO
13:52 Final thoughts
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So do you think you could fit the Swytch kit yourself? Pricing for the Air and Max starts from around £599, but for the latest price head on over to their website!
I'm in France. If I order one will there be custom fees?
I fit a Swytch kit to my bike already and it's brilliant :D
😂😂keep it il peddle
£599 is enough to e-bikes in Amazon/ local bike store. Even traditional ebike conversion kits cost £400 with battery ( 250-350W , 12-13ah ) Swytch kit has front hub motor which in thoery will have less torque then rear hub motor, way smaller battery as well. If you really love your normal bike, then swytch is an option
Those ebikes on Amazon are trash comparatively though - I've seen plenty and they're budget in a lot of areas. Also, consider the applied force of both front hub motor along side pedal power, as the assistance from that isn't the same as a rear hub driven ebike :)@@shahan1465
I’ve had a Swytch system for two years - not this model, but same power. It’s a great product, like riding with the wind behind you. It gives me just the right amount of assist. The company, order process and delivery were a total nightmare. It was five months late, they shipped the wrong wheel size, their support is the worst I’ve ever experienced. No phone number, no address, no people, just a helpdesk email. It wasn’t until I threatened them with legal action that 24hrs the kit arrived by courier.
Yeah that what put me off buying the kit that why I didn't
Thanks for the heads-up. Likely some made grifty dorks making money off of some poor kid overseas. None of these companies ever last... why waste your money when there are proven options with actual support out there.
Can you recomend any option in Los Angeles please?@@JoeGator23
It’s a great product, like riding with the wind behind you? For no nightmares and ease, just buy a tin of baked beans.
He said it was the mission was to make e-bikes affordable not provide the best customer service lol I hear 100g is rrally good with customer support but yeah the geeko starts at 500 n goes up, with my discount i got the Swytch for 350… ill wait lol
Gets a bit annoying to receive constant emails from Swytch saying they've upgraded (twice now since I got my original kit which proved problematic over it's first year) and it's 'only' £xxx to get the new version of the battery with a bigger range. Also the long waiting list is because they seem to wait until they have sufficient orders to fill a container coming from China, where the kits are made. It's not UK made at all, unless things have changed since I got my kit.
Couldn't agree more.
yup, takes FOREVER to get your kit, especially if you are in the USA!
@@melistasy Comedy
I thought the kit is made in Netherlands
Spot on. I waited months for the Brompton conversion kit and yes, it ships from China in a container that they sort out (and messed up, in my case) at the docks in Australia. I now have two Brompton kits uninstalled and sitting in a cupboard. We didn't like the the weight gain and clunky performance.
Wish they'd ditch the whole waiting list approach to their sales. Not sure how a system like that is helping them reach their company's goal...
They can focus on production quality I guess
@@lavatr8322no
I really like the kit, however it's the reported long waiting/delivery time that is putting me off.
Imagine them selling over their production capacity then having to disappoint people with waiting times, or for margin of error within production, AFTER taking full payment. By doing it this way, they can manage expectations and it's all fair game. If you want one, just get in the queue and when invited to pay, do it :) I bought mine back in 2020 (I've got the model before the air came out) and it only took a few months. Was absolutely worth the weight!
I cancelled my order as it was 4 mo nths late. I then bought an Eovolt afternoon which I love but admittedly it was 1k more expensive. Still think I made a decent decision though
That cable that needs unplugging to remove the battery had better not be the same as the original cables/plugs. In my experience they do not plug/unplug at all well. Tried it twice when needed to change my kit and each time I had to use pliers and one of those times it destroyed the plug before it would unplug.
i had a similar problem with the plug from the display after plugging it in again the display stopped working because two of the wires had snapped DOH.
My favorite part of the Swytch team is how they insist that, "you're going to do this yourself." I'm averse to doing mechanical work but, if I had a bike, learning how to convert it to electric teaches me about how the things work and familiarizes me with the process. The fact they have everything to help you and will guide you is amazing. Kudos to Swytch!!!
Tip: Learn how to change an inner tube, and keep a spare tube, tools and mini pump with you!! Then you can change your tire in the event of a puncture
5mm + 6mm Alan Keys a spoke key, 15mm ratchet wrench, if needed. Try not to use an adjustable wrench.
Great tips!
one of those pumps that mount to bottle cage holder works pretty well but you know you could also just get puncture resistant tires. i ride probably like 5000km per year and i don't even remember when i last had puncture and i ride over glass shards and pins and it's fine. i am actually kinda supriced how well puncture resistant tires work.
@@nebulous962definitely worth whatever extra it is for those tires.
Or just full your tyres with slime like I did and say goodbye to all that hassle.
I have two folders (Dahon Ios) with the previous Swytch Pro kit, the one with 50+ km range, and they are absolutely awesome machines. If you control carefully the power assist they can do way more than 60 kms, few years ago we managed to do the full round trip around Las Bardenas Reales in Navarra, about 50kms mainly flat with half the battery left at the end. I only use them as a motorhome auxiliary vehicles, not daily used, and are fault-free until today. I wish a little more quality on components (they seem a bit 'chinese' for the high price tag) and a little less crazy shipping costs.
Hi, I have a Dahon folding bike, the Mariner. It does not have disk brakes, but uses brake pads. Do you think this kit would work on a non disk brake bike, or would I have to convert the brakes? Love my Dahon, but hubby now has an e-bike.
I've had my swytch kit for a few months now and I have yet to add it to my bike. I thought the disk break would be hard to do. But that look so simple. Thank you for this video.
Yes it totally sucks that you get enthused in summer and can’t get it until autumn and for this they are actually thinking about a 6. -12 months wait insane !
You can still use it during the autumn/winter months. It will work in wet and cold weather.
They do the 6-12 month wait thing so that (a) they have that money in their pockets way longer and (b) they can order the cheapest kind of manufacturing in fixed numbers.
@@richdt6312 OP is talking about the fact that they open orders in the summer months when people are eager to go out and ride, but kits don't deliver until 6 months later when people are less likely to want to ride.
happened to me. the cold breeze now almost puts me off using for my commute to the train station.
Love what Swytch is doing. Great work, and glad to see the larger battery.
This was great, a full walk through is always appreciated!
😮A choice of the swytch and Geeko...i chose the Geeko rear hub...£500.... ordered it one day, 25 days later, shipping from China, it was on my bike., one cable from motor to battery...very neat....tools were included to do the job.
Fitted mine onto my Brompton. Works a treat! Makes Bristol hills easy!
Great review. Put one on my brompton 3 weeks ago and have loved it - when my legs are knackered after exercise it is amazing!!!!!
Not got a Swytch but I have a Ebike for courier work, well 2 and too many batteries, work 6 hours/£110+ a day, 6 days a week, couldn't do it with a normal bike so much
A few critical things missing from this video, at least for bicycles with hydraulic disk brakes. 1. You have to be really careful when the wheel and disk are not mounted on the bike that you don't press the brake lever. This could happen accidentally when the bike is flipped over. It is best to insert something the same thickness or a bit thicker than the disk into the brake caliper gap when messing with the bike when the wheel is not mounted with the disk so if the brake lever is depressed the caliper will have something to stop the brakes from getting messed up. 2. After disks are mounted on a new hub and wheel, there is likelihood that the disk position will be slightly altered. This will require re-alighting the brake caliper. None of these are "deal breakers" (sorry no pun intended), but they are important steps that can make this process a bit more involved than the simplicity shown in the video. Cheers from the new world! (USA, where we have legally owned and operated on public road electronic scooters!).
Watching Eilis discover tire levers warmed my heart.
Can't beat a good tyre lever 😅🤠🤟
I bent all my mams spoons as a kid on my BMX lol.
"I think it's, ehhh, a battery for a bike." He said, as he was approached by an entire crew on electric bikes behind the camera 😂😂
Have mine a few months. It's amazing on a light racer bike.
Adjustable spanner? What's wrong with using the correct tool for the job 😁
What I saw her using was even worse than an adjustable spanner, she was using gland nut pliers
What's the weather proofing on these if any?
THIS IS EILIS! (and Electroheads and Swytch!) Thanks for doing a deep dive and showing the new product! I recently received an email offer about their new product (even in NA, not Europe), so great timing!
All good and i've really enjoyed my series one version. If i had any improvement on mine it would be to fit a loop or mini key lock so if im popping into, say a beer shop (hipster alert) i can leave it on. I was once offered, in the beer shop, a spare battery by someone passing, who'd obviously nicked it from a bike that had left it on. I did not buy it!
Clip on power packs for a rear rack would make a nice next gen power option. Even longer range, charge one while using another, variable sized and cost. I like the fact you can go with a small pack to start with as some people only need a little... What's the terms - scalability...
How about add a port where you can provide your own non OEM battery. As long as it's the same voltage, it should work.
Thanks for the review! I seriously considered one at one point. But the massive premium you pay for being from the 'Rest of the World' for shipping put me off it. In the end, I decided to set my sights on a purpose built ebike instead. But it was an attractive option I did consider. And way easier than building one from scratch.
Needs to be a quick release like the Air/Max. It’s definitely a step backwards to have to fiddle with straps and a cable plug.
Those features are the exact reason the other two kits are more expensive. This one would be no different from the others if it had those. They removed those features to achieve as low a price as possible.
I don't mind taking a couple of seconds to take off the battery when I need to charge it
@@Lamefoureyes you need to remove it at your destination so that it doesn't get stolen.
@@mgjk Don't you need the same kit on your bike before you steal someone else's battery? Or does this battery plug into any electric system?
I hope its a more reliable battery. I received my kit on 1/2/2022. After about 15 months I started having problems. On 14/7/23 I got the reply "We're sorry to report that your ECO kit has now reached the end of its life." After only 17 months of moderate use the battery was defunct!☹
I wish the go would also support the clip mechanism. It's kind of annoying having just got the swytch kit this year and now if I want the best battery option, I basically have to take on a whole new form factor. Would it really have been SO hard for you guys to just make it clip compatible?!
Now ask the people of the original or ECO kit how they feel about the whole proprietary attachment system... it's a load of rubbish.
Get yourself a proper kit like tsdz2 or a bafang mid drive, in a different league to this and cheaper
Yes is a real about face
@@kevinwilliams8502 which bafang do you recommend?
Oh, man. I love that new model. Would have loved to have freed up my handlebar space to use a front-mounted basket. Thanks for sharing!!
Im very interested in getting the GO battery for my current Swytch-converted bike. I havent had an issue with the customer service, im a north american customer and have had the expected quickness with the e-mails. Ive never called obviously. I had the 50km battery but it doesnt charge or work anymore. It took me about a month to finish putting it together because 1) i didnt have a lot of bike-related tools like the wheel-putter-onner 2) theres not actually a lot of clear instructional videos on the swytch website so i had to find youtuber reviewer videos to learn from and most time-consumingly 3) where the motor wheel slides onto my bike's fork, its a non-standard size, so i did what a few indignant but patient consumers have done which is file down the motor wheel's sticky-out-bits so that the motor wheel could fit on the bike's fork (the alternative being, filing down the bike's fork). Would i do it again/do i recommend? Yes, with conditions. Think of it as a cool kit like the circuit toys that kids get but a lot more practical. Its a fun kit to put together, and you get a cool ride at the end! Dont expect it to be put together and done in a day. Get help! Dont be like me, get learned on bike wheel sizes, and get the right wheel size. CHARGE THE BATTERY AND KEEP IT CHARGED OTHERWISE IT WILL DIE AND NOT WORK. All of my complaints have been user error on my part with a pinch of laziness and assumption that ill figure it out. 😂
How well does it do with hills. I have a LOT of hills
OK-OK:OK! The on the spot survey... perfect.
What is the benefit to existing Swytch users like myself, other than range? / with the Air the benefit was range plus a lighter, more portable battery. With this version I’m effectively paying for a bigger more ranged battery - being able to “velcro the pack to anywhere on the frame” seems less of a benefit compared to the solid fixing g I have with my original Swytch v1. So this seems more of a version geared to attract new users rather than existing ones. Or tell me I’m wrong ?
Hi Nigel! Many thanks for your message, hope you are enjoying your AIR kit! The Swytch GO is based on customer research over the lifetime of the AIR and MAX kits, but we understand that the changes aren't for everyone, and so we will not be discontinueing the AIR or the MAX, an upgrade kit will also be available for existing customers.
So cool! Great news!
My how far we have come from the Copenhagen wheel! Cannot wait to see these in Australia!
how do they deal with the brake cutting power to the wheels?
The Swytch kit is pedal assisted - so as soon as you stop pedalling the power cuts out! You can also add brake sensors for added security.
I absolutely love the whole concept of the switch kit, conversions are definitely the way forward, throwing something out bike or car and buying a new one is totally missing the point of trying to be greener. Converting an existing bike or car to electric is cheaper and greener, i dont know why this isn't what the majority are doing. I suppose its all down to marketing. If im honest ive never been keen on the look of the battery on the hsndlebars but the new one is great, and somehow can do 40 miles is amazing. Wonder if i could connect 2 batteries to double the range to 80 miles. That would be awsome. A bottlle battery or range extender would also be pretty neat.
Get yourself a tongsheng or bafang mid drive kit, better than these in every way
Because both of those options are £600 plus with a battery. This new version is £350. I don't need a Ferrari just a bike that can assist me on hills to make commuting on bike more feasible for me. I can spend more money and get something better but I simply don't need it. I just need summin that works.
Where do you need to go to do 80 miles on a bike in a day? Tour de France stage? I think a car or a bus or a train is what you need for that distance!
Greener? What about the original front wheel from your own bike that you have to take it off and replace it with this conversion kit? Your original wheel will sit there gathering dust or slime (maybe that's the "greener" you meant or you have to sell it to someone else. I don't know which one is "greener"; buying this kit and having a spare wheel lying around or buying a new ready made e-bike and selling your analogue bike. That's another debate, isn't it?
When the velcro looses its stick (like velcro does), can it be renewed, or would I need to purchase an entirely new kit?
It's something called "sewing" that most people learn when they're like twelve or thirteen.
@@onthewater4020 oh its even easier than that! Those velcro inserts come right out, so can be replaced right away!
I've got two Swytch kits and they're simply amazing. I'm looking forward to seeing what the new price point is.
i put one on my dads bike was 26inch rim about 3 years ago, got a big battery on the front might be like first gen , can i get the wheel respoked with the motor on to a more modern size ? like 27.5 or 29er ? etc
I woud have a worry about battery security for both models. Thoughts?
The AIR and MAX kits clip out and can go into your bag for safety, and with the GO kit its just a couple of straps! But we also have a locking mechanism to the downtube as an optional extra.
@@Swytchbike Where is this "Locking Mechanism" for the GO Kit? I cant find it anywhere.
yeah, they're having a hard time producing these units. it doesn't keep them from wanting to sell you one though.
With the kit being so light and low drag you could save the battery for the hills and return journeys into the wind!
How long does it take to charge the battery?
How would this feel on a fixie I wonder? As if you want to slow down you either brake, or back pedal, but the crank and pedals keep moving, therefore would the sensor keep providing power to the wheel ? Anyone try this? I'm thinking it would so you'd have to change to a freewheel hub but I'm definitely curious now 🤔😆 Looks great through! Keep up the good work, as it's tempting me more these days.
Have used on a SS, sensor only works when peddling forwards so back peddling would not activate the motor. Now have a throttle instead, helps to extend the battery as only used when I want/need it.
Ah right, so would have to be a freewheeling hub in order to backpedal to stop power delivery. The throttle option is probably the best like you have. Cheers for the reply! @@shammc36
Cracking video, Eilis, you really know how to engage everyone for the video, and I smiled all the way through. You do look incredible on that bike though..
Does it require the same pedal sensor? Which plugs in where?
i was wondering that too
Why not fit the display on the battery or have Bluetooth control?
Does anyone know if there's a handlebar mounted controller for this battery to change assistance levels?
@@watchthewatchmaker Thanks 👍
I see issues with it not being a quick to release, eg. Going to the shop, clip the battery off and into the shop, i dont want to faff about with straps...
@SwytchBike said "Then pay the cost."
I have a Swytch bike and the kit is brilliant but the customer service is awful. Had support requests in for nearly a year and no communication despite emailing many times. Personally, I would avoid it as they are more focussed on new sales than existing customers.
If they sold the kit with out battery it could sell for $300, and it would sell like hot cakes. Just make the front mount thing a controller. The problem with this kit is that once the battery dies you are doomed
I urge anyone considering a Swytch Kit to avoid buying one, and get a real ebike. Where I am, we have rebates that will pay more than 60% the cost of a new base-level ebike that will take you further, faster, and more reliably than Swytch kits will. First off, my kit took six months to arrive. After months of sitting in a warehouse on the tracker, I complained to them and, lo and behold, it magically got delivered THE NEXT DAY. I suspect they were waiting for cheap local distribution options to pop up to save a few bucks here and there instead of just getting a product to the customers who paid for it. Upon arrival, right out of the box, it was faulty. The wheel still shakes - after a full year of wrestling with their awful warranty department, and the rim is made of such a low-quality alloy that it has developed a sandpaper-like texture that shreds through my brake pads. The ranges they advertise are hilariously inaccurate. The kit I got was supposed to handle up to 60km. Up to. I get that. However, it sometimes dies after 15km. Other days I can go 70km. Taking the kit apart (against their warranty, though I'm no longer covered) reveals cheap, off-the-shelf parts from China. They are effectively a drop-shipper that puts a fancy logo on their product. Heck, the charger they sent doesn't even have the Swytch logo (or name) on it. After taxes and shipping, it was over $800 with their scam "discount." With my rebate in British Columbia, I got a great e-bike that I won't advertise since that seems insincere for a total of $700 - an ebike that has done several 120km days, has a proper charger, I don't have to build myself, and has not only a year of manufacturer warranty but a free year of services and tune ups from the shop where I bought it. I mentioned that I previously had a Swytch to the salesperson I bought it from and his response can be summarized as a raise of the eyebrows while looking at the floor. Save your money and spend more on something better.
I do wish you would mention the name of the e-bike that you got! ....I am looking and am torn between several but what appeals to me in Swytch is the light weight with so many e-bikes weighing around 60 lbs.
My Swytch kit was missing some parts. One of the parts was the battery charger so it was pretty negligent that they forgot to include it. Step One is to charge your battery! The pedal sensors were also missing, which is another crucial part. I thought it was very strange that it arrived in several boxes but parts were still missing. I emailed them when we started putting it together and discovered that we didn't have all the parts and they immediately mailed the parts to me that I specified. I don't think it took more than a week to get them, which I thought was strange since it took around 6 months to get the wheel and the other parts.
@onthewater4020 I am so sorry to hear of your experience with Swytch - but glad to hear you are still ebiking! We have taken the feedback on board that you have described here - we now make our wheels in the UK, and you are incorrect about cheap shipping options, but we did have issues with our Canadian supplier which we have since fixed.
Great idea ❤️
10 mile tiny battery will suit lots of people for local trips. Price of fuel and buses now is crazy. And still getting some exercise which is way better than none according to the studies.
But then again you have to use electricity to charge electricity (the battery) and you have to fuel your legs in order to ride your bike. Which one is more cost effective? I don't know.
Can you use the new battery just as an additional powerpack for your existing swytchkit with the Air or the Max battery?
Excellent question! Who wants 1 year product obsolescence schedules?
From what I heard at the pre-launch, yes you can. However, you have to unplug the power cable from the new battery and plug in the cable to the Air or Max dock. It isn't smart enough to have two batteries connected at the same time.
@@chrisstoddart2308 Chris is right (although we think its pretty smart!). You will be able to use the GO kit as a range extender.
@@Swytchbike Thank you for your answer! Can I use my existing display as well?
Hey Swytch team, love what you’re doing - particularly moving the battery into the frame. Hope you can also offer different colours of wheel rims and spokes to match to different bikes, that’s the thing that stands out to me the most!
Is it still a 250 watt hub?
Do they make a rear wheel drive version? All of your balance depends on your front wheel not losing traction. If your front wheel slips you go down fast.
I would agree with that, how do you know your forks are compatible with the wheel
whats the postage this time for it.
I have a swytch kit with a max battery, I’m 143 lbs and the kit gave me the kind of speed an pedal assist I was looking for, but I would agree with other comments about how fast the battery drains, so much so that I decided to purchase a second max range battery to me the distance it takes me to commute and run errands. Keep in mind that I live suburban United States where everything is so far away compared to the UK or Europe.
I have been considering an electric bike as campus would go from 50 minutes to 25 minutes coz I usually just walk the uphill. Issue is, I don't have a clue how stuff works and the bike I use was just a cheap random one for £20 from ebay. Is this compatible? Sorry if the question seems silly, I have never even considered an electrical before two days ago when I first picked up the bike and tried it out.
did you convert to electric?
Looks great,my husband just put my on my Brompton and display level is Not working at all ,I can’t check the wheel because no any light on display 😢I have emailed to them ,we see how long I’m gonna wait for fixing problem.
I would like to know is there a weight limit and how fast will the charge deplete when someone two or three times her size is using any of the E bike kits?
No weight limit, you'll just get decreasing range depending on how hard you make it work. With those size batteries, it won't get you very far unless you're fit.
@ahaveland I was looking into the three wheel bikes. Since my youngest child has physical disabilities and is not able to get around anymore, if it could work for this type of bike, it could be worth the cost. However, every person I have seen in the videos has been physically fit. But what if you can't walk for but you still want to get outside? Electric wheelchairs are two to three times more than the E bike kits, but they are designed to carry extra weight. The three wheel bike could carry the weight, but you need the strength to peddle. Do you see the dilemma of this situation? I'm in my 50s, but due to a back injury, I would not try a two wheel bike, but a three wheel would have the stability that I or my child would need and still be able to enjoy the outdoors. I wonder if there are others who would enjoy the access that this product could provide but on a three wheel bike?
@@feliciabarrett9316 I'm 60 and fortunately still relatively fit. My ebike is powerful, but not legal in the UK. However, I also got a scooter with a seat which is much more comfortable and useful for shopping as I can also use it like a shopping cart and push it around Tescos here in Hungary. Round trip to the store is about 20km, and quite comfortable. There are plenty of illegal ebikes in the UK, but as long as you are discreet, show consideration for others and don't draw attention to yourself, then you should be ok indefinitely. Just get a trike and add a motor to it - there are many options available. Follow Andy Kirby for some inspiration and leads down the rabbit hole...
The bike doesn’t come with the kit. I don’t see why you can’t buy a trike and have it converted.
@feliciabarrett9316 You're going to need a lot more power than this kit would provide. In the US, Lectric makes an e-trike, I'm sure there are companies in UK and Europe that do the same
Nice. Ive looked at swytch a few times. Waiting lists and no 27.5 inch wheels? I have entered the waiting list for the new kit. I do hope to hit the purchase button but its not a smooth transaction. Really great kit and if you want to keep your bike worth getting a quality conversion kit. Just make it easier Swytch please.
Please don't buy this thing unless you have money to throw away.
@@TobyFloof explain if you're going to troll. I'm curious why you think so.
They do offer a 27.5" wheel, its on the list as I just looked. My first kit tool a while to come but they are improving, mine was certainly worth the wait.
From experience bought 2nd gen kit - controller went , then battery would not charge … would be another circa €360 to replace .. with likely same components subject to same quality/ failure window. Left with a wheel that I cannot plug into anything due to kit being their bespoke connectors/ config. They need longer back-to back guarantees and/or replacements at cost. Unless the battery is at great price , better to go with trusted/scaled supplier with better warranty of non- kit eg Decathlon… My opinion … Swytch bike company around a long time now. … either start being/building for long term as reputable supplier with longevity or quit
@@ALookBackInTime I agree with him, massively overpriced, nowhere near as good as alternatives like tongsheng tsdz2 kit which is better in every way and significantly cheaper
in contrast to the description, small actually does mean its lacking in power and range... 90watt hours sounds great until you remember thats only 2.6amp hours which is around half, maybe less than an average ebike battery for 250watt bikes. cant see the motors wattage anywhere on their website but im guessing its very low to get to their range estimates... they're pretty expensive battery packs to boot, especially when looking at price per watt hour.
I found the old Swytch battery and connection, consistently failed on my rounds of commuting, so with the extra kilos going up gradients was tiring. In the end I took the kit off and returned to analogue.
First video I ever seen on Switch and it has this new, longer range version.
I was waiting for this video so bad XD
Is this working with thumb trotle ?
I think the Swytch makes loads of sense and an entry to ebikes and the reality is that you can likely charge it at work, range anxiety us a hoax from car drivers.EBike Life ⚡⚡
Range anxiety on e bikes is no hoax, particularly on these tiny batteries, that 40 mile range claim is nonsense, might achieve that if ridden by a dwarf with a 40 mph tailwind
Great video. No power or top speed info, only range ? great looking product, But....its really motivated me to look elsewhere for something that I can buy now with more info. Mr sales director / promotor (and im guessing there is not one) - Can you see what's just happed here ? - You made me want to buy a solution that ends with vague availability (1st trigger of frustration) and made me eager for more specs (second trigger)and now im looking for other solutions on offer. Just an organic reaction, I don't normally waste my time on YT comments, but I have a thing for green.
When buying any ebike or kit , the price and distance is most important of all. Im not sure if Swyth thought of this . If you want ebike then go go for last years model or shop display from evens cycles or other online stores , where you can pick up something with decent motor and range for under £1500. Keep it in good condition for 3 years and you might get half your money back when selling. Keep a kit for 3 years and no one will be interested in buying it
or find a local bike shop that specialise in ebikes that may be able to do a decent conversion on your favourite old bike
I just want another battery for my Swytch. It works great but the range is limited.
What about wheels with different attachment types like quick release or narrower wheel frames, fat wheel frames?
i really like the idea of this cheap conversion kit. I'd be interested to know if it could be added to an existing E-bike which traditionally has a reat motor. So adding this would result in a motor on both wheels, although I don't know if two pedal sensors could be used.
hmmm. It took 10 months for me to finally receive my Swytch kit...I wonder how long this one would take??
10 years
can you set it up without the peddling and just have acceleration like a motorbike?
Great news! 🎉
is there both a throttle and pedal assist?
I have a Firmstrong Urban single speed beach cruiser with rear coaster brake only. I read that the Swytch kit wouldn't be compatible with it :o( Thanks for the video.
The older model is an example of how not to design a battery, aesthetic-wise, and the new one is a perfect example of how to design batteries. As a pro designer, I'm very pleased with the looks of the new model.
The older model mimics a power bank that's trendy. Even trendier would be to offer a USB port to charge your phone with that battery. How's that for an idea as a non-pro, not even amateur designer?
Any idea when they are going on sale?
I guess I can pop one of these on the front of my rear-motor bike, _more power,_ yay!
Does the battery have a proprietary charger? It would be more appealing if it worked with the USB C chargers, and if the battery had a two two way USB C port to act as a power bank
It clearly helps them as orders are pre-paid - and with that prepayment they place orders and we wait whilst our order/s are being made. No risk to Swytch. And 2-3 months wait for us.
No kidding. And the also clearly wait until the cheapest shipping options pop up - my kit sat in a warehouse in Seattle for MONTHS. I emailed them to complain and the NEXT DAY it was delivered. I get that a company has to turn a profit, but not by ripping off customers by milking every penny out of every order at the cost of quality.
@@onthewater4020 I emailed to complain and it still took forever.
Now I have a question. Now if one orders two batteries. As the first one runs low then when the second battery runs low. Can one plug them together of whatever is left in them to get a few more miles out of both. Bridge them together in parallel? If not why not? You offer this feature. I do like the strap on bag over the handlebar mount for derability of less of an chance of breaking for years of riding. It's easier to replace the velcro closure vs bar mount. Ride Easy
Where do you need to go on your bike to do more than 40 miles? That's the first question I'd ask myself before exhibiting range anxiety. Even 20 miles on a bike is a decent day out.
To the dirt bike trails and back pulling a trailer for overnight camp out. Battery assisted for the boring ride. Off it goes for rider and bike time. Plus to run the lights for night rides and around camping spot lighting boombox. Also if one gets hurt at night having light is needed to get to the main road wait for EMS. Just for the basic needs to enjoy all the good times gone and the ones still ahead. The more real life experiences time learned has taught me to look ahead to where I want to go and not at where I don't want to go. This is a basic how to ride a bike, rule. That can be applied in so many other interests each of us have. Or as Bruce Lee quote ( protect yourself at all times) Ride when your body is out of energy, is a sure way to ride into a tree that doesn't bend or fold. That hurts. It's all about safety. Ride Easy
Instead of claiming the battery fits in the pocket, I suggest some type of a ‘battery holster’ with a belt as an optional accessory.
Any idea on price?
hi i’ve also got the Swytch Air installed on a brompton bike and was puzzled why it gives up after only 12km on a flat terrain on light mode (level 1-2) … thinking my battery was faulty. has anyone actually reached 15 km with Air?
Can I install this on my ebike n leave the heavy battery at home ?
Swytch need to come up with some recycling process. Keep churning batteries out that die after 18 months.
Mine died at 13 months, right after warranty expired... just stopped turning on.
@@marakima i bought an battery fpr 170 on ebay and wiree that into the original controller. Looks pretty homemade but get 50 mile range with original motor and and sensor.
@@marakima not good
@@stillben Thanks, will consider trying something like that.
Using earphone+mic as natural language interface to bike computer seems great, e.g. switch gears, speed inquiry or alerts, map navigation, battery alerts, miscellaneous stats, text messaging to voice bridge, telephone calls, etc.
My old hips would like a throttle! Awesome product
then buy a bike pre 2012 and get it a new battery..... because they can still have them, but anything made or converted after is to be pedal assist
Do we know a price for the new kit ?
Heard the minimum price is around $1’200
Probably another one of their fake "discounts" where you pay over a grand for a kit that ultimately would cost about $350 if you just built it yourself.
Did I miss it or was the price never mentioned, if not I would presume it’s expensive.
Pricing for the Air and Max starts from around £599, but can fluctuate, so for the latest price head on over to their website!
@@Electroheads much appreciated thank you.
The max battery by itself before shipping is $308 for one battery and the air is not available as a purchase outside of conversion kit or as a refresh to a previously converted GEN three that’s the only other way to get an air battery
I’ve been on their waiting list for years and never heard from them. Several contact attempts and never hear back so I gave up.
Which model is this Whyte bike?
I can't afford the Air and Max starts it's too expensive for me to afford. But would love to convert by bike to help me cycle up the hills when coming from work. Maybe 1 day when it's cheaper I can afford it.
Are there any other companys where the production doesnt take long?
are these kits suitable for a adult size trike